DUST Search - hit detection might not be perfect but its not as bad as some make out.

Mavado V Noriega wrote:

Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote:

Dzark Kill wrote:

Alls i know is when i play well and my aim (Read: my ability to get the crosshair over the enemy) I get lots of kills and assists.

When my aim (Read: my ability to get the crosshair over the enemy) is bad i get killed alot. So the enemy is hitting me. People are on the leader board with lots of kills in a weekend.

To me there is nothing wrong with hit detection.

I play with auto aim off, maybe those who notice bad hit detection are playing with autoaim on and its working as intended as to be not too OP'd. IDK all looks good to me so far.

i am not the only one its good to see.
but as you can see some people will not even entertain the possibly there router might need a little work.
or that they really suck at this game.

HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
dude the hit detection is ass
if this is to be a "AAA" game like CCP said it will be they need to fix it

yea sure ppls routers need work, makes ALOT of sense seeing as ppl play other games just ******* fine
yup seems legit ppl complain about a huge gamebreaking issue in the game......they must be bad at the game, awesome logic
im sure most ppl that bring up the hit detection issue fall under 2 categories

1. being good at the game
2. actually spend time playing FPS

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Nexus Dragoon 514 BetaMax. 78	Posted - 2012.08.20 10:33:00 - [1] - Quote i have had a lot of fun with this new build. all i am hear is bad hit detection well i am not that great at the ps3 controller shooters but i am doing alright i hit my targets i am not that great but hell its really not that bad. anyone tried looking at there router settings? if i can kill you when drunk and i do, while not being able to shoot for **** with a controller. then there is something wrong and it may not be the game as much as you think. its looking like bad hit detection is there battle cry of a sore loser. too many people blame hit detection for there own short falls. anybody want to jump in and blame there luck on hit detection.
JonnyAugust Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 212	Posted - 2012.08.20 10:43:00 - [2] - Quote Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote: i have had a lot of fun with this new build. all i am hear is bad hit detection well i am not that great at the ps3 controller shooters but i am doing alright i hit my targets i am not that great but hell its really not that bad. anyone tried looking at there router settings? if i can kill you when drunk and i do, while not being able to shoot for **** with a controller. then there is something wrong and it may not be the game as much as you think. its looking like bad hit detection is there battle cry of a sore loser. too many people blame hit detection for there own short falls. anybody want to jump in and blame there luck on hit detection. You should leave the opinions to the people who know what they are doing since you Obviously are new at this. Good try though
Ves Kytaar 1	Posted - 2012.08.20 11:03:00 - [3] - Quote I'm guessing you've not encountered some good dancing scout suits, or tried sniping...
Dzark Kill Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 115	Posted - 2012.08.20 11:06:00 - [4] - Quote Alls i know is when i play well and my aim (Read: my ability to get the crosshair over the enemy) I get lots of kills and assists. When my aim (Read: my ability to get the crosshair over the enemy) is bad i get killed alot. So the enemy is hitting me. People are on the leader board with lots of kills in a weekend. To me there is nothing wrong with hit detection. I play with auto aim off, maybe those who notice bad hit detection are playing with autoaim on and its working as intended as to be not too OP'd. IDK all looks good to me so far.
Nexus Dragoon 514 BetaMax. 78	Posted - 2012.08.20 11:11:00 - [5] - Quote Dzark Kill wrote: Alls i know is when i play well and my aim (Read: my ability to get the crosshair over the enemy) I get lots of kills and assists. When my aim (Read: my ability to get the crosshair over the enemy) is bad i get killed alot. So the enemy is hitting me. People are on the leader board with lots of kills in a weekend. To me there is nothing wrong with hit detection. I play with auto aim off, maybe those who notice bad hit detection are playing with autoaim on and its working as intended as to be not too OP'd. IDK all looks good to me so far. i am not the only one its good to see. but as you can see some people will not even entertain the possibly there router might need a little work. or that they really suck at this game.
Nexus Dragoon 514 BetaMax. 78	Posted - 2012.08.20 11:14:00 - [6] - Quote Ves Kytaar wrote: I'm guessing you've not encountered some good dancing scout suits, or tried sniping... yes scout do need a little work but its getting to the point that if you miss blame hit detection. thats just not true, scouts maybe but not everyone.
D'Finn Rhedlyne Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 266	Posted - 2012.08.20 11:18:00 - [7] - Quote I gotta admit that i'm having a hard time with hit detection, but all things considered it is probably down to my skills being reset. SKILL UP = KILLS UP. Not sure what the 21-ers are gonna make of it though... brace yourself forumites.... because tomorrow is a whole new ball game. BTW, 21-ers is a little reference to the 6-ers on now cancelled TV show Terra Nova. "Sixers", a rebel group that arrived with the Sixth Pilgrimage but who soon broke away to oppose Terra Nova and to prepare the way for the Phoenix Group's invasion.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.08.20 11:23:00 - [8] - Quote Thank you, OP. +1 There ARE hit detection issues. There are other issues as well. But the hit detection has DEFINITELY gotten MUCH better since the last build, and that was better than the previous build, and it's (mostly) not hit detection issues causing a lot of the problems. Sometimes it's lag making it LOOK like there are hit detection issues, or stacking with the lack of hitscan projectile tracking on most weapons, or simply that the player isn't used to having to lead their shots, and almost all of these, at some point, by someone, are getting blamed on hit detection.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 256	Posted - 2012.08.20 11:27:00 - [9] - Quote I only notice hit detection issues when fighting scout suits. So I'm going to go out on a limb and say the problem is the scout suit.
JaZZa01 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 81	Posted - 2012.08.20 11:30:00 - [10] - Quote Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote: i have had a lot of fun with this new build. all i am hear is bad hit detection well i am not that great at the ps3 controller shooters but i am doing alright i hit my targets i am not that great but hell its really not that bad. Says it all, doesn't it

Iceyburnz 316	Posted - 2012.08.20 11:46:00 - [11] - Quote There is a real issue with object clipping.
Zerlathon Algintal Core Gallente Federation 213	Posted - 2012.08.20 11:49:00 - [12] - Quote I think hit detection and lag compensation needs a little work done. At present, playing on any servers that are not EU are a no go for me. I specced into running around with a shotgun and I've tried aiming directly at them as well as aiming slightly ahead of them... Neither of these tactics work, and with a shotgun (or any semi-automatic for that matter) it's a major problem.
D'Finn Rhedlyne Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 266	Posted - 2012.08.20 11:55:00 - [13] - Quote Iceyburnz wrote: There is a real issue with object clipping. +1 could not agree more! I swear, I emptied a full clip and then some in to some guy behind a small barrier (the X shaped things)... nada, nish, zip, zilch damage...
Nexus Dragoon 514 BetaMax. 78	Posted - 2012.08.20 11:56:00 - [14] - Quote crying about hit detection helps no one if the is a real problem be specific there is a problem with scouts. what else ? just dont cry hit detection its become the battle cry of the noob due to it being too freely used. good to see some of you already get that.
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS 108	Posted - 2012.08.20 12:02:00 - [15] - Quote it was realy bad on saturday and most of sunday but seems to be better now why was this l would like to know?
Nexus Dragoon 514 BetaMax. 78	Posted - 2012.08.20 12:05:00 - [16] - Quote BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote: it was realy bad on saturday and most of sunday but seems to be better now why was this l would like to know? cool so the weekend load caused problems what type of problems did you have
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS 108	Posted - 2012.08.20 12:09:00 - [17] - Quote Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote: crying about hit detection helps no one if the is a real problem be specific there is a problem with scouts. what else ? just dont cry hit detection its become the battle cry of the noob due to it being too freely used. good to see some of you already get that. played much n00b ya self jusy because YOU have not experienced it doesn't mean it does not happen to people and it's got nothing to do with scouts NUB !
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.08.20 12:13:00 - [18] - Quote Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote: Dzark Kill wrote: Alls i know is when i play well and my aim (Read: my ability to get the crosshair over the enemy) I get lots of kills and assists. When my aim (Read: my ability to get the crosshair over the enemy) is bad i get killed alot. So the enemy is hitting me. People are on the leader board with lots of kills in a weekend. To me there is nothing wrong with hit detection. I play with auto aim off, maybe those who notice bad hit detection are playing with autoaim on and its working as intended as to be not too OP'd. IDK all looks good to me so far. i am not the only one its good to see. but as you can see some people will not even entertain the possibly there router might need a little work. or that they really suck at this game. HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA dude the hit detection is ass if this is to be a "AAA" game like CCP said it will be they need to fix it yea sure ppls routers need work, makes ALOT of sense seeing as ppl play other games just ******* fine yup seems legit ppl complain about a huge gamebreaking issue in the game......they must be bad at the game, awesome logic im sure most ppl that bring up the hit detection issue fall under 2 categories 1. being good at the game 2. actually spend time playing FPS
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.08.20 12:15:00 - [19] - Quote Abron Garr wrote: I only notice hit detection issues when fighting scout suits. So I'm going to go out on a limb and say the problem is the scout suit. its all suits tbh u just notice it a hell of alot more on lolscouts
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.20 12:15:00 - [20] - Quote All i know that if I put a bullet stream in front of a scout and cross it over the scout the scout gets hit repeat two or three times scout is dead.

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.08.20 12:21:00 - [21] - Quote Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote: crying about hit detection helps no one if the is a real problem be specific there is a problem with scouts. what else ? just dont cry hit detection its become the battle cry of the noob due to it being too freely used. good to see some of you already get that. I usually run as a Scout, and I have no trouble being hit by other players, or hitting other Scouts. When it's laggy, you have to horribly overcompensate with leading your shots even at point-blank, because lag introduces firing delays which cause weird problems (your shots still fire from where you were standing, in the direction you were firing, but a moment later - sometimes with enough delay to dodge, turn, and SEE your shot firing from a position you're no longer standing in), and that's a problem. It's more that Scouts move faster, and are more affected by this problem because of it, than because there's a problem specifically with the Scouts themselves. And it's ALSO not an issue (in most cases) with the hit detection. It's an issue with firing delay, and with projectile movement speeds (because the game doesn't use hitscan for most weapons), and when THOSE problems are addressed, the rest should mostly sort itself out. As I keep saying, hit detection still isn't perfect. You can sometimes ACTUALLY have legitimate hit detection problems - but they're no worse for Scouts than any other suit. The times where your shot actually connects, but does no damage - sometimes passing through a target it should have hit. THAT'S a hit detection issue, having your shots going off at the wrong time, or traveling too slowly to hit a target accurately at medium range, is NOT a problem with hit detection.
Nexus Dragoon 514 BetaMax. 78	Posted - 2012.08.20 12:29:00 - [22] - Quote BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote: Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote: crying about hit detection helps no one if the is a real problem be specific there is a problem with scouts. what else ? just dont cry hit detection its become the battle cry of the noob due to it being too freely used. good to see some of you already get that. played much n00b ya self jusy because YOU have not experienced it doesn't mean it does not happen to people and it's got nothing to do with scouts NUB ! are you drunk?
Dzark Kill Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 115	Posted - 2012.08.20 12:32:00 - [23] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA dude the hit detection is ass if this is to be a "AAA" game like CCP said it will be they need to fix it yea sure ppls routers need work, makes ALOT of sense seeing as ppl play other games just ******* fine yup seems legit ppl complain about a huge gamebreaking issue in the game......they must be bad at the game, awesome logic im sure most ppl that bring up the hit detection issue fall under 2 categories 1. being good at the game 2. actually spend time playing FPS So let me get this straight most people have no issue with hit detection but a few unlucky soles do and these unlucky soles just happen to be the ones that are good at FPS's or those who have spent time playing them.... Nice arguement...
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.08.20 12:34:00 - [24] - Quote Just tried the very quick back and forward strafe on the scout not movign more than 1 meter side to side and wtf ! Yea thats broken. 20,000+ scout kills to my name and been doing it wrong all along. Would exploit the hell outa this but trying to learn to use a fatsuit. Edit Could it be that its tricking the aim assist?:
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS 108	Posted - 2012.08.20 12:37:00 - [25] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote: Dzark Kill wrote: Alls i know is when i play well and my aim (Read: my ability to get the crosshair over the enemy) I get lots of kills and assists. When my aim (Read: my ability to get the crosshair over the enemy) is bad i get killed alot. So the enemy is hitting me. People are on the leader board with lots of kills in a weekend. To me there is nothing wrong with hit detection. I play with auto aim off, maybe those who notice bad hit detection are playing with autoaim on and its working as intended as to be not too OP'd. IDK all looks good to me so far. i am not the only one its good to see. but as you can see some people will not even entertain the possibly there router might need a little work. or that they really suck at this game. HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA dude the hit detection is ass if this is to be a "AAA" game like CCP said it will be they need to fix it yea sure ppls routers need work, makes ALOT of sense seeing as ppl play other games just ******* fine yup seems legit ppl complain about a huge gamebreaking issue in the game......they must be bad at the game, awesome logic im sure most ppl that bring up the hit detection issue fall under 2 categories 1. being good at the game 2. actually spend time playing FPS THIS ^^^ HD is a intermitent problem it can go on for hours and then as if by magic you can kill again i had 18 hr of play with bad HD but when i got back on no problem i went from a kdr of 0.85 to1.14 in 3hr i had deficet of about 50 deaths and now i am positive still using malitia gear so what is it that makes this happen hope all you n00bs who think thereis no problem get a dose of bad HD that last a week
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS 108	Posted - 2012.08.20 12:41:00 - [26] - Quote Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote: BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote: Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote: crying about hit detection helps no one if the is a real problem be specific there is a problem with scouts. what else ? just dont cry hit detection its become the battle cry of the noob due to it being too freely used. good to see some of you already get that. played much n00b ya self jusy because YOU have not experienced it doesn't mean it does not happen to people and it's got nothing to do with scouts NUB ! are you drunk? are you good player don't see ya much you it the top 1000 lmfao
Nexus Dragoon 514 BetaMax. 78	Posted - 2012.08.20 12:46:00 - [27] - Quote and my point is i am not the best but i do ok, there are problems but to just cry hit detection shows you are too much of a noob to give us any real detail. yes thing are broken but tell us what they are dont cry blame H/D all together and log off it dont help the beta at all. detail please. some of you get this some dont.
Nexus Dragoon 514 BetaMax. 78	Posted - 2012.08.20 12:50:00 - [28] - Quote BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote: Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote: BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote: Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote: crying about hit detection helps no one if the is a real problem be specific there is a problem with scouts. what else ? just dont cry hit detection its become the battle cry of the noob due to it being too freely used. good to see some of you already get that. played much n00b ya self jusy because YOU have not experienced it doesn't mean it does not happen to people and it's got nothing to do with scouts NUB ! are you drunk? are you good player don't see ya much you it the top 1000 lmfao What? drink somewhere else. your not making any sense. sounds like you Drinking Your f**** a* off
Sectum Lightyear Dark-Rising 26	Posted - 2012.08.20 13:06:00 - [29] - Quote Try sniping, where even a stationary target which you get red/orange dot and get no hit from..... Try aiming at anyone standing next to any bit of scenery that sticks up or out Try hitting a moving target, especially scouts with a sniper rifle and watch your shot be up to a second late.. There's a few problems with hitbox detection especially at long distance (basically anything except head or chest doesn't register) There's a lot of problems with clipping around barriers and new textured items. And there's a problem with delay/lag detection for firing, especially if you're unlucky enough to get instant battle'd into a server on the other side of the world. Maybe your spraynpray SMG's and AR's are doing better than others, but you're also working at much closer ranges where these issues are less pronounced. I KNOW this from playing more FPS games than I care to mention, AND playing the last build, and the one before that...
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS 108	Posted - 2012.08.20 13:07:00 - [30] - Quote Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote: and my point is i am not the best but i do ok, there are problems but to just cry hit detection shows you are too much of a noob to give us any real detail. yes thing are broken but tell us what they are dont cry blame H/D all together and log off it dont help the beta at all. detail please. some of you get this some dont. you sir are obviously brain dead and that's that's GFY m8 !



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