the market will be player dominated in the future

Considering that we can't even run Standard gear with any regularity, however, I think they inflated the prices too much.

I'll give a summary of what I said in another thread. New Eden crue. Game designed to punish deathl. You think it's bad for you look at how much eve losses cost. When you die your body keeps your equipment. You want cool equipment all the time get shot less or learn to call logistics. It's not rocket science.

The problem with most other console shooters is there is no risk reward, so we're going to get console players whining about this when they play DUST. Not saying that's the case for anyone here just warning people that this is going to come up again and agian.

I have been waiting for this most wonderful day.

I had a feeling it would go down like this.

There were so many threads going back as far as I can remember about how this was OP and that was OP and some brave souls tried to say that the market and actual (since until now we have been getting inflated sp bonuses) sp reward with passive sp gain would be a huge factor in leveling the playing field...

But no, now that we are getting closer to how the game might actually play out in general release, it's all "Boo, hoo. Where's my stuff I used to not even have to work for? Where's my level five skill after one day of grinding?"

Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha. Suck it up. This is much more like the real deal. No more milk and cookies.

edit* and now, now that we all have to fight in the grunt gear, people are even using the same "new player" argument that they used against all the wonderful gear choices, to defend bigger SP bonuses?!?!

That is: If new players can't get and run the best gear with little or no effort they will not stick with the game.

It used to be: if new players are killed by advanced gear they will get frustrated and won't stick with the game.

So what is it gonna be? Huh?

Too funny.

That's right! We want the game to be Onerous work! Sweat and blood! so that when we come home from work we can play something that's even more strenuous than work itself!

'Don't get shot' doesn't work when one Militia Swarm round kills an LAV.

It does when you can speed around a corner and use the wall as cover.

.... wait what?... seriously kid? There has to be some kind of "fun" in the game or else its not qualified to be a "game".

Weird, I've been making decent isk, still using a combination of militia and salvaged gear, but still putting up a decent fight of it. 2 mill in profits so far, and not even 1/2 way to my expensive suits & guns yet.

Just like in Eve, just because you CAN use something doesn't mean you SHOULD.... If you're hemmoraging ISK by the ton, rethink your fits - use cheaper gear while you finish training the skills to make it the bad ass death machine you remember. We did just have a wipe, so we are ALL back at noob skills - our gear isn't going to work as well as it did before.....

This could ultimately cause camping as people wont want to risk losing much; as even if just 2-3 simple items like that, can easily make a round go negative. This new market-ISK economy is really restricting the player base for ISK & testing purposes.

They put in new weapon variants for items, along w/ modules, etc ; yet now it is quite hard to actually use them regularly to give FEEDBACK

so yeah, continue on; just needed to add that stuff now

It is pretty lame when you buy 5 small armor repers and 5 nanohives and it costed the amout of isk you earned from one match.

.... wait what?... seriously kid? There has to be some kind of "fun" in the game or else its not qualified to be a "game".