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Masta Yoda 843
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Posted - 2012.08.19 03:03:00 -
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also what you forget is when EVE starts giving us contracts were gonna get louded off of those.. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.19 03:13:00 -
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Mo Gallas Gentralde wrote:Summary of what Aighun wrote:
That's right! We want the game to be Onerous work! Sweat and blood! so that when we come home from work we can play something that's even more strenuous than work itself!
.... wait what?... seriously kid? There has to be some kind of "fun" in the game or else its not qualified to be a "game".
Can't tell if responding to my quote, talking to yourself, or responding to misinterpretation of my post in thread... ok, jk.
But about that GǪ summaryGǪnope, you got that completely wrong. I was saying that beta testers developed a completely slanted view of what the skill and gear progression would be like based on 4X hyper inflation. So what I am saying is that we got spoiled. And anyone that is crying because they haven't already earned enough SP to fight in top tier gear or can't earn enough ISK per battle to fight in higher level gear must have missed the endless, let me repeat that, endless and repetitive threads about how unbalanced it was for players in higher tier gear to be hanging around killing new players in low level gear and that such an imbalance would drive away anyone who picked it up and cause the game to fail.
And now it seems like people are saying that if players aren't served the good stuff on a silver platter with a hefty side of extra ISK at the DUST 514 diner then they will up and leave without ordering desert. Or something.
And it is always the same darn thing. Kick yourself in the ass and do three cartwheels through a flaming hoop of cheese or the new players will get bored and leave. Paint the walls with bottle of toenail polish tied to a cat's tail or the new players will not have fun and leave. And the game will fail! Or whatever "the sky is falling" game fail example you want to pick.
No one is forcing anyone to play in gear that is more expensive than they can afford. If anyone is making the beta "work" then it is you, if you feel like the game is work. That is. I have a ton of ISK saved up and have been having fun with a few different fittings. If a player can't have fun unless they are in the best possible suit on what, day two, of the new build the fault lies with that player and there is nothing anyone can do to help them.
Also, I find playing in militia gear to be less work, more relaxing, than playing in the more expensive fittings. It allows me to kick back and get killed with no regrets.
Many people have touted EVE as a game of consequences. That is part of what drew me in to DUST 514. Yes, I will admit to being one of those masochistic console gamers that has sunk untold hours into onerous and punishing games like Dark Souls. I dig that kind of investment and reward. So though I do not want the game to be work (why I often don't bother to plug in mic, I spend all day trying to motivate folks to tackle objectives and sometimes I would rather punch myself in the face than try to group problem solve outside of the job so yeah, I can relate) I do want it to be rewarding.
And I really don't want the game to be a cheese puff shooter. I want there to be risk. I want to feel like I've earned something when I finally make it good as a merc. Don't see how that happened without at least a little work.
If you can figure out an easy way for me to always win chess, please let me know. Also looks like I will have to turn on mic more, work with squad to get squad bonus points. Poop. Ah well. Here goes nothing.
TL;DR Where did that oldest player thread go? Have to post there now. Think someone just called me "kid". |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.08.19 03:18:00 -
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Just want to remind people that from the interview video released last week that eve players will not be creating contracts to hire Dust mercs at release, and the sell orders will be coming from npcs as well. Actual crafting and player contracts will be further down the road. The Dust economy needs to work on release day, not a year after it comes out. By then the game is dead.
There might be some involvement with faction warfare, but I wouldn't put money on eve players generating those contracts at the start. They'll probably be the Dust equivalent of FW missions. |
Bo Tracta
Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2012.08.19 03:50:00 -
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IMO a fairly average-good player should be able to use standard gear (with a bit of militia), and at least break even. At the moment it's a bit borked but I spose we shall have to wait and see what's coming up. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.08.19 04:40:00 -
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Prices are fine and Pub match rewards are prob about right.
What sucks balls is that we dont have all the other ways of making isk in dust open to us yet. 
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Cant trade our salvage cant sell off old outa date gear and no eve sugar dadys and mommys to pay us to hurt each other.
If only we could sell this stuff then well would this be so bad ?
I know its a beta and all but running basic/standard gear for the next few months is going to suck big time.
Sure sure I just need to get good and stop dieing and have corp mates about with nanite injectors and well its not like I'm really that awful at this game but still this is kicking my ass and hell if I'm broke then how are the guys that are pulling 0:14 gona feed the kids ? |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.19 05:15:00 -
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I really do think this is an issue right now. What we're going to be seeing in the beta is the estimated material cost of production, and the sale prices are not going to be any lower than the minimum production cost. Whether its adjusted rewards, or reduced prices, something needs to be done. |
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