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J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.17 03:50:00 -
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Chris needs to stop feeding the flames.
I don't know if you have ever been part of a clan battle on MAG. But there sure as hell is a lot of pre battle planning going on EVEN in that.
In DUST communication is key, if you don't communicate, you won't be organized. Any half decent corp makes plans for the future, at least for the short term.
And with your whole spiel on how randomness makes communication moot, I think you are sadly misinformed. There is nothing random about district capture in DUST, at least from what we know. You go in, assault a district, and take it over. I am pretty sure CCP is gonna make district warfare deeper than saying "Welp, spin the wheel of fortune, looks like you get to attack District 3 today, have fun!"
All in all, your general ideas about communication and planning are rather lacking.. |
Corvus Ravensong
Skyel Industries Subspace Exploration Agency
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Posted - 2012.08.17 04:00:00 -
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J'Jor, do you REALLY think you need to be able to talk to EVERYONE in New Eden? I don't know about you, but there is NO current need for me to be able to voicecoms over long (interstellar) distances. A CEO might need that capability in Dust, occasionally. Your corprate PR guy spining cracts out of contacts WILL need one. Your recruiter, he'll prolly do fine useing dust & eve's built in coms.
Want to do your planning cheap? Use the keyboard you probably used to type your forum post, and use corp chat (text). |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.17 04:09:00 -
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Corvus Ravensong wrote:J'Jor, do you REALLY think you need to be able to talk to EVERYONE in New Eden? I don't know about you, but there is NO current need for me to be able to voicecoms over long (interstellar) distances. A CEO might need that capability in Dust, occasionally. Your corprate PR guy spining cracts out of contacts WILL need one. Your recruiter, he'll prolly do fine useing dust & eve's built in coms.
Want to do your planning cheap? Use the keyboard you probably used to type your forum post, and use corp chat (text).
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Point = Missed
I don't need to talk to everyone in EVE, but I do need to be able to commo with my large corp for operations and planning. So...
Now me personally? My corp uses TS3. And we use it. A lot. So I don't know where you get tour facts about who needs what, But as before, if CCP wanrs them to be used, they need to lower the cost dramatically.
Also, LOL at long distance calling... IN A VIRTUAL WORLD! XD
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Dariuz Krul
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.17 04:17:00 -
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I think there are some misconceptions about New Eden that are causing consternation from the uninformed. "The Sandbox" maintains a level of paranoia and suspicion unrivalled in the Universe..
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Our Corporation\Alliance maintains a TS3 server and a Vent server dedicated to EvE (and soon Dust 514). As well, most of the membership has or has access to the memberships cell numbers and other relevent contact info. To most of us (Eve Players) this whole UVT thing is a non sequitor. We make enough ISK in EvE to dole out Aurum, if need be, to Dust players and Corporations in our employ.
Though we'd probably expect you to TYPE once in a while, too... Consolers...
Don't worry, this is really a pointless gripe, a knee jerk reaction that is way over the top... CCP has to recover some of the costs incurred by this game. Demographics likely show people are willing to dole out the RL Bucks, as long as it is in small increments via microtransactions to warrant it's implementation. If you feel it is too much for you, hook up with a good Corp. They'll hook you up if your interested in forwarding their goals in a straightforward and honest manner..
But, keep in mind, the screening process is sometimes,,, intense...
P.S. I hope you all see the attempt at lighthearted humor here... I think communication will be a minor issue, very easily remedied... What he says VVVV |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.17 04:21:00 -
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UVT = $3.60 a month per person Teamspeak = $0.40 a month per person
What else is there to say? |
Mo Gallas Gentralde
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.17 05:35:00 -
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If you count as a Nonprofit, as in.. don't make physical money off of your gameplay, it appears that the Teamspeak service can be free. If someone in your Corp is capable of hosing it... As shown Here. |
Chris Ridgeway
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Posted - 2012.08.17 06:01:00 -
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Ok so Jwhore or whoever was saying something about the districts up a couple posts. Im not bothering with looking on how to spell it. You expect me to believe that every single district on every single planet is going to be exactly the same? And in the same rotation? If so that's gonna get boring real fast. I said random maps. Or a random order. I didn't say you wouldn't be taking control of districts. I said it'll be random maps, so we'll substitute the word maps for districts. I can't see the making a game with 5 maps/districts, and endlessly rotating those 5 maps/districts in the same exact order for every planet. Therefore, you won't know which map/district you got til you're sitting in the War Room or when you land. So that's when your planning will start. It's kinda like the Instant Queue we got now. I don't know which map we're doing til I hit the ground. At that point I start listening and talking to my team..which is free.
As Ive said, Ill use TS Vent or some other chat program, I don't really care what they do with the UVTs. Im gonna be a Merc. Plain and simple. Ive been offered positions in Corps in EVE and turned them down or ignored the requests. I've ran a decent sized corp in EVE for a bit, didn't like doing it. Too many reres to keep up with and talk to. I simply want to go in and kill people. Ill leave the politics and **** to the less skilled players. The ones that have time for all the talking and bullshitting because they ain't on the ground killing people. And yes that's exactly how I see that. Battles are won by Soldiers not the ****** sitting at his desk. And before anyone starts, yes Ive been in the military in real life. And Ive always had that opinion. I couldn't care less about a damn General or what he thought. He wasn't on the ground. That Corp leader most times isn't on the ground. And it ain't like he earned that spot of Corp Leader, any crackhead with some ISK can start a corp and be CEO.
The whole point of this entire thread was to simply say all the complaining about the UVTs in multiple threads wasn't helping anything. If you don't want to use it, don't pay for it. Because at the end of the day, the only people you need Voice Comms with are the people in the battle with you. Otherwise, use the US Postal Service, a phone call, or god forbid use your fingers and type it out. |
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