DUST Search - To the UVT Complainers

Traynor Youngs wrote:

Chris Ridgeway wrote:

First Off. Nobody that is a "gamer" has that many people that need to hear what they have to say all the time. Nobody has that many friends that they need to constantly talk to. So get over it. Reality Check, you ain't got that many friends.

Second. This trying to strategize before the round is crap as well. You won't know til the round starts who is in the match from Corp A or B. You can assume or guess, but you don't know. And I doubt you are gonna know which map you get before the round starts anyway. Now in BETA yeah we can see which map. In the game while taking a planet, it ain't gonna tell you which map you drew. Im gonna bet thats random. So all the preplanning just got thrown out the window. You need to start making plans when you hit the field. And if you're a good group you'll already know what each squad is doing without having to say anything anyway.

Third. If you don't want to pay for it, don't pay for it. Im not gonna pay for Corp Comms. I can type with my DPad on the PS3 controller in Corp Chat. Hey Im on, Im a sniper, send me an invite when you get ready to go. DONE. Ill talk to them in game. I don't need to hear 15 mins of preplanning that's gonna get totally wrecked when we hit the field anyway. ADAPT, the best plan is a fluid plan.

Fourth. Damn I thought the EVE and DUST community wasn't a bunch of whiny bitches. The game is still in beta, so play have fun, and help the game improve. And remember no one actually really wants to hear you whine and complain about something you don't have to pay for. You got a technical concern, wall clipping, instant battle not working, your game freezeing, say something. Otherwise stop the bitching about optional damn content.

Oh and flaming and trying to start an arguement with me isn't gonna work. Ive said what I have to say. Like it or hate, I don't care.

I don't think you know how this game works.

Maps are almost never gonna be random. They are PERSISTENT, the OPPOSITE of random.


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Chris Ridgeway 42	Posted - 2012.08.15 19:16:00 - [1] - Quote First Off. Nobody that is a "gamer" has that many people that need to hear what they have to say all the time. Nobody has that many friends that they need to constantly talk to. So get over it. Reality Check, you ain't got that many friends. Second. This trying to strategize before the round is crap as well. You won't know til the round starts who is in the match from Corp A or B. You can assume or guess, but you don't know. And I doubt you are gonna know which map you get before the round starts anyway. Now in BETA yeah we can see which map. In the game while taking a planet, it ain't gonna tell you which map you drew. Im gonna bet thats random. So all the preplanning just got thrown out the window. You need to start making plans when you hit the field. And if you're a good group you'll already know what each squad is doing without having to say anything anyway. Third. If you don't want to pay for it, don't pay for it. Im not gonna pay for Corp Comms. I can type with my DPad on the PS3 controller in Corp Chat. Hey Im on, Im a sniper, send me an invite when you get ready to go. DONE. Ill talk to them in game. I don't need to hear 15 mins of preplanning that's gonna get totally wrecked when we hit the field anyway. ADAPT, the best plan is a fluid plan. Fourth. Damn I thought the EVE and DUST community wasn't a bunch of whiny bitches. The game is still in beta, so play have fun, and help the game improve. And remember no one actually really wants to hear you whine and complain about something you don't have to pay for. You got a technical concern, wall clipping, instant battle not working, your game freezeing, say something. Otherwise stop the bitching about optional damn content. Oh and flaming and trying to start an arguement with me isn't gonna work. Ive said what I have to say. Like it or hate, I don't care.
Chris Ridgeway 42	Posted - 2012.08.15 19:31:00 - [2] - Quote No there Icey, I didn't say you were friendless, and Im not a troll. I simply said everyone doesn't have as many "friends" as they act like they do. Ain't no one got that many people that need to hear them talk all the time. I get tired of hearing all the people I play LoL with talk, and there's only 4 others besides me. There is no reason to talk that much. Goes back to the old saying, You have 2 ears and 1 mouth so you can listen twice as much as you can talk. Im of the opinion that if you have to pay for Corp Chat and up, then so be it. That's why I use Ventrilo/Teamspeak.
Chris Ridgeway 42	Posted - 2012.08.15 20:42:00 - [3] - Quote I have more than 3 friends, however all the people on my Friends list aren't necessarily friends. They are people I play games with. Yes Ive played Eve, that's why I wanted to play Dust. And Ive been in Fleets, and after listening to someone drone on for 15mins about the "plan" Im tired of hearing them talk. Because on so many occasions the "plan" only lasted til we made first contact. In which case that whole plan went to ****. So we had to plan on the run. I also get the feeling people are thinking this game is gonna be alot more in depth than it's actually going to be. Talking about holding planets across multiple star systems. As far as Ive seen Dust players show up fight and move on. You ain't holding anything. I don't think you're gonna convince people to planet camp like people gate camp in EVE. If you own a planet and I own the space above you, what do you really own? Nothing. You can't fly anything in or out. It's like setting up a blockade around a city. You'll eventually starve them out. So needing to have a constant track of what your DUST corp is holding at this point is a mute arguement. You don't know that the Dust players are gonna own anything. You may just go fight and then the EVE corp that hires you gets control of that planet while you move on. You are taking on the role of a Merc. What does a merc care about a planet? All he wants is his money and to know where his next fight is gonna be. He doesn't care if there's a Pelagiacyte mine on the planet. He isn't gonna go mine it. And you're gonna be hard pressed to convince someone to sit in a lookout tower on a planet, waiting on people to possibly land. Point being you still don't need to talk to 1000 plus people at one time. The only people you absolutely have to have comms with are the people in the battle with you and that's provided for FREE.
Chris Ridgeway 42	Posted - 2012.08.15 21:16:00 - [4] - Quote I hope it gets that in depth. Cause that would be awesome. Like Ive said several times, I have alot of hope for this game. Cause it could be an awesome game if they do it right. I want the game to succeed I really do, cause so far Ive had a blast playing it. I don't think the UVT's are too much to ask of players. Maybe a tish expensive, but not to much to ask as far as comms go. Don't forget if you aren't in combat, you can always type it out. You don't have to be in that big a hurry.
Chris Ridgeway 42	Posted - 2012.08.15 23:53:00 - [5] - Quote Traynor Youngs wrote: Chris Ridgeway wrote: First Off. Nobody that is a "gamer" has that many people that need to hear what they have to say all the time. Nobody has that many friends that they need to constantly talk to. So get over it. Reality Check, you ain't got that many friends. Second. This trying to strategize before the round is crap as well. You won't know til the round starts who is in the match from Corp A or B. You can assume or guess, but you don't know. And I doubt you are gonna know which map you get before the round starts anyway. Now in BETA yeah we can see which map. In the game while taking a planet, it ain't gonna tell you which map you drew. Im gonna bet thats random. So all the preplanning just got thrown out the window. You need to start making plans when you hit the field. And if you're a good group you'll already know what each squad is doing without having to say anything anyway. Third. If you don't want to pay for it, don't pay for it. Im not gonna pay for Corp Comms. I can type with my DPad on the PS3 controller in Corp Chat. Hey Im on, Im a sniper, send me an invite when you get ready to go. DONE. Ill talk to them in game. I don't need to hear 15 mins of preplanning that's gonna get totally wrecked when we hit the field anyway. ADAPT, the best plan is a fluid plan. Fourth. Damn I thought the EVE and DUST community wasn't a bunch of whiny bitches. The game is still in beta, so play have fun, and help the game improve. And remember no one actually really wants to hear you whine and complain about something you don't have to pay for. You got a technical concern, wall clipping, instant battle not working, your game freezeing, say something. Otherwise stop the bitching about optional damn content. Oh and flaming and trying to start an arguement with me isn't gonna work. Ive said what I have to say. Like it or hate, I don't care. I don't think you know how this game works. Maps are almost never gonna be random. They are PERSISTENT, the OPPOSITE of random. /sigh Traynor. Persistent is not the Opposite of Random. 1.persisting, especially in spite of opposition, obstacles, discouragement, etc.; persevering: a most annoyingly persistent young man. 2.lasting or enduring tenaciously: the persistent aroma of verbena; a persistent cough. 3.constantly repeated; continued: persistent noise. ran-+domGÇé 1.proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern: the random selection of numbers. 2.Statistics . of or characterizing a process of selection in which each item of a set has an equal probability of being chosen. 3.Building Trades . a.(of building materials) lacking uniformity of dimensions: random shingles. b.(of ashlar) laid without continuous courses. c.constructed or applied without regularity: random bond. 4.Informal . a.unknown, unidentified, or out of place: A couple of random guys showed up at the party. b.odd and unpredictable in an amusing way: my totally random life. Now you can be one of those people that picks out only part of a definition to counter the other one. However, while the Universe of Eve is a persistent world, and the Dust world and planets will be persistent. Im saying that when you get to a planet, if there is more than 1 map per planet you'll get them in a random order. Such as map 5,1,7,3,6,9,4. And I don't think every desert planet will only have maps 1-10. You may get to another desert planet with completely different maps. So while yes it's a persistent world. The map selection process can be random. And to the people with the 4 player group arguements. It's still beta which as been said in this thread several times. So we don't know what the final group size is gonna be.
Chris Ridgeway 42	Posted - 2012.08.17 06:01:00 - [6] - Quote Ok so Jwhore or whoever was saying something about the districts up a couple posts. Im not bothering with looking on how to spell it. You expect me to believe that every single district on every single planet is going to be exactly the same? And in the same rotation? If so that's gonna get boring real fast. I said random maps. Or a random order. I didn't say you wouldn't be taking control of districts. I said it'll be random maps, so we'll substitute the word maps for districts. I can't see the making a game with 5 maps/districts, and endlessly rotating those 5 maps/districts in the same exact order for every planet. Therefore, you won't know which map/district you got til you're sitting in the War Room or when you land. So that's when your planning will start. It's kinda like the Instant Queue we got now. I don't know which map we're doing til I hit the ground. At that point I start listening and talking to my team..which is free. As Ive said, Ill use TS Vent or some other chat program, I don't really care what they do with the UVTs. Im gonna be a Merc. Plain and simple. Ive been offered positions in Corps in EVE and turned them down or ignored the requests. I've ran a decent sized corp in EVE for a bit, didn't like doing it. Too many reres to keep up with and talk to. I simply want to go in and kill people. Ill leave the politics and ** to the less skilled players. The ones that have time for all the talking and bullshitting because they ain't on the ground killing people. And yes that's exactly how I see that. Battles are won by Soldiers not the **** sitting at his desk. And before anyone starts, yes Ive been in the military in real life. And Ive always had that opinion. I couldn't care less about a damn General or what he thought. He wasn't on the ground. That Corp leader most times isn't on the ground. And it ain't like he earned that spot of Corp Leader, any crackhead with some ISK can start a corp and be CEO. The whole point of this entire thread was to simply say all the complaining about the UVTs in multiple threads wasn't helping anything. If you don't want to use it, don't pay for it. Because at the end of the day, the only people you need Voice Comms with are the people in the battle with you. Otherwise, use the US Postal Service, a phone call, or god forbid use your fingers and type it out.