DUST Search - 1200 aur drop suits. Anyone tempted?

gangsta nachos wrote:

Rorek IronBlood wrote:

Okay. So it's a nod off to MAG players without ruining the game. Not a bad idea, or thought. I am confussed though -- are they BPO (Blueprint Originals) or are they not? Some are saying they are, and I have no reason to doubt, Iron Wolf Saber, on this issue; and other's are not.

Also anyone feel sad for the heavy users suddenly? No, specialty MAG tribute item? Also if they are BPO's I feel while this is not a bad way of doing such I just hope that CCP will not get too trigger happy with BPO's upon release. They need to make sure BPO's are balanced and never exceed standard gear though. Especially at the moment, or early on in Dust514's life upon release. It would be a dissaster.

On a side note -- where are our [beta] event dropsuits? Just curious.

BPO's are balance anyone can have them right ? Then you get the complaint that they are AUR items and its pay to win. Then I shall give you the eve answer many have received its not pay to win as soon as the market is live you can buy bpo's with isk on the market some one will sale them.

Adapt or die the more bpo's the more AUR The more exchanges for isk on the market

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Iceyburnz 316	Posted - 2012.08.14 23:43:00 - [1] - Quote Incase you hadn't noticed there are now 1200 AUR drop suits on the market. As far as I can tell thats for 1 drop suit, when you die its gone. I don't think its a bug because all the other drop ship categories have one. I certainly won't be paying 4 euros for 1 drop suit when I can get the same suit for 3 aur at a slightly different colour. Anyone tempted? (FYI: its just like all the other vanity variants except its at a really high "prestige" price). EDIT: I was misinformed. The suits are infact BPOs and perma-items. The question "Would you be tempted?" is still valid though.
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.08.14 23:45:00 - [2] - Quote they look like little nods to the mag players. the assault is black and named "raven", the logistics is orange and named "sever" and the scout is green and named "valor" those were the 3 mag factions and their colors. (though some may argue that raven was blue. the ui was purple/blue/gunmetal but the uniforms were black) EDIT: and yes, i bought a raven suit. to much grey, not enough black <.< but it's BPO so i might use it.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.14 23:45:00 - [3] - Quote They're BPOs and luckily only the type 1s.
Just Bad Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 34	Posted - 2012.08.14 23:46:00 - [4] - Quote 1200 AUR... Better come with a smoking jacket texture and monocle affixed to the helmet for that price.
Iceyburnz 316	Posted - 2012.08.14 23:50:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They're BPOs and luckily only the type 1s. I don't think they are BPOs. I'll buy one when I get my character wipe. If they are BPOs then thats actually just about right. If not, they are more than abit pricey. Smoking jacket and monocle better damn be included as Just Bad says Having a look right now, can't see a way of telling the difference between BPC and BPO.
Winscar Shinobi 50	Posted - 2012.08.14 23:54:00 - [6] - Quote They are a 1 time buy permanent item :)
Iceyburnz 316	Posted - 2012.08.14 23:59:00 - [7] - Quote Winscar Shinobi wrote: They are a 1 time buy permanent item :) You sure ? If they are, disregard the stealth whine thread . I hope so, I came this close to filling out an drunken epic bug report about it in which I spend two paragraphs questions the parentage of every member of the development team.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 00:01:00 - [8] - Quote Iceyburnz wrote: Winscar Shinobi wrote: They are a 1 time buy permanent item :) You sure ? If they are, disregard the stealth whine thread . I hope so, I came this close to filling out an drunken epic bug report about it in which I spend two paragraphs questions the parentage of every member of the development team. yes Im sure I bought them all.
lDocHollidayl Imperfects Negative-Feedback 171	Posted - 2012.08.15 00:02:00 - [9] - Quote That is an awesome nod to MAG. Freakin Kudos CCP.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 583	Posted - 2012.08.15 01:06:00 - [10] - Quote I bought the SVER and Raven ones, pretty badass. Raven: The cloth is all white but all the armor plates and helmet are black, with white LED lighting around the sides of the faceplate. SVER: The cloth is brown on the legs with a slightly lighter brown on the torso. The piping around the armor and down the sides of the legs is a bright orange. The strapping over shoulder and across the chest is white. The mask is brown with a glowing orange eye. Honestly it looks a little goofy, I think the orange is a little bright for my taste, but some people may like it. The suits are BPOs so they're unlimited and have the same stats as the Type-I variants. Oh also the Sever suit gets a x10 damage multiplier and built in MP3 player that plays Apocalyptica when you get a kill streak (Kidding of course)

Garma QUDA Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 468	Posted - 2012.08.15 01:10:00 - [11] - Quote The KGB will have a suit dedicated to them as well. Now!
Kengfa 138	Posted - 2012.08.15 01:11:00 - [12] - Quote Iceyburnz wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They're BPOs and luckily only the type 1s. I don't think they are BPOs. I'll buy one when I get my character wipe. If they are BPOs then thats actually just about right. If not, they are more than abit pricey. Smoking jacket and monocle better damn be included as Just Bad says Having a look right now, can't see a way of telling the difference between BPC and BPO. I know for sure it's a BPO I have one.
BluMage 18	Posted - 2012.08.15 01:13:00 - [13] - Quote THANK YOU CCP! Up until this point the barrier of entry for logistic were just too darn high, but this gives logistics players a way to jump in early through a little pocket change. As long as the keep it to lower level models I think this is an awesome idea!
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.15 01:40:00 - [14] - Quote Are you kidding? BPO suits and premium voice comms? WTF is CCP thinking. So much for "not P2W".
Gilbatron Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda 81	Posted - 2012.08.15 01:47:00 - [15] - Quote they should sell skins and not type I dropsuits :( hope that gets changed. also 1200 aurum is possibly a bit to expensive
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.08.15 02:06:00 - [16] - Quote If ccp stopped acting stupid and made that 4$ for an unlockable color choice, like lol. Then I'd buy a bunch honestly. I just like supporting the company and throwing 10 a month at them is like the cost of an mmos buy I pay after playing for a month. So I like having the freedom to.not pay of I think an expansion is bad or bad balance choices. Why have the color per suit, that's stupid. You buy s color once you get it forever. And if you buy a new higher level dropsuit the custom colors you bought can be used on those too. One buy forever color. Treat it like a blueprint for your MQ's paint machine. You need the blue print for your equipment to have the pattern you want.
Ryuyoshi Hanaya Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2012.08.15 02:07:00 - [17] - Quote its not p2w its pretty expensive for a bpo thats only as good as the lowest tier of the logistics suit if it was an advanced or proto then itd be p2w and i agree with the paying for voice chat wth...
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.08.15 02:12:00 - [18] - Quote The dumb marthafockers that pay for chat will buy them
Waruiko DUST G I A N T 90	Posted - 2012.08.15 02:31:00 - [19] - Quote if we ***** about coms enough they might fix them. They can't just up and change the way coms work over night but they can quickly change the price of the 30 day com units to free or some isk value
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.08.15 02:36:00 - [20] - Quote Buzzwords wrote: they look like little nods to the mag players. the assault is black and named "raven", the logistics is orange and named "sever" and the scout is green and named "valor" those were the 3 mag factions and their colors. (though some may argue that raven was blue. the ui was purple/blue/gunmetal but the uniforms were black) EDIT: and yes, i bought a raven suit. to much grey, not enough black <.< but it's BPO so i might use it. This is cool

gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.08.15 02:40:00 - [21] - Quote Gilbatron wrote: they should sell skins and not type I dropsuits :( hope that gets changed. also 1200 aurum is possibly a bit to expensive If there are mag drops suits they got me thank you ccp * throws wallet at tv * take my money this is how to run a business I love mag and I will gladly buy one of each Edit. ***** NDA I want to scream and gossip like a little ***
Alshadow Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 71	Posted - 2012.08.15 02:47:00 - [22] - Quote i wish the logistics one wasnt sver, i was all valor, but ill still wear it just because its cool lookin
Arborius Veredus 31	Posted - 2012.08.15 02:52:00 - [23] - Quote These are things I'd actually drop AUR for. I don't really like the idea of spending AUR on something that will exhaust itself in a few days.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.08.15 02:55:00 - [24] - Quote Okay. So it's a nod off to MAG players without ruining the game. Not a bad idea, or thought. I am confussed though -- are they BPO (Blueprint Originals) or are they not? Some are saying they are, and I have no reason to doubt, Iron Wolf Saber, on this issue; and other's are not. Also anyone feel sad for the heavy users suddenly? No, specialty MAG tribute item? Also if they are BPO's I feel while this is not a bad way of doing such I just hope that CCP will not get too trigger happy with BPO's upon release. They need to make sure BPO's are balanced and never exceed standard gear though. Especially at the moment, or early on in Dust514's life upon release. It would be a dissaster. On a side note -- where are our [beta] event dropsuits? Just curious.
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:06:00 - [25] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: Okay. So it's a nod off to MAG players without ruining the game. Not a bad idea, or thought. I am confussed though -- are they BPO (Blueprint Originals) or are they not? Some are saying they are, and I have no reason to doubt, Iron Wolf Saber, on this issue; and other's are not. Also anyone feel sad for the heavy users suddenly? No, specialty MAG tribute item? Also if they are BPO's I feel while this is not a bad way of doing such I just hope that CCP will not get too trigger happy with BPO's upon release. They need to make sure BPO's are balanced and never exceed standard gear though. Especially at the moment, or early on in Dust514's life upon release. It would be a dissaster. On a side note -- where are our [beta] event dropsuits? Just curious. BPO's are balance anyone can have them right ? Then you get the complaint that they are AUR items and its pay to win. Then I shall give you the eve answer many have received its not pay to win as soon as the market is live you can buy bpo's with isk on the market some one will sale them. Adapt or die the more bpo's the more AUR The more exchanges for isk on the market
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:18:00 - [26] - Quote gangsta nachos wrote: Rorek IronBlood wrote: Okay. So it's a nod off to MAG players without ruining the game. Not a bad idea, or thought. I am confussed though -- are they BPO (Blueprint Originals) or are they not? Some are saying they are, and I have no reason to doubt, Iron Wolf Saber, on this issue; and other's are not. Also anyone feel sad for the heavy users suddenly? No, specialty MAG tribute item? Also if they are BPO's I feel while this is not a bad way of doing such I just hope that CCP will not get too trigger happy with BPO's upon release. They need to make sure BPO's are balanced and never exceed standard gear though. Especially at the moment, or early on in Dust514's life upon release. It would be a dissaster. On a side note -- where are our [beta] event dropsuits? Just curious. BPO's are balance anyone can have them right ? Then you get the complaint that they are AUR items and its pay to win. Then I shall give you the eve answer many have received its not pay to win as soon as the market is live you can buy bpo's with isk on the market some one will sale them. Adapt or die the more bpo's the more AUR The more exchanges for isk on the market No, I have my aprehensians to which I stated in my postings. I do feel that BPO's should be regulated by CCP, but that also CCP should not be "trigger happy" with the BPO's. At the moment I am just trying to confirm if they are BPO's or not. If you are asking how I feel about AUR purchasable BPO's in very small quanities such as this; I have to state that I am weary. I feel if this is the extent of AUR BPO's at the moment or for a lengthy period of time say a year or so I will not be so worried. They are accessible to anyone whom with AUR, or connections and extra ISK to spare in trades, or sales. However as I stated I am weary of this. I feel this should not be a direction for either Dust514, or CCP as it sends mixed signals. While granted this is free to play game, and I understand a business needs money for the longevity of Dust514 I feel this would be a bad road to take. It's a fine line. Flooding the AUR market with BPO's would tell people this is a pay to win game. Which no one here wants. As I have stated in the past with topics of BPO's though -- they need to be regulated, and centered around events, and tournaments. Not only that though, but regulated to only militia and standard tech levels. That would be the safest way to regulate and balance BPO's while promoting the player driven market. I hope this helps to explain my thoughts better, Gangsta Nachos.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:25:00 - [27] - Quote Provided it is kept to the lowest tiers this is very good. I'll be buying some kind of BPO. I'd imagine all the special beta suits and the suit from the merc pack will be available for a similar price. Vanity stuff shouldn't run out. It should also be restricted to the affordable end of the market. Both in ISK, and -ú-ú-ú. Cheap and cheerful. But effective none the less. I would hate to see typeII BPO's. Is there any kind of industry in EvE currently like respray shops? I think a clan/corp/alliance colour set would be a very cool addition. Make it only work on militia suits. It's just for show / practise / esport. I'm looking forward to playing MAG2 :D
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:33:00 - [28] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Provided it is kept to the lowest tiers this is very good. I'll be buying some kind of BPO. I'd imagine all the special beta suits and the suit from the merc pack will be available for a similar price. Vanity stuff shouldn't run out. It should also be restricted to the affordable end of the market. Both in ISK, and -ú-ú-ú. Cheap and cheerful. But effective none the less. I would hate to see typeII BPO's. Is there any kind of industry in EvE currently like respray shops? I think a clan/corp/alliance colour set would be a very cool addition. Make it only work on militia suits. It's just for show / practise / esport. I'm looking forward to playing MAG2 :D Ha-ha. Sorry, but I had to laugh aloud at what you said at the bottom -- mad me laugh in a good way. I think in some ways for a lot of people this is the only oppurtunity at a MAG sequel, if only in some ways an off-shoot spiritual successor. Funny enough though when you think about it Warhawk was rustic and heavily based on Earth, and the confines of a more life based fiction "what-if" and Starhawk like Dus514 both ended up being highly sci-fi influenced fiction. Not a bad thing, but funny. I'm not saying this is a MAG sequel (it's not), but I find it nice to see CCP giving a nod to those of us whom played MAG. Sort of how they gave keyboard and mouse support to the PC players. Certainly not the same things, but still a point. Edit: I also forgot to mention that yes, they are BPO's. I caved, and bought two of them. I bough a "Raven" assault outfit because, that was my true PMC in MAG and I bought the "Valor" scout suit because, I enjoyed playing for them more then I ever did for Sver. Also wearing a trash bag did not help my wanting to play that god awful PMC. Awful in that the people primarily in Sver were douche' bags. Deny it all you want, but considering I knew many of the clans steming from that PMC I have to say it like I saw it. These are BPO's though.
Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.08.15 04:20:00 - [29] - Quote Quote: Quote: Obligatory comment about whining - Pay to win - every time someone adds an item into the game that uses AUR but isn't EXACTLY IDENTICAL in stats to a non-AUR seeded item. Obligatory reference to how this is similar to the EVE marketplace & suggestion that the player marketplace will help balance things. Obligatory signature. Obligatory reply defending accusations that it IS - Pay to win - because someone paid for it & they might win. Obligatory response indicating replier needs to learn how to play while implying that a lack of skill can't be made up for with the purchase of pretty toys. Obligatory reference to whiny carebears. Obligatory signature.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.15 04:35:00 - [30] - Quote im going to back away from all the raging on either side and just make a quick statement.... I applaud CCP for their efforts, enjoy their game, and feel like they have already given me enough satisfaction in Dust to earn a buck or two. I will make aurum purchases anyway, but that's just me. My corp is a SVER carry over, so I'll probs buy a sever suit just for ***** and gigs out of respect for my corp, since their a great group of guys and i never did play MAG. What's 5 bucks here and there? Seriously. Who gets mad at that?

PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 781	Posted - 2012.08.15 04:38:00 - [31] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I bought the SVER and Raven ones, pretty badass. Raven: The cloth is all white but all the armor plates and helmet are black, with white LED lighting around the sides of the faceplate. SVER: The cloth is brown on the legs with a slightly lighter brown on the torso. The piping around the armor and down the sides of the legs is a bright orange. The strapping over shoulder and across the chest is white. The mask is brown with a glowing orange eye. Honestly it looks a little goofy, I think the orange is a little bright for my taste, but some people may like it. The suits are BPOs so they're unlimited and have the same stats as the Type-I variants. Oh also the Sever suit gets a x10 damage multiplier and built in MP3 player that plays Apocalyptica when you get a kill streak (Kidding of course) how awesome the sever suit would be... i hope the valor suit comes with smoke grenades
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.08.15 05:19:00 - [32] - Quote so long as it's low end gear it's fairly harmless. though i suppose a MORE harmless way to do it would have been to make them equal to the MILITIA tier suits instead of equal to the standard tier. those of us who bought them really bought them for nostalgia and looks, so we woulda bought them even if they were just reskinned militia suits. but we are also getting potential utility in the fact that it IS a bpo and it IS better than militia. then again, so is the dragonfly suit? and the toxin smg? and nobody lost their **** over that? so how bad is this REALLY?
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.15 05:20:00 - [33] - Quote Buzzwords wrote: so long as it's low end gear it's fairly harmless. though i suppose a MORE harmless way to do it would have been to make them equal to the MILITIA tier suits instead of equal to the standard tier. those of us who bought them really bought them for nostalgia and looks, so we woulda bought them even if they were just reskinned militia suits. but we are also getting potential utility in the fact that it IS a bpo and it IS better than militia. then again, so is the dragonfly suit? and the toxin smg? and nobody lost their **** over that? so how bad is this REALLY? very solid point here. Honestly i dont think its an issue. CCP is smarter than some of the people here are willing to admit...
Abner Kalen Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 100	Posted - 2012.08.15 05:38:00 - [34] - Quote I think one of the reasons the Dragonfly and other AU gear don't cause an uprising is because there are plenty of equivalent for ISK. I was using a few AU items a while back and while it gave me some small advantages, I just decided that I didn't want to keep wasting the AU. I kinda hope they offer skins for dropsuits and vehicles as BPO, that can be applied to a fitting so even proto gear can look the same. Corp uniforms FTW baby!!
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.08.15 06:51:00 - [35] - Quote Well the only advantage to the BPO's in question at the moment is that they are BPO's, but they are not over powered, or broken. They just happen to be BPO's, but the trade off is you ended up paying for them with real legal government certified tender. If you chose to do so then I suppose that is on "us", or those whom do. This however is not the whole picture. Which a few of has have brought up and pointed out -- myself included.


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