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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:17:00 -
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Well once upon a time I could fly a dropship expertly and so precisly it was like bread and butter.
Now I cant manage to keep the thing to stay upgright. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:18:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Well once upon a time I could fly a dropship expertly and so precisly it was like bread and butter.
Now I cant manage to keep the thing to stay upgright.
I envy you. I'm at work. I've got another 4.5 hours. Hope the servers are still up when I get home... |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:37:00 -
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but seriously its so easy to flip the dropship its not even funny anymore. |
Benjamin Hellios
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
259
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:41:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:but seriously its so easy to flip the dropship its not even funny anymore.
Wow wait...does this mean I can finally do backflips? Get in guys, we're going for a ride! |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:51:00 -
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None of my fits fit anymore |
Dragon Grace
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:06:00 -
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well they did say that they changed the physics model for the dropship. just learn to deal with it.....then once you have, let them know if its a good thing that its hard to do....or a bad thing. i personally think being able to role an aircraft is a good thing.
i mean....it would seem kinda dated if the aircraft didnt feel like a proper aircraft with pitch yaw and roll. |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:09:00 -
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I can't even fit my Eryx now. I have good skills but I can't fit anything decent on it
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Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:07:00 -
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Dropships are dead to me now. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:08:00 -
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This is what you get when you have CoD kiddies complaining on the server. |
Xerophobe Ellecon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:09:00 -
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hopefully this stops people using them as dive bombers. |
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Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:10:00 -
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Xerophobe Ellecon wrote:hopefully this stops people using them as dive bombers.
If anything it makes it easier to squish people. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:27:00 -
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I may have been the first to be squished this build. So it seems squishing was not nerfed |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:31:00 -
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I can't even land this stupid thing now, it isn't fun to fly, it 'rolls' and 'floats' all over the place. I could never drop anyone at an objective now, I'd lose half my shield, be taken out by anyone with a forge gun, can't provide a stable targeting platform for my gunners, will give you sea-sickness from crazy screen shakes just from LANDING and I'm not spending millions to replace it.
RIP Eryx, I loved you, but now you're a floaty metal coffin. |
Benjamin Hellios
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
259
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:52:00 -
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I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:53:00 -
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Guys guys guys found a way to deal with it
1 Order your dropship
2 Click R3
3 Pretend you are in a fighter jet.
4 ????
5 understand you cant profit anymore as dropships have no foward guns to strafe with this is better suited to be a vtol fighter controls not dropship controls. emo rage. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:55:00 -
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Benjamin Hellios wrote:I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing.
This is probably the difference - pilot suits should give bonuses to flying these. This is CCP logic in Eve, so why wouldn't they implement it here? |
Kaif Zel
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:58:00 -
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Benjamin Hellios wrote:I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing.
This seems like the most likely reason for the gong show that has become piloting. What gets me is why implement the skill-dependent physics separate from the pilot dropsuit? |
Garma QUDA
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
468
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:00:00 -
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Alright so OBVIOUSLY, we should ask for a pitch and yaw indicator on the UI hud when using the dropship , or if anything an actual cockpit and not the nose camera. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:06:00 -
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Kaif Zel wrote:Benjamin Hellios wrote:I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing. This seems like the most likely reason for the **** show that has become piloting. What gets me is why implement the ****** physics separate from the pilot dropsuit?
the dropship was a bit overpowered.. i was flying it with one hand practically, one of my gunners xveneryx went like 38/0 twice.. average was about 20/0.. the only thing that opposed us was multiple proto forge gunners.. swarm launchers were a joke. i actually felt sorry for the other team.
i'm anxious to see the changes and learn to fly the new one. if it can be mastered with practice and something to do with the pilot suit making it fly better it might be pretty cool, and give the dedicated pilots more pride in their role.
a pilot without pride or an attitude is just some guy |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:22:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Kaif Zel wrote:Benjamin Hellios wrote:I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing. This seems like the most likely reason for the **** show that has become piloting. What gets me is why implement the ****** physics separate from the pilot dropsuit? the dropship was a bit overpowered.. i was flying it with one hand practically, one of my gunners xveneryx went like 38/0 twice.. average was about 20/0.. the only thing that opposed us was multiple proto forge gunners.. swarm launchers were a joke. i actually felt sorry for the other team. i'm anxious to see the changes and learn to fly the new one. if it can be mastered with practice and something to do with the pilot suit making it fly better it might be pretty cool, and give the dedicated pilots more pride in their role. a pilot without pride or an attitude is just some guy
They fly like a fighter now you cannot perform dropship roles at all. |
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Kaif Zel
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:33:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Kaif Zel wrote:Benjamin Hellios wrote:I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing. This seems like the most likely reason for the **** show that has become piloting. What gets me is why implement the ****** physics separate from the pilot dropsuit? the dropship was a bit overpowered.. i was flying it with one hand practically, one of my gunners xveneryx went like 38/0 twice.. average was about 20/0.. the only thing that opposed us was multiple proto forge gunners.. swarm launchers were a joke. i actually felt sorry for the other team. i'm anxious to see the changes and learn to fly the new one. if it can be mastered with practice and something to do with the pilot suit making it fly better it might be pretty cool, and give the dedicated pilots more pride in their role. a pilot without pride or an attitude is just some guy
Yeah, I've yet to play the new build, and i like your closing statement. I loved flying in warhawk, in fact I'm one of the few people i know that played that game with six axis controls with pro flight mode on (barrel rolls had to executed manually, as opposed to just jamming the analog stick in one direction) so I'm going to stick with Dropship Piloting. I suck on the ground so discovering i was good at flying dropships was a wonderful thing and I'm not going to give up on it. |
Natu Nobilis
51
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:42:00 -
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At the Options part where you remap your controllers, there-¦s an option for dropships.
I-¦ll try the different loadouts to see iif any of them are the old controls.
I suck completely with this new dropships =(
At least the vertical speed is nice compared to the previous. |
Daxos Cavaletto
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
74
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:50:00 -
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I am bad at flying now. |
CookieStein
32
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:51:00 -
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The physics change is beyond a bit extreme UNLESS this is all balanced out by a pilot suit and additional skills. One touch and you're upside down...and good luck to touching down to picking someone up without losing half your shield, landing from one foot above ground does damage. |
howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
448
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:54:00 -
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Umallon Macross wrote:I can't even land this stupid thing now, it isn't fun to fly, it 'rolls' and 'floats' all over the place. I could never drop anyone at an objective now, I'd lose half my shield, be taken out by anyone with a forge gun, can't provide a stable targeting platform for my gunners, will give you sea-sickness from crazy screen shakes just from LANDING and I'm not spending millions to replace it.
RIP Eryx, I loved you, but now you're a floaty metal coffin.
Ah, the memories; how many Marine Corps CH-46 pilots have I heard say something similar |
howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
448
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:55:00 -
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CookieStein wrote:The physics change is beyond a bit extreme UNLESS this is all balanced out by a pilot suit and additional skills. One touch and you're upside down...and good luck to touching down to picking someone up without losing half your shield, landing from one foot above ground does damage.
Stealth fix to frontline grunts jackin your ride? |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.14 22:16:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:At the Options part where you remap your controllers, there-¦s an option for dropships.
I-¦ll try the different loadouts to see iif any of them are the old controls.
I suck completely with this new dropships =(
At least the vertical speed is nice compared to the previous.
woa,, what?? we can remap our controllers??! is this DS3 or just KBM????? |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
278
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Posted - 2012.08.14 22:21:00 -
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They fly like fighters? I might just have to get in mine again to try it out >:] |
CookieStein
32
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Posted - 2012.08.14 22:21:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Natu Nobilis wrote:At the Options part where you remap your controllers, there-¦s an option for dropships.
I-¦ll try the different loadouts to see iif any of them are the old controls.
I suck completely with this new dropships =(
At least the vertical speed is nice compared to the previous. woa,, what?? we can remap our controllers??! is this DS3 or just KBM????? Default or Southpaw is hardly remapping. That's all there is unless I missed something. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.14 22:25:00 -
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ahhh... bummer. so no remapping the KMB then? Idc, really I prefer DS3 anyhow. and from the sound of the KBM complaints we DS3 fans arent getting the shaft yet, kinda relieved, but was ready with my speedpad/game mouse if it came down to it.
+1 anyway |
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Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.08.14 22:26:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Benjamin Hellios wrote:I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing. This is probably the difference - pilot suits should give bonuses to flying these. This is CCP logic in Eve, so why wouldn't they implement it here?
I'd have though the Dropship skill would provide some of it. I know that low LAV skills mean the LAV skids and slides all over eh place. But pilot skill and suit makes sense. The suit is just not there. |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.14 22:32:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Benjamin Hellios wrote:I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing. This is probably the difference - pilot suits should give bonuses to flying these. This is CCP logic in Eve, so why wouldn't they implement it here? I'd have though the Dropship skill would provide some of it. I know that low LAV skills mean the LAV skids and slides all over eh place. But pilot skill and suit makes sense. The suit is just not there.
I have LAV IV and it doesnt seem to have any better traction.
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:10:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:At the Options part where you remap your controllers, there-¦s an option for dropships.
I-¦ll try the different loadouts to see iif any of them are the old controls.
I suck completely with this new dropships =(
At least the vertical speed is nice compared to the previous.
Thats reversed controllers, there is no option to go back to previous. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
278
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:12:00 -
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Just get Gud. Took me five myrons to finally figure out the trick to the darned thing. And, I have to say, it's KITTEN AMAZING |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:23:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Just get Gud. Took me five myrons to finally figure out the trick to the darned thing. And, I have to say, it's KITTEN AMAZING
Its taken all of 40 of my dropships so far. I cannot function as a dropship anymore, only as a fighter without guns or players. |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
326
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:27:00 -
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The flying mechanism is similar to BattleField 3. |
blqkt2011
RestlessSpirits
25
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:32:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Kaif Zel wrote:Benjamin Hellios wrote:I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing. This seems like the most likely reason for the **** show that has become piloting. What gets me is why implement the ****** physics separate from the pilot dropsuit? the dropship was a bit overpowered.. i was flying it with one hand practically, one of my gunners xveneryx went like 38/0 twice.. average was about 20/0.. the only thing that opposed us was multiple proto forge gunners.. swarm launchers were a joke. i actually felt sorry for the other team. i'm anxious to see the changes and learn to fly the new one. if it can be mastered with practice and something to do with the pilot suit making it fly better it might be pretty cool, and give the dedicated pilots more pride in their role. a pilot without pride or an attitude is just some guy Good F__king luck with your dropship practice - hope you have 38 million in isk in the bank to learn with, and lets not forget that you are also being shot at while your practicing. LMAO There goes your KDR and WP....... |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
278
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:34:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Just get Gud. Took me five myrons to finally figure out the trick to the darned thing. And, I have to say, it's KITTEN AMAZING Its taken all of 40 of my dropships so far. I cannot function as a dropship anymore, only as a fighter without guns or players. Get gunners, and fly the thing like a fighter. You can easily dodge swarms and forge guns now. Also, buffer tank to the hilt. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:36:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Just get Gud. Took me five myrons to finally figure out the trick to the darned thing. And, I have to say, it's KITTEN AMAZING Its taken all of 40 of my dropships so far. I cannot function as a dropship anymore, only as a fighter without guns or players. Get gunners, and fly the thing like a fighter. You can easily dodge swarms and forge guns now. Also, buffer tank to the hilt.
Uhm gunners bail and nobody wants to spawn despite being near stragetic places, they cant handle the high speed they get sick and its simply unsetteling for most occupants. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
278
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:38:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Just get Gud. Took me five myrons to finally figure out the trick to the darned thing. And, I have to say, it's KITTEN AMAZING Its taken all of 40 of my dropships so far. I cannot function as a dropship anymore, only as a fighter without guns or players. Get gunners, and fly the thing like a fighter. You can easily dodge swarms and forge guns now. Also, buffer tank to the hilt. Uhm gunners bail and nobody wants to spawn despite being near stragetic places, they cant handle the high speed they get sick and its simply unsetteling for most occupants. You will find gunners. If you can fly, they will come. |
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Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.15 02:27:00 -
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Just watching someone flying one of these things makes me feel seasick. They wobble all over the sky like drunk ducks. |
Legolas Winterbane
4
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Posted - 2012.08.15 02:34:00 -
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blqkt2011 wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Kaif Zel wrote:Benjamin Hellios wrote:I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing. This seems like the most likely reason for the **** show that has become piloting. What gets me is why implement the ****** physics separate from the pilot dropsuit? the dropship was a bit overpowered.. i was flying it with one hand practically, one of my gunners xveneryx went like 38/0 twice.. average was about 20/0.. the only thing that opposed us was multiple proto forge gunners.. swarm launchers were a joke. i actually felt sorry for the other team. i'm anxious to see the changes and learn to fly the new one. if it can be mastered with practice and something to do with the pilot suit making it fly better it might be pretty cool, and give the dedicated pilots more pride in their role. a pilot without pride or an attitude is just some guy Good F__king luck with your dropship practice - hope you have 38 million in isk in the bank to learn with, and lets not forget that you are also being shot at while your practicing. LMAO There goes your KDR and WP....... Who the hell gives a **** about KDR or ISK when this is all gonna be wiped anyways.... |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:11:00 -
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yea ship is pretty jacked up.. my ships tank is now worthless and died to a single swarm launch.,. but maybe they'll hook us up when they release the pilot suit.. oh well need to work on my gungame anyway.. i'm stoked anyway but not on my ship.. my brain was getting stagnant from that last build. |
Sees-Too-Much
332
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:12:00 -
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Legolas Winterbane wrote: Who the hell gives a **** about KDR or ISK when this is all gonna be wiped anyways....
This.
I am loving the new controls. Don't get me wrong, I'm completely sucking at them. Lost three Eryxes last match just effing around. Definitely missing having those free militia dropships to screw around with.
But I feel like I have a lot more capabilities now. I'm more able to avoid damage, move without losing altitude, etc. Once I figure out how to not suck with these new controls I'll be a better dropship pilot than I ever could have been with the old scheme. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:17:00 -
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blqkt2011 wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Kaif Zel wrote:Benjamin Hellios wrote:I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing. This seems like the most likely reason for the **** show that has become piloting. What gets me is why implement the ****** physics separate from the pilot dropsuit? the dropship was a bit overpowered.. i was flying it with one hand practically, one of my gunners xveneryx went like 38/0 twice.. average was about 20/0.. the only thing that opposed us was multiple proto forge gunners.. swarm launchers were a joke. i actually felt sorry for the other team. i'm anxious to see the changes and learn to fly the new one. if it can be mastered with practice and something to do with the pilot suit making it fly better it might be pretty cool, and give the dedicated pilots more pride in their role. a pilot without pride or an attitude is just some guy Good F__king luck with your dropship practice - hope you have 38 million in isk in the bank to learn with, and lets not forget that you are also being shot at while your practicing. LMAO There goes your KDR and WP.......
bro chill.. just because our ships raped u last build dont mean u need to rage about it now.. we have our place on the battlefield as so do you.. so stfu with your elitist crap.. you'll get raped again by our ships in due time when we figure this out.
btw i can afford about 900 dropships once i transfer my EVE pilots isk to my merc so your point about isk is moot when the actual game goes live.... so yea i have abit more than "38 million" in new eden |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:20:00 -
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Yeah I had to uninstall the small plate my dropship had and even with the plate off swarm launchers are still faster than my DS barreling at full speed. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:20:00 -
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Umallon Macross wrote:Just watching someone flying one of these things makes me feel seasick. They wobble all over the sky like drunk ducks.
This probably explains why I cant have a gunner for more than 2 seconds stay in. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:22:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:blqkt2011 wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Kaif Zel wrote:Benjamin Hellios wrote:I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing. This seems like the most likely reason for the **** show that has become piloting. What gets me is why implement the ****** physics separate from the pilot dropsuit? the dropship was a bit overpowered.. i was flying it with one hand practically, one of my gunners xveneryx went like 38/0 twice.. average was about 20/0.. the only thing that opposed us was multiple proto forge gunners.. swarm launchers were a joke. i actually felt sorry for the other team. i'm anxious to see the changes and learn to fly the new one. if it can be mastered with practice and something to do with the pilot suit making it fly better it might be pretty cool, and give the dedicated pilots more pride in their role. a pilot without pride or an attitude is just some guy Good F__king luck with your dropship practice - hope you have 38 million in isk in the bank to learn with, and lets not forget that you are also being shot at while your practicing. LMAO There goes your KDR and WP....... bro chill.. just because our ships raped u last build dont mean u need to rage about it now.. we have our place on the battlefield as so do you.. so stfu with your elitist crap.. you'll get raped again by our ships in due time when we figure this out. btw i can afford about 900 dropships once i transfer my EVE pilots isk to my merc so your point about isk is moot when the actual game goes live.... so yea i have abit more than "38 million" in new eden
lol that isnt even that much in comparison to some others....
no offense to the guy i quoted
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TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:23:00 -
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lol... 38 million.. i spend that on LOLs.. nickle dime motherfuker..
no offense taken lurch u kno wtf is up...
these other noobs tho think "38 million" is something big.. i'm not even bragging about being rich i aint sht but i got waaaaay more than 38 million lmao fuckn pigeon holed noob thinks 38 million is alot of isk |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:30:00 -
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lol, i wanna see the faces of the poor corporation of guys who get steamrolled by a blitzkrieging team of marauders, vtols, and dropships that keep coming back. Some of these EVE corporations make money faster than they can throw it at a Dust corp ingame.
Let it be known.....
When things get serious among political wars in the EVE universe, prohibitive costs in Dust are a non-issue. |
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TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:37:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:lol, i wanna see the faces of the poor corporation of guys who get steamrolled by a blitzkrieging team of marauders, vtols, and dropships that keep coming back. Some of these EVE corporations make money faster than they can throw it at a Dust corp ingame.
Let it be known.....
When things get serious among political wars in the EVE universe, prohibitive costs in Dust are a non-issue.
yea no sht goon and test are chomping at the bit to show these elitist how things get done in new eden
in eve you can win a battle but the war is won economically..
these noobs have yet to learn this and it's gonna cause some epic tears when it goes down.. |
Randrii
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:46:00 -
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I'm no dropship pilot, but i had a few vipers lying around. In my opinion the drop ship feels MUCH easier to fly. Maybe i haven't ****** around with it enough or something, but i like the no DS's. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:48:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:lol, i wanna see the faces of the poor corporation of guys who get steamrolled by a blitzkrieging team of marauders, vtols, and dropships that keep coming back. Some of these EVE corporations make money faster than they can throw it at a Dust corp ingame.
Let it be known.....
When things get serious among political wars in the EVE universe, prohibitive costs in Dust are a non-issue. yea no sht goon and test are chomping at the bit to show these elitist how things get done in new eden in eve you can win a battle but the war is won economically.. these noobs have yet to learn this and it's gonna cause some epic tears when it goes down..
some people think anything more complex than shooting is going to break the game, but the meta game is what gives a game longevity and keeps it relevant. If they don't want to get heavy into the player interactions, they don't have to.
It will become a significant part of the game tho, and that will not change. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:48:00 -
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Randrii wrote:I'm no dropship pilot, but i had a few vipers lying around. In my opinion the drop ship feels MUCH easier to fly. Maybe i haven't ****** around with it enough or something, but i like the no DS's.
yea i had a big smile on my face until hit with a swarm launcher and fell into a squad of 16 enemy infantry but at least i killed there medic before they waxed me lol |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:49:00 -
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I just dont like how I cant do my dropship job anymore...
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Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:52:00 -
[56] - Quote
learn 2 fly. Good drivers and pilots will become one hell of a commodity. No corp wants a player who loses more than he is worth. If you can get good, you will be highly desired. |
Randrii
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:52:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Randrii wrote:I'm no dropship pilot, but i had a few vipers lying around. In my opinion the drop ship feels MUCH easier to fly. Maybe i haven't ****** around with it enough or something, but i like the no DS's. yea i had a big smile on my face until hit with a swarm launcher and fell into a squad of 16 enemy infantry but at least i killed there medic before they waxed me lol I might consider speccing into DS's. After I get 1million SP to go from Caldaru LAV level 2 to level 4. Then Gallente LAV level 0 - 4. Then getting prototype Logibro. With 1/4 the xp rate we had before. Nevermind |
Randrii
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:54:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I just dont like how I cant do my dropship job anymore...
If you know anyone with a copy of BF3, try chopper flying on there. it feels somewhat similar. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:00:00 -
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Randrii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I just dont like how I cant do my dropship job anymore...
If you know anyone with a copy of BF3, try chopper flying on there. it feels somewhat similar.
I have nothing against the new physics i just need to learn how to retank my ship if it gets destroyed by one SL either i'm doing something wrong or IDK..
off topic but i finally stopped trolling and launched a game but i tried to restock a dropsuit, I got nothing but lag, then it kicked me to the captains quarters and i could still here a guy i was trying to sync with.. so i just restarted the PS3 and now i'm back to trolling |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:03:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:learn 2 fly. Good drivers and pilots will become one hell of a commodity. No corp wants a player who loses more than he is worth. If you can get good, you will be highly desired.
Give me a vtol fighter Ill keep the skies clean with these controls.
Its just I really cannot do my dropship job anymore with current controls. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:05:00 -
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Randrii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I just dont like how I cant do my dropship job anymore...
If you know anyone with a copy of BF3, try chopper flying on there. it feels somewhat similar.
I flew vtols in bf2142 and was very damned good at it, this here, just screams vtol fighter not the bf2142 dropship. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:12:00 -
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yea a dropship rolling doesnt make alot of sense the way it's shaped it's not a fixed wing aircraft it's a hover buss but we we'll have to wait and see what the pilot suit maybe will give us some stabiltiy stats... if the pilot suit makes it more stable then those jerk noobs who steal our aircraft will think twice about it, so maybe it's actually a fix to these noobs who jack our ships when were trying to repair them.. |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:17:00 -
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Um... They fly like helipoters now. I like it |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:35:00 -
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crazy space wrote:Um... They fly like helipoters now. I like it
Helicopters really dont fly like that. |
Garma QUDA
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:37:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:crazy space wrote:Um... They fly like helipoters now. I like it Helicopters really dont fly like that. http://www.rctoys.com/pr/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/180px-chinookch-47dd-101rnethafarp.jpg That one does :D |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:45:00 -
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At least you can do a barrel roll. ;)
It feels REALLY sluggish for being a heavy vehicle in the sky with only thrusters holding it up. Very hot air baloon feeling, as others have said.
I like the new abilities of control, it just seems gravity and rotational controls are underpowered. I'm ok with inertia, but a rotational (left-right) spin needs to be improved.
Still playing with it, trying to figure out what feels wrong.
I like that it's more challenging though, while offering more control-- hopefully some agility tweaks will help it be more nimble, not just a hard to fly boat in the sky. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:48:00 -
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Rhadiem wrote:At least you can do a barrel roll. ;)
It feels REALLY sluggish for being a heavy vehicle in the sky with only thrusters holding it up. Very hot air baloon feeling, as others have said.
I like the new abilities of control, it just seems gravity and rotational controls are underpowered. I'm ok with inertia, but a rotational (left-right) spin needs to be improved.
Still playing with it, trying to figure out what feels wrong.
I like that it's more challenging though, while offering more control-- hopefully some agility tweaks will help it be more nimble, not just a hard to fly boat in the sky.
Ill tell you what is wrong with it, its unable to strafe left or right or fly backwards.
Helicopters should be able to do that these, 'vtol fighters' we have can only fly straight and cant even peform a simple z axis manuver. ALl you have to do is lighten up on the tail rotors or increas it to counter the spin and whallah change z axis. BUT nooohooo only option to fly left or right is to rotate the entire craft and pull up like a jet does. |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:49:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Umallon Macross wrote:Just watching someone flying one of these things makes me feel seasick. They wobble all over the sky like drunk ducks. This probably explains why I cant have a gunner for more than 2 seconds stay in.
lol I had some guy want to get in, so he hopped in, and I went to drop him off at a cap point, and was trying to land with my old muscle-memory skills and was wobbling all over hte place, but did some acrobatics to not run into the mountain, and looked down, impressed I saved it, to find my gunner LONG gone. |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:50:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Rhadiem wrote:At least you can do a barrel roll. ;)
It feels REALLY sluggish for being a heavy vehicle in the sky with only thrusters holding it up. Very hot air baloon feeling, as others have said.
I like the new abilities of control, it just seems gravity and rotational controls are underpowered. I'm ok with inertia, but a rotational (left-right) spin needs to be improved.
Still playing with it, trying to figure out what feels wrong.
I like that it's more challenging though, while offering more control-- hopefully some agility tweaks will help it be more nimble, not just a hard to fly boat in the sky. Ill tell you what is wrong with it, its unable to strafe left or right or fly backwards. Helicopters should be able to do that these, 'vtol fighters' we have can only fly straight and cant even peform a simple z axis manuver.
tilt backwards and hit up, it'll go backwards that way. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:52:00 -
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Rhadiem wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Rhadiem wrote:At least you can do a barrel roll. ;)
It feels REALLY sluggish for being a heavy vehicle in the sky with only thrusters holding it up. Very hot air baloon feeling, as others have said.
I like the new abilities of control, it just seems gravity and rotational controls are underpowered. I'm ok with inertia, but a rotational (left-right) spin needs to be improved.
Still playing with it, trying to figure out what feels wrong.
I like that it's more challenging though, while offering more control-- hopefully some agility tweaks will help it be more nimble, not just a hard to fly boat in the sky. Ill tell you what is wrong with it, its unable to strafe left or right or fly backwards. Helicopters should be able to do that these, 'vtol fighters' we have can only fly straight and cant even peform a simple z axis manuver. tilt backwards and hit up, it'll go backwards that way.
tried that lost all lift and tail dived into the ground. |
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Garma QUDA
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
468
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:55:00 -
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We cant be friends if you cant do barrel roll. K? |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:56:00 -
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Garma QUDA wrote:We cant be friends if you cant do barrel roll. K?
barrel roll is easy. living afterwards is optional.
(fwiw, I've never successsfully completed one) |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:58:00 -
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I get about halfway though the barrel roll before I lose control of the craft completly and it goes unresponsive. Tried for a loop but soon as I get anywhere near the 90* point I lose all lift and tail dive out of the sky.
It sucks flying X and Y axis only to be serious about this. there is no Z axis anymore and I'd kill for a z axis. |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:58:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
tried that lost all lift and tail dived into the ground.
yeah it's not easy |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:59:00 -
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if I could get in a game I'd try more things.. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.15 07:02:00 -
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Rhadiem wrote:if I could get in a game I'd try more things..
Like providing airground support cover for a capture point?
Or repairing an HAV? |
blqkt2011
RestlessSpirits
25
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Posted - 2012.08.15 07:17:00 -
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Legolas Winterbane wrote:blqkt2011 wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Kaif Zel wrote:Benjamin Hellios wrote:I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing. This seems like the most likely reason for the **** show that has become piloting. What gets me is why implement the ****** physics separate from the pilot dropsuit? the dropship was a bit overpowered.. i was flying it with one hand practically, one of my gunners xveneryx went like 38/0 twice.. average was about 20/0.. the only thing that opposed us was multiple proto forge gunners.. swarm launchers were a joke. i actually felt sorry for the other team. i'm anxious to see the changes and learn to fly the new one. if it can be mastered with practice and something to do with the pilot suit making it fly better it might be pretty cool, and give the dedicated pilots more pride in their role. a pilot without pride or an attitude is just some guy Good F__king luck with your dropship practice - hope you have 38 million in isk in the bank to learn with, and lets not forget that you are also being shot at while your practicing. LMAO There goes your KDR and WP....... Who the hell gives a **** about KDR or ISK when this is all gonna be wiped anyways.... Because if you don't learn how to fly before the wipe, your screwed. as much as it costs for a dropship ?? after the wipe you will never have enough isk to learn. oh yeah - and most of it was sarcasm about relearning to fly. |
blqkt2011
RestlessSpirits
25
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Posted - 2012.08.15 07:31:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:blqkt2011 wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Kaif Zel wrote:Benjamin Hellios wrote:I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing. This seems like the most likely reason for the **** show that has become piloting. What gets me is why implement the ****** physics separate from the pilot dropsuit? the dropship was a bit overpowered.. i was flying it with one hand practically, one of my gunners xveneryx went like 38/0 twice.. average was about 20/0.. the only thing that opposed us was multiple proto forge gunners.. swarm launchers were a joke. i actually felt sorry for the other team. i'm anxious to see the changes and learn to fly the new one. if it can be mastered with practice and something to do with the pilot suit making it fly better it might be pretty cool, and give the dedicated pilots more pride in their role. a pilot without pride or an attitude is just some guy Good F__king luck with your dropship practice - hope you have 38 million in isk in the bank to learn with, and lets not forget that you are also being shot at while your practicing. LMAO There goes your KDR and WP....... bro chill.. just because our ships raped u last build dont mean u need to rage about it now.. we have our place on the battlefield as so do you.. so stfu with your elitist crap.. you'll get raped again by our ships in due time when we figure this out. btw i can afford about 900 dropships once i transfer my EVE pilots isk to my merc so your point about isk is moot when the actual game goes live.... so yea i have abit more than "38 million" in new eden LMAO Tebow - who raped who last build ?? You squealed like a stuck pig. And who cares about what you'll do with your eve money. Learn to FPS first bro. Money won't stop you from being killed on the battlefield bro. And my sarcasm was towards CCP and not you originally, but know I see that I should have included you. |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.08.15 07:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Rhadiem wrote:if I could get in a game I'd try more things.. Like providing airground support cover for a capture point? Or repairing an HAV?
naw, like trying to get the sense of why this passed CCP approval.
I need to get in more games with the super cheap dropship fit I made and just crash a dozen or two trying to map it to my brain.
finally got in one game which was a huge snipe fest (cool map tho) and pulled out a cheap dropship but someone wanted to gun so we went down in a blaze of glory when the first swarm laucher hit ;)
I like that I can rotate left-right while hovering, but I'm trying to get over it's huge sluggishness.
I got caught on a side of a mountain and couldn't get off for 20-30 seconds, as it had rolled and up wasn't' working.. I finally hit down to roll it down (upright) to be able to go up again. so weird.
update: I'm starting to get the hang of it, it just drives like a boat. |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
191
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Posted - 2012.08.15 08:18:00 -
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I like the new dropship phisics, it feels like an helicopter. I also like that not everyone will be able tu fly the dropship, only skilled people will use them. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.15 08:29:00 -
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Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:I like the new dropship phisics, it feels like an helicopter. I also like that not everyone will be able tu fly the dropship, only skilled people will use them.
Helicopters have tailrotors, and thier strongest axis is Z, not Y or X axis. It flies like a fighter jet. |
blqkt2011
RestlessSpirits
25
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Posted - 2012.08.15 08:49:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Rhadiem wrote:- New dropship physics model
I'd love to hear more about this.. is it more agile? You have nooo idea... Now I do and I see that it's broken - is the dropship meant to be flown with a keyboard and mouse ?? cause it's damn near impossible with a controller which has a joy stick. Unintentional barrel rolls come to mind - when we try to fly. |
The Robot Devil
45
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Posted - 2012.08.15 08:54:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Randrii wrote:I'm no dropship pilot, but i had a few vipers lying around. In my opinion the drop ship feels MUCH easier to fly. Maybe i haven't ****** around with it enough or something, but i like the no DS's. yea i had a big smile on my face until hit with a swarm launcher and fell into a squad of 16 enemy infantry but at least i killed there medic before they waxed me lol
I was up for about 5 minutes in my first DS and my gunner got some mercs but then we were shot down behind enemy lines and got tagged teamed by about 6 mercs. IT WAS GREAT. |
Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
304
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Posted - 2012.08.15 09:48:00 -
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just tried my first post-patch flight in a Gorgon (gallente militia dropship). it wasn't too terrible to keep up, but it felt like it was trying to fly in heavy syrup.
Imminent edit, just as soon as i try out the Caldari militia (Viper). |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:44:00 -
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Rhadiem wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Rhadiem wrote:if I could get in a game I'd try more things.. Like providing airground support cover for a capture point? Or repairing an HAV? naw, like trying to get the sense of why this passed CCP approval. I need to get in more games with the super cheap dropship fit I made and just crash a dozen or two trying to map it to my brain. finally got in one game which was a huge snipe fest (cool map tho) and pulled out a cheap dropship but someone wanted to gun so we went down in a blaze of glory when the first swarm laucher hit ;) I like that I can rotate left-right while hovering, but I'm trying to get over it's huge sluggishness. I got caught on a side of a mountain and couldn't get off for 20-30 seconds, as it had rolled and up wasn't' working.. I finally hit down to roll it down (upright) to be able to go up again. so weird. update: I'm starting to get the hang of it, it just drives like a boat.
Not only passed CCP approval, but dev was going on about how AGILE it is now in the patch thread.
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