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Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.14 18:17:00 - [1] - Quote Well once upon a time I could fly a dropship expertly and so precisly it was like bread and butter. Now I cant manage to keep the thing to stay upgright.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.14 18:37:00 - [2] - Quote but seriously its so easy to flip the dropship its not even funny anymore.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.14 20:53:00 - [3] - Quote Guys guys guys found a way to deal with it 1 Order your dropship 2 Click R3 3 Pretend you are in a fighter jet. 4 ???? 5 understand you cant profit anymore as dropships have no foward guns to strafe with this is better suited to be a vtol fighter controls not dropship controls. emo rage.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.14 21:22:00 - [4] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: Kaif Zel wrote: Benjamin Hellios wrote: I'm assuming they'll be implementing pilot suits and pilot skills any day now. They'll require some real dedication, which is a good thing. This seems like the most likely reason for the ** show that has become piloting. What gets me is why implement the **** physics separate from the pilot dropsuit? the dropship was a bit overpowered.. i was flying it with one hand practically, one of my gunners xveneryx went like 38/0 twice.. average was about 20/0.. the only thing that opposed us was multiple proto forge gunners.. swarm launchers were a joke. i actually felt sorry for the other team. i'm anxious to see the changes and learn to fly the new one. if it can be mastered with practice and something to do with the pilot suit making it fly better it might be pretty cool, and give the dedicated pilots more pride in their role. a pilot without pride or an attitude is just some guy They fly like a fighter now you cannot perform dropship roles at all.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 00:10:00 - [5] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: At the Options part where you remap your controllers, there-¦s an option for dropships. I-¦ll try the different loadouts to see iif any of them are the old controls. I suck completely with this new dropships =( At least the vertical speed is nice compared to the previous. Thats reversed controllers, there is no option to go back to previous.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 00:23:00 - [6] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Just get Gud. Took me five myrons to finally figure out the trick to the darned thing. And, I have to say, it's KITTEN AMAZING Its taken all of 40 of my dropships so far. I cannot function as a dropship anymore, only as a fighter without guns or players.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 00:36:00 - [7] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Just get Gud. Took me five myrons to finally figure out the trick to the darned thing. And, I have to say, it's KITTEN AMAZING Its taken all of 40 of my dropships so far. I cannot function as a dropship anymore, only as a fighter without guns or players. Get gunners, and fly the thing like a fighter. You can easily dodge swarms and forge guns now. Also, buffer tank to the hilt. Uhm gunners bail and nobody wants to spawn despite being near stragetic places, they cant handle the high speed they get sick and its simply unsetteling for most occupants.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 04:20:00 - [8] - Quote Yeah I had to uninstall the small plate my dropship had and even with the plate off swarm launchers are still faster than my DS barreling at full speed.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 04:20:00 - [9] - Quote Umallon Macross wrote: Just watching someone flying one of these things makes me feel seasick. They wobble all over the sky like drunk ducks. This probably explains why I cant have a gunner for more than 2 seconds stay in.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 04:49:00 - [10] - Quote I just dont like how I cant do my dropship job anymore...

Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 05:03:00 - [11] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: learn 2 fly. Good drivers and pilots will become one hell of a commodity. No corp wants a player who loses more than he is worth. If you can get good, you will be highly desired. Give me a vtol fighter Ill keep the skies clean with these controls. Its just I really cannot do my dropship job anymore with current controls.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 05:05:00 - [12] - Quote Randrii wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I just dont like how I cant do my dropship job anymore... If you know anyone with a copy of BF3, try chopper flying on there. it feels somewhat similar. I flew vtols in bf2142 and was very damned good at it, this here, just screams vtol fighter not the bf2142 dropship.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 06:35:00 - [13] - Quote crazy space wrote: Um... They fly like helipoters now. I like it Helicopters really dont fly like that.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 06:48:00 - [14] - Quote Rhadiem wrote: At least you can do a barrel roll. ;) It feels REALLY sluggish for being a heavy vehicle in the sky with only thrusters holding it up. Very hot air baloon feeling, as others have said. I like the new abilities of control, it just seems gravity and rotational controls are underpowered. I'm ok with inertia, but a rotational (left-right) spin needs to be improved. Still playing with it, trying to figure out what feels wrong. I like that it's more challenging though, while offering more control-- hopefully some agility tweaks will help it be more nimble, not just a hard to fly boat in the sky. Ill tell you what is wrong with it, its unable to strafe left or right or fly backwards. Helicopters should be able to do that these, 'vtol fighters' we have can only fly straight and cant even peform a simple z axis manuver. ALl you have to do is lighten up on the tail rotors or increas it to counter the spin and whallah change z axis. BUT nooohooo only option to fly left or right is to rotate the entire craft and pull up like a jet does.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 06:52:00 - [15] - Quote Rhadiem wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rhadiem wrote: At least you can do a barrel roll. ;) It feels REALLY sluggish for being a heavy vehicle in the sky with only thrusters holding it up. Very hot air baloon feeling, as others have said. I like the new abilities of control, it just seems gravity and rotational controls are underpowered. I'm ok with inertia, but a rotational (left-right) spin needs to be improved. Still playing with it, trying to figure out what feels wrong. I like that it's more challenging though, while offering more control-- hopefully some agility tweaks will help it be more nimble, not just a hard to fly boat in the sky. Ill tell you what is wrong with it, its unable to strafe left or right or fly backwards. Helicopters should be able to do that these, 'vtol fighters' we have can only fly straight and cant even peform a simple z axis manuver. tilt backwards and hit up, it'll go backwards that way. tried that lost all lift and tail dived into the ground.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 06:58:00 - [16] - Quote I get about halfway though the barrel roll before I lose control of the craft completly and it goes unresponsive. Tried for a loop but soon as I get anywhere near the 90* point I lose all lift and tail dive out of the sky. It sucks flying X and Y axis only to be serious about this. there is no Z axis anymore and I'd kill for a z axis.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 07:02:00 - [17] - Quote Rhadiem wrote: if I could get in a game I'd try more things.. Like providing airground support cover for a capture point? Or repairing an HAV?
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.15 08:29:00 - [18] - Quote Martin0 Brancaleone wrote: I like the new dropship phisics, it feels like an helicopter. I also like that not everyone will be able tu fly the dropship, only skilled people will use them. Helicopters have tailrotors, and thier strongest axis is Z, not Y or X axis. It flies like a fighter jet.