I was kinda harping on this awhile back. I want either an equipment slot, or a third low slot

Im guessing its by design so that there are utility holes on dropsuits that have to be filled by team-mates. Its all about the teamwork buddy .

What you should be suggesting is that swarm launcher are reclassified as a "heavy" weapon perhaps.

A L arm slot would be interesting but I don't know how feasible it would be with the CPU/PG of the proto suits... I would love equipment to carry a nanohive around, but then you wouldn't need logistics, but I feel an extra low slot could add a few advantages... like running 3 complex dmg mods, a complex rapper and maybe even complex plates

Edit: along with a CPU module of course

Im guessing its by design so that there are utility holes on dropsuits that have to be filled by team-mates. Its all about the teamwork buddy .

What you should be suggesting is that swarm launcher are reclassified as a "heavy" weapon perhaps.

right now we are the only class that actually needs logistics and personally i find it to be unfair

It is the way it is for the sake of balance. i'm sure heavies would love an equipment slot with an infinite armour rep, but the rest of us don't really want that. ccp has balanced the suits, vehicles, weapons and mods to try and keep the game fun for all. i'm sure they'll continue to balance based on feedback, but 'mega kill everything heavies' ain't happening.

that would be a little OP imo.

imagine a proto heavy with the repair nano hives, he could kite you like a scout if he does it right.

i do think heavies should have a 3rd low slot than the 3rd high slot (low=armor high=shields/weps)

maybe if they had a module to add an equipment slot that could be good.

If the other suits (not including logi) couldn't carry equipment as well i wouldn't have this problem but since it doesn't work like that I do

we have 1000 more HP than any other class..

yes were a little slower but there needs to me more of a trade off, which comes in as no equip slot/less mods

meh idk, you can just turn your sensitivity up.

im gonna assume that they will have different types of heavy suits, maybe a tactical one with less HP and an equip slot?

im sure theyll do something like that

Hopefully grouping will ease this a bit, just have to find a few friends who want to mix up some logi with their AR so you can have one on the team with you.
I did run the heavy for a short while after I got bored with tanks, but decided to go assault swarm after I realised it had the benefit of the nanohive.
I like the idea of putting an option on the proto level suit, so you could have a nano or an extra low, just for a build of testing to see how it affects things, but the only problem being so much other new stuff is launched each new build that changes balance already for 1 it could be hard to work out how much difference it's made overall and second there's a lot more alternative modules, weapons, equipment still to come that they may have already balance the heavy fittings against, but we just haven't seen them yet.

Here's an alternative idea ... you could be given a 'heavy equipment' slot ! This could open up a whole new set of options, perhaps a mobile gun replacement or mortar or a single personal supply depot, which you might only have one of, but it could be more substantial withstanding several splash blasts from tanks where the nano doesn't stand up to much, and you'd be limited to carrying one because it would be a big piece of kit, too big for an assault to carry.

Just thinking on my feet, what you reckon ?

heavies with nano hives promote camps. Camps with tents.

Give my assault suit a forgegun. And give scouts HMG's. See why you don't have one?

We're also larger targets which means we can't hide good with hmgs or forge guns

youre not supposed to hide as a heavy, your supposed to bowling ball though the enemy with your tons of hp.

no time to throw down some equipment there.

i think youre just asking too much from just one suit.

heavies with nano hives promote camps. Camps with tents.

well that'll be a reality this next build with grouping. Heavy: "Hey logi buddy, why don't you come here and drop me a nanohive so i can stay on this tower/building and rain death with my forge gun upon all the peasants" Logi: "Sure thing champ"

They need to realize what their scout or assault would be like without a nanohive

not sure if youre trolling at this point...

imagine your heavy with 1k less health....

if you want an equipment slot so bad use a different dropsuit.....

Just ask someone to give you one. I will gladly set up a shop for you to rake in those +10s.

If you want to lone wolf, grab a Scout or Assault suit. Logistics and Heavy just can't do it.

Terrible idea in my little opinion. Players are right, you give me a forge and a hive I will never leave home. I play heavies and I think they are well balanced. SW being a heavy weapon is not a bad idea...but they are garbage so maybe not. Miss half the time and can take multiple tries to lock on. SMG are great weapons so they are not naked by any means.

Im a proto forge gunner, and i will say that giving a Heavy suit more utility is a bad idea. there needs to be a trade off for specialization so that rolls can be defined keep in mind it will take 7 years to learn every skill in the game so your going to have to pick one job and stick with it. if any thing there should be suit specific modules or at least really high fitting cost modules mitigated by role bonus to improve on each suits specialty.

as it stands

type-damage-armor-strongest characteristic

Logi- High damage- Medium armor- slow- healing/ utility
Scout- High damage- low armor- fastest- mobility
Asault- High damage- low armor- medium- balanced combatant
Heavy- High damage- High armor- slowest- Stay and Fire power

Extra equipment? Never going to happen.

Give a heavy Remote Explosives and I might just stop playing this.

How is it different than everyone else having them?

Maybe the fact that a heavy's large Armor HP will allow the guy to keep throwing RE in CQC encounters. I shoot scouts and logistics to death as soon as I see them.

we have 1000 more HP than any other class..

yes were a little slower but there needs to me more of a trade off, which comes in as no equip slot/less mods

Every other suit can have infinite ammo and if all shots hit the swarm launcher does more damage than an equal rank forge gun so it wouldn't unbalance the av aspect and it wouldn't make us killing machines because the hmg is little more than a glorified smg

First off this is a terrible terrible idea, a forge gunner could just find a really good camping spot and then just obliterate anything that crosses his line of sight. Secondly there needs so be a trade off for all that armor considering that they can use an AR and just sit there and take all the damage without having to utilize FPS techniques that require a lot of skill to master i.e strafing and aiming simultaneously, they should have to rely on teammates for support.

BTW the heavy weapon capacity skills will increase your ammo by 40%.



Actually it depends on what they hit, A swarm launcher does more damage on paper but it varies based on the target. The forge gun does more damage to shield vehicles and less to armor vehicles, and it is the opposite for the swarm launcher. So against a Surya use swarms against a Sagaris use the forge gun.

The HMG leveled up is very deadly, The prototype HMG with weaponry 5 (15% damage increase) and HMG Operation 5 (25% damage increase, necessary for Proto-HMG) will do 672 DPS with 2 complex damage mods 762 DPS. My prototype assault suit with 3 complex shield extenders, mechanic 5, and shield management 5 have 683 HP. Also don't complain about the heat build up because the HMG proficiency reduces by 15% and Heavy weapon sharpshooter skills will increase the effective range by 40%.
So quit your complaining and level up the proper skills.

First off this is a terrible terrible idea, a forge gunner could just find a really good camping spot and then just obliterate anything that crosses his line of sight. Secondly there needs so be a trade off for all that armor considering that they can use an AR and just sit there and take all the damage without having to utilize FPS techniques that require a lot of skill to master i.e strafing and aiming simultaneously, they should have to rely on teammates for support.

BTW the heavy weapon capacity skills will increase your ammo by 40%.



Actually it depends on what they hit, A swarm launcher does more damage on paper but it varies based on the target. The forge gun does more damage to shield vehicles and less to armor vehicles, and it is the opposite for the swarm launcher. So against a Surya use swarms against a Sagaris use the forge gun.

The HMG leveled up is very deadly, The prototype HMG with weaponry 5 (15% damage increase) and HMG Operation 5 (25% damage increase, necessary for Proto-HMG) will do 672 DPS with 2 complex damage mods 762 DPS. My prototype assault suit with 3 complex shield extenders, mechanic 5, and shield management 5 have 683 HP. Also don't complain about the heat build up because the HMG proficiency reduces by 15% and Heavy weapon sharpshooter skills will increase the effective range by 40%.
So quit your complaining and level up the proper skills.

every suit except heavy has a equipment slot, only the heavy has a heavy weapon.

A variant with two light weapons instead of one heavy and one sidearm would be interesting, maybe let that one have a equipment slot.

The nanohive is being nerfed, nobody gets infinite ammo. Except vehicles, seems fine except for infinite tower rocket spam.

you don't get it do you?
i explained to you before in other heavy thread that our high DPS is worthless when half our bullets scatter every where because we hip fire unlike the AR where you point and shot.
Stop with maxing heavy skills excuse its getting old
we (at least me) did maxed it out but still doesn't work as intended, heavy was over-nerfed because of QQers like you in the last build but guess what?! CCP fixed it a bit for the next build ofc we'll test it again and if the heavy still needed more tweaking we will keep posting till it get fixed

Just because i need an equipment slot doesn't mean i will always use the nanohive. Whenever i get ferried to an objective i would like to be able to repair them but i can't. People can already camp with a swarm launcher so it's not a big difference.
The hmg fully leveled has a high dps but it is offset by having the a range slightly higher than the smg's, a period where it has one of the worst accuracu

We don't always need nanohives, occasionally I get into positions I could repair something but i lack a repair tool

Actually I used the HMG last build, and read the patch notes
- Increased the optimal range for the HMG
- Reduced overheating speed for the HMG



The prototype HMGs accuracy rating is 72.6 while the Creodron Breach AR is only 58.3 (for context Creodron shotgun is 26.3).



Then use a class capable of repairing.

The stated accuracy isn't always right. The stats say the tactical is less accurate than the breach but back to the point everyone else can use a repair tool without being logi so why no us?

Because thats the heavy trade off.

Because thats the heavy trade off.

So we're slower, a larger target, and can't carry equipment and thats fair for having more armor and carrying heavy weapons?

So we're slower, a larger target, and can't carry equipment and thats fair for having more armor and carrying heavy weapons?

You forgot to mention way more defense.

The post above with the logi fit would have 1094 HP, and yes I use the forge to take out vehicles and I don't see an issue with their balance, sure equipment would be nice but you have to think of game balance.

Wouldn't only letting logi carry equipment be more balanced than everyone except the heavy?

Wouldn't only letting logi carry equipment be more balanced than everyone except the heavy?

As a primary heavy I say lets not have a equipment slot but add a low slot plus cpu/pg.

As a primary heavy I say lets not have a equipment slot but add a low slot plus cpu/pg.

Let me put this in terms of balance.

The Logi suit is the second slowest class in the game, despite having low armor, due to the fact it has the most equipment.
The Heavy is THE slowest class due to the fact it has the most armor.
Basically, you would be going EVEN SLOWER if you were to have equipment on your heavy suit.

Every other suit gets an equipment slot

The other classes get one even though they aren't logi so why shouldn't we

but seriously, suits specialize in Dust, just like in any other possible situation i can think of. Do jet pilots complain because they dont get a rocket launcher or a tank driver complain because he doesnt get to carry a sniper rifle?

different battlefield roles are there for the purpose of fulfilling that role. So do it.

What about a light weapon slot instead of the sidearm slot

Actually, I'm kind of confused about that one myself. When they originally showed off the Heavy suit, It had 1 Heavy, 1 Light, and one Sidearm slot at the cost of not being able to carry equipment.

We are the only class that can't carry equipment, why? People can carry infinite swarm launcher ammo so I don't see a good reason not to give heavies equipment slots. Anyone else agree?

I dont get a sidearm

I find it to be bs as well

ive once said I would like to move my slots around but people said it would break the game

We are the only class that can't carry equipment, why? People can carry infinite swarm launcher ammo so I don't see a good reason not to give heavies equipment slots. Anyone else agree?

You get heavy weapons
We get equipment.

Life is not fair.

Neither is the battlefield.

Seriously has no one else read OP's as if he was a little child?

I don't mean any disrespect, you just need to adapt and bug people on your team for ammo.

I always drop nanos EVERYWHERE I GO, especially if lots of little blue arrows are around me.

heaves will never have equipment slots there already over powered. what u guys want to make it ware people only use heavy drop suits or what all drop suits have there faults get over it

Op? We are the slowest, the largest target, have the slowest turn speed and to top it off carry no equipment

Ahem.....

If you think heavies are underpowered, your doing it wrong.

We are the only class that can't carry equipment, why? People can carry infinite swarm launcher ammo so I don't see a good reason not to give heavies equipment slots. Anyone else agree?

Equipment slot would make my heavy sniper way overpowered.

As a heavy user I'd say it's balanced as is, stop whining for OP cause when CCP finds something in EVE that is over-used due to being too strong they smash it to pieces with the nerf hammer.

So if you love the heavy then make sure it stays balanced.

cool ,yeah give heavy's equipment slot, then to balance give other suits 400hp boost and a heavy slot, sounds like a great idea,
them we all can run around in the same suits.