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Richard Blackburn
Blackburn Odyssey
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:14:00 -
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I do think we should have killstreak rewards,but not any bullshit like some OP weapon or vehicle. I think that you should get like a CONTRACT COMPLETED 3 kill streak and are rewards like 5ksp and a few WP if the killstreak is higher or maybe you get like a triple or quad kill. Maybe killing someone in the air will get you a CONTRACT COMPLETED. Things like this seem fair and not OP,plus they are rewarding for doing good. It would help when you resupply your teammates. CONTRACT COMPLETED-Helping Hand 10k SP 2k WP |
Ion Crush
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
32
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:16:00 -
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I kinda like that, call it "Combat Efficiency" or something like that. and Get a bonus on your contract. |
Maken Tosch
263
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:19:00 -
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Frankly, I don't want it. If we add those kill streaks, then the hardcore COD players will complain about how Dust 514 is just a copy-paste version of COD. |
Richard Blackburn
Blackburn Odyssey
55
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:20:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Frankly, I don't want it. If we add those kill streaks, then the hardcore COD players will complain about how Dust 514 is just a copy-paste version of COD. the thing is they aren't killstreaks they just reward you for being good at combat and helping your team,and **** COD fanboys COD copied medal of honor |
Mr Vito
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:23:00 -
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Your reward for being good at killing people is the ISK, SP, and WP you get from killing them. Whenthe game goes live, talk to your Corps CEO or CFO and see if he/she wants to give you rewards for getting a ton of kills in a match, if they do, kudos for you, but I don't think it should be a built in game mechanic. |
Richard Blackburn
Blackburn Odyssey
55
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:24:00 -
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Mr Vito wrote:Your reward for being good at killing people is the ISK, SP, and WP you get from killing them. Whenthe game goes live, talk to your Corps CEO or CFO and see if he/she wants to give you rewards for getting a ton of kills in a match, if they do, kudos for you, but I don't think it should be a built in game mechanic. there are no 'shes' in dust ;) |
Maken Tosch
263
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:30:00 -
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Richard Blackburn wrote:Mr Vito wrote:Your reward for being good at killing people is the ISK, SP, and WP you get from killing them. Whenthe game goes live, talk to your Corps CEO or CFO and see if he/she wants to give you rewards for getting a ton of kills in a match, if they do, kudos for you, but I don't think it should be a built in game mechanic. there are no 'shes' in dust ;)
Once the market goes live with Eve Online, perhaps you should order a bunch of Exotic Dancers to please you. |
Ion Crush
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
32
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:30:00 -
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Mr Vito wrote:Your reward for being good at killing people is the ISK, SP, and WP you get from killing them. Whenthe game goes live, talk to your Corps CEO or CFO and see if he/she wants to give you rewards for getting a ton of kills in a match, if they do, kudos for you, but I don't think it should be a built in game mechanic.
Maybe it would be a good feature to be built in for corps to use. Your corp CEO can set requirements and bonus amount for certain things.
Killstreaks # of hacks # of vehicle kills # of tea bags ect.
*This thread should probably be in feedback/requests |
Richard Blackburn
Blackburn Odyssey
55
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:31:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Richard Blackburn wrote:Mr Vito wrote:Your reward for being good at killing people is the ISK, SP, and WP you get from killing them. Whenthe game goes live, talk to your Corps CEO or CFO and see if he/she wants to give you rewards for getting a ton of kills in a match, if they do, kudos for you, but I don't think it should be a built in game mechanic. there are no 'shes' in dust ;) Once the market goes live with Eve Online, perhaps you should order a bunch of Exotic Dancers to please you. depends how "exotic" they are...i like asians not aliens |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:31:00 -
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AHEM,
Warpoint system is what you are looking for.
Unfourunately with the warpoint system there is a major stark difference. Other players are the kill streak or you built that kill streak or your command officer is a tightwad and denies your request on the grounds of 'its a waste of isk.'
So what possible killstreaks are we talking about?
Active scan sweeps - Pings everything caught on the map, its possible to defeate this scan though and remain hidden with certain equipment.
Building Deployment, Thoughout the battle the commander sitting in the Defense HQ or the MCC can call down a building of any type where needed such as a turret or CRU or supply depot.
Off district Strike - With proper cordinates set and chain of command approval the commander can call in a strike from another district such as airstrikes or offsight artillery.
Vehicle Calldowns - Commander has the ability to approve or deny vehicle requests, espeically if they're not your vehicles.
Orbital Strike - With enough warpoints you can transmit the access codes to a waiting palyer in obrit and get a strike in and throw down the beacon. |
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Maken Tosch
263
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:36:00 -
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Mr Vito wrote:Your reward for being good at killing people is the ISK, SP, and WP you get from killing them. Whenthe game goes live, talk to your Corps CEO or CFO and see if he/she wants to give you rewards for getting a ton of kills in a match, if they do, kudos for you, but I don't think it should be a built in game mechanic.
This I support.
In Eve Online, a player-driven event called Hulkageddon (Google it) rewards high-sec suicide gankers with ISK, Ships, PLEX, and other things that were donated by other players as a reward for achieving certain goals.
Here are some examples from the recent event.
http://hulkageddon5.machine9.net/?page_id=14
This promotes emergent game play which is what DUST will be a part of. |
Major Arcana
12
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:54:00 -
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Just reward killsteaks the oldskool way!
"HEADSHOT" "MULTIKILL" "MERC X IS DOMINATING"
Unreal Tournie style! |
Derek Barnes
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
340
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Posted - 2012.08.05 04:00:00 -
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Richard Blackburn wrote:Mr Vito wrote:Your reward for being good at killing people is the ISK, SP, and WP you get from killing them. Whenthe game goes live, talk to your Corps CEO or CFO and see if he/she wants to give you rewards for getting a ton of kills in a match, if they do, kudos for you, but I don't think it should be a built in game mechanic. there are no 'shes' in dust ;)
Jenza Aranda is a 'She' |
Bresker Veyne
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.08.05 04:10:00 -
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Killstreaks would give the game an 'arcade' feel it doesn't need. You get isk and sp for a job well done, that's all you need. The game isn't about running around and getting as many kills as possible, it's objective based. |
Rohnan Senkusha
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2012.08.05 07:38:00 -
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HAV drivers are gonna love this...
I |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.08.05 08:06:00 -
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All fps have kill streaks right now. It would be a disappointment if the game didnt. Im just wondering what are the players going to get. Is it going to be a small award or big award.... |
Rohnan Senkusha
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2012.08.05 08:08:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:All fps have kill streaks right now. It would be a disappointment if the game didnt. Im just wondering what are the players going to get. Is it going to be a small award or big award.... A pat on the back |
testguy242
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Posted - 2012.08.05 08:13:00 -
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Richard Blackburn wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Richard Blackburn wrote:Mr Vito wrote:Your reward for being good at killing people is the ISK, SP, and WP you get from killing them. Whenthe game goes live, talk to your Corps CEO or CFO and see if he/she wants to give you rewards for getting a ton of kills in a match, if they do, kudos for you, but I don't think it should be a built in game mechanic. there are no 'shes' in dust ;) Once the market goes live with Eve Online, perhaps you should order a bunch of Exotic Dancers to please you. depends how "exotic" they are...i like asians not aliens
"Exotic dancer" is a euphemism for stripper. And there are no sentient aliens in this universe. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.08.05 08:32:00 -
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There are already a very long thread on the topic, one which already have DEV attention. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=28850 |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.08.05 08:34:00 -
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Absolutely not needed. Player already get rewards according to their efficiency. This would only push players into snipe tower camping to get a few more SP. Also corp tools dont need that either. Corp leaders are supposed to know who needs a speciall reward without such thing. |
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DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.08.05 08:39:00 -
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They need to add as much as they can to the gameplay. My question is, why should they hold back and not add kill streak in some form? The more gameplay, the better. Add as much as possible. Just be creative.... |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.05 09:23:00 -
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testguy242 wrote:"Exotic dancer" is a euphemism for stripper. And there are no sentient aliens in this universe.
Actually, that may not be entirely true. Have you read the 514 Chronicle? It begins to introduce something called "Sleepers" which invented the technology used to create the mercenaries. The original implants were not actually produced by New Eden scientists, rather they were discovered and being tested. I suggest you read the chronicle, it really is quite interesting, a good read if I do say so myself.
Edit: Also, if killstreaks are introduced, I will be disappointed. The only thing I would really be okay with, would be a few extra War Points for you 5th kill and anything following, or something like that. Say kills 1-4 reward +50, kills 5 and on reward +75. Other than that, I see no place for kill streaks in this game. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.08.05 10:46:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:testguy242 wrote:"Exotic dancer" is a euphemism for stripper. And there are no sentient aliens in this universe. Actually, that may not be entirely true. Have you read the 514 Chronicle? It begins to introduce something called "Sleepers" which invented the technology used to create the mercenaries. The original implants were not actually produced by New Eden scientists, rather they were discovered and being tested. I suggest you read the chronicle, it really is quite interesting, a good read if I do say so myself. Sleepers are humans that long ago left for the wormhole space and diverged.
I suggest you go reread the chronicles. |
Ad ski
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
209
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Posted - 2012.08.05 10:55:00 -
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Adding any kind of killstreak reward promotes camping. Numerous people play the game like that as it is, trying to protect their k/d's or what not. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.05 11:07:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Frankly, I don't want it. If we add those kill streaks, then the hardcore COD players will complain about how Dust 514 is just a copy-paste version of COD.
This
If you want COD and things from COD go play COD ffs |
Ad ski
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
209
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Posted - 2012.08.05 11:09:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Frankly, I don't want it. If we add those kill streaks, then the hardcore COD players will complain about how Dust 514 is just a copy-paste version of COD. This If you want COD and things from COD go play COD ffs I couldn't agree more. Personally I am sick of other games trying to be like COD. Sure the game is successful but it is far from being a good game. |
Melke Boom
Machetes at Midnight Ghosts of Deep Space
0
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Posted - 2012.08.05 17:30:00 -
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No, killstreaks aren't needed. I play Tribes Ascend and you can spend your points on a tactical strike but you also use that for spawning vehicles and upgrading your base so there is a balance.
I don't want more random death from above in this game that isn't an Orbital strike from an actual Eve ship. I get enough of that now with getting crushed by transports. |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
119
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Posted - 2012.08.05 18:03:00 -
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Richard Blackburn wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Richard Blackburn wrote:Mr Vito wrote:Your reward for being good at killing people is the ISK, SP, and WP you get from killing them. Whenthe game goes live, talk to your Corps CEO or CFO and see if he/she wants to give you rewards for getting a ton of kills in a match, if they do, kudos for you, but I don't think it should be a built in game mechanic. there are no 'shes' in dust ;) Once the market goes live with Eve Online, perhaps you should order a bunch of Exotic Dancers to please you. depends how "exotic" they are...i like asians not aliens Hi, I'm Commander Sheppard and this is my favorite post on the Dust Forum. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.05 21:08:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:testguy242 wrote:"Exotic dancer" is a euphemism for stripper. And there are no sentient aliens in this universe. Actually, that may not be entirely true. Have you read the 514 Chronicle? It begins to introduce something called "Sleepers" which invented the technology used to create the mercenaries. The original implants were not actually produced by New Eden scientists, rather they were discovered and being tested. I suggest you read the chronicle, it really is quite interesting, a good read if I do say so myself. Sleepers are humans that long ago left for the wormhole space and diverged. I suggest you go reread the chronicles.
From the Chronicle:
"The risks are significant and cannot be ignored," replied Sarum. "The Sleepers are a civilization older than any other - older than New Eden, some believe. They may not exist in our physical realm at present, but it looks like that may stand to change. If they continue to be attacked in this way, there is no telling what they might do out of self-defense. And it is certainly not prudent for us to leave them any openings."
Also:
"Blood-red skies, strange beings, and the number 514, often written in blood," said Shakor.
It says nothing about the sleepers being Human, it only says that they are ancient. How did you gather that? |
Legolas Winterbane
4
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Posted - 2012.08.05 21:16:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Rasatsu wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:testguy242 wrote:"Exotic dancer" is a euphemism for stripper. And there are no sentient aliens in this universe. Actually, that may not be entirely true. Have you read the 514 Chronicle? It begins to introduce something called "Sleepers" which invented the technology used to create the mercenaries. The original implants were not actually produced by New Eden scientists, rather they were discovered and being tested. I suggest you read the chronicle, it really is quite interesting, a good read if I do say so myself. Sleepers are humans that long ago left for the wormhole space and diverged. I suggest you go reread the chronicles. From the Chronicle: "The risks are significant and cannot be ignored," replied Sarum. "The Sleepers are a civilization older than any other - older than New Eden, some believe. They may not exist in our physical realm at present, but it looks like that may stand to change. If they continue to be attacked in this way, there is no telling what they might do out of self-defense. And it is certainly not prudent for us to leave them any openings." Also: "Blood-red skies, strange beings, and the number 514, often written in blood," said Shakor. It says nothing about the sleepers being Human, it only says that they are ancient. How did you gather that?
Read other lore then just that the sleepers are the ancient human civilization from earth that came to New Eden through a wormhole but the wormhole then closed so they were cut off from the rest of society and after thousands of years they became the races we have today. Or something like that. |
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Wako 75
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
76
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Posted - 2012.08.05 21:23:00 -
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Richard Blackburn wrote:Mr Vito wrote:Your reward for being good at killing people is the ISK, SP, and WP you get from killing them. Whenthe game goes live, talk to your Corps CEO or CFO and see if he/she wants to give you rewards for getting a ton of kills in a match, if they do, kudos for you, but I don't think it should be a built in game mechanic. there are no 'shes' in dust ;)
i know a few lol |
testguy242
44
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Posted - 2012.08.07 09:31:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:testguy242 wrote:"Exotic dancer" is a euphemism for stripper. And there are no sentient aliens in this universe. Actually, that may not be entirely true. Have you read the 514 Chronicle? It begins to introduce something called "Sleepers" which invented the technology used to create the mercenaries. The original implants were not actually produced by New Eden scientists, rather they were discovered and being tested. I suggest you read the chronicle, it really is quite interesting, a good read if I do say so myself.
Sleepers are not new and have been in the lore for years. You also see their left behind technology and fight their drones in wormhole space, which was added in the Apocrypha expansion.
They're not aliens, though--they're some long-lost human civilization.
Remember that there was a dark age for thousands of years after the EVE gate collapsed before society rebuilt itself and interstellar travel was rediscovered. Lots of obscure branches of humans could have sprung up and disappeared that no one today knows about.
Here's some basic info.
And yeah, I read that chronicle. I need to read the third novel Templar One, as I think it may related to DUST as well. They make references to the Templar program in the chronicle. |
Oswald Banecroft II
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.08.07 09:59:00 -
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Dust is not an Arcade FPS like another game I could mention but will, instead, leave nameless. Go back to WoW? Wait... That doesn't work here... |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.07 10:09:00 -
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Legolas Winterbane wrote:Read other lore then just that the sleepers are the ancient human civilization from earth that came to New Eden through a wormhole but the wormhole then closed so they were cut off from the rest of society and after thousands of years they became the races we have today. Or something like that.
testguy242 wrote:Sleepers are not new and have been in the lore for years. You also see their left behind technology and fight their drones in wormhole space, which was added in the Apocrypha expansion.
They're not aliens, though--they're some long-lost human civilization.
Remember that there was a dark age for thousands of years after the EVE gate collapsed before society rebuilt itself and interstellar travel was rediscovered. Lots of obscure branches of humans could have sprung up and disappeared that no one today knows about.
Here's some basic info.
And yeah, I read that chronicle. I need to read the third novel Templar One, as I think it may related to DUST as well. They make references to the Templar program in the chronicle.
Well then, my lack of familiarity with EVE lore explains all that then. However, I am still going to point at this - " 'Blood-red skies, strange beings, and the number 514, often written in blood,' said Shakor." I want to know what the "strange beings" are, they could be sentient aliens, could they not? :) Unless there is other lore that can confirm otherwise, which would be disappointing. |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
291
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Posted - 2012.08.07 10:58:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: Well then, my lack of familiarity with EVE lore explains all that then. However, I am still going to point at this - " 'Blood-red skies, strange beings, and the number 514, often written in blood,' said Shakor." I want to know what the "strange beings" are, they could be sentient aliens, could they not? :) Unless there is other lore that can confirm otherwise, which would be disappointing.
Who really knows? (well, the devs know, at least.) To the citizens of New Eden ancient history is myth and legend anyway.
Humanity has diverged somewhat in the thousands of years since the collapse of the wormhole that brought them here, the Jove, for example, have genengineered themselves so much that they look more like aliens (what ones are left, only pictures and art to go by, really) I do think the Sleepers are the last remnants of the original colonists of New Eden, myself.
Hmmm, you know, one of my first trips as a new player in EVE was to take a sightseeing trip to the EVE Gate (not much to look at beyond a sun-like collapsed wormhole and a really dangerous trip in)
One thought made me wonder then, and keeps me wondering now when I play.
What happened to the Earth and human race that our ancestors (as players in New Eden) left behind when they came through the EVE Gate and after the collapse and fall of that civilization, and will we ever see their descendants? |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
291
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:03:00 -
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On killstreaks: No, I dont particularly like the ideas of Killstreaks for this game. We have the tools on-planet ourselves, and can call in fire from above in certain situations - i don't really see a need for them.
I would be onboard for ISK or SP awards for achievements like 'hack x many enemy objects' or 'kill Y many vehicles' |
Oswald Banecroft II
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:04:00 -
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Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote:One thought made me wonder then, and keeps me wondering now when I play.
What happened to the Earth and human race that our ancestors (as players in New Eden) left behind when they came through the EVE Gate and after the collapse and fall of that civilization, and will we ever see their descendants? Given the joyous direction of EVE I imagine the Earth degenerated into rampant cannibalism.
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Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
291
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:10:00 -
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Oswald Banecroft II wrote:Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote:One thought made me wonder then, and keeps me wondering now when I play.
What happened to the Earth and human race that our ancestors (as players in New Eden) left behind when they came through the EVE Gate and after the collapse and fall of that civilization, and will we ever see their descendants? Given the joyous direction of EVE I imagine the Earth degenerated into rampant cannibalism.
Maybe they did, for a while.
And maybe they became the kind of empire who are such heartless bastiches that it makes the one in star wars look like girl scouts in comparison - and did not forget us.
tinfoil hats, anyone? |
Oswald Banecroft II
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:23:00 -
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Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote:Oswald Banecroft II wrote:Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote:One thought made me wonder then, and keeps me wondering now when I play.
What happened to the Earth and human race that our ancestors (as players in New Eden) left behind when they came through the EVE Gate and after the collapse and fall of that civilization, and will we ever see their descendants? Given the joyous direction of EVE I imagine the Earth degenerated into rampant cannibalism. Maybe they did, for a while. And maybe they became the kind of empire who are such heartless bastiches that it makes the one in star wars look like girl scouts in comparison - and did not forget us. tinfoil hats, anyone? I actually think that Earth Civilization continued to advanced and then they destroyed themselves and the wormholes people venture into in EVE actually connect to the Milky Way and the Sleepers are the last remnant of a once great civilization. I also think the sleepers are what lead to their destruction. But hey, I have no basis for that claim and I do not think the current lore supports my premise.
*shrugs*
Time may tell... Or it already has. |
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