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Mmkk333
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.04 23:46:00 -
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Is it just me, or has Dust done everything possible to scare away the casual player despite being F2P?
With the rumors of allowing keyboard and mouse compatibility, corps that have stringent recruiting policies that will **** the smaller corps, the introduction aurum, which isn't P2W but does unbalance the scales, and making the dropsuit customization system extremely complex to the average player coming from games like CoD or BF, this game seems to be anti-casual.
You can respond with bullsh*t like "Adapt or die", "Go back to CoD", "Unnecessary thread is unnecessary", "Kthnkxbai", etc. etc. etc. but you know it is true. |
Los Silencio
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
123
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Posted - 2012.08.04 23:51:00 -
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The entire point of this game is to BE unconventional. It isn't intended to be developed as your average "cookie cutter" mold of a FPS. Can you not understand that? The skill system isn't complicated if you take your time, ask questions and do some research. Lazy people need not apply. Kthnkxbai. |
Relyt R
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.08.04 23:52:00 -
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I think it's supposed to be hardcore, that's the eve universe.
Generally speaking, there will be places for every level of dedication. Red versus Blue is a good place for casuals to experience PVP, for example. |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
119
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Posted - 2012.08.04 23:53:00 -
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Sounds like A Counter Strike player to me. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.04 23:59:00 -
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Yup, and the trouble is it's not CCP saying adapt or die. They're asking for feedback. It's the EvEfanboys. And they've been at it for atleast 2-3 months now. They'll keep talking trash too. But yeah, EvE people tend to over estimate the importance of EvE in the Dust. They don't realise that when Dust was first thought of, there wasn't going to be any link with EvE except the universe. No OS, no market integration. Dust is first and foremost an FPS. EvE isn't hardcore. Firstly you get 2 lives, secondly YOU RESPAWN. That's not hardcore. It's not just casuals it puts off. It's more annoying than the damn "My terrible KDR doesn't mean I suck" justification threads. |
Aijul
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
55
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:02:00 -
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I hate how certain forum users do everything they can to ignore constructive criticism. People post threads such as these to help make the game better. Why keep the game stuck in a rut? Why not provide constructive feedback, or actually discuss current feedback instead of dismissing it all the time?
Currently, the game is not friendly for new players. Whether you're an FPS veteran or you've never played an FPS, it needs to be able to explain the core game mechanics more efficiently. This does not make the game easier, it makes it more comprehensible. |
Arceus Evoxazon
Hikahotaru
119
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:05:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Yup, and the trouble is it's not CCP saying adapt or die. They're asking for feedback. It's the EvEfanboys. And they've been at it for atleast 2-3 months now. They'll keep talking trash too. But yeah, EvE people tend to over estimate the importance of EvE in the Dust. They don't realise that when Dust was first thought of, there wasn't going to be any link with EvE except the universe. No OS, no market integration. Dust is first and foremost an FPS. EvE isn't hardcore. Firstly you get 2 lives, secondly YOU RESPAWN. That's not hardcore. It's not just casuals it puts off. It's more annoying than the damn "My terrible KDR doesn't mean I suck" justification threads. Yeah, we should me it so hardcore that when you die, you're banned from the game! |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:12:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Yup, and the trouble is it's not CCP saying adapt or die. They're asking for feedback. It's the EvEfanboys. And they've been at it for atleast 2-3 months now. They'll keep talking trash too. But yeah, EvE people tend to over estimate the importance of EvE in the Dust. They don't realise that when Dust was first thought of, there wasn't going to be any link with EvE except the universe. No OS, no market integration. Dust is first and foremost an FPS. EvE isn't hardcore. Firstly you get 2 lives, secondly YOU RESPAWN. That's not hardcore. It's not just casuals it puts off. It's more annoying than the damn "My terrible KDR doesn't mean I suck" justification threads. Actually, the concept of having EVE players contract Dust players was central to the development of Dust from the very beginning. All the other means of connection were more recent developments, but a means of interaction between the two games was always a central focus of this game's design. If there isn't that, what would be the point? |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:20:00 -
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... Get back to yer Call of Duty you whipper-snapper! Ankle biter! Just get off my lawn!
Ha-ha. Alright joking aside. Actually all that CCP has done is not cater to the majority, and is doing what they want to do with there game. It does not have to be like Call of Duty or every other game. It will find it's niche'. People here just to stop being so utterly quick to dismiss. Granted I understand that the average attention span of most Americans is limited to what is it now four seconds, but you really need to realize that this unfinished, and it takes time to get things done. They could just throw a game out there and patch it later like everyone else. Or they could get what they set out to do done, and done properly and then add new mechanics, and features in real updates, for us all.
Oh well... Said what I had to say. |
Icy Tiger
496
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:23:00 -
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"Adapt or die", "Go back to CoD", "Unnecessary thread is unnecessary", "Kthnkxbai", etc. etc. etc."
You asked for it. |
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Diagon Vasari
63
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:24:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Yup, and the trouble is it's not CCP saying adapt or die. They're asking for feedback. It's the EvEfanboys. And they've been at it for atleast 2-3 months now. They'll keep talking trash too. But yeah, EvE people tend to over estimate the importance of EvE in the Dust. They don't realise that when Dust was first thought of, there wasn't going to be any link with EvE except the universe. No OS, no market integration. Dust is first and foremost an FPS. EvE isn't hardcore. Firstly you get 2 lives, secondly YOU RESPAWN. That's not hardcore. It's not just casuals it puts off. It's more annoying than the damn "My terrible KDR doesn't mean I suck" justification threads.
oh....you dont think iEVE is harcore? PLEASE do tell me where you get your evidence to support such a rediculous statment and the respawn comment was the most idiotic thing on these forums. just no. just stop right no and quit the beta.
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Dalton Smithe
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
45
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:28:00 -
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Mmkk333 wrote:Is it just me, or has Dust done everything possible to scare away the casual player despite being F2P?
With the rumors of allowing keyboard and mouse compatibility, corps that have stringent recruiting policies that will **** the smaller corps, the introduction aurum, which isn't P2W but does unbalance the scales, and making the dropsuit customization system extremely complex to the average player coming from games like CoD or BF, this game seems to be anti-casual.
You can respond with bullsh*t like "Adapt or die", "Go back to CoD", "Unnecessary thread is unnecessary", "Kthnkxbai", etc. etc. etc. but you know it is true.
I don't think that anyone under 18 should play this game....but that's just me. I am tired of playing with children who constantly whine.... |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:30:00 -
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Diablo 1, 2 and 3 Hardcore mode? Stop your crying please? Get some experience outside EvE please? |
Aijul
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
55
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:32:00 -
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Dalton Smithe wrote:Mmkk333 wrote:Is it just me, or has Dust done everything possible to scare away the casual player despite being F2P?
With the rumors of allowing keyboard and mouse compatibility, corps that have stringent recruiting policies that will **** the smaller corps, the introduction aurum, which isn't P2W but does unbalance the scales, and making the dropsuit customization system extremely complex to the average player coming from games like CoD or BF, this game seems to be anti-casual.
You can respond with bullsh*t like "Adapt or die", "Go back to CoD", "Unnecessary thread is unnecessary", "Kthnkxbai", etc. etc. etc. but you know it is true. I don't think that anyone under 18 should play this game....but that's just me. I am tired of playing with children who constantly whine.... Because adults whining is more acceptable than kids whining.
I've honestly heard more men complaining and cursing at the screen than kids during my experience in online games. Age doesn't have much to do with it to many people's disbelief. Maturity does.
If feedback is going to be shot down, then why is the forum even open? I just don't get it. |
Diagon Vasari
63
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:33:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Diablo 1, 2 and 3 Hardcore mode? Stop your crying please? Get some experience outside EvE please?
ARE you Edited? diablo hardocre? OH WOW WATCH OUT EVERBODY WE GOT A BAD ONE HERE! hahahah wow hold on let ne step back at your supposed bad assery. do me a favor please just shut your trap you obviously dont know what your talking about and the simple fact that you try to justify your posts is funny to me. |
Icy Tiger
496
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:38:00 -
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Diagon Vasari wrote:Tony Calif wrote:Diablo 1, 2 and 3 Hardcore mode? Stop your crying please? Get some experience outside EvE please? ARE you Edited? diablo hardocre? OH WOW WATCH OUT EVERBODY WE GOT A BAD ONE HERE! hahahah wow hold on let ne step back at your supposed bad assery. do me a favor please just shut your trap you obviously dont know what your talking about and the simple fact that you try to justify your posts is funny to me.
LoL you guys both suck. Catherine on Hard is difficult as Edited, same with Demon's Souls sometimes. Also, Mega Man 9 is brutal, but worst of all is......................
Hannah Montana.
I'm serious, the game gives me nightmares to this day. I couldn't believe in myself enough to overcome depression as Miley. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:50:00 -
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Why don't you like Diablo? You never PvP'd? You a bad ass? I was :) You keep respawning and thinking it's "hardcore" I have no problem with that. Just don't tell me how hardcore it is please. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:51:00 -
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Friday The Thirteenth for the NES is all but nigh impossible to beat. Jason, just comes and wrecks you immedietly after starting almost. You die. XD
Seriously though do we have people trying to make video games sound hardcore. No one here will ever be as hardcore as the average South Korean gamer. Why? They die for gaming. Simple as that. They have literally died gaming. Even in gaming cafe's. This year alone I think I've read like eight articles on some South Korean youth whom died while gaming.
Anyway. A games difficulty is subjective. It varies from one person to another. For some it will gruesomely hard, and others easy as any other game. Some grasps other games better, or play a particular game better then others will. It happens. I think games can be hard or challenging, but calling a game hardcore is a bit a statement to make. It's the people playing the game that make it hardcore as some do not know when to stop, or take a break, or when enough is enough. Some people take things way to far, and out of the boundries of what should be acceptable. It happens because, people by nature are exrtemists. Sadly though.
Why I bothered to reply though is beyond me. Frivolous to respond if you ask me. People seem to want to hear, and see only what they wish. Oh well. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.05 00:58:00 -
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Korea banned the sale of D3 items. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.08.05 01:01:00 -
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And China promotes a certain hack for Diablo3. The world is funny, fickle place.
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Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.08.05 01:13:00 -
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Mmkk333 wrote: "Adapt or die", "Go back to CoD", "Unnecessary thread is unnecessary", "Kthnkxbai", etc. etc. etc. but you know it is true. it is true, thats why this game will succeed if they resolve all the issues of lag and other core features that make the FPS part playable. |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
462
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Posted - 2012.08.05 01:50:00 -
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Unnecessary thread is unnecessary |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:00:00 -
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Mmkk333 wrote:Is it just me, or has Dust done everything possible to scare away the casual player despite being F2P?
With the rumors of allowing keyboard and mouse compatibility, corps that have stringent recruiting policies that will **** the smaller corps, the introduction aurum, which isn't P2W but does unbalance the scales, and making the dropsuit customization system extremely complex to the average player coming from games like CoD or BF, this game seems to be anti-casual.
You can respond with bullsh*t like "Adapt or die", "Go back to CoD", "Unnecessary thread is unnecessary", "Kthnkxbai", etc. etc. etc. but you know it is true.
If anything,the only thing that they have done to scare people away is to not not make sure the gaming environment is stable.Last build was riddled with hard freezes,and this build has the worst hit detection known to man.Add a sprinkle of lag and you have a beta that a lot of people just don't want to play.
What I don't understand is how CCP expects people to give honest feedback with the beta running the way it is.Hopefully,in the next build they can iron out a lot of the network issue that are plaguing this beta.And enough with the skipping framerate too. |
Nexus Dragoon 514
BetaMax.
78
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:02:00 -
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Mmkk333 wrote:Is it just me, or has Dust done everything possible to scare away the casual player despite being F2P?
With the rumors of allowing keyboard and mouse compatibility, corps that have stringent recruiting policies that will **** the smaller corps, the introduction aurum, which isn't P2W but does unbalance the scales, and making the dropsuit customization system extremely complex to the average player coming from games like CoD or BF, this game seems to be anti-casual.
You can respond with bullsh*t like "Adapt or die", "Go back to CoD", "Unnecessary thread is unnecessary", "Kthnkxbai", etc. etc. etc. but you know it is true. the truth is if they dumb it down more people will quit that join. I will. didnt come here to play COD, and i wont stay if it degenerates in to THAT. and you haven't given a good enough reason for me to play style i hated.
We are not looking for average players. This is not an average Game. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.05 02:08:00 -
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Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote:Mmkk333 wrote:Is it just me, or has Dust done everything possible to scare away the casual player despite being F2P?
With the rumors of allowing keyboard and mouse compatibility, corps that have stringent recruiting policies that will **** the smaller corps, the introduction aurum, which isn't P2W but does unbalance the scales, and making the dropsuit customization system extremely complex to the average player coming from games like CoD or BF, this game seems to be anti-casual.
You can respond with bullsh*t like "Adapt or die", "Go back to CoD", "Unnecessary thread is unnecessary", "Kthnkxbai", etc. etc. etc. but you know it is true. the truth is if they dumb it down more people will quit that join. I will. didnt come here to play COD, and i wont stay if it degenerates in to THAT. and you haven't given a good enough reason for me to play style i hated. We are not looking for average players. This is not an average Game.
well said. unfortunately not everyone can handle complexities or they simply dont care. |
Benjamin Hellios
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
259
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Posted - 2012.08.05 03:13:00 -
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Mmkk333 wrote:Is it just me, or has Dust done everything possible to scare away the casual player despite being F2P?
With the rumors of allowing keyboard and mouse compatibility, corps that have stringent recruiting policies that will **** the smaller corps, the introduction aurum, which isn't P2W but does unbalance the scales, and making the dropsuit customization system extremely complex to the average player coming from games like CoD or BF, this game seems to be anti-casual.
You can respond with bullsh*t like "Adapt or die", "Go back to CoD", "Unnecessary thread is unnecessary", "Kthnkxbai", etc. etc. etc. but you know it is true.
I wouldn't say it's anti casual, it just has more depth than other fps games and it takes time to get familiar with that. Concerning the dropsuit fittings, there's the default fittings to get you started and the customization becomes quite simple once you learn the basic concept behind it. As for the aurum items, that's open for debate, I haven't looked into it too much because, well, it's free to play in beta stage so I don't really see the point.
For the moment player corps are irrelevant since they won't be introduced to the game for quite a while and the game will start off with simple/NPC corps, so when they're introduced, you can just get a group of friends, all join the same NPC corp to begin with, as the game evolves and updates you'll have plenty of time to learn about corp dynamics. However there are player corps that are a bit more userfriendly and are willing to train and help you. Check out the general recruitment thread, just have a look and pick the one that seems to have the least amount of d*uchebags in it, I'd recommend ZionTCD.
Other than that you'll just have to learn to ignore the trolls, elitist pr*cks (videogame elite, what a joke) and people acting like they're more knowledgable about gamedesign than CCP just because they play a lot of games. Fortunately they're a minority. Unfortunately they stand out the most, you'll recognize them by their excessive use of all caps and endless repetition, they truly are the masters of copy and paste. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.05 03:16:00 -
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Benjamin Hellios wrote:Mmkk333 wrote:Is it just me, or has Dust done everything possible to scare away the casual player despite being F2P?
With the rumors of allowing keyboard and mouse compatibility, corps that have stringent recruiting policies that will **** the smaller corps, the introduction aurum, which isn't P2W but does unbalance the scales, and making the dropsuit customization system extremely complex to the average player coming from games like CoD or BF, this game seems to be anti-casual.
You can respond with bullsh*t like "Adapt or die", "Go back to CoD", "Unnecessary thread is unnecessary", "Kthnkxbai", etc. etc. etc. but you know it is true. I wouldn't say it's anti casual, it just has more depth than other fps games and it takes time to get familiar with that. Concerning the dropsuit fittings, there's the default fittings to get you started and the customization becomes quite simple once you learn the basic concept behind it. As for the aurum items, that's open for debate, I haven't looked into it too much because, well, it's free to play in beta stage so I don't really see the point. For the moment player corps are irrelevant since they won't be introduced to the game for quite a while and the game will start off with simple/NPC corps, so when they're introduced, you can just get a group of friends, all join the same NPC corp to begin with, as the game evolves and update you'll have plenty of time to learn about corp dynamics. However there are player corps that are a bit more userfriendly and are willing to train and help you. Check out the general recruitment thread, just have a look and pick the one that seems to have the least amount of d*uchebags in it, I'd recommend ZionTCD. Other than that you'll just have to learn to ignore the trolls, elitist pr*cks (videogame elite, what a joke) and people acting like they're more knowledgable about gamedesign than CCP just because they play a lot of games. Fortunately they're a minority. Unfortunately they stand out the most, you'll recognize them by their excessive use of all caps and endless repetition, they truly are the masters of copy and paste.
lol only so much can be done to combat shenanigans tho...common sense isnt so common |
Benjamin Hellios
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
259
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Posted - 2012.08.05 03:25:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote: lol only so much can be done to combat shenanigans tho...common sense isnt so common
Well there's always the "Hide Posts (X)" option. Not that I use it. And in game there'll be push2talk and I'm suppose muting as well...not that I'll use it, I don't want to miss a change to be clever and witty when the opportunity arises. |
Sojuro Ryo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2012.08.05 03:38:00 -
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Dalton Smithe wrote:Mmkk333 wrote:Is it just me, or has Dust done everything possible to scare away the casual player despite being F2P?
With the rumors of allowing keyboard and mouse compatibility, corps that have stringent recruiting policies that will **** the smaller corps, the introduction aurum, which isn't P2W but does unbalance the scales, and making the dropsuit customization system extremely complex to the average player coming from games like CoD or BF, this game seems to be anti-casual.
You can respond with bullsh*t like "Adapt or die", "Go back to CoD", "Unnecessary thread is unnecessary", "Kthnkxbai", etc. etc. etc. but you know it is true. I don't think that anyone under 18 should play this game....but that's just me. I am tired of playing with children who constantly whine....
Actually anyone under the age of 18 legally can't play as they can not legally sign the NDA in order to play. |
Renzo Kuken
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
369
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Posted - 2012.08.05 03:49:00 -
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Mmkk333 wrote:Is it just me, or has Dust done everything possible to scare away the casual player despite being F2P?
With the rumors of allowing keyboard and mouse compatibility, corps that have stringent recruiting policies that will **** the smaller corps, the introduction aurum, which isn't P2W but does unbalance the scales, and making the dropsuit customization system extremely complex to the average player coming from games like CoD or BF, this game seems to be anti-casual.
You can respond with bullsh*t like "Adapt or die", "Go back to CoD", "Unnecessary thread is unnecessary", "Kthnkxbai", etc. etc. etc. but you know it is true. KBM isnt a rumor its been confirmed multiple times
just like right now |
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