You ladies are objective players support!!!

What i am saying is that kdr is not more important then everything
This is why.

You can not win a objective game sololy on kdr but you can get slaughtered and still win if you hold the objectives

you never take out vehicles cause thay would mean hurting your kdr. so you are willing to let the rest of your team get curb stomped if it means keeping a good kdr. a objective player will take out that vehicle so he can hack the point.

you will choose getting kills which leads you away from objectives so you either not defending it or capturing it when needed. objective player will secure capture and defend.

Yes you do make life easier for holding objectives. but really that is just a support role in objective games.

You increase the chances of winning. but without objective players you would never win.

so objective/support role players are actually the best.

Wow.

This stereotype that killers can't hold an objective and kill everyone is so ******* dumb. You can't take an objective without killing people. fact

Killers with teamwork>circle holders with teamwork. Everyday all day. You can try and run as many different tactics as you want. When you are outplayed you are outplayed.

Killers are more important. A logi guy with a 5 kdr> A logi guy with a 1 kdr. I don't underestimate anyone but I have played enough FPS to now what works. Killers>cirlce holders.

Yes, let's all run around like chickens with our heads cut off to try to get as many kills as possible and abandon our objectives so the enemy can flank us and take them.

Way to miss the point.

My point was killers with teamwork>circle holders with teamwork. The stereotype that killers don't ever take objectives is false. People just try to justify being bad at fps by holding an objective. In competitive corp battle you will see what I mean. The team with the better killers/teamwork will win. If everyone in my corp has a 5.0 kdr then that means all my logi guys can kill and heal. They are not just useless cannon fodder that will run around healing people and dieing all the time.

I love how you people troll without even really understanding whats being said. Grow up.

Back in the day of the international mag champoinship, one squad of team USA beat 3 squads of PRO on defense. Sure they had tactics/teamwork and they were using it but we had the killers so we won.

No amount of teamwork will stop elite killers if the other team can't match them in skill.

So we should never attempt to keep an objective when we take it?

Never said killers do not help or even do objectives. every once in awhile they will but if a killer might hurt his kdr he avoid them then. killers do not win games circle holders do. Unless your playing amnush.
i do hold 3.5 kdr but when a circle holding oppertunity appears i go for it. And then get back to killing as i keep it secure.
support build players are more likely capt that objective then pass it by.

Yes killers are important and make winning the game more possible but in the end circle holders are what win the game and are willing to get killed if they know it gets them there.

A good circle holder always clears objectives then capts or they are great at knowing when they can cap without the enemy noticing before it is to late.

So yes you are just support to the circle holder in the end.

You ladies are objective players support!!!

What i am saying is that kdr is not more important then everything
This is why.

You can not win a objective game sololy on kdr but you can get slaughtered and still win if you hold the objectives

you never take out vehicles cause thay would mean hurting your kdr. so you are willing to let the rest of your team get curb stomped if it means keeping a good kdr. a objective player will take out that vehicle so he can hack the point.

you will choose getting kills which leads you away from objectives so you either not defending it or capturing it when needed. objective player will secure capture and defend.

Yes you do make life easier for holding objectives. but really that is just a support role in objective games.

You increase the chances of winning. but without objective players you would never win.

so objective/support role players are actually the best.

I don't even care about people just going for a K/D ratio anymore. I'm not even that good and I somehow still maintain a positive K/D ratio, so I don't pay attention to it. That's what the death match maps are for anyways.

I've found my joy in life is harassing as many vehicles I can find, drawing their attention away from my team mates. Plus its such a joy destroying someone in a 300k+ tank.

Not every logi/circle holder is a terrible killer.

What about a circle holding killers?

If a logi player wants to be able to give good support, he's going to be a terrible killer. We can't have a strong enough weapon as well as a strong enough tank to go head-to-head with the enemy while still being able to give good support. We stay behind cover, throw nanohives/uplinks, rep, and revive (well, we will once we get the injector fix). Claiming that we're not as good at our role as you are at yours because maybe we go 3/5 instead of 22/0 is bullshit.
Hell, some of my deaths are just because I'm distracting a tank or a turret so someone can get a good shot at it.

People just try to justify being bad at fps by holding an objective.

Exuses ftw

I have seen a logi guys get 7.0 kdr while still running around dropping nanohives and healing me after gun fights.

I have even met logi guys that have gave me a hard time in my full proto gear.

Any more exuses?

Pfff, I know right, what loser would try to win an objective based game by holding an objective?

I already rephrased that for the simple minded. Read before you post. Thx

Ayures, just wait until you get K/BM and a prototype logi suit. Its a beast.

I did, you said exactly the same thing; "If you don't have a high kdr, you suck at fps". And I'm saying there's more to this game than that.

Do you play logi? If not then you shouldn't be talking. You have a 3.5 kdr? Then you are a killer that holds the objective as well. You just proved my point.

circle holders that can't kill are cannon fodder. Killers that hold circle are good players. Killers that don't take objectives are tryhards.

Its not killers vs circle holders. Its good players vs tryhards.

Killers that do not tryhard and go for objectives>circle holders that can't kill anyone.

Not every killer is a tryhard.

Not every logi/circle holder is a terrible killer.

Break the mold people.

The high KDR players are indirectly playing objectives by killing players,that goes for anyone in a troops,tanks or dropships just wasting players, however direct objective capping would be anyone that would get off there ass to hack a CRU,ABC etc. kDR is just a small peace of the puzzle and high KDR may give the illusion of a actual good player,but what defines a good player aim,skill, intelligence, leadership,?

Killers with teamwork>circle holders with teamwork. Everyday all day. You can try and run as many different tactics as you want. When you are outplayed you are outplayed.

you're going to be extremely surprised when actual corp battles come into play, and good teams keep in tight-knit groups and specifically target "killers" as you say.
three dudes firing on one dude will result in that one dude going down too fast to actually get anything close to a positive kdr. numbers rule in these kinds of situations

but in an unorganized game like how dust is now? yeah, high kdr folks can do well both with objectives and kills

You ladies are objective players support!!!

What i am saying is that kdr is not more important then everything
This is why.

You can not win a objective game sololy on kdr but you can get slaughtered and still win if you hold the objectives

you never take out vehicles cause thay would mean hurting your kdr. so you are willing to let the rest of your team get curb stomped if it means keeping a good kdr. a objective player will take out that vehicle so he can hack the point.

you will choose getting kills which leads you away from objectives so you either not defending it or capturing it when needed. objective player will secure capture and defend.

Yes you do make life easier for holding objectives. but really that is just a support role in objective games.

You increase the chances of winning. but without objective players you would never win.

so objective/support role players are actually the best.

Never said killers do not help or even do objectives. every once in awhile they will but if a killer might hurt his kdr he avoid them then. killers do not win games circle holders do. Unless your playing amnush.
i do hold 3.5 kdr but when a circle holding oppertunity appears i go for it. And then get back to killing as i keep it secure.
support build players are more likely capt that objective then pass it by.

Yes killers are important and make winning the game more possible but in the end circle holders are what win the game and are willing to get killed if they know it gets them there.

A good circle holder always clears objectives then capts or they are great at knowing when they can cap without the enemy noticing before it is to late.

So yes you are just support to the circle holder in the end.

in the end i can see alot of CoD and MaG gamers giving up when they run out of isk when the players of eve start to make there drop suits HOPE YOU ALL LIKE PAYING FOR EVERY THING IN Mill,s OF ISK ! HAHAHAHAHA !

in the end i can see alot of CoD and MaG gamers giving up when they run out of isk when the players of eve start to make there drop suits HOPE YOU ALL LIKE PAYING FOR EVERY THING IN Mill,s OF ISK ! HAHAHAHAHA !

Most corps already have alliances formed within eve that are willing to throw plenty of isk at them. So this won't be a problem.

Most corps already have alliances formed yet most i talk to are corps and alliances in hi sce ......Ooooooooooooooooooooooo

Who cares dude its just beta. There isn't even proper corps yet. Get over yourself.

Nite-times>bad furry.

the points distribution between objectives based play and "kill everyone, ignore objectives" based play is very nonsensical right now.

also, some kind of bonus for defending a point would be nice. i'm not sure why you don't get any points for stopping an enemy hack

of course, if SP was primarily passive gain, with only a little bit coming from active gain, we probably wouldn't have this problem since few people would be obsessed with getting SP

what your talking as if you can just start eve and be flying a dreads and have null space in only a week
wake up bro unless you talk to a real NULL sce corp or a Low se corps you dust bunny's go NO WARE !
you can yes be hot dropped on a planet but i dout with out the support form your eve corp being out matched and out gunned and out numbered by a CTA of null sce players holding that space i dout you will take the planet and if you some how do you still need to hold the other plants in that space with it and i dont think any one on the other side would be stupid a nuff not to Hell camp the space your in 23/7 just to watch you rot a way as they over pries the drop suits youll try to buy off the player market and send in scrub dust teams at you for cheep isk just to blow up your tanks and kill off your drop suits un till all you have is milt suits then they send in a real team to mop you up like DUST off a floor !

You ladies are objective players support!!!

What i am saying is that kdr is not more important then everything
This is why.

You can not win a objective game sololy on kdr but you can get slaughtered and still win if you hold the objectives

you never take out vehicles cause thay would mean hurting your kdr. so you are willing to let the rest of your team get curb stomped if it means keeping a good kdr. a objective player will take out that vehicle so he can hack the point.

you will choose getting kills which leads you away from objectives so you either not defending it or capturing it when needed. objective player will secure capture and defend.

Yes you do make life easier for holding objectives. but really that is just a support role in objective games.

You increase the chances of winning. but without objective players you would never win.

so objective/support role players are actually the best.

Think you just described me LOL, hey but like i helped you take A and got kicked around as you picked me up and held down them trying to fight back hence the 38/6

Probably so many people do it because my reward is identical whether I lost or won.