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Naturi Riclenore wrote:

Garma QUDA wrote:

Tyas Borg wrote:

Zitro, all I've seen him do every match is cheap tactics and abusing the game. If it's not camping in vehicles it's running around with RE. He'll get his once they balance things I'm sure, but for now don't follow him as you'll regret it at release when things like that don't work. I've been in many many betas now and it's people like him who actually get the game fixed during beta.

Doubt it, he found a way to beat the system, only a matter of time.

Not exactly true. It's not beating the system, it's abusing game mechanics. Typically in a game, this is considered a bannable offense, esp. knowingly and reapeatedly abusing game mechanics. In beta, they want you to try and find these things so that they can be resolved before retail. I remember in another beta, we abused a system so badly, that within 2 days of them putting it in the beta, the DEV's said "WOW!! We did not see think of that." and within 2 days, it was removed via a patch (we totally abused it).

A lot of people say it's not abusing it because the DEV's "programmed" it that way; which is a bunch of bologna for an excuse. Using something in a way iin which is was not intended to be used. I still laugh that on lawn-mowers, there is a warning "WARNING!!! DANGEROUS!!! Do not attempt to use lawn mower as a hedge trimmer!!! Serious bodily harm can occur!!!" It just makes me think "I want to meet the person who caused this warning to be placed on mowers. I mean, who would do that?" Guess there's one born everyday.

In the August build, they have stated that there will be things to prevent / deter the Spawn Camping, as well as some changes to RE's (for instance you will only be able to carry 2). There will be some weapon changes and other fixes as well. yeah makes you made right now, but should be fixed SOON(tm)

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Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.30 12:26:00 - [31] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: LoL garret, no offense but how does your dragonfly suit take 500 damage? I suspect whoever is firing at you is bad. (2*spash = 450) You're assuming they can figure out where I am before my 4th salvo, which usually isn't the case. If your splash radius is only 5m, and you have no idea where I am except that I'm somewhere in draw distance of you, good luck picking me out. After the first hit, and the Dropship is looking, they can usually narrow it down to about a 30-Ü arc with the next shot or two.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.30 12:34:00 - [32] - Quote Your being spawn camped. Finding you is pretty easy.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.30 13:05:00 - [33] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Your being spawn camped. Finding you is pretty easy. I've already explained an easy way to break a spawn camp, and the loadout used to do it can easily include a Swarm Launcher.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.30 13:08:00 - [34] - Quote Tell that to the people I squash with my Dropship a they try to escape. Your just making thing up. I'm not goin to continue this. I suggest you do the same. Look at zitro 111-1.
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.07.30 13:10:00 - [35] - Quote You should spawn somewhere else. My way was if they are securing an objective and I can't take it back, let them have it so that you can spawn kill them too. Another best way is to go to another objective.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.30 13:39:00 - [36] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Tell that to the people I squash with my Dropship a they try to escape. Tell that to the Dropships I take out on the way out of my spawn.
Mike Gunnzito 111	Posted - 2012.07.30 13:51:00 - [37] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: And this is why every start to every game I drop 6 droplinks. I only usually drop one, but it's always a good one. And when this sort of thing starts happening, I bring AV builds and chase them away. Even a low-tier Forge Gun can make a Sagaris retreat if you're good with it (my girlfriend is a better Forge Gunner than me) This sounds good, but sometimes you have a few of the other team who roam the map and actually find the uplink, then u go to back spawn when you die. When that happens, NO AV weapon will help you, because opponent can park a ship on top of one of the hangar things and rain missiles down on you. You die almost instantly before you can even get a shot off. Just gonna repeat what others have said... Spawn system needs to be fixed.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.30 13:52:00 - [38] - Quote Mikez Getz Likez
Mike Gunnzito 111	Posted - 2012.07.30 14:02:00 - [39] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Mikez Getz Likez Yay! I feel special. My mommy used to always tell me I was special, as I would walk onto that little yellow bus.
lDocHollidayl Imperfects Negative-Feedback 171	Posted - 2012.07.30 14:03:00 - [40] - Quote The argument "Do not let yourself get spawn camped is how one fixes spawn camping" is making me believe less in the human race. Do you realize how dumb you sound? That is illogical and holds no water...it is broken and CCP has mentioned they are changing already.

EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.07.30 14:04:00 - [41] - Quote Spawn camped lol How do you get spawn camped?
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.30 14:41:00 - [42] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: Spawn camped lol How do you get spawn camped? One team plays really well. Other team not only plays really badly, but also has nobody using Drop Uplinks. I'm pretty sure you can figure out which of those two teams will end up being spawn camped.
Tyas Borg Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 112	Posted - 2012.07.30 15:00:00 - [43] - Quote I've been on both sides of a spawn camp many times now. The decent players break at the first chance they get and believe me, there's ways out of both the defending and attacking spawn camps. I've broken spawn camps before, even without drop uplinks. All it requires is a hack on a couple of objectives and the other team is out hunting you. If the rest of your team is too dumb to take advantage then just spawn an LAV and drive about like a loon til the match ends. Better yet, fit it with a CRU. Sure there's times where you get insta popped, but you'll get a break eventually. Just don't keep spawning your top gear until you do. We all know that for now the spawn system is broken and it's very hard not to abuse the situation, but CCP has acknowledged that it is indeed broken and far from intended. We just need to be patient for a fix. As for Zitro, all I've seen him do every match is cheap tactics and abusing the game. If it's not camping in vehicles it's running around with RE. He'll get his once they balance things I'm sure, but for now don't follow him as you'll regret it at release when things like that don't work. I've been in many many betas now and it's people like him who actually get the game fixed during beta.
Garma QUDA Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 468	Posted - 2012.07.30 15:03:00 - [44] - Quote Tyas Borg wrote: Zitro, all I've seen him do every match is cheap tactics and abusing the game. If it's not camping in vehicles it's running around with RE. He'll get his once they balance things I'm sure, but for now don't follow him as you'll regret it at release when things like that don't work. I've been in many many betas now and it's people like him who actually get the game fixed during beta. Doubt it, he found a way to beat the system, only a matter of time.
Tyas Borg Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 112	Posted - 2012.07.30 15:11:00 - [45] - Quote It's not beating the system at all if the game isn't finished. How narrow minded is that line of thought?. He's abusing game mechanics in a beta, that is all. That's the point of betas, to be abused and broken to the point the devs take notice and fix the issues. Just because he's exploiting bugs and gameplay balance now, doesn't mean it will continue much longer. I've seen many players like him become nothing after a single patch in various games. Sure, he's good now but I doubt anyone will recognise his name a few months after release. That's even if he sticks around after release. Most exploiters don't as they've had their fun.
DILLIGAD 50	Posted - 2012.07.30 15:19:00 - [46] - Quote Garma QUDA wrote: Tyas Borg wrote: Zitro, all I've seen him do every match is cheap tactics and abusing the game. If it's not camping in vehicles it's running around with RE. He'll get his once they balance things I'm sure, but for now don't follow him as you'll regret it at release when things like that don't work. I've been in many many betas now and it's people like him who actually get the game fixed during beta. Doubt it, he found a way to beat the system, only a matter of time. I have blown Zitro and his Sigaris sky high. Doink! Invest in a prototype swarm launcher or prototype assault forge with complex damage mods and you can make short of any LAV/HAV or Dropship. Now if you are the only one with this loadout then understand your team pretty much sucks! Double Doink!
Garma QUDA Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 468	Posted - 2012.07.30 15:21:00 - [47] - Quote DILLIGAD wrote: Garma QUDA wrote: Tyas Borg wrote: Zitro, all I've seen him do every match is cheap tactics and abusing the game. If it's not camping in vehicles it's running around with RE. He'll get his once they balance things I'm sure, but for now don't follow him as you'll regret it at release when things like that don't work. I've been in many many betas now and it's people like him who actually get the game fixed during beta. Doubt it, he found a way to beat the system, only a matter of time. I have blown Zitro and his Sigaris sky high. Doink! Invest in a prototype swarm launcher or prototype assault forge with complex damage mods and you can make short of any LAV/HAV or Dropship. Now if you are the only one with this loadout then understand your team pretty much sucks! Double Doink! http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff32/evildrew81/scary%20stuff/Joker.gif
Naturi Riclenore BetaMax. 120	Posted - 2012.07.30 15:48:00 - [48] - Quote Garma QUDA wrote: Tyas Borg wrote: Zitro, all I've seen him do every match is cheap tactics and abusing the game. If it's not camping in vehicles it's running around with RE. He'll get his once they balance things I'm sure, but for now don't follow him as you'll regret it at release when things like that don't work. I've been in many many betas now and it's people like him who actually get the game fixed during beta. Doubt it, he found a way to beat the system, only a matter of time. Not exactly true. It's not beating the system, it's abusing game mechanics. Typically in a game, this is considered a bannable offense, esp. knowingly and reapeatedly abusing game mechanics. In beta, they want you to try and find these things so that they can be resolved before retail. I remember in another beta, we abused a system so badly, that within 2 days of them putting it in the beta, the DEV's said "WOW!! We did not see think of that." and within 2 days, it was removed via a patch (we totally abused it). A lot of people say it's not abusing it because the DEV's "programmed" it that way; which is a bunch of bologna for an excuse. Using something in a way iin which is was not intended to be used. I still laugh that on lawn-mowers, there is a warning "WARNING!!! DANGEROUS!!! Do not attempt to use lawn mower as a hedge trimmer!!! Serious bodily harm can occur!!!" It just makes me think "I want to meet the person who caused this warning to be placed on mowers. I mean, who would do that?" Guess there's one born everyday. In the August build, they have stated that there will be things to prevent / deter the Spawn Camping, as well as some changes to RE's (for instance you will only be able to carry 2). There will be some weapon changes and other fixes as well. yeah makes you made right now, but should be fixed SOON(tm)
VigSniper101 204	Posted - 2012.07.30 15:56:00 - [49] - Quote gangsta nachos wrote: Omnipotent zitro 111-1 kill death could not get out of the spawn goon swarm good luck with this mofo yo I applaud you and any of your team mates who stay till the end to suffer thru such an onslaught.[insert salute emote here] ...unlike some players who lve seen quit soon as the match starts due to what side their on/who their facing.
Valklear Leosude 20	Posted - 2012.07.30 16:07:00 - [50] - Quote VigSniper101 wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: Omnipotent zitro 111-1 kill death could not get out of the spawn goon swarm good luck with this mofo yo I applaud you and any of your team mates who stay till the end to suffer thru such an onslaught.[insert salute emote here] ...unlike some players who lve seen quit soon as the match starts due to what side their on/who their facing. Actually those people quitting as soon as the match starts are probably syncing with their Corp so they can play together. Its the only way friends can play together right now since grouping hasn't been added yet.

Cyn Bruin 90	Posted - 2012.07.30 16:47:00 - [51] - Quote I was the one that gave him his 1 death in that match and I didn't even play in it. So really, who's better?
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.07.30 16:59:00 - [52] - Quote As a member of the CFC, which is lead by Goonswarm Federation, I have to say that it always makes me happy to see threads where such things are attributed to Goon shenanigans. I've got a feeling Mittens would laugh if he read this thread.
Sir Thizzelton Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.07.30 17:06:00 - [53] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: As a member of the CFC, which is lead by Goonswarm Federation, I have to say that it always makes me happy to see threads where such things are attributed to Goon shenanigans. I've got a feeling Mittens would laugh if he read this thread. Frack goons and all your pets (o/ PL) I'll see you in delve http://www.evenews24.com/2012/07/18/preach-it-sister-recording-aaa-moralespeech/
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.07.30 18:32:00 - [54] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: Spawn camped lol How do you get spawn camped? Only had one spawn point
Garma QUDA Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 468	Posted - 2012.07.31 15:02:00 - [55] - Quote Naturi Riclenore wrote: Garma QUDA wrote: Tyas Borg wrote: Zitro, all I've seen him do every match is cheap tactics and abusing the game. If it's not camping in vehicles it's running around with RE. He'll get his once they balance things I'm sure, but for now don't follow him as you'll regret it at release when things like that don't work. I've been in many many betas now and it's people like him who actually get the game fixed during beta. Doubt it, he found a way to beat the system, only a matter of time. Not exactly true. It's not beating the system, it's abusing game mechanics. Typically in a game, this is considered a bannable offense, esp. knowingly and reapeatedly abusing game mechanics. In beta, they want you to try and find these things so that they can be resolved before retail. I remember in another beta, we abused a system so badly, that within 2 days of them putting it in the beta, the DEV's said "WOW!! We did not see think of that." and within 2 days, it was removed via a patch (we totally abused it). A lot of people say it's not abusing it because the DEV's "programmed" it that way; which is a bunch of bologna for an excuse. Using something in a way iin which is was not intended to be used. I still laugh that on lawn-mowers, there is a warning "WARNING!!! DANGEROUS!!! Do not attempt to use lawn mower as a hedge trimmer!!! Serious bodily harm can occur!!!" It just makes me think "I want to meet the person who caused this warning to be placed on mowers. I mean, who would do that?" Guess there's one born everyday. In the August build, they have stated that there will be things to prevent / deter the Spawn Camping, as well as some changes to RE's (for instance you will only be able to carry 2). There will be some weapon changes and other fixes as well. yeah makes you made right now, but should be fixed SOON(tm) Ok Ps. Gäó
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.07.31 15:45:00 - [56] - Quote Valklear Leosude wrote: VigSniper101 wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: Omnipotent zitro 111-1 kill death could not get out of the spawn goon swarm good luck with this mofo yo I applaud you and any of your team mates who stay till the end to suffer thru such an onslaught.[insert salute emote here] ...unlike some players who lve seen quit soon as the match starts due to what side their on/who their facing. Actually those people quitting as soon as the match starts are probably syncing with their Corp so they can play together. Its the only way friends can play together right now since grouping hasn't been added yet. this would be correct. although i'm sure in some instances it could also be freezing and such. its happened to me, game is starting and i freeze.
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 711	Posted - 2012.07.31 18:31:00 - [57] - Quote Honestly I hope they can afford to run tanks when grouping is up. Guess what is going to happen tankers? You're going to have a dropship in the sky stalking you. You are going to have coordinated proto swarmers camping you. Their will be remote explosives planted at your escape routes, and their will be heavies with forge guns waiting in the areas that provide you overhead cover from the dropship with proto missles harassing you. So enjoy red lining randoms for now.
jenza aranda BetaMax. 1005	Posted - 2012.07.31 19:08:00 - [58] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Sounds like Goonswarm is already making a good impression. not goonswarm, betamax ;)
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.07.31 19:52:00 - [59] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Honestly I hope they can afford to run tanks when grouping is up. Guess what is going to happen tankers? You're going to have a dropship in the sky stalking you. You are going to have coordinated proto swarmers camping you. Their will be remote explosives planted at your escape routes, and their will be heavies with forge guns waiting in the areas that provide you overhead cover from the dropship with proto missles harassing you. So enjoy red lining randoms for now. So what you're saying is you will be providing candy for our assaults and scouts in 6-pack sizes now? Grouping means support for the tanks too you know. If you thought they were unkillable now... let's leave it at EVERYONE is in for a world of hurt come player corps.
Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.07.31 19:57:00 - [60] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: Honestly I hope they can afford to run tanks when grouping is up. Guess what is going to happen tankers? You're going to have a dropship in the sky stalking you. You are going to have coordinated proto swarmers camping you. Their will be remote explosives planted at your escape routes, and their will be heavies with forge guns waiting in the areas that provide you overhead cover from the dropship with proto missles harassing you. So enjoy red lining randoms for now. So what you're saying is you will be providing candy for our assaults and scouts in 6-pack sizes now? Grouping means support for the tanks too you know. If you thought they were unkillable now... let's leave it at EVERYONE is in for a world of hurt come player corps. I don't know about ya'll but when groups are up I'm running with 2 other marauders. It already takes 3 to 4 AV infatry to take one marauder down, what happens when there are three?



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