no

Yes. Definitely.

Besides, this thread is a duplicate: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=28293

Forge is fine. Dropships are not tanks..

I find forge guns fine how they are like the man said dropships aint no tank.
You should just fly higher and when low keep moving.

Forge is fine. Dropships are not tanks..

OMFG..........NO

Enough with the ******* nerfing already.

OMFG..........NO

Enough with the ******* nerfing already.

The instant hit and Indefinite range of the forge gun is a major balance issue in itself but the fact that it can decimate a fully spec'd shield tanking Myron in 2 hits is a bit much! To give this weapon infinite range, instant hit and massive damage whilst leaving the user with a good measure of mobility (enough to track a vehicle) just makes this weapon massively overpowered.

The forge gun maybe able to take out dropships but it is next to impossible to take down a top level HAV solo so if anything I say they need a direct damage buff, or a way to over charge a shot using more ammo but doing double damage for every round you over charge with. So charge longer, do more damage, but have fewer shots. Maybe have the screen shake and recoil increase to match over charge.

The forge isn't instant hit.

The forge gun maybe able to take out dropships but it is next to impossible to take down a top level HAV solo so if anything I say they need a direct damage buff, or a way to over charge a shot using more ammo but doing double damage for every round you over charge with. So charge longer, do more damage, but have fewer shots. Maybe have the screen shake and recoil increase to match over charge.

I'm fully spec'd for forge gunning so I think i may be able to help clarify your concerns.

The main fit I run includes a prototype heavy suit and a prototype assault forge gun with 3 complex heavy damage mods - Forge guns do not hit harder than I can.

It usually takes two direct hits to kill a militia tank and 1 shot to down a militia dropship. Well-fitted and skilled militia tanks take 3 shots to a full clip (4) to take down. Well-fitted and skilled marauders are beastly and usually take 4-8 direct hits in sequence to down. Keep in mind that if the vehicles can move and get outside my draw distance or put terrain features between us their survivability goes up greatly.

Forge guns as have already been stated are not instant hit weapons. You have to lead your target depending upon speed, range and direction which can be REALLY hard, especially against dropships which can move in 4 dimensions (up/down, left/right, forward/back and faster/slower.) Leading your target also means leading the charge-up time on the thing. At 2.5 seconds this is not insignificant - hitting a fast moving dropship takes skill, not just an uber weapon and skillpoints.

Tracking? Are you serious? Shooting at the south eastern CRU - a stationary target mind you - from the hilltop south of Bravo, I usually miss 1 out of 6 shots. That is a 16% miss ratio against a stationary target from a stationary position from a distance of about 50-60 meters. Accuracy is TERRIBLE with these things. Incidentally, if I can land 4 shots - a full clip - the CRU dies, so if I miss a shot I have to reload, standing there waving my junk in the air while I wait. With only 16 shots in TOTAL available, it doesn't take long to blow through the entire amount of ammo.

In short, forge guns need a buff if anything. If i could reliably hit stationary targets I'd be happy.

EDIT fixed my crappy math

My girlfriend uses Forge Guns.

She's used one at range against a tank. You still have to lead the target.

It's not instant hit. And against fast-moving Dropships, it ISN'T easy to hit. Get better at keeping yourself actually moving.

What you fail to realize is if the drop ship is constantly moving it cant hit anything the gunners have an exceedingly hard time hitting anything. This means the Drop ship does need to be stationary or at least slow moving in order to do any damage to anything. This therefore means that it is open season for a forge gun user and as they rip through the dropships it's an easy kill.

Get better isn't a decent response to a post if you can't come up with a decent argument then you may as well not discuss anything. I am a fairly decent pilot I have been complimented on many occasions. My gunners have had very good scores and been at the top of the scoreboard while I as a pilot sit down at the bottom. Now to be knocked out of the sky while using a ship that costs almost 200K isk per ship is a little harrowing to say the lease especially if its in 2 shots from a weapon carried by a foot soldier!

This weapon needs a nerf and you know it does.

It is more or less. the time taken from shot to hit is fractional and if you track a vehicle you can easily hit it without moving the reticule off of the target. For me that is an instant hit.

What you fail to realize is if the drop ship is constantly moving it cant hit anything the gunners have an exceedingly hard time hitting anything. This means the Drop ship does need to be stationary or at least slow moving in order to do any damage to anything. This therefore means that it is open season for a forge gun user and as they rip through the dropships it's an easy kill.