C4 isn't thrown it is attached to the object that it is ment to destroy then detonated by remote. Adding a timer (like we have heard) should fix this issue, also making it so it can't be thrown as far as a grenade will help as well. The RE should have to be placed on the vehicle by the user, that is part of the risk/reward system.

There is no physical law in this Universe that states C4 cannot be thrown at something and then detonated.

P.S. If you have REs that can be thrown as far as a grenade can you please tell me where I can get some?

you should have learned by now how to manage / counter the tactic of the player using them. Try running them yourself.

I find my blow you the **** up tactic is less effective recently because, MOST PLAYERS, have learned and are smart enough to be mindful of the trap that is being set. They are paranoid at all times. They back up. They predict the trap placement and move just outside of what may be laying around that corner.

most of the time when I'm confronted with a player who knows how to counter my movements to blow them up, ends up in me dying and them living.

If you (or your entire group lol) can't see the the person your chasing down who is running backwards with no gun, is throwing a RE at your feet, then you are probably at fault for still deciding the chase them down.

edit: on the topic of friendly fire, yes RE should damage friendlies. It is a shame they do not.

Agreed. Remote Explosives should be placed, activated, & then remotely detonated. They should be used for future ambushes. They should NOT be used as an excuse for someone having no skill with a weapon in the middle of a gunfight to get a cheap kill. If I get killed by a remote explosive placed on a hacking location (A, B, C) then thats my fault & I respect that kill. If I get killed by a remote explosive by spawning onto it without any chance of defending myself or even moving I respect that kill as that is the developers' fault for having such a centralized spawning point. However when I get killed by a person thats losing a gunfight & decides to guarantee his victory by chucking a series of remote explosives at me thats where I draw the line.

My problem ISN'T that remote explosives exist. My problem is with people using them as grenades. If all people are going to do is just throw them as a skill-less way to get cheap kills you might as well just remove grenades & replace them with remote explosives, (the thought of being in a game where everyone has remote explosives should scare everyone). The fact that so many people that have remote explosives use their remote explosives like grenades instead of grenades like grenades should also mean something. Remote Explosives are dangerous enough by themselves without the ability to be thrown.

As far as most infuriating deaths go for me, thrown remote explosives beat out spawn kills & aircraft kills (bouncing aircraft & parked aircraft ontop of towers). Everytime I've died by a thrown remote explosive I've known I would have won that engagement had my oponent not pulled out that last second, effortless, miracle play. Well, here's to hoping for more civilized murderings in the next build.

{rant concluded}.

This thread will become more or less irrelevant when the new build comes out, which is (rumored) to be next weekend.
I'm more concerned about quickscopers, as I had my first encounter with one in Biomass on Amubsh.

I think I died the 1st week of this build from REs that's it. Cause I use common sense.

1. If your letter is getting capped DON'T SPAWN ON IT. If you don't die from an RE, you will die from a tank, shotgun or any other form of gun.

2. Don't run straight forward like a jackass towards someone. Guns have range. Use it.

3. Don't follow a guy around a corner. Go wide. Chances are it will save you in a number of situations.

Oh look you nerfed the weapons yourself.

And the reason why people use them instead of nades is because you pick when to detonate. You hit a button when you want to blow them up. You don't have to throw them and pray the enemy stands on it for 4-5 seconds.

Please let me know when the smg has more than a ten yard range

RE are used by folks with no gun game.

I love remote explosives, cheap scout suit, add extenders, run around the map going KA BOOOOM!

That said, please bear in mind that we are balancing items based on player behaviours and forum discussions, but removing items from the game seems a tad extreme wouldn't you say?

Bingo this guy is right. Don't get me wrong throwing down a RE before you die to score a kill is a cop out to me. but than again sometimes the players are dumb.

examples

1. chasing someone that has RE's dumb and i hope you get blown to hell

2. not checking ab or c before you hack it dumb BOOOM! (you can toss a grenade and it will make the RE's go boom so you dont go boom.)

The coming nerf is an ill-thought-out-knee-jerk reaction that will solve nothing other then making a weapon useless. If your thought is scout suits using them is OP due to their speed then adjusting scout speed, which is happening, is the fix. Slightly adjusting the damage RE's do so one cannot take out a heavy suit with one explosive would be another potential fix. The planned fix, however, is stupid. Simple as that.

P.S. Tech Ohm Eaven, the SMG has a much further range then 10 yards... I am, however, sure that you know this.

Smgs are secondary, carry a mil ar if you use a smg as a primary