as far as i know, Dust will not be a one minute man, one hitter quitter or whatever else you want to call it. they are not EA or Activision and not trying to make the same game over and over and over and over and over and over and over again because its easy, boring and people are dumb enough to buy it again and again and again and again. this game will be around for years like Eve. as far as i'm aware, Dust will be on the PS4.

when crying about exactly what is or isn't in the game yet, just know this. CCP will not stop supporting Dust, and Dust nor Eve will ever stop growing.

dont continue to put the game down because you dont think its going to be a major hit because you dont like the beta. MMO's grow, which means it needs TLC, not rushing to keep giving you the same game, slightly different name, each year.

also, as far as i'm aware, there will be different areas of the game, different levels of PVP and PVE as well. if you dont like certain things then choose to stay away from those things.

this is a beta and not to be confused with the final product, i do not believe this represents the final product. if you dont like the beta, then dont play it. put in your .02 and leave, dont be talkin garbage cause it left a bad taste in your mouth

and the crowd goes wild....... +1

And yet the people that use the "It's a beta" term are the first one's to leave when a game goes "gold". Why? Because the bugs that were complained about were not fixed.

I use the "it's a beta" line when the devs have already acknowledged the problem, and when someone is saying they're "quitting" because "the game is broken" when it's not even finished yet.

I'm backing up those same points when they're made in a rational manner, and sometimes saying "yes, this is a problem, but CCP have time to fix it" when it's worth doing so.

Not all of the "it's a beta" crowd are saying it's ok for the game to be in the same state on release.

It's also a legitimate argument against people saying the game is boring, because it's NOT A GAME, IT'S A BETA. It's here for TESTING, not for FUN. Although a slight increase in the fun factor might be nice for some of us...

+1

And if I may add.. endlessly ranting in team voice chat about things everyone knows are broken is NOT what team speak is for. We can't fix these problems, and we'd probably agree with you if you were cool about it. But, if people ask you to shut up, it's not an invitation to go deeper into nerdrage.

But... but... as long as I'm on the enemies teamspeak I should go into a nerdrage right? Just because there is a mental part in warfare! And me "lalalallalalalalalalalalallallaaaalalalalalalalalLALALALLALALALAlalalalalala"ing is the way to interfere with there tactical discussion :)

If no one plays the game then whats the point in supporting it? Where's the money in that?

Some of you really don't understand how the business side of making games effects the type of products we receive. Its just a dream to make games to suit all niches but this is a niche product that is free, if EVE takes any hit profit wise CCP is dead in the water, its an incredibly risky business strategy this and they'll find a way to make money out of Dust for sure through pay to win.

Some of you really do live in a dream world, perhaps if beta testers were more grounded and actually knew about the business side more they would be more effective because its fair to say this game is heading for a very short future. This game requires console gamers to devote all their gaming experience towards it which will never happen, we all crave to play different games, a game like this demands too much from its audience.

This would be a great pc, but its going to sink like the titanic on console.

This game requires console gamers to devote all their gaming experience towards it which will never happen, we all crave to play different games, a game like this demands too much from its audience.

@Garret
You have to play everyday, or be left behind, as you can't just catch up on your day off. It is asking for a huge commitment. Imagine what going and playing another game for 2 months would do to your character.

So at say 200 SP a day 2 months leaves you 6million SP down. 200kSP is quite a reasonable figure for 24/7 game heads

I use the "it's a beta" line when the devs have already acknowledged the problem, and when someone is saying they're "quitting" because "the game is broken" when it's not even finished yet.

I'm backing up those same points when they're made in a rational manner, and sometimes saying "yes, this is a problem, but CCP have time to fix it" when it's worth doing so.

Not all of the "it's a beta" crowd are saying it's ok for the game to be in the same state on release.

It's also a legitimate argument against people saying the game is boring, because it's NOT A GAME, IT'S A BETA. It's here for TESTING, not for FUN. Although a slight increase in the fun factor might be nice for some of us...

As for the money side, Dust is just another tool for CCP to make money out of EVE. The AUR purchases are just sugar coting.

as far as i know, Dust will not be a one minute man, one hitter quitter or whatever else you want to call it. they are not EA or Activision and not trying to make the same game over and over and over and over and over and over and over again because its easy, boring and people are dumb enough to buy it again and again and again and again. this game will be around for years like Eve. as far as i'm aware, Dust will be on the PS4.

when crying about exactly what is or isn't in the game yet, just know this. CCP will not stop supporting Dust, and Dust nor Eve will ever stop growing.

dont continue to put the game down because you dont think its going to be a major hit because you dont like the beta. MMO's grow, which means it needs TLC, not rushing to keep giving you the same game, slightly different name, each year.

also, as far as i'm aware, there will be different areas of the game, different levels of PVP and PVE as well. if you dont like certain things then choose to stay away from those things.

this is a beta and not to be confused with the final product, i do not believe this represents the final product. if you dont like the beta, then dont play it. put in your .02 and leave, dont be talkin garbage cause it left a bad taste in your mouth

There's a lot of blind faith that CCP will fix all our concerns.

I use the "it's a beta" line when the devs have already acknowledged the problem, and when someone is saying they're "quitting" because "the game is broken" when it's not even finished yet.

I'm backing up those same points when they're made in a rational manner, and sometimes saying "yes, this is a problem, but CCP have time to fix it" when it's worth doing so.

Not all of the "it's a beta" crowd are saying it's ok for the game to be in the same state on release.

It's also a legitimate argument against people saying the game is boring, because it's NOT A GAME, IT'S A BETA. It's here for TESTING, not for FUN. Although a slight increase in the fun factor might be nice for some of us...

If no one plays the game then whats the point in supporting it? Where's the money in that?

Some of you really don't understand how the business side of making games effects the type of products we receive. Its just a dream to make games to suit all niches but this is a niche product that is free, if EVE takes any hit profit wise CCP is dead in the water, its an incredibly risky business strategy this and they'll find a way to make money out of Dust for sure through pay to win.

Some of you really do live in a dream world, perhaps if beta testers were more grounded and actually knew about the business side more they would be more effective because its fair to say this game is heading for a very short future. This game requires console gamers to devote all their gaming experience towards it which will never happen, we all crave to play different games, a game like this demands too much from its audience.

This would be a great pc, but its going to sink like the titanic on console.

I would agree with you a few years ago, before I discovered EVE. Back then I thought the same of PC games. That nothing lives forever and that the type of game EVE is could never exist because of a very low player base.
I was wrong. EVE lives and is kicking strong.

I believe Dust might bring the same kind of revolution to the console as well. Of course this is just speculation but I have faith in CCP. They did it once, they can do it again.

As for the money side, Dust is just another tool for CCP to make money out of EVE. The AUR purchases are just sugar coting.

There is only ONE problem... Most console players are of the 'instant gratification' /casual' breed, especially with their shooters! DUST 514 is going to require some heavy investing to suit your merc to your liking. That of which the majority of console gamers aren't that all into. DUST 514 would flourish on pc! But will most likely FLOP on console because of that ONE tiny reason.

There is only ONE problem... Most console players are of the 'instant gratification' /casual' breed, especially with their shooters! DUST 514 is going to require some heavy investing to suit your merc to your liking. That of which the majority of console gamers aren't that all into. DUST 514 would flourish on pc! But will most likely FLOP on console because of that ONE tiny reason.

The last thing you want to tell a gaming consumer that a VIDEO GAME is not for FUN! That is a ridiculous statement to make. A game should always be fun. Then otherwise why play it?!?! You people are annoying who say that! If you want testing your video GAME to be a pain in the ass chore, then pay me for my time. Just like any other job in the world.

And yet the people that use the "It's a beta" term are the first one's to leave when a game goes "gold". Why? Because the bugs that were complained about were not fixed.

As a console gamer, I can safely say I know a lot of other console gamers who WANT a game that encourages greater investment in their character and the gameworld.

Nobody else is doing it, and CCP have a free product that's offering us what we want. If they deliver, we'll be sticking around.

I applaud CCP for creating a game as deep and complex as this FOR THE CONSOLE.! I dont play PC games b/c i'm at the computer all day. However, i easily get bored with the 'instant gratification' games. In fact, i don't ordinarily play FPS at all, because they are mostly shallow and predictable. Kudos to CCP.

We're not PLAYING a game. We're TESTING a BETA. The problems that make the beta not fun are (mostly) the things we need to point out to the developers we're testing for. They're NOT a reason to "quit" the game over. THEY'RE THE REASON WE'RE HERE.