DUST Search - Kill Feed/ Kill cam

mandrill the red wrote:

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

mandrill the red wrote:

No. No killcam, I'm dubious about the killfeed too.

This is not a game about getting individual revenge on someone who sniped you. It's a TEAM based tactical shooter. Put the data about who killed who with what in the API for killboards and such, but don't have it in game, it encourages lone-wolfism which this game is not about. You wanna be a lone-wolf? GBTCoD ;D

If you know where you were when you died, and have a decent idea where you were shot from, you can pass on the details of that to someone else on your team who's near the area - give them warning of a good sniper or let them know there's a weakened enemy SMG guy in the area.

We already have that though. Does the person who killed you not get marked on your hud? Just hold off on hitting the respawn button (an alien concept to many CoD players who want to get back in the action asap. I know, I've done it myself) and communicate their location (if it's in your field of view) to your team-mates.

That being said I very rarely hear anyone on comms actually saying anything useful, same with CoD and BF3. In these beta battles it doesn't really matter that much but it will when the fate of an alliance hangs on whether you win or lose.

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DonRodie II 14	Posted - 2012.07.19 23:08:00 - [1] - Quote I would really like to know who killed me, rather it is the kill feed or kill cam. I can't see who killed me. When I look at the kill feed I'm either too fast or too slow and I miss who shot me. It would be cool if it was easier to see.
Randrii Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 121	Posted - 2012.07.19 23:15:00 - [2] - Quote Make kill feed easier to see, yes. make kill cam,NONONONONNONONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONONONONO
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 153	Posted - 2012.07.19 23:20:00 - [3] - Quote "too fast or too slow". As soon as you die, look up in the top right. It's not that hard. As for killcam, hell no.
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.07.19 23:26:00 - [4] - Quote When you're waiting for respawn a dismissable window could overlay the map showing who killed you, his stats, and other stuff.
Wynn80 43	Posted - 2012.07.19 23:28:00 - [5] - Quote Not a fan of kill cams it tells people where you are I see it as being cheap, and this from a support then gets his head knock off his shoulders all the time by snipers.
Maken Tosch 263	Posted - 2012.07.19 23:29:00 - [6] - Quote There is already a kill feed on the upper right corner of the screen the moment you die. It tells who shot you and with what. As for the idea of a kill cam, NO. You already have the directional circle telling you the "general" direction the shots came from. What more do people want these days?
GAGAH-BOY Brazil 4	Posted - 2012.07.19 23:33:00 - [7] - Quote 1 - Improve the trail of shots to get the spot whence the shots 2 - Only show the side where you killed the same MAG. 3 - If you are killed by the same person three times appear in Killcam.
Ayures0 259	Posted - 2012.07.19 23:35:00 - [8] - Quote GAGAH-BOY Brazil wrote: 1 - Improve the trail of shots to get the spot whence the shots 2 - Only show the side where you killed the same MAG. 3 - If you are killed by the same person three times appear in Killcam. If you're killed by the same person three times, it's your own damn fault.
Maken Tosch 263	Posted - 2012.07.19 23:36:00 - [9] - Quote GAGAH-BOY Brazil wrote: 1 - Improve the trail of shots to get the spot whence the shots 2 - Only show the side where you killed the same MAG. 3 - If you are killed by the same person three times appear in Killcam. No kill cam... period. Kill cam = Screen hacking.
Mike Gunnzito 111	Posted - 2012.07.19 23:39:00 - [10] - Quote No kill cam, although you should be able to rotate the camera if you downed, to look around. As others said, there's already a kill feed.

Zael Jacues 4	Posted - 2012.07.19 23:39:00 - [11] - Quote Fivetimes Infinity wrote: When you're waiting for respawn a dismissable window could overlay the map showing who killed you, his stats, and other stuff. I don't find this idea terrible. Basically, show the public profile of the person in question if called on. If he's becoming a nemesis on the battle field, this information might be good to know. Kill cams? Nah.
Maken Tosch 263	Posted - 2012.07.19 23:46:00 - [12] - Quote Zael Jacues wrote: Fivetimes Infinity wrote: When you're waiting for respawn a dismissable window could overlay the map showing who killed you, his stats, and other stuff. I don't find this idea terrible. Basically, show the public profile of the person in question if called on. If he's becoming a nemesis on the battle field, this information might be good to know. Kill cams? Nah. Eve has a similar system going for it. www.Eve-Kill.net There are also kill reports built into Eve (look in your character sheet under "combat" log). Both of these tools provide information as to what ships were involved, what fittings were used by the "victim" (the winner's fitting is never shown) and what the value of the ship and modules were. The same could apply in Dust.
DonRodie II 14	Posted - 2012.07.20 01:09:00 - [13] - Quote Fivetimes Infinity wrote: When you're waiting for respawn a dismissable window could overlay the map showing who killed you, his stats, and other stuff. True thats what we need. Kind of like planetside 2 has.
Poultryge1st NECROMONGER'S 1	Posted - 2012.07.20 01:10:00 - [14] - Quote +1 For having kill reports in dust! Similar to eve's reports!
DonRodie II 14	Posted - 2012.07.20 01:12:00 - [15] - Quote To be honest I dont like kill cams either
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2012.07.20 02:00:00 - [16] - Quote No.
Raelar Knight Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.07.20 03:42:00 - [17] - Quote I tend to agree that the Kill feed is rather small and from my distance to TV I have to really refocus to see it and blink its gone. Increasing its visibility somehow would be nice. Agree with Kill Cams being intrusive. There should be a creative way to help nudge your sense of wtf just happened to you but let's not spoil all the fun. Another way Dust could be different, by not copying others but innovating a bit.
MR ExPresident ZionTCD Legacy Rising 64	Posted - 2012.07.20 03:47:00 - [18] - Quote Absolutely no kill cam. I would like to see, like others have mentioned, a screen overlay. I think it would be cool if it could display: - who killed you - there rank or whatever - their current load out that they killed you with - what you lost by dieting The last one is just like that last kick in the balls when you remembered you were using that really cool item or expensive gear. If the overlay can't show each item in your load out it would be cool if it said "This clone costed you X isk." I think that would be cool.
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.07.20 03:48:00 - [19] - Quote DonRodie II wrote: I would really like to know who killed me, rather it is the kill feed or kill cam. I can't see who killed me. When I look at the kill feed I'm either too fast or too slow and I miss who shot me. It would be cool if it was easier to see. no that **** is for scrubs, you already have constant radar
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.20 03:56:00 - [20] - Quote Kill feed messages don't stay visible for long enough. Any complaint beyond that is carebear territory. You have directional damage indicators, and you have scanners telling you where everybody is. If that's not enough for you, get more practice.

DON RODIE II Deep Space Republic 168	Posted - 2012.07.20 08:22:00 - [21] - Quote MR ExPresident wrote: Absolutely no kill cam. I would like to see, like others have mentioned, a screen overlay. I think it would be cool if it could display: - who killed you - there rank or whatever - their current load out that they killed you with - what you lost by dieting The last one is just like that last kick in the balls when you remembered you were using that really cool item or expensive gear. If the overlay can't show each item in your load out it would be cool if it said "This clone costed you X isk." I think that would be cool. This is a very good idea
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.20 08:53:00 - [22] - Quote i'd like a final kill cam showing the last kill of the game to everyone regardless of how epic or incredibility stupid the kill may turn out to be.
Zerlathon Algintal Core Gallente Federation 213	Posted - 2012.07.20 09:06:00 - [23] - Quote Kill Cam.... BIG FAT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Needless Sacermendor 98	Posted - 2012.07.20 09:35:00 - [24] - Quote Leaving the kill feed as is would be fine, then when you die a larger font bolder 'You were downed by X's AR' above the O to Suicide. Simple enough, I too would like to see the full kill-mail system implemented but if not already in development it may have to wait for post release.
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.07.20 09:43:00 - [25] - Quote when alot of stuff is happening the kill cam can get delayed or rushed through so what i would like to see is a small window popping up like the eve kill mails showing your fit the cost and who did what damage and with what weapons for no evers it looks like this http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14018056 ( i linked the KM so you can see the amount of isk some people have in eve so when we get a bonus mil isk its like meh we dont need it to be this complicated just something to look at while you are waiting for the respawn timer
Jace Kane Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 21	Posted - 2012.07.20 10:09:00 - [26] - Quote Kill Cam? Get out of here with that crap. The killfeed and directional indicator are already holding your hand...you want more? How about we have the game tell us what the guy that just killed you is wearing, what his size shoe is and what he ate for lunch. LoL Kids these days! :-)
Sabastian Malone Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2012.07.20 10:13:00 - [27] - Quote The problem with the killfeed (if I remember correctly) is that the screen gets pretty white as soon as you die, making it very difficult to read.
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:20:00 - [28] - Quote No kill cam
VigSniper101 204	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:23:00 - [29] - Quote One of the few things l hated about my fave shooter, Warhawk...was the Killcam. If someone kills me..be it 10ft or 1000ft....they killed me, they dont deserved to be punished by having their spot revealed. .....And vice versa
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:30:00 - [30] - Quote How do you explain kill cam lore wise? Now I wouldnt mind if like the body slumped the camera twoard the direction of cause of death but thats as far as Ill go with it. Now as for the toast as somone suggested where they display the guys name stats and weapon he used I wouldnt mind that either. Also i wouldnt mind it if was POST battle not during. there should be battle recorders with good camera controls and video editing ability.

Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2012.07.26 22:48:00 - [31] - Quote MR ExPresident wrote: Absolutely no kill cam. I would like to see, like others have mentioned, a screen overlay. I think it would be cool if it could display: - who killed you - there rank or whatever - their current load out that they killed you with - what you lost by dieting The last one is just like that last kick in the balls when you remembered you were using that really cool item or expensive gear. If the overlay can't show each item in your load out it would be cool if it said "This clone costed you X isk." I think that would be cool. No fittings of the person who killed you. Period. Knowing what kind of gun or weapon I used is one thing, but my fitting are my own and you should not be rewarded with it because you died. Rewards are for winners, not the people who die. You want to know my fitting, kill me or ask, just as I will kill or ask you. As for what you lose by dieting, that is usually weight. I don't need Dust to tell me I weigh less. As for showing what you lost when you die, this does happen with CCP in Eve, and I suspect it will happen here once the Kill Reports are available.
Frank Devine ZionTCD Legacy Rising 107	Posted - 2012.07.27 01:31:00 - [32] - Quote DonRodie II wrote: I would really like to know who killed me, rather it is the kill feed or kill cam. I can't see who killed me. When I look at the kill feed I'm either too fast or too slow and I miss who shot me. It would be cool if it was easier to see. **** no! You want that go back to COD.
Randrii Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 121	Posted - 2012.07.27 02:04:00 - [33] - Quote This is what should appear while you wait the 8 seconds. Go to 30:14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLakXgelJGY
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.07.27 02:39:00 - [34] - Quote As far as I recall, CCP is planning on having the Kill Mail system be very similar to that of EVE.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.27 06:53:00 - [35] - Quote a kill cam is one of the few things that would instantly ruin this game beyond repair....
jenza aranda BetaMax. 1005	Posted - 2012.07.27 07:18:00 - [36] - Quote im also signing no for kill cam, i always hated in shooters that killing someone basically shows where they are hiding.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.27 07:28:00 - [37] - Quote game needs a final kill cam. Everybody likes to see how the last guy got himself killed.
Surtur Reaperson Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 49	Posted - 2012.07.27 07:52:00 - [38] - Quote Mike Gunnzito wrote: No kill cam, although you should be able to rotate the camera if you downed, to look around. As others said, there's already a kill feed. This
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.27 09:17:00 - [39] - Quote All we need is for the kill feed notifications to stay visible for longer.
mandrill the red Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 21	Posted - 2012.07.27 09:20:00 - [40] - Quote No. No killcam, I'm dubious about the killfeed too. This is not a game about getting individual revenge on someone who sniped you. It's a TEAM based tactical shooter. Put the data about who killed who with what in the API for killboards and such, but don't have it in game, it encourages lone-wolfism which this game is not about. You wanna be a lone-wolf? GBTCoD ;D

Heinz Doofenshertz BetaMax. 360	Posted - 2012.07.27 09:30:00 - [41] - Quote Yeah, no data, no info in game. you want info on who killed you and with what, an AAR is what you want. not more crap to deal with while the CRU is getting you back to taking peoples planets
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.27 10:34:00 - [42] - Quote mandrill the red wrote: No. No killcam, I'm dubious about the killfeed too. This is not a game about getting individual revenge on someone who sniped you. It's a TEAM based tactical shooter. Put the data about who killed who with what in the API for killboards and such, but don't have it in game, it encourages lone-wolfism which this game is not about. You wanna be a lone-wolf? GBTCoD ;D If you know where you were when you died, and have a decent idea where you were shot from, you can pass on the details of that to someone else on your team who's near the area - give them warning of a good sniper or let them know there's a weakened enemy SMG guy in the area.
mandrill the red Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 21	Posted - 2012.07.27 12:42:00 - [43] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: mandrill the red wrote: No. No killcam, I'm dubious about the killfeed too. This is not a game about getting individual revenge on someone who sniped you. It's a TEAM based tactical shooter. Put the data about who killed who with what in the API for killboards and such, but don't have it in game, it encourages lone-wolfism which this game is not about. You wanna be a lone-wolf? GBTCoD ;D If you know where you were when you died, and have a decent idea where you were shot from, you can pass on the details of that to someone else on your team who's near the area - give them warning of a good sniper or let them know there's a weakened enemy SMG guy in the area. We already have that though. Does the person who killed you not get marked on your hud? Just hold off on hitting the respawn button (an alien concept to many CoD players who want to get back in the action asap. I know, I've done it myself) and communicate their location (if it's in your field of view) to your team-mates. That being said I very rarely hear anyone on comms actually saying anything useful, same with CoD and BF3. In these beta battles it doesn't really matter that much but it will when the fate of an alliance hangs on whether you win or lose.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.27 13:15:00 - [44] - Quote mandrill the red wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: mandrill the red wrote: No. No killcam, I'm dubious about the killfeed too. This is not a game about getting individual revenge on someone who sniped you. It's a TEAM based tactical shooter. Put the data about who killed who with what in the API for killboards and such, but don't have it in game, it encourages lone-wolfism which this game is not about. You wanna be a lone-wolf? GBTCoD ;D If you know where you were when you died, and have a decent idea where you were shot from, you can pass on the details of that to someone else on your team who's near the area - give them warning of a good sniper or let them know there's a weakened enemy SMG guy in the area. We already have that though. Does the person who killed you not get marked on your hud? Just hold off on hitting the respawn button (an alien concept to many CoD players who want to get back in the action asap. I know, I've done it myself) and communicate their location (if it's in your field of view) to your team-mates. That being said I very rarely hear anyone on comms actually saying anything useful, same with CoD and BF3. In these beta battles it doesn't really matter that much but it will when the fate of an alliance hangs on whether you win or lose. I don't get my killer marked on my HUD unless I can already see them, or they walk into line of sight after I went down. And without the kill feed, all I can give is "there's someone at X" or sometimes no more than "I died at X" - having a reliable kill feed (I still think the current one fades too fast) would mean I can consistently pass on "I died at X to someone with Y" and warn my team about HOW I died so a properly-equipped teammate can move in to avenge me.
ROIZENGH Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2012.07.27 13:33:00 - [45] - Quote The kill feed is way too fast, and a say NO to kill cam!!
Deskalkulos Ildigan CrimeWave Syndicate 115	Posted - 2012.07.27 15:03:00 - [46] - Quote If you lie on the ground bleeding to death, you shouldn't be able to tell anyone that theres someone behind you. If he managed to kill you without being seen by you, he deserves going undetected (as in not marked on radar/minimap) for another kill. Obviously a no for kill cam.
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2012.07.27 18:48:00 - [47] - Quote No kill cam, or if you have to make it a toggable option
Super Cargo Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 428	Posted - 2012.07.27 18:58:00 - [48] - Quote Randrii wrote: Make kill feed easier to see, yes. make kill cam,NONONONONNONONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONONONONO QFT


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