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Nate Silverley
Rebelles A Quebec
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Posted - 2012.07.19 15:09:00 -
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NOTE: This thread is launching the [BRAINSTORM] subject header, where we contribute to feeding CCP with new ideas for game components.
ONE RULE: Never say "no" to an idea.-á
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LET'S START WITH THIS: If we had to come up with a "basic" weapon that's better than the knife, what could this weapon be ?
A few ideas:
The EMP Burst Injector
Some kind of single-use hand weapon that delivers an EMP burst that incapacitates the target for 5 seconds but doesn't kill said target.-á
The Slasher
A retractable laser whip that you slash at enemies, at short range. Deadly. |
Thorn Altiare
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Posted - 2012.07.19 15:19:00 -
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Those electric gloves used in Legend of Korra instead of a knife... Get with the picture CCP this isnt Rambo! Hi tech guns and rail guns and we still have to use a knife for melee :P
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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.07.19 15:37:00 -
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Nate Silverley wrote:
The EMP Burst Injector
Some kind of single-use hand weapon that delivers an EMP burst that incapacitates the target for 5 seconds but doesn't kill said target.-á
interesting, 5 seconds seems kinda long though, maybe 2 seconds to start and then add a second as you level up |
Mogar Bobac
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2012.07.19 16:41:00 -
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The Blades from Predator of course with a nova outline to it. A short sword roman legion sytle or halo legendary difficulty style. Throwing knife or star. Counter nanite injector. Slowly deteriorates your armor/ not your shield for a set amount of dmg. A kick to the face |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.07.19 16:46:00 -
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Melee with weapon to stun/disorientate starting at 1 second and increase length with increases skill.
You mean to tell me a little knife can hurt these suits...naa, not a regular knife. Maybe a "light saber" or laser type of knife
disregard ^^
http://www.dust514.org/item-database/item/zn-28-nova-knife?category_id=5 |
Fuma Centuri
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
107
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Posted - 2012.07.19 16:47:00 -
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BOOT! Instead of a puny Nova Knife, you use your military boots to KICK the opponent Duke Nukem-Style. This is only available when reloading and makes the enemy go back 3 steps and disables their aim for 3 seconds, allowing you to reload. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.19 16:51:00 -
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Nova spork ftw. |
Anatoly Gasputin
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.07.19 18:02:00 -
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I like the EMP burst, but with like 1 sec stun time. But as any true Amarrian I must say that the laser sounds nice too.  |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.07.19 18:04:00 -
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I think they should replace the slow-responding glitchy-hit-detection knife with a faster-swinging knife that hits properly and actually provides some measure of feedback to the player when it hits. |
Asher Night
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
79
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Posted - 2012.07.19 20:22:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:I think they should replace the slow-responding glitchy-hit-detection knife with a faster-swinging knife that hits properly and actually provides some measure of feedback to the player when it hits.
I don't like this idea. It's too clich'e. What else ya got?  |
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Angavu Vulgaris
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.19 21:42:00 -
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A melee attack that messes up their aim/balance and knocks them back/down, depending on relative size.
Make the knife a selectable weapon and increase its attack speed/strength in return. |
Scott DNB
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.07.20 02:11:00 -
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Hows bout a nice kick to the groin.  Have a nice little animation from victim say 2 secs imobolized.  |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.07.20 02:20:00 -
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I think a whip that would wrap around the target and then provide an extremely high voltage burst of electricity. would immediately take out 90% shields, and knock your opponent off balance (not disable them, just make it very hard to aim) for a second or two. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.07.20 04:49:00 -
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Nanite Injected Fragmentation Explosives - Stab, inject, boom. |
Zarkn Frood
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.07.20 05:08:00 -
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Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Nanite Injected Fragmentation Explosives - Stab, inject, boom.
I like the idea of poisons or 'toxic' doses of stimulants.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.07.20 06:13:00 -
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Plasma Cutter.
Basically a construction tool. Constant MASSIVE damage over time on all enemies within 0.5m of the wielder. Can overheat with prolonged use.
Monofilament Lattice.
Instead of a solid blade, this weapon would project out nanotech-constructed metal fibres in a spherical pattern, surrounding a target and carving through armour. Only moderate damage, and a cooldown before it can be used again, but IGNORES SHIELDS.
Phase blade.
THis would be a monofilament blade with an advanced harmonic disruptor built into the blade. On contact with a shielded target, the device would automatically emit a harmonic frequency that allows for massive shield damage. Unfortunately, because it's little more than an insanely sharp (with nanites auto-repairing the blade to keep it sharp) metal blade, it would be of minimal value against armour. |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
194
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Posted - 2012.07.20 09:31:00 -
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Simply....
HOIST ... I can go at lat at top of this @#%@#% towers and make peace.... |
Khun-Al
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Posted - 2012.07.20 10:03:00 -
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Just one word: Wolverine claws |
Chihiro Itto
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Posted - 2012.07.20 14:30:00 -
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I had a similar idea to the EMP in an earlier thread:
Chihiro Itto wrote:An alternative to the knife mechanic might be a single-use (per clone, or limited by slot like other equipment) hand weapon that you use up close like a knife but that shorts out dropsuits and freezes the victim for a few seconds.
That gives you a bonus/advantage for getting up close (which is half the point of a melee attack anyway) but doesn't do any great damage (alternatively it could do major shield damage but not break armour). Get a successful hit and you could then drop a grenade, RE, pull a gun and get free shots at point-blank range, stop a capture mid-hack or if you are otherwise weapon-less, take to your heels and get the **** out of dodge before you get gacked. Call it the Neuro-spike maybe.
Anatoly Gasputin wrote:I like the EMP burst, but with like 1 sec stun time.
It needs to be longer than 1 second though - it's supposed to give you an advantage for getting in close, so after you use it what else are you going to do in one second? I'd say 2-4 seconds would be ok - if you want to attack it would take 1-2 secs just to switch from the Neuro-spike/EMP to a different weapon (unless you use a grenade), so you then have 1-2 seconds to do your worst against your defenceless enemy. Or run away. |
Ender Storm
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:20:00 -
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Given the nature of our suits i would say any kin of eletronical burst or even an eletrical discharge that "fries" the suit and its ocupant are better and more believable alternatives for the mercs to use in a field fight.
Tey having a knife and trying to stab an armoured and shielded guy dosent seem very effective. |
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gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:48:00 -
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I've said once before in a thread that I would trade my knife for a sidearm since I play logistics |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:54:00 -
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Nanite Injector. |
Zarkn Frood
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.07.20 18:51:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:I think they should replace the slow-responding glitchy-hit-detection knife with a faster-swinging knife that hits properly and actually provides some measure of feedback to the player when it hits.
I agree, no replacement is really necessary, it just needs to be working properly. |
Nate Silverley
Rebelles A Quebec
140
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Posted - 2012.07.21 14:11:00 -
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Zarkn Frood wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:I think they should replace the slow-responding glitchy-hit-detection knife with a faster-swinging knife that hits properly and actually provides some measure of feedback to the player when it hits. I agree, no replacement is really necessary, it just needs to be working properly.
To me Dust is a game that has a right-to-win in bringing a lot of innovations to the FPS category - keeping in line with this concept, I'm sure they can do better than just a knife. |
Kitt 514
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
94
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Posted - 2012.07.21 21:46:00 -
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I'm actually impressed that I will be first here, but I feel that I must. Do this for the sake of the internet.
Nate Silverley wrote:
The EMP Burst Injector
Some kind of single-use hand weapon that delivers an EMP burst that incapacitates the target for 5 seconds but doesn't kill said target.
No
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Renzo Kuken
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
369
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Posted - 2012.07.22 04:33:00 -
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Khun-Al wrote:Just one word: Wolverine claws
thats 2 words
and i want a bottle of Jack Daniels |
Chao Wolf
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.07.22 04:40:00 -
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heavy version... Hydraulic sledgehammer takes a few seconds to swing but does massive damage  |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
291
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Posted - 2012.07.22 06:54:00 -
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a herring!
;) |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
291
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Posted - 2012.07.22 07:16:00 -
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okay, a bit more serious contribution.
Amarr 'Castigator'
An adaptation of an amarrian laser tool for military purposes, this holdout handgun contains a focusing crystal and power supply, along with a trigger switch. When fired it unleashes an intense bolt of laser energy. The drawbacks of this weapon is its very short range due to lack of any focusing system other than the crystal itself (less than 2 meters or so) and the fact that it burns out its laser focusing crystal with every shot due to the amount of power being shunted GÇô forcing the firer to replace the crystal before the next shot can be fired. The Castigator is rumored to be a weapon employed by Amarrian assassins against heretics and other enemies of the holy empire.
On the other hand, the beam causes massive damage if it hits, and a castigator bolt to a vulnerable spot (like the brainpan) may well kill the target outright (note GÇô *may*)
Just a rough idea, and not really a replacement for the knife but another weapon option to ride its slot GÇô like I said, its rough and would need idea refinement.
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Renzo Kuken
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
369
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Posted - 2012.07.22 07:22:00 -
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Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote:a herring!
;)
+1 for monty python |
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Jonny Hagendorf
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2012.07.24 02:28:00 -
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-A gaunlet arm knife / wristblade like the predator / or like robocop - with different damage ranges, depending on dropsuit / movement speed
-Every each dropsuit should have its own special mellee attack animation
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Superluminal Replicant
40
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Posted - 2012.07.24 09:24:00 -
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Light Saber |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2012.07.24 14:03:00 -
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Nova Wristblade.
Explains the instant usability. |
JONLUK167
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.07.24 14:38:00 -
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give me the choice of turning the R3 button off, I'm tired of it coming out and stopping my guns from firing.!
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Velexia Ombra
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Posted - 2012.07.24 15:29:00 -
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Nate Silverley wrote:NOTE: This thread is launching the [BRAINSTORM] subject header, where we contribute to feeding CCP with new ideas for game components.
ONE RULE: Never say "no" to an idea.-á
--
LET'S START WITH THIS: If we had to come up with a "basic" weapon that's better than the knife, what could this weapon be ?
A few ideas:
The EMP Burst Injector
Some kind of single-use hand weapon that delivers an EMP burst that incapacitates the target for 5 seconds but doesn't kill said target.-á
The Slasher
A retractable laser whip that you slash at enemies, at short range. Deadly.
I want a Katana, no really. |
Evane Sa'edi
Celtic Anarchy
62
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Posted - 2012.07.24 20:16:00 -
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Tazer Batons to deliver mega-voltage to armour system
High frequencey Vibro-swords to cut through armour plate |
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