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Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.18 05:02:00 -
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Please? |
Nexus Cavor
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.07.18 05:03:00 -
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Cleanse them with fire!
Brotherhood of Nod anyone? |
Ignatius Crumwald
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
475
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Posted - 2012.07.18 05:05:00 -
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I would rather have a ride in the candy van. |
Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
235
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Posted - 2012.07.18 05:05:00 -
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Nexus Cavor wrote:Cleanse them with fire!
Brotherhood of Nod anyone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aif9rz71CYQ |
Drax Intenin
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.18 05:07:00 -
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This would look epic but i think our shields would resist flames really easily as they already resist plasma shots which are much hotter. |
Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
235
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Posted - 2012.07.18 05:13:00 -
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Drax Intenin wrote:This would look epic but i think our shields would resist flames really easily as they already resist plasma shots which are much hotter.
Doesn't have to be fire specifically. It could be a plasma gel or something that functions like napalm but is more space age-y. A short range, area damage-over-time weapon that you'd say "hey that looks like a flamethrower." Maybe it could even stick to people for a lasting dot effect (not deadly in itself, but add a small amount of damage to someone as they run away after you just briefly pass over them). |
Nexus Cavor
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.07.18 05:39:00 -
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I personally don't think we need a flamethrower. I'd rather have ammo damage types over this... I also think it(Flamethrower) would be as useful as a poison gas grenade... We are in suits that I imagine have their own air supply and atmosphere... Not going to work.
If you want an anti-infantry tank... Fit it with turrets that shoot lots of bullets. Flames are too much of an AOE to work for anything other than clearing out an entire area. Guess what? We already have something to do that anyway... It is called an... Orbital Strike...
Wouldn't want to nerf that before we get a chance to use it now would we? |
Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
235
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Posted - 2012.07.18 06:46:00 -
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Nexus Cavor wrote:I personally don't think we need a flamethrower. I'd rather have ammo damage types over this... I also think it(Flamethrower) would be as useful as a poison gas grenade... We are in suits that I imagine have their own air supply and atmosphere... Not going to work.
If you want an anti-infantry tank... Fit it with turrets that shoot lots of bullets. Flames are too much of an AOE to work for anything other than clearing out an entire area. Guess what? We already have something to do that anyway... It is called an... Orbital Strike...
Wouldn't want to nerf that before we get a chance to use it now would we?
How is poison gas a proper comparison to something flamethrower-like? You don't need to be breathing the surrounding atmosphere to get melted. It could be some kind of superheated gel, not necessarily a literal flame. And, it doesn't have to be devastatingly powerful to compensate for its area effect, and could have limited range. It wouldn't be anywhere comparable to an orbital strike. |
Nexus Cavor
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.07.18 07:05:00 -
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I just don't see flames being super damaging to something that is heavily shielded. At least not enough to be useful.
Now if you want to talk about other things that are hotter than most fires I still see it being an issue in terms of balance/scale.
I see such a weapon as a blockade type and not much else. It would deter and force enemies to follow a different path. Or run through it and and then get picked off by weapons fire.
If such a weapon were to be added I would rather have it be a tower defense weapon instead. It would function as an effective infantry blockade unless the infantry had some form of long range AV/Anti-Defense weapon. It should also only have a 180 degree arc of fire at most. The effective weapon range should be rather short too. Enough to prevent infantry from walking through a narrow pathway in a canyon but not nearly the range of any bullet type weapon.
I don't see much else in terms of a flame type of weapon though. |
Fuma Centuri
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
107
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Posted - 2012.07.18 08:07:00 -
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Space-age flamethrower = plasma emitter. Nice idea and would surely look very awesome on the battlefield. |
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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.07.18 08:19:00 -
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Flamethrowers ? they wouldn't hurt anyone in Dust...
Wait till you'll get the lasers. And you'll forget about flames lol |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.07.18 09:51:00 -
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I would rather see a short range AOE damage weapon on the LAV, tanks are to slow to really make use of that I would think. |
Encharrion
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
104
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Posted - 2012.07.18 13:24:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:I would rather see a short range AOE damage weapon on the LAV, tanks are to slow to really make use of that I would think.
A plasma flamethrower type small turret would be AWESOME! |
Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.18 20:55:00 -
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Nexus Cavor wrote:I just don't see flames being super damaging to something that is heavily shielded. At least not enough to be useful.
It doesn't have to be super damaging, though. Its strength would be in its coating an entire area, and blocking visibility (either in as you said shooting a flame through a narrow corridor, or also covering an enemy's screen in hot death as they stand in the middle of it to disorient them). I see it being with limited range, too. Just throwing numbers out there before we'd have a chance to balance it, my gut reaction is something along the lines of:
30 hp/sec damage 10m range 15 degree area 5 hp/sec damage for 5 secs lasting effect overheats in 5 sec
Advanced/prototype variants could slightly increase any or several of those values.
Encharrion wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:I would rather see a short range AOE damage weapon on the LAV, tanks are to slow to really make use of that I would think. A plasma flamethrower type small turret would be AWESOME!
I'm in favor of there being both large and small turret versions for it. The slow tank would help balance a more damaging large turret version.
I see it more for an offensive support role for a tank. It'd be there to keep the other tanks safe from infantry getting close, but would get shot to hell by AV or another tank. The range would be limited so it wouldn't be stupidly overpowered, and if you got caught offguard, you're melted, but if you see it from a mile away, just unload as you keep your distance and you're fine. |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.07.19 00:07:00 -
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yeah I made a post on this two!
just like the tanks in C&C renegade! And game kinda played like an alpha for dust anyways! |
Icy Tiger
496
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Posted - 2012.07.19 02:17:00 -
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Ignatius Crumwald wrote:I would rather have a ride in the candy van. I recommend therapy before someone takes.....let's say "advantage" of you. |
Awiergan Snowcash
Doomheim
40
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Posted - 2012.07.19 02:28:00 -
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+1
I'd like to be able to burn out those AV grenadiers/forge gunners as they duck behind cover at extremely close range.
Teach them a thing or two about not being point-blank to a tank.
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Ray seveN
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2012.07.19 06:02:00 -
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What if it spews weaponized nanites at people? it could look like a flames and damage like fire |
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