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TabbieKat
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Posted - 2012.07.14 02:49:00 -
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I know they will be adding new suits of armor to the game for the female avatars, but I have one request. Please, OMG PLEASE do not put boobs on the Heavy Dropsuits. That would look totally dumb, maybe a slimmer design but for all intents and purposes the Male and Female Heavy Dropsuits should look almost identical.
Light suits and Pilot suits are fine to show breasts do to the lack of armor on them. Command, Assault, and Logistics maybe but all they are is a more armored version of their light suits. A friend and me who are both waiting for the female avatars and both agree that the Female Heavy Dropsuit should not have breasts.
Also when they do add the Female avatars can we have an option to change our Beta characters over from Male to Female. I would like to test those too but I really do not want to have to start from scratch just to test it out. Seeing as we are just clones it would be really simple to change chromosomes from XY to XX. |
Boss Dirge
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.14 04:09:00 -
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Wow I have to like your post just because you went there. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.07.14 05:19:00 -
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Considering we're clones designed for fighting, and fighting alone, my guess is the female builds would be rather athletic and lacking in chest size. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.07.14 05:28:00 -
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Personally I would lock genders to the PSN ID and the private user information enclosed. Meaning you do not get the choice whether or not you want to abuse the gender option or not. |
TabbieKat
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Posted - 2012.07.14 05:36:00 -
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Well I really do not know how it would be abused, there is no sex appeal to the armor. i mean it is not like an MMORPG were you have Female characters in bikinis killing giant dragons and taking almost no damage.....
OMG can you image a chick in a bikini taking out a Sagaris solo :D
I just want the armor to be logical to humans, a Female soldier on the battle field for the most part looks like a Male soldier when they are both in the same gear. |
RinTsubaki
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Posted - 2012.07.14 05:42:00 -
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i could see the lighter armors like scout having a female figure to them but i run around in my heavy and i think that should look exactly like the male maybe a lil thinner in places like my waist like and posably a lil shorter but the same and as a woman i don't see a problem with it at all and i dont care if a guy plays as a girl i play games and play as a guy so whats the big deal about the gender being locked? |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.07.14 06:06:00 -
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If the female characters are smaller then there would be an issue because they would have a smaller hitbox. So any one using a female character would have an advantage over the same male armor class. |
Zin The'tic
On The Brink
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Posted - 2012.07.14 06:13:00 -
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most female's I know, have a larger "hitbox" then me... |
RinTsubaki
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Posted - 2012.07.14 06:40:00 -
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by smaller i ment shorter not like tiny and they should have relitivly the same hit box not like a few inches will make a diffrence |
La Gris Feu
Covenant Security Solutions
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Posted - 2012.07.14 07:08:00 -
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TabbieKat wrote:Well I really do not know how it would be abused, there is no sex appeal to the armor. i mean it is not like an MMORPG were you have Female characters in bikinis killing giant dragons and taking almost no damage.....
OMG can you image a chick in a bikini taking out a Sagaris solo :D
I just want the armor to be logical to humans, a Female soldier on the battle field for the most part looks like a Male soldier when they are both in the same gear.
Forgive me then while I continue to ogle Scout's finely molded buttocks, broad shoulders, corset like lacing, and suggestive "lower back" "port". Now if only he wasn't so shy even in the privacy of his quarters that I might gawk at that shapely cod piece... Oh m'yes, that IS a lovely rifle you have there... *twirls mustache titillatingly*
*cough* On topic, I agree that the gender dimorphism of the clones should be downplayed for more of a mass produced functional and somewhat androgynous look; though I'm nearly certain that CCP already has a good sense about this sort of thing. But for the record, I personally find it borderline offensive when I am forced to endure the perpetuation of the social notion, even in my futuristic fantasy, that a woman is no good in a game unless she has perfect skin and hair, a petite, shapely (and shamelessly flaunted (I'M LOOKING AT YOU BUTT-SHOT IN 'A FUTURE VISION'!) body, and overall needs unnecessary feminine distinction for validation to the fact that she is indeed a woman. Not to mention the passive stigma of media products against athletic women, because apparently being tall and athletic just isn't pretty if it means having a less feminine fat distribution and actually possessing significant muscular strength that is relative to being realistically effective in an action and adventure setting!
And when not done for such reasons, I don't even want to get started with how I definitely do find it offensive when such things are perpetuated for the producer's desire to include it for sake of male-oriented sex appeal. Shoving it in their faces because obviously this is what they all want to see as base-minded creatures driven solely by sexual desire, alienating women or those otherwise unentertained by such visuals.
At any rate, in this setting, given the function of mercenaries it wouldn't make sense to have big busty ladykind with the huge swaying hips, lusciously plump hindquarters, then the tiny shoulders and waists, unless we want to go very realistic here and include a lowered sprint, stamina/recovery, and melee attack which frankly would not feel right to me. Of course, if it were to vary between races what males and females were like given their social ideologies and evolutionary differences that would be quite interesting and potentially very tasteful; if spawning unnecessary model additions.
Or the issue could be side-stepped altogether by using optimized uniform combat enhanced clones, and the character being however they choose to be in the respite of their down time, which seems the most sensible option to me. |
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TabbieKat
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Posted - 2012.07.14 08:12:00 -
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I agree with you La Gris Feu. Logically the clones (both male and female) would be athletic in build. Think of more like the people that compete in the Olympics. That should be the basic body type for the clones. But i will say this is also a fantasy world so making the armor feminine would also tie into it. If you look at a male in a light drop suit it should look male, and a female in a light drop suit should look female. They are basically the stripped down versions of each of the armor types. From looking at the trailers and teaser videos, they will be making a Light, Assault, Logistic, Pilot, Command, and Heavy armor for each race. The light suit being the suit all the armors wear under what ever suit they choose. The helmet and underlying suit being the only physical difference in each races armor. So as you add layers you will lose that feminine look to the armor until you get to the heavy armor and see very little to no difference in the avatar. |
RinTsubaki
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Posted - 2012.07.14 08:26:00 -
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TabbieKat wrote:I agree with you La Gris Feu. Logically the clones (both male and female) would be athletic in build. Think of more like the people that compete in the Olympics. That should be the basic body type for the clones. But i will say this is also a fantasy world so making the armor feminine would also tie into it. If you look at a male in a light drop suit it should look male, and a female in a light drop suit should look female. They are basically the stripped down versions of each of the armor types. From looking at the trailers and teaser videos, they will be making a Light, Assault, Logistic, Pilot, Command, and Heavy armor for each race. The light suit being the suit all the armors wear under what ever suit they choose. The helmet and underlying suit being the only physical difference in each races armor. So as you add layers you will lose that feminine look to the armor until you get to the heavy armor and see very little to no difference in the avatar.
i agree with you
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.07.14 08:45:00 -
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I see no problem with some bit of chest elevation to differentiate them from male heavies. It won't look weird if it isn't overdone. |
Hellhammer Tactical
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.07.14 08:52:00 -
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i once met a female marine, damn she was hot... anyway little while later i was sat with a dislocated shoulder wondering what hit me... anyway less about my fails and back to the OP.
i agree that only the light dropsuits should show any difference, clones are after all engineered to be war machines.
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RinTsubaki
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Posted - 2012.07.14 09:05:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I see no problem with some bit of chest elevation to differentiate them from male heavies. It won't look weird if it isn't overdone. well i disagree with you as a woman i don't see any reason if i was in a suit of heady armor you would see my boobs or even be able to tell me apart from a man unless i spoke and no heavy female armor dose not nor will it ever need boobs and if you think so your obviously a man |
Hellhammer Tactical
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.07.14 10:22:00 -
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guys while your checking out her chest she is filling you with lead.
personaly i think its like arguing that a Male dropsuit should have a larger codpiece... compleatly unnecessary!!!
maybe change the avatar system to something like EVE, you have a fully customisable avatar that you see when in your quaters, if you really wanted to show off you could make it so this avatar is the one seen in the prematch war room. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.07.14 10:31:00 -
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I personally don't like the idea of having a different model for the female mercs, unless the actual hit box is just as large. What I mean is, female avatars better be just as easy to shoot, it would really suck if they were a smaller target, I have enough trouble with the DS3 as it is... :s |
RinTsubaki
7
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Posted - 2012.07.14 21:45:00 -
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did i ever say make the hit box smaller no i said make them smaller just enough that you can tell but keep the hit box the same men never listen. XD jk honestly though don't assume things it would be unfair if the females had a smaller hit box and i like things as fair as they can be. i can own you just as well as any man i only look better doing it. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.07.14 21:48:00 -
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Hellhammer Tactical wrote:guys while your checking out her chest she is filling you with lead.
personaly i think its like arguing that a Male dropsuit should have a larger codpiece... compleatly unnecessary!!!
maybe change the avatar system to something like EVE, you have a fully customisable avatar that you see when in your quaters, if you really wanted to show off you could make it so this avatar is the one seen in the prematch war room.
Why can't we have larger codpieces? I like bumping into other guys in the war room like I'm having anal intercourse with them. A larger package would greatly enhance the intensity of such encounters. And I would really really really love character customization like EVE. |
Ludwig Van HeadShotin
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Posted - 2012.07.14 23:56:00 -
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yah, I'll be in the war room minding my own business when some guy come over and starts grinding me, at least get some woman up in here, lol. Then I will complain no more.
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RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.07.14 23:58:00 -
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Make it happen!
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Hellhammer Tactical
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.07.15 08:26:00 -
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Wolf you naughty boy.
anywho, i dont think a geneticly engineered war woman would actualy be any smaller than her male counterpart, (think of the russian in dodgeball [not ugly though])
i guess the one question no one thought to ask is.......
are clones actualy male or female????? or are they niether? afterall clones cant reproduce so is there much point having sexes |
TabbieKat
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Posted - 2012.07.15 08:36:00 -
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Hellhammer Tactical wrote: are clones actualy male or female????? or are they niether? afterall clones cant reproduce so is there much point having sexes
Only reason I made this post is they are going to have Female characters and I would like them to be logical and not sex symbols. So to answer the question are clones actually male or female? In the case of the choose your sex option when you make your characters, yes there are both male and female clones. |
La Gris Feu
Covenant Security Solutions
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Posted - 2012.07.17 15:44:00 -
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Hellhammer Tactical wrote:guys while your checking out her chest she is filling you with lead.
personaly i think its like arguing that a Male dropsuit should have a larger codpiece... compleatly unnecessary!!!
maybe change the avatar system to something like EVE, you have a fully customisable avatar that you see when in your quaters, if you really wanted to show off you could make it so this avatar is the one seen in the prematch war room.
Well you see, codpieces make the armor more aerodynamic, sort of like with a logistics unicorn, that's why the Scout has the most prominent one and runs the fastest.
This is obviously a scientific fact.
And I agree with HellHammer, why should clones have a gender at all? Like I said before, it only makes sense that there would be a generic battle optimized clone body. It's not like having sexual organs or personal features is going to be useful on a battlefield so why would they be included in clone production? I suspect they might even be stripped down to exclude a proper digestive system as well, and instead are flooded with nutrient rich substances ready for the body to use, made by the Quafe corporation, right into the blood stream.
It's better if people use these clone bodies, but have more specialized and detailed clones of their actual selves for use outside of battle. Saves everybody trouble from having to work up a whole extra set of models for combat, meaning a shorter beta, and overall coming off as progressively tasteful and futuristic. At least in my opinion. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:29:00 -
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TabbieKat wrote:I know they will be adding new suits of armor to the game for the female avatars, but I have one request. Please, OMG PLEASE do not put boobs on the Heavy Dropsuits. That would look totally dumb, maybe a slimmer design but for all intents and purposes the Male and Female Heavy Dropsuits should look almost identical. Light suits and Pilot suits are fine to show breasts do to the lack of armor on them. Command, Assault, and Logistics maybe but all they are is a more armored version of their light suits. A friend and me who are both waiting for the female avatars and both agree that the Female Heavy Dropsuit should not have breasts. Also when they do add the Female avatars can we have an option to change our Beta characters over from Male to Female. I would like to test those too but I really do not want to have to start from scratch just to test it out. Seeing as we are just clones it would be really simple to change chromosomes from XY to XX. I'm curious; where did they say that they were adding female player models? |
Tupni
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Posted - 2012.07.17 18:10:00 -
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It's not something that's definite as far as I know, but it's also not something that has been publicly denied that I know of either. I think Wang said something about it once in one of those chat logs they posted to such an effect, after someone asked if they could play as females and if they'd have a smaller hitbox like in some other games or something. |
Jimbeezy
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.07.17 18:19:00 -
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FUNNIEST TOPIC EVER!!! |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.07.17 18:22:00 -
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I don't like the idea of killing women in general, even in video games. |
La Gris Feu
Covenant Security Solutions
25
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Posted - 2012.07.17 18:31:00 -
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TotalBreakage wrote:I don't like the idea of killing women in general, even in video games.
Well they'd be clones and their consciousness would perpetuate, which in a sense makes this one of the least violent games you can play that involve guns.
Also, do you like the idea of killing men in general? I mean, assuming all human/sentient life is of an equal value... |
Ventis Gant
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:30:00 -
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It could be that the female avatars are only for out of battle interaction. Only having male characters in the actual battles will save on resources for the PS3. There is some indication that this direction may be supported in the backstory. Some of the chronicles mention that female mercs are "loaded" into the default, male clone, and, in fact, that all battle clones are identical twins physically. This makes sense from the perspective that clones need to be interchangeable for everyone on your team. |
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Lewis Shinypants
9
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:45:00 -
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If a height difference is warrented, its always possible to put some sort of silly thing on the head or w/e to extend the hitbox. IDK. Make room so she can have her hair done up or some ****. /kidding obviously but
EDIT NOTE: Those of you saying no female models, please think of the female gamers. Sure were okay with playing males, but this is an MMOFPS. I want to MMO as a lady. Not as freaking lewis all the time! |
TabbieKat
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:57:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote: I'm curious; where did they say that they were adding female player models?
when you make your character there is a male or female option so there you go no need for anyone to say there will be or there will not be. it is fact and it will be added, i just want them added logically and not used as a sex symbol. if you want to have a sex symbol go play an MMORPG
as for your comments about the **** pieces on the male suits La Gris Feu, they are not helpful to the conversation and either show a lack of compassion or a lack of understanding. who cares how old you are, at least i am trying to contribute to the conversation and not troll, if that is all you are going to do go back to WoW where you belong. |
Anatoly Gasputin
Doomheim
40
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:59:00 -
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Seriously? I have one question and one question only:
Who the **** actually gives a ****?
You are still going to shoot them. |
TabbieKat
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Posted - 2012.07.17 22:03:00 -
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Anatoly Gasputin wrote:Seriously? I have one question and one question only: Who the **** actually gives a ****?You are still going to shoot them.
A) Girls who play the game do not want to be forced to play a male avatar B) I know some guys who prefer looking at a female body to a male body
So I care, my friend that wants to play cares, and from some of the posts others care as well. they are going to add them i just want to see them added properly |
Anatoly Gasputin
Doomheim
40
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Posted - 2012.07.17 22:32:00 -
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TabbieKat wrote:Anatoly Gasputin wrote:Seriously? I have one question and one question only: Who the **** actually gives a ****?You are still going to shoot them. A) Girls who play the game do not want to be forced to play a male avatar B) I know some guys who prefer looking at a female body to a male body So I care, my friend that wants to play cares, and from some of the posts others care as well. they are going to add them i just want to see them added properly
A) Female avatars are coming. B) Imagine that, so do I. I even know some women who prefer the female body over the male counterpart.
And I also want them to be added properly and with good taste, don't get me wrong here. I just wonder the need to argue over the female avatar as it is already coming. Female heavy shouldn't have boobs? Why not? Just in the limits of good taste.
Also, and apologies if any feelings were stomped here. |
Renzo Kuken
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
369
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:01:00 -
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Fat chicks need love too
but they gotta pay |
La Gris Feu
Covenant Security Solutions
25
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Posted - 2012.07.18 00:03:00 -
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TabbieKat wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote: I'm curious; where did they say that they were adding female player models?
when you make your character there is a male or female option so there you go no need for anyone to say there will be or there will not be. it is fact and it will be added, i just want them added logically and not used as a sex symbol. if you want to have a sex symbol go play an MMORPG as for your comments about the **** pieces on the male suits La Gris Feu, they are not helpful to the conversation and either show a lack of compassion or a lack of understanding. who cares how old you are, at least i am trying to contribute to the conversation and not troll, if that is all you are going to do go back to WoW where you belong.
I express my uncertainty of the intent and seriousness of your statement. A little humour is good for the soul mon ami, and I have only made as much, a little. And is cod a filtered word? "Cod".
...Well I guess I will find out shortly.
On topic, it'd just be nice to find some means of official declaration of intent on this matter, to satisfy curiosity. Obviously it isn't a super big deal, but it is something I've begrudgingly endured enough times in other games to at least say something about in face of uncertainty. Of course my face when CCP is all classy about it and this thread was pointless (of course the same applies to most every other thread potentially, I wish I knew more about their intentions).
And then again, I guess I will find out shortly. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.07.18 00:10:00 -
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TotalBreakage wrote:I don't like the idea of killing women in general, even in video games.
To prefer killing one gender more or less than the other is inherently sexist. They will be just as dangerous and deadly as any male merc, so mercy doesn't make sense. Maybe you are feeling the effects of some evolutionary drive; you can't pass on your genes if you kill all the women, or allow the women to get killed, but keep in mind that you won't be reproducing with them anyway, and your genes persist through clones (maybe the clones don't have you're genes, so you won't gain anything evolutionarily from passing them on). They're immortal anyway. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.07.18 00:14:00 -
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Zin The'tic wrote:most female's I know, have a larger "hitbox" then me...
lolz Yea boobs dont really have any use on the battlefield A cup size i say and be done with it |
Ethereal3600
665 Almost Evil Serenity.
2
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Posted - 2012.07.18 00:14:00 -
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lol awsome i agree its not apb i dont want to see fat naked people that glow in the dark lol |
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TabbieKat
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Posted - 2012.07.18 00:26:00 -
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Sorry I came off as a total B**** but I want it to make sense. All armors wear the Light suit under it and as you add armor you lose shape. that is the main thing. in the heat of battle you will never notice but i would have to look at it when not in battle and personally it would annoy me. I know I am stuck with what ever comes down the pipe but I figured I would put my opinion on the topic before the models were finalized.
I do owe you an apology La Gris Feu, I just take it seriously and I personally find it important. Just like everyone likes their RE's, Tanks, and what ever other Item in the game you do not want to be changed. Again I am sorry for flying off the handle like that. You did not deserve that and it does not help my argument. |
La Gris Feu
Covenant Security Solutions
25
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Posted - 2012.07.18 01:32:00 -
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Lol no worries, it's a sensitive subject. And on Internet forums it's harder to gauge how people mean things, so it's only natural to assume the worst right? Especially when it's something you care about and you feel like you need to be on a defensive footing. It happens to everybody at some point I should think. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.07.18 01:36:00 -
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Not reading all the posts, but somewhere there has to be a post:
Fat chicks need love too |
Bresker Veyne
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.07.18 02:47:00 -
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Haven't you guys seen the second season of Game of Thrones? Brienne is probably on of the most strongest and bad ass characters of the show, even though she is ugly and butch.
People should be able to make ugly women if they want to. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
278
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Posted - 2012.07.18 03:10:00 -
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You do realize that the only reason gender androgynous clones will exist on the battlefield is because it's basically a fashion statement. The PR Reason is to help female gamers immerse themselves into the game. You can be whatever you want, look however you want via custom clones. A good example is the Broker. http://community.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=jun02
In the real world, the female body and mind has different strengths than the male. The female body biggest specialization is energy conservation, while the male's body's biggest specialization is energy acquisition.
This means greater stamina for women, but greater base strength for men. Typically a strong woman is still weaker than a weak man sans augmentations. A woman can typically outlast a man in trials of stamina, such as long distance running (two hours or more) or swimming, or survival situations where resources are scarce. http://faculty.washington.edu/crowther/Misc/RBC/gender.shtml
This means that men tend to be stronger and faster than women, thus consuming energy at a greater rate, and tend to have smaller stores of the energy. Women, specializing in energy storage have more stores on their bodies than men which are used for survival, and in their other specialization.
Specifically, omega 3 fatty acids are stored in a different manner to omega 6s. Omega 6 fatty acids tend to be stored as a kind of checking account around the stomach, arms and face. These deposits are added to and removed from during whatever activities the women does.
Omega 3s are stored more like certificates of deposit in the thighs and buttocks region and are rarely removed for anything, ("Damn, I can't get rid of this ass/thighs no matter how much I work out!"). Omega 3s have a very important role to play; brain development. During infant brain development, large amounts of omega 3s are consumed, significantly more than is possible for the mother to eat during the pregnancy, thus the omega 3s which the woman has been saving in her thighs and hips are brought in to make the difference.
Generally, most of the stores are used on the first child if they are available. This is why much of the time the first born is much more gifted than her siblings, she had much more brain building omega 3s during her growth than them.
Men are genetically wired to look for a certain shape and size in women's waist to hip ration of about 70% waist to hip size. By looking they can also tell if the woman has had children before, and how fertile and survivable the child may be, and most importantly, how big of a brain the child may have.
EDIT: The latest issue of Psychology Today has a great article from around sixty years worth of research on the matter. |
TabbieKat
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Posted - 2012.07.18 03:24:00 -
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I guess in the long run my point was mute and sorry for wasting everyone's time, I am tired of defending my position to people that just do not get it. have all male avatars for all i care. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
278
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Posted - 2012.07.18 03:26:00 -
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TabbieKat wrote:I guess in the long run my point was mute and sorry for wasting everyone's time, I am tired of defending my position to people that just do not get it. have all male avatars for all i care.
I didn't see your post. |
Sessyllu Melcadra
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.07.18 03:45:00 -
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Have a slightly sexier version with the same hit box, I dont mind playing as a guy... But given the choice of whether i wanna spend my time looking at a soldier model - as a guy, i would prefer a female model on me screen moving like a man... Just saying.
If its an issue of hitboxes, keep them the same. If its an issue of boobs being too big, limit it to B cup. If its an issue of model size, we never had the option to make small or large models for EVE, so we shouldnt for DUST If its an issue of the game becoming sexist, I'd say grow up, the real world IS sexist and they DO prefer pretty over ugly. I do too, but if i find someone enough to overthrow that, then sure.
Its just a female character, when CCP feels like it's ok to put them then yay.
(No offence intended, just personal thoughts) |
Hellhammer Tactical
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.07.18 05:17:00 -
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Ethereal3600 wrote:lol awsome i agree its not apb i dont want to see fat naked people that glow in the dark lol
ewwwww, glowing naked fat people........ on that note will my shields glow in the dark?
i think female form will only suit light suits and even then it has to be tastefully done, afterall i dont want to end up dead from distraction. but i do feel that female gamers deserve to play as female avatar. |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
19
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Posted - 2012.07.18 06:08:00 -
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I don't mind wither my characters look "sexy" or "ugly" (kinda' subjective if you ask me), but if you see people wearing bikini camo in Dust, you will most definitely find who are the "kids" in the game.
Okay, that didn't make sense at all, but I still don't give a damn whether I'm shooting at a broom or a landwhale. If they're "orange", they better be sure to take cover cause I'll rain bullets on them. |
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carl von oppenheimer
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2012.07.18 06:17:00 -
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Frankly what we need is to have the warbarge fully explorable without a timer with male and female avatars with no drop suits. And let them all look the same in the game once launched to planet as it wouldn't make much sense to create different drop suits for both sexes when we're all clones down there and likely androgynous at that. Also drop up link creates enough radiation to kill the clone in a few hours after use so large body mass is preferred.
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Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.07.18 08:45:00 -
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carl von oppenheimer wrote:Frankly what we need is to have the warbarge fully explorable without a timer with male and female avatars with no drop suits.
Pretty much this. Dropsuits should be utilitarian and have very little sexual dimorphism because such things are essentially nerd fantasies, but of course people like their spacemen to look pretty, so throw in clothed (not dropsuited) avatars to represent characters whenever they're not on the battlefield.
And then charge $80 for a Dust monacle. |
Jonquill Caronite
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.07.18 11:07:00 -
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Whatever... Just port the Carbon character creation from EVE, and then make suits gender friendly, unless it doesn't make sense... Heavies are one size fit all, like tanks, and vehicles for size limitation reasons... If the hit box on female characters is slightly smaller its because THEY MADE THEIR CHARACTER SMALLER, which male characters should be able to do to, just like in the Carbon creation engine... Simple... If everyone is running around with midgets? Meh... Oh well... I guess if were clones its realistic anyways, maximize your clone by making him smaller, if you can change gender, you can sure as hell order mini-clones (Just with height control within reason please CCP). |
Hawk Drakkarsson2
ROGUE SPADES
0
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Posted - 2012.07.18 12:47:00 -
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TabbieKat wrote:Well I really do not know how it would be abused, there is no sex appeal to the armor. i mean it is not like an MMORPG were you have Female characters in bikinis killing giant dragons and taking almost no damage.....
OMG can you image a chick in a bikini taking out a Sagaris solo :D
I just want the armor to be logical to humans, a Female soldier on the battle field for the most part looks like a Male soldier when they are both in the same gear.
I don't know about no sex appeal on the armor. Have you seen those back plates? Sexy... |
JONLUK167
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.07.18 13:00:00 -
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TabbieKat wrote:I know they will be adding new suits of armor to the game for the female avatars, but I have one request. Please, OMG PLEASE do not put boobs on the Heavy Dropsuits. That would look totally dumb, maybe a slimmer design but for all intents and purposes the Male and Female Heavy Dropsuits should look almost identical. Light suits and Pilot suits are fine to show breasts do to the lack of armor on them. Command, Assault, and Logistics maybe but all they are is a more armored version of their light suits. A friend and me who are both waiting for the female avatars and both agree that the Female Heavy Dropsuit should not have breasts. Also when they do add the Female avatars can we have an option to change our Beta characters over from Male to Female. I would like to test those too but I really do not want to have to start from scratch just to test it out. Seeing as we are just clones it would be really simple to change chromosomes from XY to XX.
Id like to ad to that and say can we get rid of the skirt or kilt or what ever is on the heavy dropsuits or make it longer to look like a trench coat something else! |
Hellhammer Tactical
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.07.19 05:16:00 -
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i think we have collectivelysolved the issue.....
1. warbarge - full custom avatar, not in dropsuit 2.in battle only light suits show gender characteristcs.
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Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
19
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Posted - 2012.07.19 08:49:00 -
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Hellhammer Tactical wrote:i think we have collectivelysolved the issue.....
1. warbarge - full custom avatar, not in dropsuit 2.in battle only light suits show gender characteristcs.
Strangely, it's the only thing that makes any general sense outside of that guy's post explaining the whole concept of how each gender treats their body mass (it was quite informative).
EDIT: Oh, and... yes, I want DAT glorious Carbon engine for the character editor even if it's a web-based client or a stand-alone app for players that take interest in changing their character's appearance. |
carl von oppenheimer
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2012.07.19 10:26:00 -
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Considering that DUST is run with UT3 engine they would have to make carbon to model your avatar and then mangle it through UT3's renderer and 3D meshing which I think none of us would like.
Or characters would look very different while inside the warbarge then on a planet as they would have to have that gorgeous carbon look when inside and then the low poly mesh of UT3 when outside.
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Hellhammer Tactical
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.07.21 06:10:00 -
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carl von oppenheimer wrote:Considering that DUST is run with UT3 engine they would have to make carbon to model your avatar and then mangle it through UT3's renderer and 3D meshing which I think none of us would like.
Or characters would look very different while inside the warbarge then on a planet as they would have to have that gorgeous carbon look when inside and then the low poly mesh of UT3 when outside.
unfortunately Carl is right, the UT3 engine is great for graphics on a stand alone game, but when you carry that over to web based systems you inherently loose alot of quality. also the PS3 is not a big fan of working with any Unreal engine. its got to many coding clashes with sony's firmware. The same reason we are having issues with the draw distance and with the in game map renderings. |
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