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TabbieKat
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Posted - 2012.07.14 02:49:00 -
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I know they will be adding new suits of armor to the game for the female avatars, but I have one request. Please, OMG PLEASE do not put boobs on the Heavy Dropsuits. That would look totally dumb, maybe a slimmer design but for all intents and purposes the Male and Female Heavy Dropsuits should look almost identical.
Light suits and Pilot suits are fine to show breasts do to the lack of armor on them. Command, Assault, and Logistics maybe but all they are is a more armored version of their light suits. A friend and me who are both waiting for the female avatars and both agree that the Female Heavy Dropsuit should not have breasts.
Also when they do add the Female avatars can we have an option to change our Beta characters over from Male to Female. I would like to test those too but I really do not want to have to start from scratch just to test it out. Seeing as we are just clones it would be really simple to change chromosomes from XY to XX.  |
Boss Dirge
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.14 04:09:00 -
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Wow I have to like your post just because you went there. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.07.14 05:19:00 -
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Considering we're clones designed for fighting, and fighting alone, my guess is the female builds would be rather athletic and lacking in chest size. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.07.14 05:28:00 -
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Personally I would lock genders to the PSN ID and the private user information enclosed. Meaning you do not get the choice whether or not you want to abuse the gender option or not.  |
TabbieKat
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Posted - 2012.07.14 05:36:00 -
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Well I really do not know how it would be abused, there is no sex appeal to the armor. i mean it is not like an MMORPG were you have Female characters in bikinis killing giant dragons and taking almost no damage.....
OMG can you image a chick in a bikini taking out a Sagaris solo :D
I just want the armor to be logical to humans, a Female soldier on the battle field for the most part looks like a Male soldier when they are both in the same gear. |
RinTsubaki
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Posted - 2012.07.14 05:42:00 -
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i could see the lighter armors like scout having a female figure to them but i run around in my heavy and i think that should look exactly like the male maybe a lil thinner in places like my waist like and posably a lil shorter but the same and as a woman i don't see a problem with it at all and i dont care if a guy plays as a girl i play games and play as a guy so whats the big deal about the gender being locked? |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.14 06:06:00 -
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If the female characters are smaller then there would be an issue because they would have a smaller hitbox. So any one using a female character would have an advantage over the same male armor class. |
Zin The'tic
On The Brink
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Posted - 2012.07.14 06:13:00 -
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most female's I know, have a larger "hitbox" then me... |
RinTsubaki
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Posted - 2012.07.14 06:40:00 -
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by smaller i ment shorter not like tiny and they should have relitivly the same hit box not like a few inches will make a diffrence |
La Gris Feu
Covenant Security Solutions
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Posted - 2012.07.14 07:08:00 -
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TabbieKat wrote:Well I really do not know how it would be abused, there is no sex appeal to the armor. i mean it is not like an MMORPG were you have Female characters in bikinis killing giant dragons and taking almost no damage.....
OMG can you image a chick in a bikini taking out a Sagaris solo :D
I just want the armor to be logical to humans, a Female soldier on the battle field for the most part looks like a Male soldier when they are both in the same gear.
Forgive me then while I continue to ogle Scout's finely molded buttocks, broad shoulders, corset like lacing, and suggestive "lower back" "port". Now if only he wasn't so shy even in the privacy of his quarters that I might gawk at that shapely cod piece... Oh m'yes, that IS a lovely rifle you have there... *twirls mustache titillatingly*
*cough* On topic, I agree that the gender dimorphism of the clones should be downplayed for more of a mass produced functional and somewhat androgynous look; though I'm nearly certain that CCP already has a good sense about this sort of thing. But for the record, I personally find it borderline offensive when I am forced to endure the perpetuation of the social notion, even in my futuristic fantasy, that a woman is no good in a game unless she has perfect skin and hair, a petite, shapely (and shamelessly flaunted (I'M LOOKING AT YOU BUTT-SHOT IN 'A FUTURE VISION'!) body, and overall needs unnecessary feminine distinction for validation to the fact that she is indeed a woman. Not to mention the passive stigma of media products against athletic women, because apparently being tall and athletic just isn't pretty if it means having a less feminine fat distribution and actually possessing significant muscular strength that is relative to being realistically effective in an action and adventure setting!
And when not done for such reasons, I don't even want to get started with how I definitely do find it offensive when such things are perpetuated for the producer's desire to include it for sake of male-oriented sex appeal. Shoving it in their faces because obviously this is what they all want to see as base-minded creatures driven solely by sexual desire, alienating women or those otherwise unentertained by such visuals.
At any rate, in this setting, given the function of mercenaries it wouldn't make sense to have big busty ladykind with the huge swaying hips, lusciously plump hindquarters, then the tiny shoulders and waists, unless we want to go very realistic here and include a lowered sprint, stamina/recovery, and melee attack which frankly would not feel right to me. Of course, if it were to vary between races what males and females were like given their social ideologies and evolutionary differences that would be quite interesting and potentially very tasteful; if spawning unnecessary model additions.
Or the issue could be side-stepped altogether by using optimized uniform combat enhanced clones, and the character being however they choose to be in the respite of their down time, which seems the most sensible option to me. |
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TabbieKat
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Posted - 2012.07.14 08:12:00 -
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I agree with you La Gris Feu. Logically the clones (both male and female) would be athletic in build. Think of more like the people that compete in the Olympics. That should be the basic body type for the clones. But i will say this is also a fantasy world so making the armor feminine would also tie into it. If you look at a male in a light drop suit it should look male, and a female in a light drop suit should look female. They are basically the stripped down versions of each of the armor types. From looking at the trailers and teaser videos, they will be making a Light, Assault, Logistic, Pilot, Command, and Heavy armor for each race. The light suit being the suit all the armors wear under what ever suit they choose. The helmet and underlying suit being the only physical difference in each races armor. So as you add layers you will lose that feminine look to the armor until you get to the heavy armor and see very little to no difference in the avatar. |
RinTsubaki
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Posted - 2012.07.14 08:26:00 -
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TabbieKat wrote:I agree with you La Gris Feu. Logically the clones (both male and female) would be athletic in build. Think of more like the people that compete in the Olympics. That should be the basic body type for the clones. But i will say this is also a fantasy world so making the armor feminine would also tie into it. If you look at a male in a light drop suit it should look male, and a female in a light drop suit should look female. They are basically the stripped down versions of each of the armor types. From looking at the trailers and teaser videos, they will be making a Light, Assault, Logistic, Pilot, Command, and Heavy armor for each race. The light suit being the suit all the armors wear under what ever suit they choose. The helmet and underlying suit being the only physical difference in each races armor. So as you add layers you will lose that feminine look to the armor until you get to the heavy armor and see very little to no difference in the avatar.
i agree with you
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.07.14 08:45:00 -
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I see no problem with some bit of chest elevation to differentiate them from male heavies. It won't look weird if it isn't overdone. |
Hellhammer Tactical
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.14 08:52:00 -
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i once met a female marine, damn she was hot... anyway little while later i was sat with a dislocated shoulder wondering what hit me... anyway less about my fails and back to the OP.
i agree that only the light dropsuits should show any difference, clones are after all engineered to be war machines.
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RinTsubaki
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Posted - 2012.07.14 09:05:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I see no problem with some bit of chest elevation to differentiate them from male heavies. It won't look weird if it isn't overdone.
well i disagree with you as a woman i don't see any reason if i was in a suit of heady armor you would see my boobs or even be able to tell me apart from a man unless i spoke and no heavy female armor dose not nor will it ever need boobs and if you think so your obviously a man |
Hellhammer Tactical
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.14 10:22:00 -
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guys while your checking out her chest she is filling you with lead.
personaly i think its like arguing that a Male dropsuit should have a larger codpiece... compleatly unnecessary!!!
maybe change the avatar system to something like EVE, you have a fully customisable avatar that you see when in your quaters, if you really wanted to show off you could make it so this avatar is the one seen in the prematch war room. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.14 10:31:00 -
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I personally don't like the idea of having a different model for the female mercs, unless the actual hit box is just as large. What I mean is, female avatars better be just as easy to shoot, it would really suck if they were a smaller target, I have enough trouble with the DS3 as it is... :s |
RinTsubaki
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Posted - 2012.07.14 21:45:00 -
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did i ever say make the hit box smaller no i said make them smaller just enough that you can tell but keep the hit box the same men never listen. XD jk honestly though don't assume things it would be unfair if the females had a smaller hit box and i like things as fair as they can be. i can own you just as well as any man i only look better doing it. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.07.14 21:48:00 -
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Hellhammer Tactical wrote:guys while your checking out her chest she is filling you with lead.
personaly i think its like arguing that a Male dropsuit should have a larger codpiece... compleatly unnecessary!!!
maybe change the avatar system to something like EVE, you have a fully customisable avatar that you see when in your quaters, if you really wanted to show off you could make it so this avatar is the one seen in the prematch war room.
Why can't we have larger codpieces? I like bumping into other guys in the war room like I'm having anal intercourse with them. A larger package would greatly enhance the intensity of such encounters.
And I would really really really love character customization like EVE. |
Ludwig Van HeadShotin
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Posted - 2012.07.14 23:56:00 -
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yah, I'll be in the war room minding my own business when some guy come over and starts grinding me, at least get some woman up in here, lol. Then I will complain no more.
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RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.07.14 23:58:00 -
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Make it happen!
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Hellhammer Tactical
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.15 08:26:00 -
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Wolf you naughty boy.
anywho, i dont think a geneticly engineered war woman would actualy be any smaller than her male counterpart, (think of the russian in dodgeball [not ugly though])
i guess the one question no one thought to ask is.......
are clones actualy male or female????? or are they niether? afterall clones cant reproduce so is there much point having sexes |
TabbieKat
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Posted - 2012.07.15 08:36:00 -
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Hellhammer Tactical wrote:
are clones actualy male or female????? or are they niether? afterall clones cant reproduce so is there much point having sexes
Only reason I made this post is they are going to have Female characters and I would like them to be logical and not sex symbols. So to answer the question are clones actually male or female? In the case of the choose your sex option when you make your characters, yes there are both male and female clones. |
La Gris Feu
Covenant Security Solutions
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Posted - 2012.07.17 15:44:00 -
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Hellhammer Tactical wrote:guys while your checking out her chest she is filling you with lead.
personaly i think its like arguing that a Male dropsuit should have a larger codpiece... compleatly unnecessary!!!
maybe change the avatar system to something like EVE, you have a fully customisable avatar that you see when in your quaters, if you really wanted to show off you could make it so this avatar is the one seen in the prematch war room.
Well you see, codpieces make the armor more aerodynamic, sort of like with a logistics unicorn, that's why the Scout has the most prominent one and runs the fastest.
This is obviously a scientific fact.
And I agree with HellHammer, why should clones have a gender at all? Like I said before, it only makes sense that there would be a generic battle optimized clone body. It's not like having sexual organs or personal features is going to be useful on a battlefield so why would they be included in clone production? I suspect they might even be stripped down to exclude a proper digestive system as well, and instead are flooded with nutrient rich substances ready for the body to use, made by the Quafe corporation, right into the blood stream.
It's better if people use these clone bodies, but have more specialized and detailed clones of their actual selves for use outside of battle. Saves everybody trouble from having to work up a whole extra set of models for combat, meaning a shorter beta, and overall coming off as progressively tasteful and futuristic. At least in my opinion. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:29:00 -
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TabbieKat wrote:I know they will be adding new suits of armor to the game for the female avatars, but I have one request. Please, OMG PLEASE do not put boobs on the Heavy Dropsuits. That would look totally dumb, maybe a slimmer design but for all intents and purposes the Male and Female Heavy Dropsuits should look almost identical. Light suits and Pilot suits are fine to show breasts do to the lack of armor on them. Command, Assault, and Logistics maybe but all they are is a more armored version of their light suits. A friend and me who are both waiting for the female avatars and both agree that the Female Heavy Dropsuit should not have breasts. Also when they do add the Female avatars can we have an option to change our Beta characters over from Male to Female. I would like to test those too but I really do not want to have to start from scratch just to test it out. Seeing as we are just clones it would be really simple to change chromosomes from XY to XX.
I'm curious; where did they say that they were adding female player models? |
Tupni
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Posted - 2012.07.17 18:10:00 -
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It's not something that's definite as far as I know, but it's also not something that has been publicly denied that I know of either. I think Wang said something about it once in one of those chat logs they posted to such an effect, after someone asked if they could play as females and if they'd have a smaller hitbox like in some other games or something. |
Jimbeezy
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.07.17 18:19:00 -
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FUNNIEST TOPIC EVER!!! |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.17 18:22:00 -
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I don't like the idea of killing women in general, even in video games. |
La Gris Feu
Covenant Security Solutions
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Posted - 2012.07.17 18:31:00 -
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TotalBreakage wrote:I don't like the idea of killing women in general, even in video games.
Well they'd be clones and their consciousness would perpetuate, which in a sense makes this one of the least violent games you can play that involve guns.
Also, do you like the idea of killing men in general? I mean, assuming all human/sentient life is of an equal value... |
Ventis Gant
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:30:00 -
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It could be that the female avatars are only for out of battle interaction. Only having male characters in the actual battles will save on resources for the PS3. There is some indication that this direction may be supported in the backstory. Some of the chronicles mention that female mercs are "loaded" into the default, male clone, and, in fact, that all battle clones are identical twins physically. This makes sense from the perspective that clones need to be interchangeable for everyone on your team. |
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