I agree.

I think that there should be a skill to increase ammo capacity.

I also think there should be a vehicle mountable module that would resupply ammo while activated. This way a solo tank could sacrifice some armor/shields to have unlimited ammo and a vehicle could provide ammo to other vehicles around it.

Activation keeps it from being automatic, and allows for well organized teams to have well defined supply roles for things like LAV's or Dropships.

These modules should also refill drop suit ammo.

I have not dove into vehicles yet so please forgive my naivety.

I feel tanks should come with some 'militia' type ammo where it is generally weak and plentiful. Players should be able to upgrade their tanks in terms of shields & armor as well as types of turret sizes (larger turrets shoot more expensive and more powerful ammo). Players then purchase "rounds" of ammo to fire from a tank.

This would be comparable to ground troops who have to purchase weapons, tank operators have to purchase different types and amounts of ammo.

If you knew that you were losing 500/1,000/10,000 ISK every time you fired your turret, I bet you would be more selective.

Admittedly, the only thing I haven't quite answered is that a ground trope loses 1 weapon and 1 drop suit when they die, for a player with a tank, if they follow the above system, when killed, would they lose the tank and all ammo "stocked" in it?

Lorebot hit the nail on the head, even if he's argueing against it. Internal nanohives explain it all. ofc a tank can have a module on board that an infantryman can carry. vehicles in almost any game have infinite ammo, at least Dust has an explanation why.

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Lorebot hit the nail on the head, even if he's argueing against it. Internal nanohives explain it all. ofc a tank can have a module on board that an infantryman can carry. vehicles in almost any game have infinite ammo, at least Dust has an explanation why.

I agree that purchasing ammo for tanks could be a little bit too deep and bothersome, but as I understood, i thought that was how it worked in EVE and thought it may work in Dust. I see your points.

I am against having a nano hive on board permanently in the tank as when i have to deploy a nanohive as a ground trope, it A) cant move again and B) can be destroyed by the opposing side. I think a permanent nano in a tank would be unfair and not much better than what we have now.

I don't mind the idea of having a permanent nanohive inside a vehicle as long as it's a module they need to equip. The pilot needs to make a sacrifice in damage output or tank in order to get the infinite ammo, and that's a type of balance I'd like to see.

I 100% support this. I'm so tired of tanks and Dropship's blowing up all the supply depot's because they don't have to worry about ammo. Simple fix, give them a limited supply and let them refill at the depot's like everyone else.

Vehicles having infinite ammo is ridiculous and makes no sense at all from any logical perspective. I'd like to see all turrets have a limited amount of ammo, which could be replenished in some way (nano/hives and supply depos could work).

Even if a blaster turret has something like 10,000+ bullets at least there's some sort of limit to the madness and people can't just sit spamming the r1 button, especially with the missile launchers.

I wouldnt mind if vehicles have limited ammo stores, provided they had a means of self rearming maybe take away an armor slot (since amarrian tanks WONT have ammo as it eats capacitor instead.)

Turrets I think need to have thier ammo stores built in as well to prevent overexpendature of ammo and make the AI consume no ammo. However if manned turrets would then get a bonus to damage/function if it where to ammoed.

Also there needs to be a mobile nanohive module for LAVs havs and dropships to resupply everyone but themselves

First of all I disagree with this.

Now you may ask me why.

This will effect tank gameplay in a very very bad way. They will not be able to be a front line machine.

Why is this well.

Currently to keep your tank alive you have to kill swarm launchers forge gunners fast as the respawn and keep them from hammering on your tank. being all of a sudden stuck ammoless in a tank means death because they have you targeted. Unlike as a dropsuit user if you run out of ammo it is very easy to sneak out of the battle and get to a nano hive. you do not have a big target on your back. Where tanks once seen everyone calls them out.

Well your moving up to take b with the team and end up in a clash between 2 teams well half way through your battle you run out of ammo bang your tank is a dead tank or a very useless one. Very fast. You have to think how fast a tank burns through ammo because they are not just killing infantry but other vehicles structures. As a driver your stuck micro managing all your turrets ammo then.

If you put it as a mid slot module all shield tanks will suffer at its expense vice versa if you put it as a low slot all armor tanks suffer putting one or another at a serious disadvantage. and currently the tanks are pretty easy to pop if you get 2 proto AV set up ons them. Which means giving up a module spot will make them very very easy to pop.

Micro managing ammo on tanks would turn the 2m isk machine into a 2m isk scrap pile.

Tanks are not OP in any way. We do not get the safety of sitting up high on a building with nano hives launching swarms. once on the map the tanks turn into a gaint target and you are constantly shooting enemies to keep them off your back with forge guns and sl.

Just a bad idea in general because it would make most tank drivers camp on a hive and not move the whole game from there side of the map.

I have heard a few discuccions on amarr tanks and it is quite possible they will funtion much the same as the railgun or blaster and just overheat. As the devs have said nothing about cap yet, at least not to my limited knowledge.

For limited ammo cap does work nicely but since there is no need to actually resupply it may considered OP by some.

A good solution may be to use focusing crystal and have them wear out after X number of shots.

Just my thoughts on laser tanks.

Either way they will be devastaing, to shields anyway.

Why not like infantry they have a set number of ammo. like a Large missile turret comes with 100 rounds while each small missile turret comes with 50 each. Then have a module that is either passive or activated to replenish ammo. The tanks would still have the near unlimited ammo but they would have to wait for it to replenish.