It's been brought up before, and last phase, one person (and I regretfully forgot their name) had a simply BRILLIANT idea.

Make the timer count UP, instead of down.

The moment you press O to suicide and you arrive at the map to respawn, your timer starts counting up.

10 seconds on the clock, and you can spawn at a CRU/drop ship/default/objective spawn
15-20 seconds later, you can spawn on a drop uplink. (possibly sooner if the uplink is a prototype version or whatever)

This eliminates a few issues I currently have with the spawn mechanic (I can only speak for myself)

1. Trying to hero spawn on a lettered objective and being denied at the last second would no longer lead to yet another 10+ seconds to spawn (taking into consideration choosing a new spawn point).

2. Choosing a spawn point would no longer be taken into your spawn timers consideration, thus no longer "penalizing" someone for actually trying to pick a good strategic spawn point.

3. It would make it possible to actually communicate with team members and, when your squad/teams timers are all appropriate, have a team mate drop an uplink, and "Hot Drop" all at the same time. (Currently the 20 second timer AFTER the uplink is dropped seems a bit... non-spontaneous)

When I initially heard this idea, it was like a moment of clarity. It's such a simple solution. I understand why CCP has the 10 seconds in place, in order to pace the game, and make it so we aren't perpetually respawning the moment we die... but I think 10 seconds is good enough, 20 for a bit of a field advantage. It's great. but any more than that is just tedious, particularly when spawn-camping is such an issue currently.

Sounds like a great idea. Can't tell you how many times I've died, try to respawn, only to have an assets captured/destroyed. Then have to wait through the full spawn timer AGAIN!!!

Absolutely brilliant idea. It also shows you just how long you've spent waiting, when you should be fighting. It could even give the player a visual indication when they've waited too long where the timer turns red as you exceed a certain amount of time, since the game auto-kicks you at a certain point.

I have a subversion of this idea.

Instead of using a number counter, we could have an up-link meter... well, two of them actually. One bar would signal you that you have gained access to the already predetermined drop zones, while the other would signal you that you are able to spawn in tactical drop zones. Once meter fills, a UI element would signal you which drop zones are available for you by making their drop markers appear on the map.

Maybe your spawn zones are colored white/gray until you are able to spawn there so that there is a good way of knowing.

It's been brought up before, and last phase, one person (and I regretfully forgot their name) had a simply BRILLIANT idea.

Make the timer count UP, instead of down.

The moment you press O to suicide and you arrive at the map to respawn, your timer starts counting up.

10 seconds on the clock, and you can spawn at a CRU/drop ship/default/objective spawn
15-20 seconds later, you can spawn on a drop uplink. (possibly sooner if the uplink is a prototype version or whatever)

This eliminates a few issues I currently have with the spawn mechanic (I can only speak for myself)

1. Trying to hero spawn on a lettered objective and being denied at the last second would no longer lead to yet another 10+ seconds to spawn (taking into consideration choosing a new spawn point).

2. Choosing a spawn point would no longer be taken into your spawn timers consideration, thus no longer "penalizing" someone for actually trying to pick a good strategic spawn point.

3. It would make it possible to actually communicate with team members and, when your squad/teams timers are all appropriate, have a team mate drop an uplink, and "Hot Drop" all at the same time. (Currently the 20 second timer AFTER the uplink is dropped seems a bit... non-spontaneous)

When I initially heard this idea, it was like a moment of clarity. It's such a simple solution. I understand why CCP has the 10 seconds in place, in order to pace the game, and make it so we aren't perpetually respawning the moment we die... but I think 10 seconds is good enough, 20 for a bit of a field advantage. It's great. but any more than that is just tedious, particularly when spawn-camping is such an issue currently.

Totally agree. The current system leads to unnecessary extra waiting. If you already waited 10 seconds, then you shouldn't be forced to wait another 10 seconds extra if something cancels your spawn and forces you to pick another spawn point.

This frustrates me as well. I would love to see a drop in the spawn counter. 10 seconds is way too long

This made me cringe. 10 seconds is not too long. 10 seconds is long enough.

This made me cringe. 10 seconds is not too long. 10 seconds is long enough.

10 seconds isn't the problem, it's having it reset after you've made a choice and rejected that choice. It should only count 10 seconds and then add you to the game whenever you're ready. Not 10 seconds, reset dropsuit choice, a new 10 seconds.

The countdown timer is there probably to provide time for the textures to load. Because there is a large area to render and it IS a beta it takes time.

It's been brought up before, and last phase, one person (and I regretfully forgot their name) had a simply BRILLIANT idea.

Make the timer count UP, instead of down.

The moment you press O to suicide and you arrive at the map to respawn, your timer starts counting up.

10 seconds on the clock, and you can spawn at a CRU/drop ship/default/objective spawn
15-20 seconds later, you can spawn on a drop uplink. (possibly sooner if the uplink is a prototype version or whatever)

This eliminates a few issues I currently have with the spawn mechanic (I can only speak for myself)

1. Trying to hero spawn on a lettered objective and being denied at the last second would no longer lead to yet another 10+ seconds to spawn (taking into consideration choosing a new spawn point).

2. Choosing a spawn point would no longer be taken into your spawn timers consideration, thus no longer "penalizing" someone for actually trying to pick a good strategic spawn point.

3. It would make it possible to actually communicate with team members and, when your squad/teams timers are all appropriate, have a team mate drop an uplink, and "Hot Drop" all at the same time. (Currently the 20 second timer AFTER the uplink is dropped seems a bit... non-spontaneous)

When I initially heard this idea, it was like a moment of clarity. It's such a simple solution. I understand why CCP has the 10 seconds in place, in order to pace the game, and make it so we aren't perpetually respawning the moment we die... but I think 10 seconds is good enough, 20 for a bit of a field advantage. It's great. but any more than that is just tedious, particularly when spawn-camping is such an issue currently.

I dont fully dissagree nor agree with the whole count up timer deal but heres a point to consider.

There are different classes of Drop uplinks. The chief difference between them is that the better the uplink drop, the shorter time it takes to respawn on that beacon.

You make it a count up timer and you negate this aspect, cause when you die you'll just sit there for 12 seconds or whatever sippin your tea or pop and then insta-spawn wherever.

Respawning is a major Problem in every Shooter.

There isnt a single developer that has bring a good respawn system on the market.

I think the real problem is to set on a strict timer, why 10 Secons? because its a nice number?


Good people should get faster respawns, bad player higher timers, lonw wolfs the highest, spawn camping should reduce the timer. and so on.

Also: Respawn protection if spawn camped.

Hmm.. your ideas seem...

broken. :P

I think it's worth emphasising the newly-reworked spawn system that's coming with the next build.

When downed, You get forced to wait at least 8 seconds, which counts towards your respawn timer. You also get to wait up to 30 seconds before being forced to suicide, during which time you also stack the seconds against your respawn time.

You still have a minimum of 3 seconds to wait for spawning, but that SHOULD mean you can respawn with a delay anywhere between 3 and 12 seconds at an Uplink that has a default of 20 seconds, depending how long you waited for someone to revive you. At default spawn points or 11 second delay Uplinks you'll only have 3 second delay regardless.

Where's the info on this? I need to start reading these things. But that sounds pretty much like it's a combination of OP's idea and a system which empowers Logistics finally, so I'd be very pleased with that approach.