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Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.09 22:56:00 -
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I have to agree the Heavy/HMG combo is pretty poor at the minute.
Considering a heavy is the only loadout that can use a HMG you've already sacraficed speed and an ability to carry equipment.
Compared to even an advanced AR the proto HMG sucks.
With a 300 round mag you might of expected an HMG to be useful against some vehicles. Range, overheating and long reload times put paid to this as well.
It is pretty tough to recommend the Heavy/HMG combo at the moment unless tou fancy a challenge. |
Ryan Martel
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.09 23:10:00 -
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That is so true. |
Nulldust
Codex Troopers
4
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Posted - 2012.07.10 13:31:00 -
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There are noticeable fewer HMG heavies in this build. I like HMG heavies. They look cool. More than that, they make the overall gameplay better because their defensive nature complements other classes. So lets have more of them.
I support bringing back the old HMG. If it still felt overpowered, make it penalize walk/sprint speed, just like armor module.
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Moorian Flav
Ectype Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.10 14:13:00 -
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As I put in a different post, I've gotten more kills with my SMG in my Forge/SMG Heavy loadout then I have with the HMG in my HMG Heavy loadout. It's really messed up that the HMG was nerfed so bad yet still takes so much from a dropsuit. A secondary cannot be equipped with the HMG but the Forge, which was harder to get and way more powerful, takes less of a dropsuit. Things are seriously off now with the HMG. I think to compromise CCP should go midway between where the HMG was and where it is now; that way it will be more powerful but not too powerful and could go through most of a clip with the trgger down without overheating. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.07.10 15:43:00 -
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I dont care about damage and heat build up those can be modified with training.
What I miss most of the HMG is the accuracy build up is way too slow now. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.07.10 15:44:00 -
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Moorian Flav wrote:As I put in a different post, I've gotten more kills with my SMG in my Forge/SMG Heavy loadout then I have with the HMG in my HMG Heavy loadout. It's really messed up that the HMG was nerfed so bad yet still takes so much from a dropsuit. A secondary cannot be equipped with the HMG but the Forge, which was harder to get and way more powerful, takes less of a dropsuit. Things are seriously off now with the HMG. I think to compromise CCP should go midway between where the HMG was and where it is now; that way it will be more powerful but not too powerful and could go through most of a clip with the trgger down without overheating.
Train Electroncis and Engineering and weapon upgrades all reduce fitting costs weapon upgrades have two tiers for each weapon class so thats like 15%cpu off. |
Moorian Flav
Ectype Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.10 18:13:00 -
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Thanks for the info.
The point I was trying to make though is the HMG still has the same dropsuit draw it had pre-nerf but has been nerfed retaining the same dropsuit draw which is higher than other more powerful weapons. I'd hate to say it, but I prefer the HMG the way it was to the way the HMG is now. |
Zhar Ptitsaa
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.11 15:38:00 -
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Moorian Flav wrote:Thanks for the info.
The point I was trying to make though is the HMG still has the same dropsuit draw it had pre-nerf but has been nerfed retaining the same dropsuit draw which is higher than other more powerful weapons. I'd hate to say it, but I prefer the HMG the way it was to the way the HMG is now.
I dunno who doesnt tbh |
Stabber McShank
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.11 17:07:00 -
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The nerf to the HMG is exactly why you see my Heavy running around with a proto-breach assault rifle.
I gave up on the HMG after 2 battles post-E3 patch. Why use an under-performer when I can do more damage at a longer range in an suit with 1000 armor. |
Moorian Flav
Ectype Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.11 19:19:00 -
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I hope the HMG is corrected soon although it is hard to tell without a dev response. ;) |
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
157
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Posted - 2012.07.11 19:23:00 -
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Also keep in mind that in the previous build, we had a lot of CQC going on. All of the ridges, chokepoints, canyons, and buildings served the Heavy very well by narrowing combat into channels. This map is MUCH more open, giving enemies much more room to navigate around you or to just avoid fighting you altogether.
That said, however, a bit of an overheat buff or adding a skill that reduces heat buildup by... 3% per level would be welcome. |
Chao Wolf
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
209
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:07:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Also keep in mind that in the previous build, we had a lot of CQC going on. All of the ridges, chokepoints, canyons, and buildings served the Heavy very well by narrowing combat into channels. This map is MUCH more open, giving enemies much more room to navigate around you or to just avoid fighting you altogether.
That said, however, a bit of an overheat buff or adding a skill that reduces heat buildup by... 3% per level would be welcome.
hmg proficiency gives u the 3% on heat build up |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
157
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:11:00 -
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Chao Wolf wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Also keep in mind that in the previous build, we had a lot of CQC going on. All of the ridges, chokepoints, canyons, and buildings served the Heavy very well by narrowing combat into channels. This map is MUCH more open, giving enemies much more room to navigate around you or to just avoid fighting you altogether.
That said, however, a bit of an overheat buff or adding a skill that reduces heat buildup by... 3% per level would be welcome. hmg proficiency gives u the 3% on heat build up
... I knew that :v |
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