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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2016.11.26 18:22:00 -
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We haven't heard a single thing about the game since it was announced at Fanfest. And CCP is only saying "We're still working on it!" and so on... all of that is eerie similar to how they handled things with Legion:
Announcement. After that "We are working on it!" but no new information anymore and they just said Legion was done when they announced Nova.
Valkyrie on the other hand... announced in 2013 as Eve VR:
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/eve-vr-an-experiment-in-bringing-virtual-reality-to-the-eve-universe/
And not even 3 months later it was renamed to "Eve: Valkyrie" and announced to be an Oculus Launch title, telling everybody "Yes, it will be released!"
http://www.roadtovr.com/eve-valkyrie-eve-vr-oculus-rift-support-gamescom-2013/
And I seriously don't get why. Unlike Nova Valkyrie has an extremely small target group already, which is only people owning a VR headset. On top of that it is a 60 dollar title with gameplay like a F2P game like World of Warships and less content. How can that make money for CCP?
Nova on the other hand got good feedback, would be a normal PC game and probably F2P with Microtransactions. Definitely has more appeal and will pull in more players than Valkyrie, due to it not requiring very expensive hardware. Yet we get not a single detail, no mentioning of it, no announcement about it having passed some new hurdle. No mentioning of when we can get to play it or anything at all. And it's been what... 8 months since it was announced?
So well. It's been half a year since Dust was shut down and even longer since we last heard from Nova. I actually don't have much hope anymore to ever see a Shooter in the Eve Universe.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.11.26 19:12:00 -
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In that case the next GTA must not exist because they don't talk about it.
This is how the industry works. If they talked about it, and CCP ditched it, they you would be crying, "But they promised! " Or, like No Man's Sky, they talk about things that don't end up being exactly what speculation thought it would be, and suddenly everyone is claiming they lied.
If they don't say anything, because they want to have something more concrete, then you say, "If I don't hear about it it must not exist," because of course that is how life works and anything you aren't aware of can't possibly exist...
Yes, it would be nice if we got some info, but taking the lack of info as suggestion it doesn't exist just comes off as childish. There are many good reasons for them to stay quiet other than the game not existing.
Lastly, if you pay attention to job hires at CCP, they are hiring for the game.
TL; DR. I am tired of the whining.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.11.26 19:28:00 -
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We just have to wait to see if something is released, and then we can pick it apart.
It is definitely harder to do now that most games I follow are extremely transparent from alpha on, but this is how the industry is.
We have no choice but to wait and see.
From dust we rose through trials young as legions run through countless souls; resting dreams within the boundless nova.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.11.26 20:26:00 -
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No.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
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Posted - 2016.11.26 20:33:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:In that case the next GTA must not exist because they don't talk about it.
The difference being that we know how new Projects are handled at CCP, as they told us. And it is just worrying how Valkyrie became a full fledged product in a matter of months, but for Nova we get nothing at all... which probably means it is still not green lit by the higher ups and still just a Project which might or might not come out. And Legion wasn't officially cancelled either. They presented it. Never talked about it and suddenly they stopped and announced Nova. They never directly told us that Legion was cancelled. Just that Nova is something different.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2016.11.26 22:16:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:In that case the next GTA must not exist because they don't talk about it. Except that's true. GTA VI doesn't exist as far as I know.
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2016.11.26 23:11:00 -
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This battle for info has gone on long enough...
Make it stop, CCP, give in to the pressure of the community.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.11.26 23:59:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:give in to the pressure of the community. All five of us!
From dust we rose through trials young as legions run through countless souls; resting dreams within the boundless nova.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.11.27 00:46:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:One Eyed King wrote:In that case the next GTA must not exist because they don't talk about it. Except that's true. GTA VI doesn't exist as far as I know. That is a specific turn of phrase you use.
You qualified your statement with, "as far as I know."
That is not the same thing as saying, because I don't know about it, it MUST not exist.
It is the difference between saying you that you can't confirm something vs saying that you can confirm something isn't.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.11.27 01:03:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:One Eyed King wrote:In that case the next GTA must not exist because they don't talk about it. The difference being that we know how new Projects are handled at CCP, as they told us. And it is just worrying how Valkyrie became a full fledged product in a matter of months, but for Nova we get nothing at all... which probably means it is still not green lit by the higher ups and still just a Project which might or might not come out. And Legion wasn't officially cancelled either. They presented it. Never talked about it and suddenly they stopped and announced Nova. They never directly told us that Legion was cancelled. Just that Nova is something different. All you know about Valkyrie is how many months there was between Project Announcement to Product Announcement.
You don't know how much work went into it beforehand.
Not to mention, that everything I have read suggests Valkyrie is light on content, meaning it is a bit smaller in scope, though feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
Nova will necessitate greater care than a space shooter. It is easy to create space shooter maps, because space. Creating good FPS maps can be difficult, and takes time. Not to mention trying to get as much of the nuance and complexity of Dust into Nova without all the brokenness.
Frankly, I was impressed they had a demo out less than a year after development, and that people thought it was by and large good (at least in terms of the mechanics, which was the point of the demo).
If we don't hear any updates at FF or before, I will be more concerned. At this point, not so much.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2016.11.27 01:03:00 -
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RE: So... is Project Nova dead?
No. It is not. CCP just isn't talking about what progress they have made so far. CCP LogicLoop is working on nova and pops into the DUST vets Discord server to say hello every so often. A direct quote from CCP Rattati from 9/14 on the DUST vets server...
Quote:just assuring that the Nova team absolutely working on improving what you saw at fanfest I don't like how uncommunicative CCP is being either, trust me. But it isn't cancelled.
My advice to you, playa.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2016.11.27 01:04:00 -
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Can I suggest doing the opposite of Legion...
Instead of announcing that something will happen and then letting it... Not happen...
Just tell everyone Nova is dead, then in a few years let out the "suurrprise!"
Trust me, the reaction to the 2nd way is a lot better! |
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Posted - 2016.11.27 01:37:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Can I suggest doing the opposite of Legion...
Instead of announcing that something will happen and then letting it... Not happen...
Just tell everyone Nova is dead, then in a few years let out the "suurrprise!"
Trust me, the reaction to the 2nd way is a lot better!
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james selim brownstein
NECROM0NGERS The Red Skull
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Posted - 2016.11.27 02:31:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:I am tired of the whining. You're complaining about the "whining"... I see little difference between the two.
Also, if you don't want to see people "whining" about it, then don't read the posts.
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james selim brownstein
NECROM0NGERS The Red Skull
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Posted - 2016.11.27 02:34:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:This battle for info has gone on long enough...
Make it stop, CCP, give in to the pressure of the community.
I cut their cheeseburger support a week ago, so it's not long until they break...
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2016.11.27 04:09:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Joel II X wrote:One Eyed King wrote:In that case the next GTA must not exist because they don't talk about it. Except that's true. GTA VI doesn't exist as far as I know. That is a specific turn of phrase you use. You qualified your statement with, "as far as I know." That is not the same thing as saying, because I don't know about it, it MUST not exist. It is the difference between saying you that you can't confirm something vs saying that you can confirm something isn't. So, when did GTA VI get released, then?
Also, I used that particular phrase because you're obviously under the influence of something if you think GTA VI has released. It was a joke. I was contrasting my sense of reality to yours. In my reality, GTA VI hasn't released, therefore, you're "living on another planet".
Your trolling attempts are pathetic, and your whining even more so. If you do not wish to view posts regarding the silence on Project Nova, then do not click on them.
LOL
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deadpool lifetone
D3ATH CARD RUST415
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Posted - 2016.11.27 04:16:00 -
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. I'm just going to point at you & laugh! . Poke you in the face with rusty knova knives , while planting R.Es in your stomach lol . Just let CCP work in peace for the love of pizza & Chinese food . .
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jett it
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Posted - 2016.11.27 04:54:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:In that case the next GTA must not exist because they don't talk about it.
This is how the industry works. If they talked about it, and CCP ditched it, they you would be crying, "But they promised! " Or, like No Man's Sky, they talk about things that don't end up being exactly what speculation thought it would be, and suddenly everyone is claiming they lied.
If they don't say anything, because they want to have something more concrete, then you say, "If I don't hear about it it must not exist," because of course that is how life works and anything you aren't aware of can't possibly exist...
Yes, it would be nice if we got some info, but taking the lack of info as suggestion it doesn't exist just comes off as childish. There are many good reasons for them to stay quiet other than the game not existing.
Lastly, if you pay attention to job hires at CCP, they are hiring for the game.
TL; DR. I am tired of the whining.
Not really true about gta at all. I bought a few thousand dollars of stock on take two interactive a whole year before gta 5 was released, stocks were pretty steady until the game released that next year then it was time to sell for some juicy returns
You can certainly tell when a game will be released. look at read dead redemption rockstar announced that 1 year before its expected launch in fall 2017.
I am already another few thousand into stock for RDR 2.
With ccp its you get ZERO which is not how other game companies work at ALL. I 100% agree with the OP on this matter.
Feel like you missed out on gta 5 stock earnings? dont worry now is the time again RDR 2 is going to be a huge release in fall 2017 if you wanna quadruple your profile similar to gta 5.
YOUR telling me ccp has to stay quiet about projects?
That sure aint true for there VR stuff and here is the proof...
https://www.ccpgames.com/projectarena/
Where is our project nova page like that? huh...
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.11.27 05:18:00 -
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And how long was Red Dead Redemption 2 in development before they announced? Development cycles are quite long, around 5 years give or take, especially for Take 2 game, and they don't announce development as soon as they start...
Take Fallout 4 for instance. The development for that game started immediately after Fallout 3, albeit with a staff of only one or two people at first. Just because they didn't announce the game until a few months prior to launch doesn't mean it didn't exist.
Nova has been in development for about a year now, and given that it was announced just a few months after development had started compared with other gaming announcements, that seems rather open compared to the announcement timelines of other companies.
It just seems to me there are a lot of whiny entitled gamers out there. If games like NMS and Star Citizen announce early, when things don't go exactly as gamers speculate (and they never do) then gamers b*tch and moan about lies and vaporware. If nothing is said at all, they b*tch about the same thing.
For Pete's sake stop being little b*tches.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2016.11.27 05:23:00 -
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Nope :D
CCP won't say anything, but I'll tell you that it's worth the wait ^_^
Skype: Nomistrav
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jett it
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Posted - 2016.11.27 05:24:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:And how long was Red Dead Redemption 2 in development before they announced? Development cycles are quite long, around 5 years give or take, especially for Take 2 game, and they don't announce development as soon as they start...
Take Fallout 4 for instance. The development for that game started immediately after Fallout 3, albeit with a staff of only one or two people at first. Just because they didn't announce the game until a few months prior to launch doesn't mean it didn't exist.
Nova has been in development for about a year now, and given that it was announced just a few months after development had started compared with other gaming announcements, that seems rather open compared to the announcement timelines of other companies.
It just seems to me there are a lot of whiny entitled gamers out there. If games like NMS and Star Citizen announce early, when things don't go exactly as gamers speculate (and they never do) then gamers b*tch and moan about lies and vaporware. If nothing is said at all, they b*tch about the same thing.
For Pete's sake stop being little b*tches.
You have no clue what your talking about in the world of stocks and real life! You cant rely on some BS made up name like project nova or a promise made to your players. thats stuff will put your ass on the street.
Big difference, red dead 2 has been announced yes and was probably in development for a few months already correct. but unlike ccp they have a solid and trustable name not some keep your fingers crossed BS like project nova.
So for that reason alone you are wrong no one else announces weird ass projects like ccp and then calls it something else.
Thats what you do if you need to buy time or simply lie to your player base with out them really knowing. Very shady stuff.
Not whining either, what ccp is doing is the shadiest thing possible. They cant lie to the public so they make up a project instead to keep them safe.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2016.11.27 05:27:00 -
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jett it wrote:One Eyed King wrote:And how long was Red Dead Redemption 2 in development before they announced? Development cycles are quite long, around 5 years give or take, especially for Take 2 game, and they don't announce development as soon as they start...
Take Fallout 4 for instance. The development for that game started immediately after Fallout 3, albeit with a staff of only one or two people at first. Just because they didn't announce the game until a few months prior to launch doesn't mean it didn't exist.
Nova has been in development for about a year now, and given that it was announced just a few months after development had started compared with other gaming announcements, that seems rather open compared to the announcement timelines of other companies.
It just seems to me there are a lot of whiny entitled gamers out there. If games like NMS and Star Citizen announce early, when things don't go exactly as gamers speculate (and they never do) then gamers b*tch and moan about lies and vaporware. If nothing is said at all, they b*tch about the same thing.
For Pete's sake stop being little b*tches. You have no clue what your talking about in the world of stocks and real life! You cant rely on some BS made up name like project nova or a promise made to your players. thats stuff will put your ass on the street. Big difference, red dead 2 has been announced yes and was probably in development for a few months already correct. but unlike ccp they have a solid and trustable name not some keep your fingers crossed BS like project nova. So for that reason alone you are wrong no one else announces weird ass projects like ccp and then calls it something else. Thats what you do if you need to buy time or simply lie to your player base with out them really knowing. Very shady stuff. Not whining either, what ccp is doing is the shadiest thing possible. They cant lie to the public so they make up a project instead to keep them safe.
Please record yourself when you do eventually play Nova. I would like to see it when you eat these words x3
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jett it
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
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Posted - 2016.11.27 05:30:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Nope :D
CCP won't say anything, but I'll tell you that it's worth the wait ^_^
I really want to believe you so badly :::::) but how :) I do have that gut feeling that they did not give up on us. usually that is correct every time unless it was those tacos.
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jett it
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
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Posted - 2016.11.27 05:32:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:jett it wrote:One Eyed King wrote:And how long was Red Dead Redemption 2 in development before they announced? Development cycles are quite long, around 5 years give or take, especially for Take 2 game, and they don't announce development as soon as they start...
Take Fallout 4 for instance. The development for that game started immediately after Fallout 3, albeit with a staff of only one or two people at first. Just because they didn't announce the game until a few months prior to launch doesn't mean it didn't exist.
Nova has been in development for about a year now, and given that it was announced just a few months after development had started compared with other gaming announcements, that seems rather open compared to the announcement timelines of other companies.
It just seems to me there are a lot of whiny entitled gamers out there. If games like NMS and Star Citizen announce early, when things don't go exactly as gamers speculate (and they never do) then gamers b*tch and moan about lies and vaporware. If nothing is said at all, they b*tch about the same thing.
For Pete's sake stop being little b*tches. You have no clue what your talking about in the world of stocks and real life! You cant rely on some BS made up name like project nova or a promise made to your players. thats stuff will put your ass on the street. Big difference, red dead 2 has been announced yes and was probably in development for a few months already correct. but unlike ccp they have a solid and trustable name not some keep your fingers crossed BS like project nova. So for that reason alone you are wrong no one else announces weird ass projects like ccp and then calls it something else. Thats what you do if you need to buy time or simply lie to your player base with out them really knowing. Very shady stuff. Not whining either, what ccp is doing is the shadiest thing possible. They cant lie to the public so they make up a project instead to keep them safe. Please record yourself when you do eventually play Nova. I would like to see it when you eat these words x3
This argument was about how ccp releases games not about if and when so called project nova will be released.
They said major companies release games like that including gta and they were dead wrong straight up.
Its just shady how ccp releases games. Not saying i hate them cause i love them and cant wait for the new game.
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jett it
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
711
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Posted - 2016.11.27 05:44:00 -
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I would love to support ccp and throw a few k into their stock however the way they release games is not like other major companies. Where as other companies like rockstar and take two are very predictable you can trust their word right down to the name of the game from that initial announcement date. Where as ccp makes all kinds of code names and projects then rapidly releases the game or cancels the project aka legion.
That was my point.
Nothing against ccp i love them more then any of you and still cant wait for the new game.
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Ajastor
Brigade of Guards Orion Empire
57
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Posted - 2016.11.27 11:30:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:give in to the pressure of the community. All five of us!
Make that six!
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2016.11.27 12:51:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:give in to the pressure of the community. All five of us! How f*cking pessimistic of you...
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.11.27 13:31:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:give in to the pressure of the community. All five of us! How f*cking pessimistic of you... Oh ****, sorry bro.
All four of us.
From dust we rose through trials young as legions run through countless souls; resting dreams within the boundless nova.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
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Posted - 2016.11.27 16:25:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:And how long was Red Dead Redemption 2 in development before they announced? Development cycles are quite long, around 5 years give or take, especially for Take 2 game, and they don't announce development as soon as they start...
Take Fallout 4 for instance. The development for that game started immediately after Fallout 3, albeit with a staff of only one or two people at first. Just because they didn't announce the game until a few months prior to launch doesn't mean it didn't exist.
Nova has been in development for about a year now, and given that it was announced just a few months after development had started compared with other gaming announcements, that seems rather open compared to the announcement timelines of other companies.
It just seems to me there are a lot of whiny entitled gamers out there. If games like NMS and Star Citizen announce early, when things don't go exactly as gamers speculate (and they never do) then gamers b*tch and moan about lies and vaporware. If nothing is said at all, they b*tch about the same thing.
For Pete's sake stop being little b*tches.
Unlike Nova, games like GTA and RDR used an inhouse built engine. Developing that engine takes a lot of time. Nova is running on the Unreal Engine 4. So most of the stuff is already done. In addition to that they already had the assets from Dust and... we already saw a working version of the game. When other games are at a point where the devs can show something... they do. Just to get people interested. With Nova we get nothing at all. With Nova they could easily just show a new map they made, or some new weapons. Or maybe they made changes to the progression. Heck: It's been 8 months and they apparently have a team working full time on that thing. So why the extreme secrecy?
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.11.27 17:41:00 -
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I'm always impressed by how much people beleive they understand the whole process and state of development despite having effectively zero publically released information to go off of.
Typically it boils down to "well it's obvious because of all these assumptions and conjectures Ive made!". Even when you have CPM and devs say "er.....no? Things are still progressing nicely." people will come back with "Well I want to beleive you but it's just more comfortable to assume the worst and freak out about it."
But I'm just the unofficial white knight, apparently, so don't mind me.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.11.27 18:22:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Edit: You know what, nevermind, not worth trying DONT BE THAT WAY POKIE GIV IN TO THE DUCK SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Selene Dravon
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2016.11.27 18:28:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Edit: You know what, nevermind, not worth trying DONT BE THAT WAY POKIE GIV IN TO THE DUCK SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's a pointless battle that will end is noresult other than me catching more **** for being a "white knight". Just not worth it.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.11.27 18:56:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Edit: You know what, nevermind, not worth trying DONT BE THAT WAY POKIE GIV IN TO THE DUCK SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's a pointless battle that will end is noresult other than me catching more **** for being a "white knight". Just not worth it.
If people want to be upset, who am I to convince them otherwise? I'll just find my satisfaction while I'm play testing.
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jett it
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
711
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Posted - 2016.11.28 02:14:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Edit: You know what, nevermind, not worth trying DONT BE THAT WAY POKIE GIV IN TO THE DUCK SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a pointless battle that will end is noresult other than me catching more **** for being a "white knight". Just not worth it. If people want to be upset, who am I to convince them otherwise? I'll just find my satisfaction while I'm play testing.
I dont think people are upset, we all love ccp deep down even if you dont want to admit it.
Now having patience for them is another story, they could have left dust running just a few months longer to avoid their player base going mentally insane. So what if they lost a few thousand bucks to keep their servers up and players happy thats like chump change to them.
Its kinda like leaving a dog in a room alone with the door closed that dog will go mental trying to get out.
But when someone lets it out its gonna be the happiest dog in the world.
So patience we must have :)
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Forever ETC
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Project Nova is being developed, this has been mentioned by both CPM and Devs in the Discord. Now as to why they have communicated to the rest of the community is just CCP things and there really isn't a significant community to tell.
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Forever ETC wrote:Project Nova is being developed, this has been mentioned by both CPM and Devs in the Discord. Now as to why they have communicated to the rest of the community is just CCP things and there really isn't a significant community to tell.
The difference is being developed by ccp means nobody knows. Where as being developed by other game companies and you know for a fact.
Whats to say cpm isnt covering for the devs or whats to say the devs aren't lying to the cpm.
With a project anything is possible.
Sure Snorri mentioned a lot about it a fanfest and even sat down with many companies to give heads up reviews about nova.
But then again I seen all this and more from legion...
I would say the rat man is the only soul that knows 100% for sure whats going down.
Cpms can say what they want, in the end run they are also just assuming.
Did cpm tell us dust was closing before the 1.3 update? No they asked what we wanted to see wasting all of our time even though ccp told them prior to that, that they were pulling the plug on dust.
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Forever ETC
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Posted - 2016.11.29 01:22:00 -
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jett it wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Project Nova is being developed, this has been mentioned by both CPM and Devs in the Discord. Now as to why they have communicated to the rest of the community is just CCP things and there really isn't a significant community to tell. The difference is being developed by ccp means nobody knows. Where as being developed by other game companies and you know for a fact. Whats to say cpm isnt covering for the devs or whats to say the devs aren't lying to the cpm. With a project anything is possible. Sure Snorri mentioned a lot about it a fanfest and even sat down with many companies to give heads up reviews about nova. But then again I seen all this and more from legion... I would say the rat man is the only soul that knows 100% for sure whats going down. Cpms can say what they want, in the end run they are also just assuming. Did cpm tell us dust was closing before the 1.3 update? No they asked what we wanted to see wasting all of our time even though ccp told them prior to that, that they were pulling the plug on dust and 1.3 wont be released. Yeah yeah yeah i know cpm have to sign NDA's but that is no excuse for getting us excited about a 1.3 update only to hear from ccp that dust was closing without the 1.3 update. You should be kicking yourself x3 for that cpm.
I encourage you to head into Discord, the game is being actively developed. The only thing that is uncertain is it's future.
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Forever ETC wrote:jett it wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Project Nova is being developed, this has been mentioned by both CPM and Devs in the Discord. Now as to why they have communicated to the rest of the community is just CCP things and there really isn't a significant community to tell. The difference is being developed by ccp means nobody knows. Where as being developed by other game companies and you know for a fact. Whats to say cpm isnt covering for the devs or whats to say the devs aren't lying to the cpm. With a project anything is possible. Sure Snorri mentioned a lot about it a fanfest and even sat down with many companies to give heads up reviews about nova. But then again I seen all this and more from legion... I would say the rat man is the only soul that knows 100% for sure whats going down. Cpms can say what they want, in the end run they are also just assuming. Did cpm tell us dust was closing before the 1.3 update? No they asked what we wanted to see wasting all of our time even though ccp told them prior to that, that they were pulling the plug on dust and 1.3 wont be released. Yeah yeah yeah i know cpm have to sign NDA's but that is no excuse for getting us excited about a 1.3 update only to hear from ccp that dust was closing without the 1.3 update. You should be kicking yourself x3 for that cpm. I encourage you to head into Discord, the game is being actively developed. The only thing that is uncertain is it's future.
Just never mind you Your missing the point so what if its being actively developed. The future is uncertain indeed.
What would happen if rattati just up and quit? Well then... I dont think we would see a Nova.
I am very confident that a new game will be release and soon.
But you guys talking like its a sure thing just bugs the heck outa me.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2016.11.29 05:00:00 -
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No one is saying it is a sure thing. We are simply saying that it exists.
Its just really annoying when people, in spite of all evidence, start saying the game is "dead" or doesn't exist just because they don't hear what they want, where they want it, and when they want it.
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Posted - 2016.11.29 14:06:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:No one is saying it is a sure thing. We are simply saying that it exists.
Its just really annoying when people, in spite of all evidence, start saying the game is "dead" or doesn't exist just because they don't hear what they want, where they want it, and when they want it.
I agree with you on that. The project is not dead and we all know it exists from fanfest alone.
Its not about hearing what you wanna hear. its all about if and when ccp decides to release it or not.Also yes a lot of people are talking like its a sure thing even a lot of the CPM which kinda bugs me after what they led us to believe about 1.3
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.11.29 14:55:00 -
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jett it wrote:One Eyed King wrote:No one is saying it is a sure thing. We are simply saying that it exists.
Its just really annoying when people, in spite of all evidence, start saying the game is "dead" or doesn't exist just because they don't hear what they want, where they want it, and when they want it. I agree with you on that. The project is not dead and we all know it exists from fanfest alone. Its not about hearing what you wanna hear. its all about if and when ccp decides to release it or not. Also yes a lot of people are talking like its a sure thing even a lot of the CPM which kinda bugs me after what they led us to believe about 1.3
To be fair, the CPM were under the impression that 1.3 was going to happen up until almost right before the shutdown announcement. They found out it wasn't going to happen very soon before we did, and you'll notice they went silent about it after they found out (if memory serves was only a couple weeks before we found out)
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Pokey Dravon wrote:jett it wrote:One Eyed King wrote:No one is saying it is a sure thing. We are simply saying that it exists.
Its just really annoying when people, in spite of all evidence, start saying the game is "dead" or doesn't exist just because they don't hear what they want, where they want it, and when they want it. I agree with you on that. The project is not dead and we all know it exists from fanfest alone. Its not about hearing what you wanna hear. its all about if and when ccp decides to release it or not. Also yes a lot of people are talking like its a sure thing even a lot of the CPM which kinda bugs me after what they led us to believe about 1.3 To be fair, the CPM were under the impression that 1.3 was going to happen up until almost right before the shutdown announcement. They found out it wasn't going to happen very soon before we did, and you'll notice they went silent about it after they found out (if memory serves was only a couple weeks before we found out)
Yes you are correct pokey i remember quiet well but i can also pull up old threads that were misleading from them about 1.3 Ill have to sharpen my rusty shovel but they do exist right here on this forum, unless the cpm have made edits to their posts in the mean time which is 100% possible.
Anyways, I dont want any trouble so i will leave that stuff buried.
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Moorian Flav
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To OP: Do what I did; stop asking. We obviously aren't going to hear anything until Fanfest 2017, if ever. Sit back, find some other games to play (like I have), and check back around April 6-8, 2017.
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Echo 1991
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Moorian Flav wrote:To OP: Do what I did; stop asking. We obviously aren't going to hear anything until Fanfest 2017, if ever. Sit back, find some other games to play (like I have), and check back around April 6-8, 2017. As much as I hate to admit it, they are right. I do however think 1 of 3 things is happening:
1. The game is being worked on, been green lit and they just don't wanna show anything until they have a solid shooter.
2. The game is being worked on but at a slow pace cos other games are being worked on (i.e. EVE gunjack and what not), so they don't have anything to show
3. The game has been canned.
I hope i am way wrong and that the first one is true, the wait however, for just a little bit of news is shocking. You shouldn't create hype for a game by having a playable demo nearly 8 months ago and then suddenly have nothing to share.
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Posted - 2016.11.29 16:56:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Moorian Flav wrote:To OP: Do what I did; stop asking. We obviously aren't going to hear anything until Fanfest 2017, if ever. Sit back, find some other games to play (like I have), and check back around April 6-8, 2017. As much as I hate to admit it, they are right. I do however think 1 of 3 things is happening: 1. The game is being worked on, been green lit and they just don't wanna show anything until they have a solid shooter. 2. The game is being worked on but at a slow pace cos other games are being worked on (i.e. EVE gunjack and what not), so they don't have anything to show 3. The game has been canned. I hope i am way wrong and that the first one is true, the wait however, for just a little bit of news is shocking. You shouldn't create hype for a game by having a playable demo nearly 8 months ago and then suddenly have nothing to share. Welcome to CCP. Please do not look for logic in CCP's actions as you will just end up frustrated (as there seemingly is none).
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.11.29 17:25:00 -
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jett it wrote:Yes you are correct pokey i remember quiet well but i can also pull up old threads that were misleading from them about 1.3 Ill have to sharpen my rusty shovel but they do exist right here on this forum, unless the cpm have made edits to their posts in the mean time which is 100% possible. Anyways, I dont want any trouble so i will leave that stuff buried.
No trouble man just stating what I remember. I guess my point is that, yes of course they were talking about 1.3 because they fully believed it would happen. They of course stopped talking about it once they realized it wasn't going to happen. So it's kind of hard to accuse them of being deceptive if they were simply speaking in what they believed to be true.
Now of they had kept talking about it happening after they knew it wouldn't happen, then yes that would be deceptive and wrong. But if my memory serves, that did not happen.
I think what makes it all that much more ****** is that from what I've gleaned in passing conversation, there was actually a fair amount of work that was done on 1.3 but it got the axe from the powers to be before it could be implemented. A real shame.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2016.11.29 19:57:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:No one is saying it is a sure thing. We are simply saying that it exists.
Its just really annoying when people, in spite of all evidence, start saying the game is "dead" or doesn't exist just because they don't hear what they want, where they want it, and when they want it.
I am not saying it's dead... I just think the current circumstances are WAY TOO similar to other canned CCP projects. Like World of Darkness or Legion.
The non canned projects... they get exposure: Valkyrie got regular new updates, Gunjack did too, even Gunjack 2 already has a webpage. With these projects you knew something was being developed and that you will see something.
Nova was already absent from Eve Vegas. And all we hear all the time is "We're working on it" Ok. I don't want to say they are lying... but the secrecy probably also means that the game is still only a Project and not greenlit and can be canned any moment. And with them being in that state for so long, compared to their other projects, it makes it seem like the game getting cancelled is imminent and I don't think they would even announce the project being canned, as they didn't announce the game coming out in the first place.
I feel like CCP is doing what so many people in the dating scene think is so cool: Ghosting. If the project doesn't turn out, just don't talk about it and let people wait. With so little information I would actually already be content with them telling us "Should Nova be cancelled, we will tell you" Because it kinda sucks waiting for Project which might never happen. Because I seriously want it to happen.
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Posted - 2016.11.29 21:51:00 -
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Senior Sound Designer Job advertised by CCP Shanghai, Job Description must haves
- Proven experience in the production of FPS games with at least one shipped title
Plus LogicLoop is working maps, which wouldn't be too useful for Gunjack
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Juno Tristan wrote:Senior Sound Designer Job advertised by CCP Shanghai, Job Description must haves
- Proven experience in the production of FPS games with at least one shipped title
Plus LogicLoop is working maps, which wouldn't be too useful for Gunjack That's what gets gamers excited; job postings, not visual media of any kind, but job postings.
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Posted - 2016.11.29 22:15:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:jett it wrote:Yes you are correct pokey i remember quiet well but i can also pull up old threads that were misleading from them about 1.3 Ill have to sharpen my rusty shovel but they do exist right here on this forum, unless the cpm have made edits to their posts in the mean time which is 100% possible. Anyways, I dont want any trouble so i will leave that stuff buried. No trouble man just stating what I remember. I guess my point is that, yes of course they were talking about 1.3 because they fully believed it would happen. They of course stopped talking about it once they realized it wasn't going to happen. So it's kind of hard to accuse them of being deceptive if they were simply speaking in what they believed to be true. Now of they had kept talking about it happening after they knew it wouldn't happen, then yes that would be deceptive and wrong. But if my memory serves, that did not happen. I think what makes it all that much more ****** is that from what I've gleaned in passing conversation, there was actually a fair amount of work that was done on 1.3 but it got the axe from the powers to be before it could be implemented. A real shame.
Yes a real shame indeed i was pumped for 1.3 :(
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Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2016.11.30 07:04:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote: All five of us!
Four.
You, me, Ripley and the guy with a bazillion alts.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.11.30 15:31:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:DUST Fiend wrote: All five of us!
Four. You, me, Ripley and the guy with a bazillion alts.
Ouch.
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Moorian Flav
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Posted - 2016.11.30 16:59:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:DUST Fiend wrote: All five of us!
Four. You, me, Ripley and the guy with a bazillion alts. Ouch. Yeah, some people think SO highly of themselves. Not much has really changed since before shutdown.
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