DUST Search - So much butthurt from EVE players.

Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:

Eve players were promised first acces to the Dust 514 beta...lol
So much butthurt when we Sony PSN adherents got in first...lol!

The outcry from the EVE latecomers was great and add in the added butthurt from the Fanfest 2012 attendees in April who did not get to play till we got there first to the Dust 514 closed beta...lol.

https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/new-dev-blog-dust-514-closed-beta-signup-now-live/

Actually, the Dev Blog you linked specifically mentions the following:

"For now, registration is available exclusively to active subscribers of EVE Online who will join the pool of participants that we will be using to allow entry into early testing and special events for DUST 514. Registration for MorduGÇÖs Private Trials does not guarantee entry, but as an active EVE subscriber, you are the first to have access to sign up for the closed beta." - CCP Cmdr Wang (no longer working there)

It is also very likely that the alpha testers were Eve players since it was originally brought up in one of the earlier fanfests (I think 2009).

Who owns psn?
Its not ccp but for reals psn is property of sony and thus it was sony who sent out several waves of server stress test keys for dust 514 tests on psn
While we psn master race got to play the great unwashed of fanfest had to wait several weekends before they were able to play.
In other words those who got to play first called sony and requested an early access beta key to participate in dust 514 stress tests on psn before ccp or anyone at ccp got keys for the great unwashed of fanfest.
Comprende?
Kristofer touborg lead design said ''we do have some psn users in now'' when asked why no fanfest users had keys to dust 514

Lol at someone calling me a ''sony veteran tester''

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Tech Ohm Eaven Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1986	Posted - 2016.05.18 06:12:00 - [1] - Quote Eve players were promised first acces to the Dust 514 beta...lol So much butthurt when we Sony PSN adherents got in first...lol! The outcry from the EVE latecomers was great and add in the added butthurt from the Fanfest 2012 attendees in April who did not get to play till we got there first to the Dust 514 closed beta...lol. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/new-dev-blog-dust-514-closed-beta-signup-now-live/
Sylwester Dziewiecki 563	Posted - 2016.05.18 09:04:00 - [2] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Eve players were promised first acces to the Dust 514 beta...lol So much butthurt when we Sony PSN adherents got in first...lol! The outcry from the EVE latecomers was great and add in the added butthurt from the Fanfest 2012 attendees in April who did not get to play till we got there first to the Dust 514 closed beta...lol. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/new-dev-blog-dust-514-closed-beta-signup-now-live/ You are re-writing history. This is Skirmish v1.0
Jenny Tales Eternal Beings SpaceMonkey's Alliance 186	Posted - 2016.05.18 09:59:00 - [3] - Quote It's ******* ridiculous how old this game is, but how much better it is than most console shooters. And how they're going to ruin it by getting rid of vehicles in Nova... Whatever happened to DS the Drunk Heavy anyway?
Sylwester Dziewiecki 563	Posted - 2016.05.18 10:17:00 - [4] - Quote Jenny Tales wrote: It's ******* ridiculous how old this game is, but how much better it is than most console shooters. And how they're going to ruin it by getting rid of vehicles in Nova... Entire vehicle aspect of the game in DUST is something like 25-30% of bug's this game have. Just look at the past and imagine that every singiel developer-minute spend on fixing Infantry-Vechicle interaction could serve for good of Infantry vs. Infantry combat - sincerely I think we would play even greater game today, then we do. This is Skirmish v1.0
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 8020	Posted - 2016.05.18 12:00:00 - [5] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Jenny Tales wrote: It's ******* ridiculous how old this game is, but how much better it is than most console shooters. And how they're going to ruin it by getting rid of vehicles in Nova... Entire vehicle aspect of the game in DUST is something like 25-30% of bug's this game have. Just look at the past and imagine that every singiel developer-minute spend on fixing Infantry-Vechicle interaction could serve for good of Infantry vs. Infantry combat - sincerely I think we would play even greater game today, then we do. Remember also that Nova is starting out as us fighting on ships in space where you don't even have any room for vehicles. It's been said many times that when the core gameplay is as fun as possible - instead of being barely tolerable like Dust - they'll open up planets again and we'll have vehicles there. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 5328	Posted - 2016.05.18 12:23:00 - [6] - Quote Patrolling the hallways with a Sica... Regressed to blueberry level =ƒÿ» #PortDaPort on Consoles
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 419	Posted - 2016.05.18 13:47:00 - [7] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Entire vehicle aspect of the game in DUST is something like 25-30% of bug's this game have. Just look at the past and imagine that every singiel developer-minute spend on fixing Infantry-Vechicle interaction could serve for good of Infantry vs. Infantry combat - sincerely I think we would play even greater game today, then we do. The only bug with vehicles is that the control sticks sometimes don't respond as you roll from full reverse to full accel. Would be better to imagine what Dust would have been like if they didn't split the team to waste time on Legion. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
SAMEERio Pug-Nus The-Office 372	Posted - 2016.05.18 13:56:00 - [8] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Jenny Tales wrote: It's ******* ridiculous how old this game is, but how much better it is than most console shooters. And how they're going to ruin it by getting rid of vehicles in Nova... Entire vehicle aspect of the game in DUST is something like 25-30% of bug's this game have. Just look at the past and imagine that every singiel developer-minute spend on fixing Infantry-Vechicle interaction could serve for good of Infantry vs. Infantry combat - sincerely I think we would play even greater game today, then we do. Remember also that Nova is starting out as us fighting on ships in space where you don't even have any room for vehicles. It's been said many times that when the core gameplay is as fun as possible - instead of being barely tolerable like Dust - they'll open up planets again and we'll have vehicles there. Will we be seeing tanks with jetpacks? Eat my Shorts!
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 419	Posted - 2016.05.18 13:59:00 - [9] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Remember also that Nova is starting out as us fighting on ships in space where you don't even have any room for vehicles. It's been said many times that when the core gameplay is as fun as possible - instead of being barely tolerable like Dust - they'll open up planets again and we'll have vehicles there. Assumes facts not in evidence. The demo took place inside, and aside from some lore fluff, it wasn't in space, at least not moving. Boring reality sneaking in, but physics has rules and all that. As for them making a infantry only game than expanding it with vehicles, I find that to be a poor design philosophy. They don't work as a tack on addition. As for starting out on ships in space, I laugh heartily at how poorly a corridor shooter with no views of the outside world will do. Why do YOU need to be reminded about the "ten year plan"? Here, lets go back to 2012, https://youtu.be/jbzN4G_geKI?t=408 isn't in funny how they are still focused on making a "good shooter experience". I wish them the best of luck, but don't act like we haven't seen all these statements before. Its a bloody recycle of the promises with Dust, just with less actual ambition. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 13437	Posted - 2016.05.18 15:45:00 - [10] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Entire vehicle aspect of the game in DUST is something like 25-30% of bug's this game have. Just look at the past and imagine that every singiel developer-minute spend on fixing Infantry-Vechicle interaction could serve for good of Infantry vs. Infantry combat - sincerely I think we would play even greater game today, then we do. The only bug with vehicles is that the control sticks sometimes don't respond as you roll from full reverse to full accel. Would be better to imagine what Dust would have been like if they didn't split the team to waste time on Legion. Get in a vehicle > open overview > fall through map in vehicle Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy

Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 13437	Posted - 2016.05.18 15:53:00 - [11] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Remember also that Nova is starting out as us fighting on ships in space where you don't even have any room for vehicles. It's been said many times that when the core gameplay is as fun as possible - instead of being barely tolerable like Dust - they'll open up planets again and we'll have vehicles there. Assumes facts not in evidence. The demo took place inside, and aside from some lore fluff, it wasn't in space, at least not moving. Boring reality sneaking in, but physics has rules and all that. As for them making a infantry only game than expanding it with vehicles, I find that to be a poor design philosophy. They don't work as a tack on addition. As for starting out on ships in space, I laugh heartily at how poorly a corridor shooter with no views of the outside world will do. Why do YOU need to be reminded about the "ten year plan"? Here, lets go back to 2012, https://youtu.be/jbzN4G_geKI?t=408 isn't in funny how they are still focused on making a "good shooter experience". I wish them the best of luck, but don't act like we haven't seen all these statements before. Its a bloody recycle of the promises with Dust, just with less actual ambition. 1. Have you even bothered keeping up with the press? It was mentioned multiple times by CCP and even multiple videos on YouTube showed the screens indicating that the fights were taking place on board a Chimera Fighter Carrier which is a Caldari ship in space. Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLGdp9lp2Kw https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=227484&find=unread 2. Actually, the map was just a little too big for 6v6 which explains why only so few players ran into the one room inside the ship where you can see what looks like a Naga battle cruiser in space. Source (second image on the article): http://www.polygon.com/2016/4/21/11477884/ccp-project-nova-pc-eve-online Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 13437	Posted - 2016.05.18 15:57:00 - [12] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Eve players were promised first acces to the Dust 514 beta...lol So much butthurt when we Sony PSN adherents got in first...lol! The outcry from the EVE latecomers was great and add in the added butthurt from the Fanfest 2012 attendees in April who did not get to play till we got there first to the Dust 514 closed beta...lol. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/new-dev-blog-dust-514-closed-beta-signup-now-live/ Actually, the Dev Blog you linked specifically mentions the following: "For now, registration is available exclusively to active subscribers of EVE Online who will join the pool of participants that we will be using to allow entry into early testing and special events for DUST 514. Registration for MorduGÇÖs Private Trials does not guarantee entry, but as an active EVE subscriber, you are the first to have access to sign up for the closed beta." - CCP Cmdr Wang (no longer working there) It is also very likely that the alpha testers were Eve players since it was originally brought up in one of the earlier fanfests (I think 2009). Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 13437	Posted - 2016.05.18 16:00:00 - [13] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Why do YOU need to be reminded about the "ten year plan"? Here, lets go back to 2012, https://youtu.be/jbzN4G_geKI?t=408 isn't in funny how they are still focused on making a "good shooter experience". Why do YOU need to be reminded about the difference between that guy in the video and Rattati? Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2774	Posted - 2016.05.18 16:03:00 - [14] - Quote But you forget that salt is what eve players are made of and maybe a bit of quafe. Am ded.
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 13437	Posted - 2016.05.18 16:06:00 - [15] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: But you forget that salt is what eve players are made of and maybe a bit of quafe. The hamsters feed on the salt. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7307	Posted - 2016.05.18 16:47:00 - [16] - Quote I don't see the point of this thread? Congrats?
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 419	Posted - 2016.05.18 17:21:00 - [17] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: 1. Have you even bothered keeping up with the press? It was mentioned multiple times by CCP and even multiple videos on YouTube showed the screens indicating that the fights were taking place on board a Chimera Fighter Carrier which is a Caldari ship in space. Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLGdp9lp2Kw https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=227484&find=unread 2. Actually, the map was just a little too big for 6v6 which explains why only so few players ran into the one room inside the ship where you can see what looks like a Naga battle cruiser in space. Source (second image on the article): http://www.polygon.com/2016/4/21/11477884/ccp-project-nova-pc-eve-online No faith in press images. I think you catch a glimpse of the room in Kirks third video, but with all the grey on grey, its hard to tell. But of course it wasn't in space in new eden, its just some window dressing. The gravity makes no sense as soon as you see outside, but I guess that doesn't really matter, since authentic artificial gravity would make people freak out. Playing inside a representation of a carrier is still pointless, because CCP will NEVER allow people destroy ships from the inside. So pretending you are inside a carrier is all fine and good, but it will never be connected to new eden that way. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 419	Posted - 2016.05.18 17:27:00 - [18] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Press Attache wrote: Why do YOU need to be reminded about the "ten year plan"? Here, lets go back to 2012, https://youtu.be/jbzN4G_geKI?t=408 isn't in funny how they are still focused on making a "good shooter experience". Why do YOU need to be reminded about the difference between that guy in the video and Rattati? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. I'd rather play the game Laurino wanted to make than what Rattati is planning, but I came to dust for persistence, and a connection to new eden. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
Atiim Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 16223	Posted - 2016.05.18 18:22:00 - [19] - Quote Jenny Tales wrote: It's ******* ridiculous how old this game is, but how much better it is than most console shooters. I liked DUST 514, but that's a very generous over exaggeration. Jenny Tales wrote: And how they're going to ruin it by getting rid of vehicles in Nova... Source? The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 13437	Posted - 2016.05.18 19:36:00 - [20] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: 1. Have you even bothered keeping up with the press? It was mentioned multiple times by CCP and even multiple videos on YouTube showed the screens indicating that the fights were taking place on board a Chimera Fighter Carrier which is a Caldari ship in space. Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLGdp9lp2Kw https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=227484&find=unread 2. Actually, the map was just a little too big for 6v6 which explains why only so few players ran into the one room inside the ship where you can see what looks like a Naga battle cruiser in space. Source (second image on the article): http://www.polygon.com/2016/4/21/11477884/ccp-project-nova-pc-eve-online No faith in press images. I think you catch a glimpse of the room in Kirks third video, but with all the grey on grey, its hard to tell. But of course it wasn't in space in new eden, its just some window dressing. The gravity makes no sense as soon as you see outside, but I guess that doesn't really matter, since authentic artificial gravity would make people freak out. Playing inside a representation of a carrier is still pointless, because CCP will NEVER allow people destroy ships from the inside. So pretending you are inside a carrier is all fine and good, but it will never be connected to new eden that way. That wasn't my point. Your statement made it seem like it wasn't in space. I don't care if that's all just window dressing. The point here is that parts of the ship gave us the impression that we are fighting in space. The only beef I have with the map though is that the rest of the map didn't give us that impression and I recall CCP Rattati and CCP Frame bringing that up saying they will try to address that issue as they continue to develop Nova. As for the gravity part, this is sci-fi for crying out loud. We are practically about 24,000 years into the future. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy

Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 13438	Posted - 2016.05.18 19:41:00 - [21] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Press Attache wrote: Why do YOU need to be reminded about the "ten year plan"? Here, lets go back to 2012, https://youtu.be/jbzN4G_geKI?t=408 isn't in funny how they are still focused on making a "good shooter experience". Why do YOU need to be reminded about the difference between that guy in the video and Rattati? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. I'd rather play the game Laurino wanted to make than what Rattati is planning, but I came to dust for persistence, and a connection to new eden. That's CCP Jian if I remember correctly. As far as I can tell from experience, at least Rattati delivered more on his promises compared to this guy. I would rather trust someone who actually delivered more than the other guy. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 4183	Posted - 2016.05.18 20:57:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: Jenny Tales wrote: It's ******* ridiculous how old this game is, but how much better it is than most console shooters. I liked DUST 514, but that's a very generous over exaggeration. Jenny Tales wrote: And how they're going to ruin it by getting rid of vehicles in Nova... Source? http://biomassed.net/2016/04/24/what-we-know-about-project-nova-so-far/ https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/04/25/project-nova-eve-online/ There will be little snippets in there stating that vehicles will not be in launch, and heavy hints that if they can't make vehicles well, they won't bother. Hence a thread I made some time ago expressing my unending rage. 99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg Bittervet ADS pilot, redheads are hot.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 1051	Posted - 2016.05.18 21:15:00 - [23] - Quote Jenny Tales wrote: It's ******* ridiculous how old this game is, but how much better it is than most console shooters. And how they're going to ruin it by getting rid of vehicles in Nova... Awesome more vehicle tears. Keep them rolling. Go play World of Tanks on PS4. I just got it 2 days ago and I am rather enjoying it.
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 419	Posted - 2016.05.19 06:19:00 - [24] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: As for the gravity part, this is sci-fi for crying out loud. We are practically about 24,000 years into the future. The laws of physics give no f*cks. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 419	Posted - 2016.05.19 06:22:00 - [25] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: That's CCP Jian if I remember correctly. As far as I can tell from experience, at least Rattati delivered more on his promises compared to this guy. I would rather trust someone who actually delivered more than the other guy. Well, considering the underwhelming vehicle work, and the horrid jump garbage, Rattati took the game backwards to me. Hitscan lobby shooter with jumpy trash? Thats a paddlin'. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
Tech Ohm Eaven Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1988	Posted - 2016.05.19 09:53:00 - [26] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Eve players were promised first acces to the Dust 514 beta...lol So much butthurt when we Sony PSN adherents got in first...lol! The outcry from the EVE latecomers was great and add in the added butthurt from the Fanfest 2012 attendees in April who did not get to play till we got there first to the Dust 514 closed beta...lol. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/new-dev-blog-dust-514-closed-beta-signup-now-live/ Actually, the Dev Blog you linked specifically mentions the following: "For now, registration is available exclusively to active subscribers of EVE Online who will join the pool of participants that we will be using to allow entry into early testing and special events for DUST 514. Registration for MorduGÇÖs Private Trials does not guarantee entry, but as an active EVE subscriber, you are the first to have access to sign up for the closed beta." - CCP Cmdr Wang (no longer working there) It is also very likely that the alpha testers were Eve players since it was originally brought up in one of the earlier fanfests (I think 2009). Who owns psn? Its not ccp but for reals psn is property of sony and thus it was sony who sent out several waves of server stress test keys for dust 514 tests on psn While we psn master race got to play the great unwashed of fanfest had to wait several weekends before they were able to play. In other words those who got to play first called sony and requested an early access beta key to participate in dust 514 stress tests on psn before ccp or anyone at ccp got keys for the great unwashed of fanfest. Comprende?
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 8021	Posted - 2016.05.19 11:57:00 - [27] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Remember also that Nova is starting out as us fighting on ships in space where you don't even have any room for vehicles. It's been said many times that when the core gameplay is as fun as possible - instead of being barely tolerable like Dust - they'll open up planets again and we'll have vehicles there. Assumes facts not in evidence. The demo took place inside, and aside from some lore fluff, it wasn't in space, at least not moving. Boring reality sneaking in, but physics has rules and all that. As for them making a infantry only game than expanding it with vehicles, I find that to be a poor design philosophy. They don't work as a tack on addition. As for starting out on ships in space, I laugh heartily at how poorly a corridor shooter with no views of the outside world will do. Why do YOU need to be reminded about the "ten year plan"? Here, lets go back to 2012, https://youtu.be/jbzN4G_geKI?t=408 isn't in funny how they are still focused on making a "good shooter experience". I wish them the best of luck, but don't act like we haven't seen all these statements before. Its a bloody recycle of the promises with Dust, just with less actual ambition. Well if you ignore the descriptions of the FanFest attendees of how cool it was to look out the windows and see the fleet in space outside, it might make sense to make your assertions. As well, would you describe every single feature ever added to every MMO as a "tack-on addition"? Adding new ways to play is pretty common for MMOs even many years into their lifespan. Do you want another Dust 514, or do you want a game actually worthy of having EVE in front of it's name? Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 419	Posted - 2016.05.19 15:40:00 - [28] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: As well, would you describe every single feature ever added to every MMO as a "tack-on addition"? Adding new ways to play is pretty common for MMOs even many years into their lifespan. Do you want another Dust 514, or do you want a game actually worthy of having EVE in front of it's name? Nova isn't an MMO. Its an FPS. Name a shooter that introduced vehicles after launch. The only one I can think of is Heroes and Generals, and its still in beta, and oof the issues it is having with Armor. The differences between an infantry only shooter and one with vehicles are not to be dismissed. From map design, to movement speeds, and more. You either design them from the ground up with vehicles in mind, or you don't. It also seems like Rattati doesn't like vehicles, so I don't expect there to be a push from the top to get vehicles in the game. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 13439	Posted - 2016.05.19 16:59:00 - [29] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Eve players were promised first acces to the Dust 514 beta...lol So much butthurt when we Sony PSN adherents got in first...lol! The outcry from the EVE latecomers was great and add in the added butthurt from the Fanfest 2012 attendees in April who did not get to play till we got there first to the Dust 514 closed beta...lol. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/new-dev-blog-dust-514-closed-beta-signup-now-live/ Actually, the Dev Blog you linked specifically mentions the following: "For now, registration is available exclusively to active subscribers of EVE Online who will join the pool of participants that we will be using to allow entry into early testing and special events for DUST 514. Registration for MorduGÇÖs Private Trials does not guarantee entry, but as an active EVE subscriber, you are the first to have access to sign up for the closed beta." - CCP Cmdr Wang (no longer working there) It is also very likely that the alpha testers were Eve players since it was originally brought up in one of the earlier fanfests (I think 2009). Who owns psn? Its not ccp but for reals psn is property of sony and thus it was sony who sent out several waves of server stress test keys for dust 514 tests on psn While we psn master race got to play the great unwashed of fanfest had to wait several weekends before they were able to play. In other words those who got to play first called sony and requested an early access beta key to participate in dust 514 stress tests on psn before ccp or anyone at ccp got keys for the great unwashed of fanfest. Comprende? Kristofer touborg lead design said ''we do have some psn users in now'' when asked why no fanfest users had keys to dust 514 Lol at someone calling me a ''sony veteran tester'' And I'm willing to bet that those "PSN users" happen to be Eve Online players who just so happen to have a PS3 sitting around. Don't think that all PC users don't have a console sitting around. I know I did. Hell, I even have the X360, Wii, WiiU, and 3Ds XL. Cross Platform gaming is best gaming. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 1051	Posted - 2016.05.19 22:08:00 - [30] - Quote Press Attache wrote: It also seems like Rattati doesn't like vehicles, so I don't expect there to be a push from the top to get vehicles in the game. Did you miss all the work Rattati did to make vehicles viable? What about all the work turning random stuff into A/V just to try to get to some balancing point so that vehicles could advance without doing more harm the game? If there is not a push for vehicles it is because in Dust they wasted probably thousands of man hours for a result of lost players and lost money. We can all play blame games on it being vehicle vs a/v meta fighting making balance near impossible, or on whiny players, or on a lack of developer resources but the fact is it all stemmed from the fact that vehicles were very sloppily setup in the first place and never having a hint of a foundation to work from. With that being said why would you rush vehicles into the new game and absolutely repeat the same mistakes. The buzz line for Rattati has been that if they cant do something right they are not going to do it and I would argue that vehicles proved to be something that with out a MAJOR investment of resources can not be done right. If you look at the few games that do mix vehicles and infantry you will find that they have teams bigger than the whole CCP Shanghai studio committed to just vehicles and even then they have to move incredibly slow and do insane amounts of QA. If you don't like the fact that vehicles are not going to be in the possible launch of Nova then yell at Hilmar for dedicating so much of everything CCP has to VR crap forcing Rattati to have to make concessions in what can and can not be worked on. Dust has proven that a FPS even in terrible shape can be profitable and VR thanks to its barriers for entry still is and will remain a niche market for some time now yet VR gets all the focus while on the FPS side we get a shutdown game and yet another possible vaporware situation because CCP can not even make a commitment to itself and its customers.



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