DUST Search - Interesting Correlation I've noticed.

Fox Gaden wrote:

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

Did not play it and it did not look impressive.

Features lacking, dumbing down of the game in general and across the board, bland and very very vauge statements from CCP devs about how its moving towards x and we will do y and i have already heard it all before years ago.

Hilmar looked bored when announcing it and also mentioned about how they will axe failing projects and not drag them on like they have done before and what is Nova? a project, not even greenlit and can be axed at any moment.

But pretty graphics you will say and gameplay>graphics, i would play minecraft graphics if its good, MAG example

But you will say but its mechanics are better for an FPS now which frankly on UE4 it should be but then they are other problems such as the dumbing down of the game which will make the gameplay a poor experience, jump jets because gotta attract that COD crowd, bloody screen so real!!!, no real evidence of an MMO experience being delivered or even that vehicles will be brought back in and don't forget about cheaters on PC. MGO3 prime example of good mechanics but very **** gameplay.

But its on PC now!!! yes and still only going to be 16v16 on a more powerful platform, i might aswell play BF4.

It is deja vu all over again, they may get a second chance from CCP but this time actions have to speak.

And post #6 proves the OP's point.

Keep in mind they are not even in Alpha yet. Unlike Project Legion, Nova has gotten as far as actually being playable at FanFest, but they have been working on it less than 6 months, so what do you expect?

Not sure what you mean by Dumbed down. Do you mean because on day one you only get access to 6 to 8 pre-made fits? You do know that you will be able to switch items on fits once you unlock those items right? As I understand it, Nova vets will have the same fitting freedom that DUST vets had, once they have played long enough to unlock all the weapons/equipment/modules they want to use.

CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''

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byte modal 684	Posted - 2016.04.25 05:03:00 - [31] - Quote lol. kitten bacon taco (nom)
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4735	Posted - 2016.04.25 14:31:00 - [32] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Heh, these people...they'd rather the game get axed so we can't have fun, probably non PC players anyways Unlucky for you all i play is PC right now. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7166	Posted - 2016.04.25 14:34:00 - [33] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Heh, these people...they'd rather the game get axed so we can't have fun, probably non PC players anyways Unlucky for you all i play is PC right now. Don't see how that's unlucky?
Leither Yiltron Commando Perkone Caldari State 1345	Posted - 2016.04.25 14:34:00 - [34] - Quote Nah Have a pony
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3750	Posted - 2016.04.25 15:39:00 - [35] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Everyone who played Nova loved it Everyone who -didn't- play Nova instantly went into a hilarious assault on how it is bland, mediocre, and CCP is the devil because of lacking features. For shame. Well to be fair, the Dusters who dare not come to a Fanfest for fear of another Rouge Wedding were given an Announcement from Hilmar that consisted of "yeah we are working on it". Followed by an interview that said, we are scaling everything back, followed by leaked footage of imported DUST assets and some new corridors. By Comparison those at Gangway, who are mostly EvE players at heart are judging it by what they see, which is a pretty solid, but basic shooter. You will probably notice, now that more information has been made available to the Community that allayies most of our concerns, this correlation will drop as DUST players see the progress being made. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3750	Posted - 2016.04.25 15:41:00 - [36] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Heh, these people...they'd rather the game get axed so we can't have fun, probably non PC players anyways Unlucky for you all i play is PC right now. Don't see how that's unlucky? Because it means we likely have to put up with Taki's incesent whining for yet another game. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 1034	Posted - 2016.04.25 15:46:00 - [37] - Quote Or people enthusiastic enough to go to fanfest are more likely to be pro whatever CCP produces It's better now that we have more info, but when they first announced it the ambition of the game was lacking/not shown ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4735	Posted - 2016.04.25 15:54:00 - [38] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Heh, these people...they'd rather the game get axed so we can't have fun, probably non PC players anyways Unlucky for you all i play is PC right now. Don't see how that's unlucky? Because it means we likely have to put up with Taki's incesent whining for yet another game. Unlucky but wrong again, though i could easily say the same about you and others but at this rate no vehicles anyways so no stupid AV'ers either. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7167	Posted - 2016.04.25 16:20:00 - [39] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Heh, these people...they'd rather the game get axed so we can't have fun, probably non PC players anyways Unlucky for you all i play is PC right now. Don't see how that's unlucky? Because it means we likely have to put up with Taki's incesent whining for yet another game. Unlucky but wrong again, though i could easily say the same about you and others but at this rate no vehicles anyways so no stupid AV'ers either. Man let them do their thing..it will fall in place.. Maybe the fact that I also have gungame is the difference to why I'm not butthurt about my ads and tank not being implemented first
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3753	Posted - 2016.04.25 17:21:00 - [40] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Heh, these people...they'd rather the game get axed so we can't have fun, probably non PC players anyways Unlucky for you all i play is PC right now. Don't see how that's unlucky? Because it means we likely have to put up with Taki's incesent whining for yet another game. Unlucky but wrong again, though i could easily say the same about you and others but at this rate no vehicles anyways so no stupid AV'ers either. Indeed just the Old AVers enjoying the infantry side of the game without t having to spend a whole match scaring you off, because we aren't allowed to kill you. Because that's unfair. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 29562	Posted - 2016.04.25 17:25:00 - [41] - Quote The correct opinion is green shotgun plasma!!! Everything has to come to an end, sometime.
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7174	Posted - 2016.04.25 17:29:00 - [42] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: The correct opinion is green shotgun plasma!!! In the butt
byte modal 685	Posted - 2016.04.25 17:41:00 - [43] - Quote What, what? kitten bacon taco (nom)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 22346	Posted - 2016.04.25 17:52:00 - [44] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Everyone who played Nova loved it Everyone who -didn't- play Nova instantly went into a hilarious assault on how it is bland, mediocre, and CCP is the devil because of lacking features. For shame. Shakes his head sadly.... It's quite hilarious. It's like these people want to be miserable at every chance they get. Waves that dye the land gold. Blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat. A path the Sef descend drawn in ash.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 7633	Posted - 2016.04.25 19:03:00 - [45] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Everyone who played Nova loved it Everyone who -didn't- play Nova instantly went into a hilarious assault on how it is bland, mediocre, and CCP is the devil because of lacking features. For shame. It should improve a bit once more people read the articles where Rattati clearly states that the demo contained core game mechanics only, and all the MMO stuff has yet to be added. The demo is only meant to show that combat is smooth and enjoyable. If you want to mess with fittings, wait for the Alpha or Bata (depending on how well connected you are). Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 7636	Posted - 2016.04.25 19:13:00 - [46] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Did not play it and it did not look impressive. Features lacking, dumbing down of the game in general and across the board, bland and very very vauge statements from CCP devs about how its moving towards x and we will do y and i have already heard it all before years ago. Hilmar looked bored when announcing it and also mentioned about how they will axe failing projects and not drag them on like they have done before and what is Nova? a project, not even greenlit and can be axed at any moment. But pretty graphics you will say and gameplay>graphics, i would play minecraft graphics if its good, MAG example But you will say but its mechanics are better for an FPS now which frankly on UE4 it should be but then they are other problems such as the dumbing down of the game which will make the gameplay a poor experience, jump jets because gotta attract that COD crowd, bloody screen so real!!!, no real evidence of an MMO experience being delivered or even that vehicles will be brought back in and don't forget about cheaters on PC. MGO3 prime example of good mechanics but very **** gameplay. But its on PC now!!! yes and still only going to be 16v16 on a more powerful platform, i might aswell play BF4. It is deja vu all over again, they may get a second chance from CCP but this time actions have to speak. And post #6 proves the OP's point. Keep in mind they are not even in Alpha yet. Unlike Project Legion, Nova has gotten as far as actually being playable at FanFest, but they have been working on it less than 6 months, so what do you expect? Not sure what you mean by Dumbed down. Do you mean because on day one you only get access to 6 to 8 pre-made fits? You do know that you will be able to switch items on fits once you unlock those items right? As I understand it, Nova vets will have the same fitting freedom that DUST vets had, once they have played long enough to unlock all the weapons/equipment/modules they want to use. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 7636	Posted - 2016.04.25 19:23:00 - [47] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: A interesting corelation: People that played Nova are CCP fanboys cause ya know Eve fanfest. So everything that gets presented there only gets praise by CCP fanboys. Everybody who gives negative comments probs has more experience in the FPS gaming scene then 95% of the eve players who like to mine in a spaceship and watch MLP on their browser at the same time. A valid point as long as you are criticizing what you are seeing in the the video footage of people playing the demo. If you are criticizing what you are not seeing in the demo footage, then let us reiterate that this is a very early build and most everything that does not relate directly to combat has not been added yet. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4743	Posted - 2016.04.25 22:20:00 - [48] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Man let them do their thing..it will fall in place.. Maybe the fact that I also have gungame is the difference to why I'm not butthurt about my ads and tank not being implemented first Maybe, maybe not. KB/M means jack but im in it for the vehicles, be intresting to see who makes an aimbot for it first. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4743	Posted - 2016.04.25 22:21:00 - [49] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Indeed just the Old AVers enjoying the infantry side of the game without t having to spend a whole match scaring you off, because we aren't allowed to kill you. Because that's unfair. Last i checked vehicles has engines for movement, sorry i didn't stay still for your scrub launcher to lock on, oh wait you could lock on through cover. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4743	Posted - 2016.04.25 22:26:00 - [50] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Did not play it and it did not look impressive. Features lacking, dumbing down of the game in general and across the board, bland and very very vauge statements from CCP devs about how its moving towards x and we will do y and i have already heard it all before years ago. Hilmar looked bored when announcing it and also mentioned about how they will axe failing projects and not drag them on like they have done before and what is Nova? a project, not even greenlit and can be axed at any moment. But pretty graphics you will say and gameplay>graphics, i would play minecraft graphics if its good, MAG example But you will say but its mechanics are better for an FPS now which frankly on UE4 it should be but then they are other problems such as the dumbing down of the game which will make the gameplay a poor experience, jump jets because gotta attract that COD crowd, bloody screen so real!!!, no real evidence of an MMO experience being delivered or even that vehicles will be brought back in and don't forget about cheaters on PC. MGO3 prime example of good mechanics but very ** gameplay. But its on PC now!!! yes and still only going to be 16v16 on a more powerful platform, i might aswell play BF4. It is deja vu all over again, they may get a second chance from CCP but this time actions have to speak. And post #6 proves the OP's point. Keep in mind they are not even in Alpha yet. Unlike Project Legion, Nova has gotten as far as actually being playable at FanFest, but they have been working on it less than 6 months, so what do you expect? Not sure what you mean by Dumbed down. Do you mean because on day one you only get access to 6 to 8 pre-made fits? You do know that you will be able to switch items on fits once you unlock those items right? As I understand it, Nova vets will have the same fitting freedom that DUST vets had, once they have played long enough to unlock all the weapons/equipment/modules they want to use. OP post proves jack ** and frankly i don't think you have read the various bits of info leaking about, you are reading what you want to read and hoping for the best on blind optimism. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''

Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7192	Posted - 2016.04.25 22:42:00 - [51] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Man let them do their thing..it will fall in place.. Maybe the fact that I also have gungame is the difference to why I'm not butthurt about my ads and tank not being implemented first Maybe, maybe not. KB/M means jack but im in it for the vehicles, be intresting to see who makes an aimbot for it first. I feel you there..but Arma seems to do a good job with mods
Aeon Amadi 13918	Posted - 2016.04.25 23:17:00 - [52] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: And don't forget that this demo was probably running on servers in the next room, so there would have been no lag. When the alpha comes out, we get to see what lag does to the game.... Game was running a dedicated server, not a LAN setup. Sorry to break your heart :P True Adamance wrote: Shakes his head sadly.... It's quite hilarious. It's like these people want to be miserable at every chance they get. Took the words right out of my fingertips. I'm fully convinced that there is literally nothing that would make the Dust 514 community happy and for that reason I'm all but prepared to simply not care about the constant barrage of pessimism. It'd be one thing if there were some nuggets of constructive criticism and positive vibes, but it is literally just bitching about what all the gameplay wasn't and the experiences they had from devs who are no longer even at CCP. -Shrug- Some people just want to be unhappy. Takahiro Kashuken wrote: OP post proves jack **** and frankly i don't think you have read the various bits of info leaking about, you are reading what you want to read and hoping for the best on blind optimism. On the other side of the coin, a lot of people are reading what they want to read (we call this confirmation bias, btw) and literally only seeing nothing but negativity and mediocrity because it's what they want to see, I suspect. Skype: Nomistrav "Bastard at Heart"
DUST Fiend 18227	Posted - 2016.04.26 00:36:00 - [53] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: . I'm fully convinced that there is literally nothing that would make the Dust 514 community happy and for that reason I'm all but prepared to simply not care about the constant barrage of pessimism. And when you decide the context of a complaint before it has been read, and in turn discard all aspects of said complaint, you would be doing your "job" inadequately at best. My brain is a dead hamster on an ever turning wheel. Feed me.
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 907	Posted - 2016.04.26 12:18:00 - [54] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: And don't forget that this demo was probably running on servers in the next room, so there would have been no lag. When the alpha comes out, we get to see what lag does to the game.... Game was running a dedicated server, not a LAN setup. Sorry to break your heart :P Proves nothing. The dedicated server was probably still only a few milliseconds away. Network lag occurs when people on different sides of the world try to play against each other over the internet.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 7647	Posted - 2016.04.26 12:21:00 - [55] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: The jump jets alone turn me off. I hate that puerile stuff. But it's the sort of thing the 12 year olds like so I guess it has to be there. The way I look at jump jets is to ask myself: 1) Do they make sense for the technology level of the game setting? 2) Do they have a tactical benefit? For Nova I would have to answer "yes" to both of these questions, so I don't have a problem with jump jets from a Lore perspective. Then I ask myself, are jump jets game breaking? Well, I did not find that killing the Tiggers was an insurmountable challenge in DUST, and I get the impression that the Jump Jets of Nova are considerably scaled back from the passive modules we had in DUST. Did I hear mention of a cooldown or something? As I understand it, even Heavies have the ability to volt over rails or boxes in Nova, so at least in Nova we will not be forced into Jump Jets as a necessity for mobility. I think the use of Jump Jets will be less prevalent in Nova, but as you say the kids like them, and they give a tactical advantage with certain weapons and for attaining high ground, so they will have their place. It is just one more tactical consideration, like the cloak. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 907	Posted - 2016.04.26 12:22:00 - [56] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Took the words right out of my fingertips. I'm fully convinced that there is literally nothing that would make the Dust 514 community happy and for that reason I'm all but prepared to simply not care about the constant barrage of pessimism. It'd be one thing if there were some nuggets of constructive criticism and positive vibes, but it is literally just bitching about what all the gameplay wasn't and the experiences they had from devs who are no longer even at CCP. -Shrug- Some people just want to be unhappy. Wrong. I would be quite happy if they delivered what we were originally told we would get - open battles, not just the 16v16 lobby shooter style that we have now, true integration with EvE, so that we can have battles both on the ground and in space. All of this is achievable, but CCP doesn't want to do this because the current format the game has evolved into is what people now like more. It wouldn't be "too hard" but it would be too unpopular. That's why I don't think CCP will actually do this.
Happy Violentime 1412	Posted - 2016.04.26 21:35:00 - [57] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Heh, these people...they'd rather the game get axed so we can't have fun, probably non PC players anyways Enjoy your generic lobby shooter..
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7201	Posted - 2016.04.26 21:47:00 - [58] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Heh, these people...they'd rather the game get axed so we can't have fun, probably non PC players anyways Enjoy your generic lobby shooter.. I fly and tank..consider that's what I enjoy my gungame isn't too bad..it is generic now..you know during the demo when it's not even fkn greenlit =ƒæì too bad CCP actually listened to us this time and is making it so we don't have 5fps every match
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Eternal Beings 4500	Posted - 2016.04.26 22:09:00 - [59] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Did not play it and it did not look impressive. Features lacking, dumbing down of the game in general and across the board, bland and very very vauge statements from CCP devs about how its moving towards x and we will do y and i have already heard it all before years ago. Hilmar looked bored when announcing it and also mentioned about how they will axe failing projects and not drag them on like they have done before and what is Nova? a project, not even greenlit and can be axed at any moment. But pretty graphics you will say and gameplay>graphics, i would play minecraft graphics if its good, MAG example But you will say but its mechanics are better for an FPS now which frankly on UE4 it should be but then they are other problems such as the dumbing down of the game which will make the gameplay a poor experience, jump jets because gotta attract that COD crowd, bloody screen so real!!!, no real evidence of an MMO experience being delivered or even that vehicles will be brought back in and don't forget about cheaters on PC. MGO3 prime example of good mechanics but very **** gameplay. But its on PC now!!! yes and still only going to be 16v16 on a more powerful platform, i might aswell play BF4. It is deja vu all over again, they may get a second chance from CCP but this time actions have to speak. And post #6 proves the OP's point. Keep in mind they are not even in Alpha yet. Unlike Project Legion, Nova has gotten as far as actually being playable at FanFest, but they have been working on it less than 6 months, so what do you expect? Not sure what you mean by Dumbed down. Do you mean because on day one you only get access to 6 to 8 pre-made fits? You do know that you will be able to switch items on fits once you unlock those items right? As I understand it, Nova vets will have the same fitting freedom that DUST vets had, once they have played long enough to unlock all the weapons/equipment/modules they want to use. Damn it Fox why do you always have to be logical. CL, GS & MS, CA & MS, GH & MH, GM & MM are my jam/Logi/objective player first, suck at slayer Am skater w/ ASD
byte modal 707	Posted - 2016.04.26 22:43:00 - [60] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Heh, these people...they'd rather the game get axed so we can't have fun, probably non PC players anyways Enjoy your generic lobby shooter.. yew so sirry!!! But for real. How do we enjoy even a generic lobby shooter when it does. not. exist. "Hey Walt ?! WTF is that chicken-scratch stick figure thing you got scribbled down on the napkin there. wha? Some kind of mouse character you're working on? You're a damned idiot. That thing looks like what my cat crapped out this morning. There's no color, no face, and it's all just a few lines and squiggles!? Enjoy your generic "mouse" drawing.... moron." Nah, I'm not comparing CCP to ole' Disney. That's silly. Just poking fun at how stupid people come off when jumping to illogical conclusions based on ...nothing but opinion. kitten bacon taco (nom)



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