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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

Did not play it and it did not look impressive.

Features lacking, dumbing down of the game in general and across the board, bland and very very vauge statements from CCP devs about how its moving towards x and we will do y and i have already heard it all before years ago.

Hilmar looked bored when announcing it and also mentioned about how they will axe failing projects and not drag them on like they have done before and what is Nova? a project, not even greenlit and can be axed at any moment.

But pretty graphics you will say and gameplay>graphics, i would play minecraft graphics if its good, MAG example

But you will say but its mechanics are better for an FPS now which frankly on UE4 it should be but then they are other problems such as the dumbing down of the game which will make the gameplay a poor experience, jump jets because gotta attract that COD crowd, bloody screen so real!!!, no real evidence of an MMO experience being delivered or even that vehicles will be brought back in and don't forget about cheaters on PC. MGO3 prime example of good mechanics but very **** gameplay.

But its on PC now!!! yes and still only going to be 16v16 on a more powerful platform, i might aswell play BF4.

It is deja vu all over again, they may get a second chance from CCP but this time actions have to speak.

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Aeon Amadi 13883	Posted - 2016.04.24 16:12:00 - [1] - Quote Everyone who played Nova loved it Everyone who -didn't- play Nova instantly went into a hilarious assault on how it is bland, mediocre, and CCP is the devil because of lacking features. For shame. Skype: Nomistrav "Bastard at Heart"
Lord Vahzz 298	Posted - 2016.04.24 16:17:00 - [2] - Quote I didn't play it. I like it. CCP is indeed the devil. Hilmar will take you all down one day, as we battle for earth's survival using our powerful Schwartz. May the Schwartz be with you. There is a fine line between not listening and not caring, I like to think i walk that line every day of my life.
Happy Violentime 1406	Posted - 2016.04.24 17:58:00 - [3] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Everyone who played Nova loved it They also love Eve... Nuff said.
byte modal 678	Posted - 2016.04.24 18:08:00 - [4] - Quote You all need to stop playing with it. You'll go blind. But i generally agree. If i could have played with it I'm sure i would have enjoyed it. kitten bacon taco (nom)
7th Son 7 Hakuna Matatah Inc 1600	Posted - 2016.04.24 18:09:00 - [5] - Quote I've watched the demos and i've read all interviews to date, and i'm excited as sh!t man! Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4727	Posted - 2016.04.24 21:28:00 - [6] - Quote Did not play it and it did not look impressive. Features lacking, dumbing down of the game in general and across the board, bland and very very vauge statements from CCP devs about how its moving towards x and we will do y and i have already heard it all before years ago. Hilmar looked bored when announcing it and also mentioned about how they will axe failing projects and not drag them on like they have done before and what is Nova? a project, not even greenlit and can be axed at any moment. But pretty graphics you will say and gameplay>graphics, i would play minecraft graphics if its good, MAG example But you will say but its mechanics are better for an FPS now which frankly on UE4 it should be but then they are other problems such as the dumbing down of the game which will make the gameplay a poor experience, jump jets because gotta attract that COD crowd, bloody screen so real!!!, no real evidence of an MMO experience being delivered or even that vehicles will be brought back in and don't forget about cheaters on PC. MGO3 prime example of good mechanics but very **** gameplay. But its on PC now!!! yes and still only going to be 16v16 on a more powerful platform, i might aswell play BF4. It is deja vu all over again, they may get a second chance from CCP but this time actions have to speak. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1398	Posted - 2016.04.24 22:50:00 - [7] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Did not play it and it did not look impressive. Features lacking, dumbing down of the game in general and across the board, bland and very very vauge statements from CCP devs about how its moving towards x and we will do y and i have already heard it all before years ago. Hilmar looked bored when announcing it and also mentioned about how they will axe failing projects and not drag them on like they have done before and what is Nova? a project, not even greenlit and can be axed at any moment. But pretty graphics you will say and gameplay>graphics, i would play minecraft graphics if its good, MAG example But you will say but its mechanics are better for an FPS now which frankly on UE4 it should be but then they are other problems such as the dumbing down of the game which will make the gameplay a poor experience, jump jets because gotta attract that COD crowd, bloody screen so real!!!, no real evidence of an MMO experience being delivered or even that vehicles will be brought back in and don't forget about cheaters on PC. MGO3 prime example of good mechanics but very ** gameplay. But its on PC now!!! yes and still only going to be 16v16 on a more powerful platform, i might aswell play BF4. It is deja vu all over again, they may get a second chance from CCP but this time actions have to speak. They're working on improving the basic fps mechanics first, so you're going to judge them based on what you've seen... That makes no sense. Only people there can really (accurately) judge what they have so far. Takahiro Kashuken wrote: and don't forget about cheaters on PC Right, on PC... Lets just ignore that it happens on the consoles too... Takahiro Kashuken wrote:** But its on PC now!!! yes and still only going to be 16v16 on a more powerful platform, i might aswell play BF4. Changing player count shouldn't be too difficult, so when they aim for 16 v 16 it's not exactly set in stone... But lets take into account just how MAG died, not enough players, for a long time before it died queues had been stupidly long for anything other than the smallest game modes.
Lightning35 Delta514 Federation Marines 62 4662	Posted - 2016.04.24 22:54:00 - [8] - Quote I loved it (go look at my post somewhere) I was actually quite annoyed seeing people rant about it when it's specifically a demo and not even an alpha yet. Like, instead of saying crap about it, people should idk maybe ENCOURAGE CCP. My shotgun though, nice green GALLENTE PLASMA. GALLENTE FREEDOM QUAFE!!! CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company Gallente Loyalist - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 67m SP
james selim brownstein NECROM0NGERS 353	Posted - 2016.04.24 22:56:00 - [9] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: I loved it (go look at my post somewhere) I was actually quite annoyed seeing people rant about it when it's specifically a demo and not even an alpha yet. Like, instead of saying crap about it, people should idk maybe ENCOURAGE CCP. My shotgun though, nice green GALLENTE PLASMA. GALLENTE FREEDOM QUAFE!!! dis. n++Gòª¦¦¦¦-ç¦+¦+¦+¦+ WAITING FOR PROJECT NOVAGòñGöÇGöÇGöÇ Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ë
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 4025	Posted - 2016.04.24 23:36:00 - [10] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Everyone who played Nova loved it Everyone who -didn't- play Nova instantly went into a hilarious assault on how it is bland, mediocre, and CCP is the devil because of lacking features. For shame. Master of false dichotomies, misrepresentation and other assorted logical fallacies, Aeon Amadi everyone. I'm sure it's completely binary; absolutely no one could have played it and not liked it, and absolutely no one who didn't play it could like it! And of course people who didn't like it couldn't possibly have logical, well founded, or reasonably concluded basis for not liking it... and remember no one ever changes their opinions. EVER. You have to make a decision and you can never be inconsistent upon it. And people who like it absolutely can't have any reason for it either! If there were medals for it, I'm sure you'd get bronze in mental gymnastics. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1911	Posted - 2016.04.25 00:13:00 - [11] - Quote A interesting corelation: People that played Nova are CCP fanboys cause ya know Eve fanfest. So everything that gets presented there only gets praise by CCP fanboys. Everybody who gives negative comments probs has more experience in the FPS gaming scene then 95% of the eve players who like to mine in a spaceship and watch MLP on their browser at the same time. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4730	Posted - 2016.04.25 00:47:00 - [12] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: They're working on improving the basic fps mechanics first, so you're going to judge them based on what you've seen... That makes no sense. Only people there can really (accurately) judge what they have so far. Right, on PC... Lets just ignore that it happens on the consoles too... Changing player count shouldn't be too difficult, so when they aim for 16 v 16 it's not exactly set in stone... But lets take into account just how MAG died, not enough players, for a long time before it died queues had been stupidly long for anything other than the smallest game modes. What was stopping them of showing other things at a roundtable? Cheating on PC is more common and harder to deal with. MAG died due to 1.03 and the great d/c of domination and letting the servers slide, when it was fine it kept its numbers up but a series of mistakes drove players away. CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Imperium Eden 4459	Posted - 2016.04.25 03:20:00 - [13] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Everyone who played Nova loved it Everyone who -didn't- play Nova instantly went into a hilarious assault on how it is bland, mediocre, and CCP is the devil because of lacking features. For shame. Not to counter or nitpicking, but the environment says a lot. Big convention, lots of people, other side of the world, something can go to people's heads fairly effectively. I mean, DUST had the same reviews from people who played it originally other than "ewww, consoles!" And "everyone who didn't play it [bitched]" assumes that everyone who didn't play it only has negative views or even have criticisms/concerns that are unjustified. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 875	Posted - 2016.04.25 03:40:00 - [14] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Everyone who played Nova loved it Everyone who -didn't- play Nova instantly went into a hilarious assault on how it is bland, mediocre, and CCP is the devil because of lacking features. For shame. There are those of us for whom the basic premise of the game itself is a problem. Plus the fact that CCP have seen fit not to make this demo available generally, and probably won't even after Dust shuts down. There are plenty of reasons for people who haven't played it not to like it. If CCP wants more people to like it, they'd better get the alpha out as fast as possible.
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 875	Posted - 2016.04.25 03:42:00 - [15] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Did not play it and it did not look impressive. Features lacking, dumbing down of the game in general and across the board, bland and very very vauge statements from CCP devs about how its moving towards x and we will do y and i have already heard it all before years ago. Hilmar looked bored when announcing it and also mentioned about how they will axe failing projects and not drag them on like they have done before and what is Nova? a project, not even greenlit and can be axed at any moment. But pretty graphics you will say and gameplay>graphics, i would play minecraft graphics if its good, MAG example But you will say but its mechanics are better for an FPS now which frankly on UE4 it should be but then they are other problems such as the dumbing down of the game which will make the gameplay a poor experience, jump jets because gotta attract that COD crowd, bloody screen so real!!!, no real evidence of an MMO experience being delivered or even that vehicles will be brought back in and don't forget about cheaters on PC. MGO3 prime example of good mechanics but very **** gameplay. But its on PC now!!! yes and still only going to be 16v16 on a more powerful platform, i might aswell play BF4. It is deja vu all over again, they may get a second chance from CCP but this time actions have to speak. The jump jets alone turn me off. I hate that puerile stuff. But it's the sort of thing the 12 year olds like so I guess it has to be there.
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7161	Posted - 2016.04.25 03:44:00 - [16] - Quote Heh, these people...they'd rather the game get axed so we can't have fun, probably non PC players anyways
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 875	Posted - 2016.04.25 03:47:00 - [17] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: And remember, whenever someone supports their arguments just trot out Quote: THEY'RE WORKING ON MAKING IT A FPS FIRST AND FOREMOST, OTHER STUFF WILL COME LATER because actually addressing and engaging with opposing viewpoints is hard, it's easier just to just be snide or use meaningless appeals to emotion and platitudes. Whenever I read that, I turn off the game even more. It should not be a FPS first and foremost. Dust wasn't, why should this be? In any case, to my mind, it should be something a helluva lot more than just another FPS.
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 875	Posted - 2016.04.25 03:49:00 - [18] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Everyone who played Nova loved it Everyone who -didn't- play Nova instantly went into a hilarious assault on how it is bland, mediocre, and CCP is the devil because of lacking features. For shame. Not to counter or nitpicking, but the environment says a lot. Big convention, lots of people, other side of the world, something can go to people's heads fairly effectively. I mean, DUST had the same reviews from people who played it originally other than "ewww, consoles!" And "everyone who didn't play it [bitched]" assumes that everyone who didn't play it only has negative views or even have criticisms/concerns that are unjustified. And don't forget that this demo was probably running on servers in the next room, so there would have been no lag. When the alpha comes out, we get to see what lag does to the game....
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7161	Posted - 2016.04.25 03:52:00 - [19] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: And remember, whenever someone supports their arguments just trot out Quote: THEY'RE WORKING ON MAKING IT A FPS FIRST AND FOREMOST, OTHER STUFF WILL COME LATER because actually addressing and engaging with opposing viewpoints is hard, it's easier just to just be snide or use meaningless appeals to emotion and platitudes. Whenever I read that, I turn off the game even more. It should not be a FPS first and foremost. Dust wasn't, why should this be? In any case, to my mind, it should be something a helluva lot more than just another FPS. Yeah dust started off with all vehicles and lav's/dropships since its demo oh and drop suits and weapons
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 875	Posted - 2016.04.25 03:52:00 - [20] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Heh, these people...they'd rather the game get axed so we can't have fun, probably non PC players anyways Personally, yes, I'd rather see it axed if they can't get the EvE connection and MMO elements right. I'm an EvE player and can't see the point in just another FPS unless there's an EvE integration. There are plenty of FPSs out there that people can play. If they aren't going to make this one different, why have it?

byte modal 682	Posted - 2016.04.25 03:53:00 - [21] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Stuff. Didn't you just post your frustrations at the unintelligent snark being thrown your way while completely missing the irony of your own post? Here you are again throwing out a string of sarcastic tantrums doing, yet again, what you criticize the very poster you are taunting of doing earlier. You post rants but when others address your points, you deflect and redirect another charge generally ignoring what is offered as counterpoint to yours. You mock a poster then when it's given back, you complain. Why are you trying so hard? It's not necessary. I really don't get people like you. Trolls I get. It's all to push people's buttons through anonymity. But based on what I usually read from you lately, i kinda get the vibe that this is a real thing for you. Are you so pissy, or is that just an online persona thing? That's a legit question. kitten bacon taco (nom)
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 875	Posted - 2016.04.25 03:53:00 - [22] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: And remember, whenever someone supports their arguments just trot out Quote: THEY'RE WORKING ON MAKING IT A FPS FIRST AND FOREMOST, OTHER STUFF WILL COME LATER because actually addressing and engaging with opposing viewpoints is hard, it's easier just to just be snide or use meaningless appeals to emotion and platitudes. Whenever I read that, I turn off the game even more. It should not be a FPS first and foremost. Dust wasn't, why should this be? In any case, to my mind, it should be something a helluva lot more than just another FPS. Yeah dust started off with all vehicles and lav's/dropships since its demo oh and drop suits and weapons No, dust started off as being the ground-based extension of EvE. All the other stuff is how it evolved because they watered it down for PS3. By the way, I don't dislike the FPS side of it, it's just that it should not be the main thing, "first and foremost". If it is, then it's not for me.
DUST Fiend 18215	Posted - 2016.04.25 04:21:00 - [23] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: And remember, whenever someone supports their arguments just trot out Quote: THEY'RE WORKING ON MAKING IT A FPS FIRST AND FOREMOST, OTHER STUFF WILL COME LATER because actually addressing and engaging with opposing viewpoints is hard, it's easier just to just be snide or use meaningless appeals to emotion and platitudes. Whenever I read that, I turn off the game even more. It should not be a FPS first and foremost. Dust wasn't, why should this be? In any case, to my mind, it should be something a helluva lot more than just another FPS. Yeah dust started off with all vehicles and lav's/dropships since its demo oh and drop suits and weapons DUST also came so close to completion and totally didn't fail to live up to its own expectations after 4 years of "it'll be better soon". I just feel like in such a competitive market with ground breaking and inovative projects coming out, it seems backwards to want to dial back the things that made DUST stand out in favor of this continuation of "back to basics" to appeal to a wider audience. I feel it's a smarter business choice given their continued desire to keep this as a side project vs a primary focus, but that it's a failing in regards to what this game could have been. Perhaps everything will get added in in due time and all will be amazing in New Eden. Perhaps it won't. It just seems like moving to PC was their chance to take bold action and instead they haven't even greenlit the project. My brain is a dead hamster on an ever turning wheel. Feed me.
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7162	Posted - 2016.04.25 04:31:00 - [24] - Quote I honestly think you guys are overthinking it..you seem to think we won't have these things but I believe we will and I bet it's by beta
DUST Fiend 18215	Posted - 2016.04.25 04:35:00 - [25] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: I honestly think you guys are overthinking it..you seem to think we won't have these things but I believe we will and I bet it's by beta I just can't give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. I had my little rant, now I'll kick back till its on my PC and I'll go at it again. My brain is a dead hamster on an ever turning wheel. Feed me.
byte modal 682	Posted - 2016.04.25 04:39:00 - [26] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: I honestly think you guys are overthinking it..you seem to think we won't have these things but I believe we will and I bet it's by beta I just can't give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. I had my little rant, now I'll kick back till its on my PC and I'll go at it again. Sucks, but i can respect that because there is a truth to it. kitten bacon taco (nom)
DUST Fiend 18215	Posted - 2016.04.25 04:41:00 - [27] - Quote byte modal wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: I honestly think you guys are overthinking it..you seem to think we won't have these things but I believe we will and I bet it's by beta I just can't give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. I had my little rant, now I'll kick back till its on my PC and I'll go at it again. Sucks, but i can respect that because there is a truth to it. I'm the classic example of an over bitter vet. Honestly I envy the rest of you who still feel the hope. I started as the biggest most unreasonable supporter of CCP and DUST, and now. Well, yea. My brain is a dead hamster on an ever turning wheel. Feed me.
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7162	Posted - 2016.04.25 04:43:00 - [28] - Quote byte modal wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: I honestly think you guys are overthinking it..you seem to think we won't have these things but I believe we will and I bet it's by beta I just can't give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. I had my little rant, now I'll kick back till its on my PC and I'll go at it again. Sucks, but i can respect that because there is a truth to it. Yep I can agree..but Ima stay positive, not get my hopes up but positive..do my part to get it greenlit
byte modal 682	Posted - 2016.04.25 04:49:00 - [29] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: byte modal wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: I honestly think you guys are overthinking it..you seem to think we won't have these things but I believe we will and I bet it's by beta I just can't give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. I had my little rant, now I'll kick back till its on my PC and I'll go at it again. Sucks, but i can respect that because there is a truth to it. I'm the classic example of an over bitter vet. Honestly I envy the rest of you who still feel the hope. I started as the biggest most unreasonable supporter of CCP and DUST, and now. Well, yea. No, i get it. It's not so much that I'm optimistic. It's 1) i cannot tollerate people who jump to conclusions and argue obviously emotional biases posed as logic. It's just a matter of obsessive principle for me. And 2) well. I forgot 2. Probably something to do with it not mattering being a game and all. May never exist so no point to get all emo one way or the other. I guess. kitten bacon taco (nom)
7th Son 7 Hakuna Matatah Inc 1606	Posted - 2016.04.25 05:01:00 - [30] - Quote byte modal wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: byte modal wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: I honestly think you guys are overthinking it..you seem to think we won't have these things but I believe we will and I bet it's by beta I just can't give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. I had my little rant, now I'll kick back till its on my PC and I'll go at it again. Sucks, but i can respect that because there is a truth to it. I'm the classic example of an over bitter vet. Honestly I envy the rest of you who still feel the hope. I started as the biggest most unreasonable supporter of CCP and DUST, and now. Well, yea. No, i get it. It's not so much that I'm optimistic. It's 1) i cannot tollerate people who jump to conclusions and argue obviously emotional biases posed as logic. It's just a matter of obsessive principle for me. And 2) well. I forgot 2. Probably something to do with it not mattering being a game and all. May never exist so no point to get all emo one way or the other. I guess. Fuk that i'm Excited! They can call it a Project, they can call it a box, they can call it a flower and they can call it a damn homeless person! And quess what? Yep i'm E X C I T E D!!!. Did you hear the sound of those weopons? Ohhh baby...... Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO



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