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Titus Stryker Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 488	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:43:00 - [1] - Quote This is an official request to not make Project Nova (whatever the new FPS in EVE will be) a generic lobby shooter. ~ We liked the diversity ~ We liked the immersion ~ We liked variety and MMO aspects, it is what made DUST unique - What you NEED is a proper "New Player Experience" and to do a better job of making new players feel like they understand what is happening and why. - I agree that you should get rid of the "teirs" so you don't have "Proto Stomping" and so that new players can compete with Veterans much faster, however, please leave the diversity in weapons and the in depth leveling up of said weapons and perks and skills. WE DO NOT WANT A CALL OF DOOTY IN THE EVE UNIVERSE Thank you and good day. Twitch & YouTube
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6960	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:44:00 - [2] - Quote Signed
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2943	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:46:00 - [3] - Quote This. Dust had the problem of sloppy shooter gameplay, so I agree that polishing that is important... but throwing out everything else? Just making a Shooter in space and that's it? Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4871	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:46:00 - [4] - Quote Definitely agree. That being said I would still like the kind of ship boarding-esque action in the demo they showed. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1294	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:46:00 - [5] - Quote Im pretty damn sure that it's not gonna stay as a lobby shooter, CCP would be stup..... I forgot this is CCP we're talking about. Project Nova Gameplay
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 901	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:47:00 - [6] - Quote Sign x 10
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1696	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:53:00 - [7] - Quote Really, how did it come to this? Thought they've learned their mistakes and all, where the hell did they get the idea that we wanted a lobby shooter. This is literally DUST 0.5 AmarrFTW "The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... " Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
Nirwanda Vaughns 1929	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:53:00 - [8] - Quote yep, to be honest i've jumped onto planetside 2 on the ps4 with a lot of old dust guys and one thing we've always said is that while the in match experience of dust was quite horrible. The out of match experience like merc quarters, skill progression, vehickle and dropsuit fittings ect are what made dust unique and essentially ruined other fps' for us. If the demo is just a 6v6 lobby shooter just to have something to play then fair play, its something easy to get up and running but i hope in future we get something more how dust/legion looked and more interactivity. I wanna be able to board ships and stations/outposts as part of alliance battles to help take systems down in persistent battles a'la planetside2 and EVE with perhpas small squad co-op mode like the fabled Drone Infestation mode. there are thousands of things we got promised and ideas the players had over the years and with freedom of PC we shoul dhopefully see if. Find me in the new world or PSN: LaughlynVaughns
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game 2607	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:53:00 - [9] - Quote Signed. You'll only find me playing Destiny now. PSN: TheMysteriousEnd (PS4/PS3) XBL: Mystend 7 (XB1/360)
4lbert Wesker Intara Direct Action Caldari State 654	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:55:00 - [10] - Quote Who's guilty is protostomping? Cummunity Community will get what they deserve. Say thanks to cancer players, say thanks to players who made new accounts just for killing newbies in academy. WESKER S.T.A.R.S. is not my corporation!

Foehammerr Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 235	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:56:00 - [11] - Quote Concur *De Opresso Liber* Beta Vet since 2/5/2013
Roy Xkillerz Red Star. 56	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:59:00 - [12] - Quote Signed. I do like good gameplay mechanics comes first but the immersion wanted me to grind in dust.
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2664	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:09:00 - [13] - Quote Lmao. Its a demo. Pls. Dont make assumptions already. If you wanna keep going then by all mean.... SALT BUCKET ENGAGED CAPTURING ALL THE NEARBY SALT. Am ded.
Titus Stryker Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 500	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:11:00 - [14] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Lmao. Its a demo. Pls. Dont make assumptions already. If you wanna keep going then by all mean.... SALT BUCKET ENGAGED CAPTURING ALL THE NEARBY SALT. It's not the demo or the footage from Fleetfoot that has me worried, it was the interview with Frame and Ratatti (?) after the presentation... Twitch & YouTube
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2946	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:11:00 - [15] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Lmao. Its a demo. Pls. Dont make assumptions already. If you wanna keep going then by all mean.... SALT BUCKET ENGAGED CAPTURING ALL THE NEARBY SALT. It would be easier to not make these assumptions, hadn't CCP said they were aiming for more in the long term. But what they said was. We are scaling down the MMO stuff and want to focus on shooter gameplay for an arena shooter. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 833	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:13:00 - [16] - Quote Titus Stryker wrote: This is an official request to not make Project Nova (whatever the new FPS in EVE will be) a generic lobby shooter. ~ We liked the diversity ~ We liked the immersion ~ We liked variety and MMO aspects, it is what made DUST unique - What you NEED is a proper "New Player Experience" and to do a better job of making new players feel like they understand what is happening and why. - I agree that you should get rid of the "teirs" so you don't have "Proto Stomping" and so that new players can compete with Veterans much faster, however, please leave the diversity in weapons and the in depth leveling up of said weapons and perks and skills. WE DO NOT WANT A CALL OF DOOTY IN THE EVE UNIVERSE Thank you and good day. Agreed!
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1997	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:14:00 - [17] - Quote Signed Please support fair play!
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 818	Posted - 2016.04.21 15:08:00 - [18] - Quote .....Broken hearts, so fast? Project Nova is nowhere near its development stage yet, so we haven't really seen anything to judge. But,... ugh, even if there was enough to see, we were warned. Rattati warned us. Don't look forward to "Dust on PC" From my own perspective of playing on a game console for roughly 2 decades, and playing Dust for nearly 3 years... Dust 514 needed the "barbarian", "raw", "ultra-focused" combat-mindedness that Console gamers grew up with in their games for years. No matter how "graphically fast" the PC software could get, PC gameplay has always been smooth, laid-back combat (remember the old Star Trek fps games on PC? Like that. Picard and Geordi CALMLY trotting around shooting Ferengi players in hallways). Dust 514 tried to merge TWO different minded players (PC players calculating in spaceships---Console players butchering clone-meat on a surface)...both needing each other to win something. That psychology of players can't be reproduced with everyone playing their respective game on PC. The visceral experience of the butchering-game, really needed a Console. No matter how much PC devs scoff and spit on the concept, I always thought CCP's attempt to do this thing on a Console (PS3, Xbox, ANY console), was the right thing to try. How can you expect something as elaborate as what Dust was developing into, to make grow on PC next to an EVE game that has players vested in assets for 10 years? Any game on PC would have to be "Light", like Valkarie, or Gunjack. Exciting enough to give some New Eden feeling, but gentle enough not to rock the boat and start knocking EVE Online capsuleers off their possessions and districts. Maybe Dust 514 was WAY far ahead of its time, and can't exist without the same hardware separation from Eve Online that many designers kept saying was its weakness. Maybe being on a Console platform, WAS Dust's greatest opportunity for success. I don't know. I'm an office girl, not a game dev. I'm not really expecting the "Nova" to develop into anything too Dust-elaborate and Dust-deep. No, it's not dumbed down. But it probably NEEDS to stay as lightweight as Valkarie. Promote through the ranks, shoot stuff you see in front of you, and swap out some modules on your guns to change their performance. That's pretty much all that Valkarie does, right? Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
GeorgeN76 Eden Claims Corp 2331	Posted - 2016.04.21 15:56:00 - [19] - Quote +1 Scouts and Swarms New Edens Pawn Shop
Ghunn Smoke Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.04.21 16:10:00 - [20] - Quote Logged in to sign .

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 29348	Posted - 2016.04.21 16:15:00 - [21] - Quote I'm hoping we just have limited information and that it's not actually going to be a tiny lobby arena shooter. Everything has to come to an end, sometime.
Ghunn Smoke Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.04.21 16:15:00 - [22] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Who's guilty is protostomping? Cummunity Community will get what they deserve. Say thanks to cancer players, say thanks to players who made new accounts just for killing newbies in academy. In a way the powers that be started this mindset with a ganking all comers philosophy and others ate it up and ran with it . People will only do what is allowed and if it was such a problem for anyone other then those who were abused then something would have been done about it . It killed the growth of the game and the bottom line for the company and that's capital . I didn't like it or approved but if it's allowed then it will happen , it is New Eden .
501st Headstrong 0uter.Heaven 3044	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:37:00 - [23] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Who's guilty is protostomping? Cummunity Community will get what they deserve. Say thanks to cancer players, say thanks to players who made new accounts just for killing newbies in academy. I'll match you with this, you don' allow Proto Suits in Pubmatches because there will always be one person who pulls out the suits and guns and if a squad does it then the other team loses key positions before they respawn with their gear. You wanted me to use Proto In PCs? Great, give me PC matches that actually didn't disappear, or that would not make me lose Isk with my proto suit because they only pay 1 million isk a match. Don't want me to use Proto? Don't give me asinine blueberries so I don't have to carry my team with uplinks, a cloak or nanohives or HP because it's basically 1 v 15. You guys always made me laugh. Maybe if you had a strong NPE, new players would be in squads and talk and not crouch right in front of me trying to go prone like this is COD. Also OP, signed PSN: saphireblue-7 Dusty5678 stole this account. <<<<--------------------------------This is now rectified lol
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4877	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:39:00 - [24] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I'm hoping we just have limited information and that it's not actually going to be a tiny lobby arena shooter. Yes, Rattati confirmed that the ultimate goal is a sandbox. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4877	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:42:00 - [25] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: 4lbert Wesker wrote: Who's guilty is protostomping? Cummunity Community will get what they deserve. Say thanks to cancer players, say thanks to players who made new accounts just for killing newbies in academy. I'll match you with this, you don' allow Proto Suits in Pubmatches because there will always be one person who pulls out the suits and guns and if a squad does it then the other team loses key positions before they respawn with their gear. You wanted me to use Proto In PCs? Great, give me PC matches that actually didn't disappear, or that would not make me lose Isk with my proto suit because they only pay 1 million isk a match. Don't want me to use Proto? Don't give me asinine blueberries so I don't have to carry my team with uplinks, a cloak or nanohives or HP because it's basically 1 v 15. You guys always made me laugh. Maybe if you had a strong NPE, new players would be in squads and talk and not crouch right in front of me trying to go prone like this is COD. Also OP, signed I think it should kind of be like high sec/low sec/ 0.0. CONCORD will not allow you to use proto suits or advanced suits in high sec, they won't allow you to use proto suits only in low sec, and in null sec (Planetary Conquest) there are no rules. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
501st Headstrong 0uter.Heaven 3045	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:47:00 - [26] - Quote I have no issue with that, I just laugh at when people say ProtoStompers Killed the game lol PSN: saphireblue-7 Dusty5678 stole this account. <<<<--------------------------------This is now rectified lol
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4881	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:50:00 - [27] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: I have no issue with that, I just laugh at when people say ProtoStompers Killed the game lol It was never Proto Stompers, I'm find with Proto Stompers, just as long as there is a counter. What kills a game is when there is no counter to something, when there is no balance. Balance in a game is everything. It was never the fault of the proto stompers, there were just using a mechanic allowed by the game. What was the problem was it wasn't balanced. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
501st Headstrong 0uter.Heaven 3048	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:54:00 - [28] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: 501st Headstrong wrote: I have no issue with that, I just laugh at when people say ProtoStompers Killed the game lol It was never Proto Stompers, I'm find with Proto Stompers, just as long as there is a counter. What kills a game is when there is no counter to something, when there is no balance. Balance in a game is everything. It was never the fault of the proto stompers, there were just using a mechanic allowed by the game. What was the problem was it wasn't balanced. Facts. I would have been hellu happy if your WInStreak in pubs mattered, and you could gradually work up to higher rewards because as your effectiveness wins, then you are hired more by competing companies This earns you a bounty, which other Mercanary teams can accept, and whichever match your squad appears in can be accepted by a hostile squadron, If they kill you or join a match late when their teams MCC is down, bonus isk and SP killing you. This idea was adapted from something I heard a year or two ago, and it isn't perfect, but that is something that could have curtailed ProtoStomping, because nothing woke Blitz and 0H up in the morning like getting a squad together and hunting for Nyain San in Ambush and beating them at their favorite gamemode PSN: saphireblue-7 Dusty5678 stole this account. <<<<--------------------------------This is now rectified lol
Mr.Pepe Le Pew Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 364	Posted - 2016.04.21 18:00:00 - [29] - Quote from the dookie demo we've seen, I come to the following thoughts: -CCP is really not focused on making this game a top notch FPS. -Rattati and staff are on thin ice and are working hard for the bosses to even give Project NOva (PN) a shot. -CCP has failed, once again, to capitalize on a great idea of a game. -It is a mediocre looking game with ideas such as: "getting away from planet battles, and see more of the EVE universe." In other words, we tried to reinvent the wheel and came up with triangular wheels that don't fuking work. -They need to show off the game and all they've been working on for the past 4 years soon or it will explode in their faces just like it did in 2014.
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4881	Posted - 2016.04.21 18:09:00 - [30] - Quote Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote: from the dookie demo we've seen, I come to the following thoughts: Let me show you why none of your points are relevant. At all. "-CCP is really not focused on making this game a top notch FPS." Rattati wrote: GÇ£This has to be a great shooter, before anything else,GÇ¥ "-Rattati and staff are on thin ice and are working hard for the bosses to even give Project NOva (PN) a shot." Is this is even true, this means that they will be motivated to make Project Nova a success, considering their jobs are on the line. They will work hard to make it an fps that stands out. "-CCP has failed, once again, to capitalize on a great idea of a game" Quote: There are much grander plans for Project Nova thoughGÇöplans that donGÇÖt at all come through from this little arena shooter demo. The long-term vision for Nova is to get back to the Dust 514 dream, blending Nova together with EVE Online. "-It is a mediocre looking game with ideas such as: "getting away from planet battles, and see more of the EVE universe." In other words, we tried to reinvent the wheel and came up with triangular wheels that don't fuking work." Quote: Not in real-time, per se. +ürnason says that only GÇ£one percent of one percentGÇ¥ of EVE Online players ever used the real-time feedback aspects of Dust. But the idea of the Planetary Conquest mode, wherein corporations battled for control of planets, is something +ürnason wants to resurrect in NovaGÇöand more. GÇ£What IGÇÖd like to do is some sort of economic link,GÇ¥ says +ürnason. In this hypothetical situation, he sees a corporation in EVE Online and in Nova linking up, potentially by way of a structure created in EVE, and then hooking together so each side gets money or other resources. GÇ£That future is all an open map,GÇ¥ says +ürnason. GÇ£We can do whatever we want, after we demonstrate the correct shooting mechanics.GÇ¥ And lol at your analogy that doesn't even make any since. "-They need to show off the game and all they've been working on for the past 4 years soon or it will explode in their faces just like it did in 2014." I searched up "Project Nova announced by CCP" and already found 5 large articles on it. I think it is fair to say it is receiving attention. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw

LOL KILLZ LulKlz 724	Posted - 2016.04.21 20:35:00 - [31] - Quote Totally agree with OP. Signed Dustkillz and chill
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 847	Posted - 2016.04.21 21:11:00 - [32] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I'm hoping we just have limited information and that it's not actually going to be a tiny lobby arena shooter. Yes, Rattati confirmed that the ultimate goal is a sandbox. When did he say that, in the interview after the keynote, or earlier? In any case, how long until they have a proper sandbox, and will they have MMO? I seriously doubt I will be playing it by the time all these things come to pass. If they're dropping MMO, customisation, races, etc, even if only initially, I'm not interested. They really should have kept Dust going, porting it to PS4 if necessary, to keep their dedicated players. Not doing so and offering us just vapourware to keep us dangling is not good enough.
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 849	Posted - 2016.04.21 21:34:00 - [33] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Quote: There are much grander plans for Project Nova thoughGÇöplans that donGÇÖt at all come through from this little arena shooter demo. The long-term vision for Nova is to get back to the Dust 514 dream, blending Nova together with EVE Online. If this alone is true, then there is some hope for it in my mind. My problem with it is that to fulfil this long term vision would require putting back the things they are taking out for this demo. That looks to me like they would need to rebuild from scratch, database included. That will take a long time, and I'll probably not hang around for it. I may revisit some time in the future if I hear that there is a new EvE based FPS that's worth a look, but for the moment I'll probably give it a miss.
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 558	Posted - 2016.04.21 22:26:00 - [34] - Quote Rattati wtf make Dust great again plz signed
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4889	Posted - 2016.04.22 00:14:00 - [35] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I'm hoping we just have limited information and that it's not actually going to be a tiny lobby arena shooter. Yes, Rattati confirmed that the ultimate goal is a sandbox. When did he say that, in the interview after the keynote, or earlier? In any case, how long until they have a proper sandbox, and will they have MMO? I seriously doubt I will be playing it by the time all these things come to pass. If they're dropping MMO, customisation, races, etc, even if only initially, I'm not interested. They really should have kept Dust going, porting it to PS4 if necessary, to keep their dedicated players. Not doing so and offering us just vapourware to keep us dangling is not good enough. Read this article. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1129	Posted - 2016.04.22 02:08:00 - [36] - Quote Makes no sense to strip the MMO aspects. The half-baked MMO aspects of Dust were what kept the absolutely TERRIBLE fps aspects of Dust alive. Does CCP not understand that they have the most compelling MMO universe in the world? Copy and paste FW and Orbital strikes into Nova and you will be printing money. Bring in Planetary Conquest and you'll be building a military base in the Middle East. BAN ADVANCED GEAR FROM PUBS \| Mass Driver Advocate
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7847	Posted - 2016.04.22 02:27:00 - [37] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: Makes no sense to strip the MMO aspects. The half-baked MMO aspects of Dust were what kept the absolutely TERRIBLE fps aspects of Dust alive. Does CCP not understand that they have the most compelling MMO universe in the world? Copy and paste FW and Orbital strikes into Nova and you will be printing money. Bring in Planetary Conquest and you'll be building a military base in the Middle East. See, the thing is that no one ever did any orbital strikes or used the POS bonuses from Planetary Conquest. As Rattati said: "the one percent of the one percent". There have never been any orbital strikes performed in Dust 514, which means they're obviously a useless feature. Hell, when they were tested on Singularity, no one even showed up to watch. Clearly development time is best spent on things that matter, like double-jumping and green sparkly muzzle flash for shotguns. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7042	Posted - 2016.04.22 02:29:00 - [38] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: Makes no sense to strip the MMO aspects. The half-baked MMO aspects of Dust were what kept the absolutely TERRIBLE fps aspects of Dust alive. Does CCP not understand that they have the most compelling MMO universe in the world? Copy and paste FW and Orbital strikes into Nova and you will be printing money. Bring in Planetary Conquest and you'll be building a military base in the Middle East. It was just for the demo but they failed to mention that during their interview..it's also 16v16 with customization and other goodies that wasn't ready to be shown yet @Quira no nudes this time? =ƒÿ¡
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4890	Posted - 2016.04.22 02:33:00 - [39] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: Makes no sense to strip the MMO aspects. The half-baked MMO aspects of Dust were what kept the absolutely TERRIBLE fps aspects of Dust alive. Does CCP not understand that they have the most compelling MMO universe in the world? Copy and paste FW and Orbital strikes into Nova and you will be printing money. Bring in Planetary Conquest and you'll be building a military base in the Middle East. They are not stripping the mmo aspects. They are focusing on the fps aspects while still having the current mmo aspects and adding on to it. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 579	Posted - 2016.04.22 03:09:00 - [40] - Quote +1. Although I seriously doubt we'll get a lobby shooter. The tech demo is just that, a demo of what they've got so far. I'm glad the first thing they've built is the foundation of a shooter. The rest will come, I'm sure. Something is killing new player retention.

Titus Stryker Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 531	Posted - 2016.04.22 03:13:00 - [41] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: +1. Although I seriously doubt we'll get a lobby shooter. The tech demo is just that, a demo of what they've got so far. I'm glad the first thing they've built is the foundation of a shooter. The rest will come, I'm sure. I hope you right. And to be clear, I am not trying to bash here, just stating that I really hope they are not scratching the MMO aspects. I wanted them to notice how much we enjoy the in depth uniqueness of DUST 515 and how we like all the different possibilities we have in our skills and dropsuits. Twitch & YouTube
Mr.Pepe Le Pew Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 365	Posted - 2016.04.22 03:19:00 - [42] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote: from the dookie demo we've seen, I come to the following thoughts: Let me show you why none of your points are relevant. At all. "-CCP is really not focused on making this game a top notch FPS." Rattati wrote: GÇ£This has to be a great shooter, before anything else,GÇ¥ "-Rattati and staff are on thin ice and are working hard for the bosses to even give Project NOva (PN) a shot." Is this is even true, this means that they will be motivated to make Project Nova a success, considering their jobs are on the line. They will work hard to make it an fps that stands out. "-CCP has failed, once again, to capitalize on a great idea of a game" Quote: There are much grander plans for Project Nova thoughGÇöplans that donGÇÖt at all come through from this little arena shooter demo. The long-term vision for Nova is to get back to the Dust 514 dream, blending Nova together with EVE Online. "-It is a mediocre looking game with ideas such as: "getting away from planet battles, and see more of the EVE universe." In other words, we tried to reinvent the wheel and came up with triangular wheels that don't fuking work." Quote: Not in real-time, per se. +ürnason says that only GÇ£one percent of one percentGÇ¥ of EVE Online players ever used the real-time feedback aspects of Dust. But the idea of the Planetary Conquest mode, wherein corporations battled for control of planets, is something +ürnason wants to resurrect in NovaGÇöand more. GÇ£What IGÇÖd like to do is some sort of economic link,GÇ¥ says +ürnason. In this hypothetical situation, he sees a corporation in EVE Online and in Nova linking up, potentially by way of a structure created in EVE, and then hooking together so each side gets money or other resources. GÇ£That future is all an open map,GÇ¥ says +ürnason. GÇ£We can do whatever we want, after we demonstrate the correct shooting mechanics.GÇ¥ And lol at your analogy that doesn't even make any since. "-They need to show off the game and all they've been working on for the past 4 years soon or it will explode in their faces just like it did in 2014." I searched up "Project Nova announced by CCP" and already found 5 large articles on it. I think it is fair to say it is receiving attention. If you watched the interview, Rattati says they're extremely nervous as to how the game will be perceived. His ass is on the line, they're on thin ice, and apparently, the team at Shanghai has been either understaffed or slacking. The demo we saw is straight trash. A stinking Tech demo after years since Project Legion was announced, after Shanghai was occupied with the sequel. To be hopeful is to put a noose around one's own neck. I hate to be a pessimist, but CCP has conditioned me to think this way. Go with the trend they said. Take THE BEST FREAKING ASPECT OF DUST OUT OF P/NOVA aka MMO/ tier and skill tree.
Titus Stryker Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 531	Posted - 2016.04.22 03:21:00 - [43] - Quote Rumors are work on #ProjectNova started in September, no sure how accurate that is. Rumors being rumors and all... Twitch & YouTube
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 4019	Posted - 2016.04.22 03:32:00 - [44] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Really, how did it come to this? Thought they've learned their mistakes and all, where the hell did they get the idea that we wanted a lobby shooter. This is literally DUST 0.5 It's not about us. It's about what they percieve the eve community to want as that's who they're pandering to. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 526	Posted - 2016.04.22 03:36:00 - [45] - Quote Signed. *Rich Hipster With No Skill*
Lord Vahzz 239	Posted - 2016.04.22 03:46:00 - [46] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Signed. There is a fine line between not listening and not caring, I like to think i walk that line every day of my life.
Marston VC SVER True Blood RUST415 1700	Posted - 2016.04.22 04:20:00 - [47] - Quote Titus Stryker wrote: This is an official request to not make Project Nova (whatever the new FPS in EVE will be) a generic lobby shooter. ~ We liked the diversity ~ We liked the immersion ~ We liked variety and MMO aspects, it is what made DUST unique - What you NEED is a proper "New Player Experience" and to do a better job of making new players feel like they understand what is happening and why. - I agree that you should get rid of the "teirs" so you don't have "Proto Stomping" and so that new players can compete with Veterans much faster, however, please leave the diversity in weapons and the in depth leveling up of said weapons and perks and skills. WE DO NOT WANT A CALL OF DOOTY IN THE EVE UNIVERSE Thank you and good day. agreed Marston VC, STB Director
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6358	Posted - 2016.04.22 04:28:00 - [48] - Quote Does anyone remember when I said this is exactly what would happen once CCP figured out they can't accomplish anything new with the game? This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4895	Posted - 2016.04.22 04:35:00 - [49] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Does anyone remember when I said this is exactly what would happen once CCP figured out they can't accomplish anything new with the game? That they would go back to their old ways and just repeat the same mistakes over and over again? Himi remembers. Because Himi has watched it happen again and again for ten years now. Bad game will be bad, and pretty much the same as what you have now but with less interaction with EVE (if any). Also replace frame rate issues with constant crashing and aimbots. Lol, I'll accept your tears once you are proven wrong. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1704	Posted - 2016.04.22 04:52:00 - [50] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Forever ETC wrote: Really, how did it come to this? Thought they've learned their mistakes and all, where the hell did they get the idea that we wanted a lobby shooter. This is literally DUST 0.5 It's not about us. It's about what they percieve the eve community to want as that's who they're pandering to. Edit: I just want to share some of my thoughts on the videos that we've seen already. This is mostly just stream of conciousness rambling. Based on just the small preview and what they've said about it; they have dumbed down the whole game. I know that we don't have 'everything' yet, however. First thing I see the map is enclosed, there are no 'long' draw distances or anything like that, it is short small hallways - in a 'small' building (seriously this is smaller than some of the things we already have) with limited verticality and everything enclosed. In my mind this points to them attempting to address all the things that gave them problems in dust (vehicles, redline sniping, rooftop camping, differences in mobility, long draw/render distances). It's been said that they want to step back from the "MMO" ambitions, and they want to make it a solid "shooter" and focus more on "competitive" bits, while also stepping away from skillpoint systems and the like, I believe they've also mentioned more "arena" like gameplay. I'm attempting to read between the lines here with what's been said and been shown... and this isn't going to be anything that even remotely resembles dust or the "grand" scale that we could have in it - I imagine that vehicles will be gone as a role (because small maps and "shooter" emphasis), so will a lot of objective based game modes like faction warfare, your 'permanent progression record' that is your character will have simpler unlocks and the like. They're going to be limiting the connection between "nova" and eve... Every sense I have screams to me that this will be even more of a CoD style lobby shooter with an eve skin on it. I don't really think they're pandering to EVE players, or they wouldn't have taken or implied to have taken out the mmo stuff that was borrowed from EVE. I remember when I use to train noobs that some got the whole fittings and skill things down quickly because of EVE: Online. They're pandering to a larger audience that probably don't know what EVE is, they're trying to go into a market that has been pretty much been swallowed hole by other countless games, and we can only hope they change that course. As for the map, I think it's fine.... Sorta not really, I have no problem with enclosed maps like that as long as it has an exterior area or is only used for specific game modes. Imagine the attackers have to place chargers in specific spots of the hangar while the defenders set defenses. If the offensive teams manages to set, both teams commence to evacuate the ship/hangar, at this moment the battle is held in the wreckage/exterior with the offensive team holding of till their transport arrives while defense attempts to seek revenge... In the end of it all, if they continue this path I think they'll do fine. They still got a lot to bring in the table to create a lobby shooter and still be unique in some ways. It just won't be "our" game or "the" game it could've been. Here's hoping there's a change in mind. AmarrFTW "The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... " Not For Sale- Sanders 2016

Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1704	Posted - 2016.04.22 04:56:00 - [51] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Does anyone remember when I said this is exactly what would happen once CCP figured out they can't accomplish anything new with the game? That they would go back to their old ways and just repeat the same mistakes over and over again? Himi remembers. Because Himi has watched it happen again and again for ten years now. Bad game will be bad, and pretty much the same as what you have now but with less interaction with EVE (if any). Also replace frame rate issues with constant crashing and aimbots. Does anyone remember that guy who made a post of his prediction for fanfest, and we were all like "nah bruh, do you even know CCP". I'm still mind shocked how most if them were correct. AmarrFTW "The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... " Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6361	Posted - 2016.04.22 06:42:00 - [52] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Does anyone remember when I said this is exactly what would happen once CCP figured out they can't accomplish anything new with the game? That they would go back to their old ways and just repeat the same mistakes over and over again? Himi remembers. Because Himi has watched it happen again and again for ten years now. Bad game will be bad, and pretty much the same as what you have now but with less interaction with EVE (if any). Also replace frame rate issues with constant crashing and aimbots. Lol, I'll accept your tears once you are proven wrong. Naivety is fun. Your only chance was CCP making it B2P. Now you have no chance. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 862	Posted - 2016.04.22 07:18:00 - [53] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I'm hoping we just have limited information and that it's not actually going to be a tiny lobby arena shooter. Yes, Rattati confirmed that the ultimate goal is a sandbox. When did he say that, in the interview after the keynote, or earlier? In any case, how long until they have a proper sandbox, and will they have MMO? I seriously doubt I will be playing it by the time all these things come to pass. If they're dropping MMO, customisation, races, etc, even if only initially, I'm not interested. They really should have kept Dust going, porting it to PS4 if necessary, to keep their dedicated players. Not doing so and offering us just vapourware to keep us dangling is not good enough. Read this article. Yep, OK, so there is a possibility that it might finally integrate to some extent with EvE in the future sometime. I'm not holding my breath, sorry.
JDEZ09 ISRAELITE SCHOOL of UNIVERSAL PRACTICAL KNOWLEDGE 219	Posted - 2016.04.22 10:57:00 - [54] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: yep, to be honest i've jumped onto planetside 2 on the ps4 with a lot of old dust guys and one thing we've always said is that while the in match experience of dust was quite horrible. The out of match experience like merc quarters, skill progression, vehickle and dropsuit fittings ect are what made dust unique and essentially ruined other fps' for us. If the demo is just a 6v6 lobby shooter just to have something to play then fair play, its something easy to get up and running but i hope in future we get something more how dust/legion looked and more interactivity. I wanna be able to board ships and stations/outposts as part of alliance battles to help take systems down in persistent battles a'la planetside2 and EVE with perhpas small squad co-op mode like the fabled Drone Infestation mode. there are thousands of things we got promised and ideas the players had over the years and with freedom of PC we shoul dhopefully see if. Which faction in PS2? and are yall US or EU?
Titus Stryker Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 544	Posted - 2016.04.22 18:47:00 - [55] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: KA24DERT wrote: Makes no sense to strip the MMO aspects. The half-baked MMO aspects of Dust were what kept the absolutely TERRIBLE fps aspects of Dust alive. Does CCP not understand that they have the most compelling MMO universe in the world? Copy and paste FW and Orbital strikes into Nova and you will be printing money. Bring in Planetary Conquest and you'll be building a military base in the Middle East. It was just for the demo but they failed to mention that during their interview..it's also 16v16 with customization and other goodies that wasn't ready to be shown yet @Quira no nudes this time? =ƒÿ¡ I hope you're right Heimdallr Twitch & YouTube


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"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "

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"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "

Not For Sale- Sanders 2016

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"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "

Not For Sale- Sanders 2016