DUST Search - OFFICIAL REQUEST: not a lobby shooter

501st Headstrong wrote:

4lbert Wesker wrote:

Who's guilty is protostomping?

Cummunity

Community will get what they deserve. Say thanks to cancer players, say thanks to players who made new accounts just for killing newbies in academy.

I'll match you with this, you don' allow Proto Suits in Pubmatches because there will always be one person who pulls out the suits and guns and if a squad does it then the other team loses key positions before they respawn with their gear.

You wanted me to use Proto In PCs? Great, give me PC matches that actually didn't disappear, or that would not make me lose Isk with my proto suit because they only pay 1 million isk a match.

Don't want me to use Proto? Don't give me asinine blueberries so I don't have to carry my team with uplinks, a cloak or nanohives or HP because it's basically 1 v 15.

You guys always made me laugh. Maybe if you had a strong NPE, new players would be in squads and talk and not crouch right in front of me trying to go prone like this is COD.

Also OP, signed

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Titus Stryker Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 488	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:43:00 - [1] - Quote This is an official request to not make Project Nova (whatever the new FPS in EVE will be) a generic lobby shooter. ~ We liked the diversity ~ We liked the immersion ~ We liked variety and MMO aspects, it is what made DUST unique - What you NEED is a proper "New Player Experience" and to do a better job of making new players feel like they understand what is happening and why. - I agree that you should get rid of the "teirs" so you don't have "Proto Stomping" and so that new players can compete with Veterans much faster, however, please leave the diversity in weapons and the in depth leveling up of said weapons and perks and skills. WE DO NOT WANT A CALL OF DOOTY IN THE EVE UNIVERSE Thank you and good day. Twitch & YouTube
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6960	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:44:00 - [2] - Quote Signed
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2943	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:46:00 - [3] - Quote This. Dust had the problem of sloppy shooter gameplay, so I agree that polishing that is important... but throwing out everything else? Just making a Shooter in space and that's it? Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4871	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:46:00 - [4] - Quote Definitely agree. That being said I would still like the kind of ship boarding-esque action in the demo they showed. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1294	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:46:00 - [5] - Quote Im pretty damn sure that it's not gonna stay as a lobby shooter, CCP would be stup..... I forgot this is CCP we're talking about. Project Nova Gameplay
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 901	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:47:00 - [6] - Quote Sign x 10
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1696	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:53:00 - [7] - Quote Really, how did it come to this? Thought they've learned their mistakes and all, where the hell did they get the idea that we wanted a lobby shooter. This is literally DUST 0.5 AmarrFTW "The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... " Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
Nirwanda Vaughns 1929	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:53:00 - [8] - Quote yep, to be honest i've jumped onto planetside 2 on the ps4 with a lot of old dust guys and one thing we've always said is that while the in match experience of dust was quite horrible. The out of match experience like merc quarters, skill progression, vehickle and dropsuit fittings ect are what made dust unique and essentially ruined other fps' for us. If the demo is just a 6v6 lobby shooter just to have something to play then fair play, its something easy to get up and running but i hope in future we get something more how dust/legion looked and more interactivity. I wanna be able to board ships and stations/outposts as part of alliance battles to help take systems down in persistent battles a'la planetside2 and EVE with perhpas small squad co-op mode like the fabled Drone Infestation mode. there are thousands of things we got promised and ideas the players had over the years and with freedom of PC we shoul dhopefully see if. Find me in the new world or PSN: LaughlynVaughns
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game 2607	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:53:00 - [9] - Quote Signed. You'll only find me playing Destiny now. PSN: TheMysteriousEnd (PS4/PS3) XBL: Mystend 7 (XB1/360)
4lbert Wesker Intara Direct Action Caldari State 654	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:55:00 - [10] - Quote Who's guilty is protostomping? Cummunity Community will get what they deserve. Say thanks to cancer players, say thanks to players who made new accounts just for killing newbies in academy. WESKER S.T.A.R.S. is not my corporation!

Foehammerr Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 235	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:56:00 - [11] - Quote Concur *De Opresso Liber* Beta Vet since 2/5/2013
Roy Xkillerz Red Star. 56	Posted - 2016.04.21 13:59:00 - [12] - Quote Signed. I do like good gameplay mechanics comes first but the immersion wanted me to grind in dust.
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2664	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:09:00 - [13] - Quote Lmao. Its a demo. Pls. Dont make assumptions already. If you wanna keep going then by all mean.... SALT BUCKET ENGAGED CAPTURING ALL THE NEARBY SALT. Am ded.
Titus Stryker Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 500	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:11:00 - [14] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Lmao. Its a demo. Pls. Dont make assumptions already. If you wanna keep going then by all mean.... SALT BUCKET ENGAGED CAPTURING ALL THE NEARBY SALT. It's not the demo or the footage from Fleetfoot that has me worried, it was the interview with Frame and Ratatti (?) after the presentation... Twitch & YouTube
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2946	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:11:00 - [15] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Lmao. Its a demo. Pls. Dont make assumptions already. If you wanna keep going then by all mean.... SALT BUCKET ENGAGED CAPTURING ALL THE NEARBY SALT. It would be easier to not make these assumptions, hadn't CCP said they were aiming for more in the long term. But what they said was. We are scaling down the MMO stuff and want to focus on shooter gameplay for an arena shooter. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 833	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:13:00 - [16] - Quote Titus Stryker wrote: This is an official request to not make Project Nova (whatever the new FPS in EVE will be) a generic lobby shooter. ~ We liked the diversity ~ We liked the immersion ~ We liked variety and MMO aspects, it is what made DUST unique - What you NEED is a proper "New Player Experience" and to do a better job of making new players feel like they understand what is happening and why. - I agree that you should get rid of the "teirs" so you don't have "Proto Stomping" and so that new players can compete with Veterans much faster, however, please leave the diversity in weapons and the in depth leveling up of said weapons and perks and skills. WE DO NOT WANT A CALL OF DOOTY IN THE EVE UNIVERSE Thank you and good day. Agreed!
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1997	Posted - 2016.04.21 14:14:00 - [17] - Quote Signed Please support fair play!
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 818	Posted - 2016.04.21 15:08:00 - [18] - Quote .....Broken hearts, so fast? Project Nova is nowhere near its development stage yet, so we haven't really seen anything to judge. But,... ugh, even if there was enough to see, we were warned. Rattati warned us. Don't look forward to "Dust on PC" From my own perspective of playing on a game console for roughly 2 decades, and playing Dust for nearly 3 years... Dust 514 needed the "barbarian", "raw", "ultra-focused" combat-mindedness that Console gamers grew up with in their games for years. No matter how "graphically fast" the PC software could get, PC gameplay has always been smooth, laid-back combat (remember the old Star Trek fps games on PC? Like that. Picard and Geordi CALMLY trotting around shooting Ferengi players in hallways). Dust 514 tried to merge TWO different minded players (PC players calculating in spaceships---Console players butchering clone-meat on a surface)...both needing each other to win something. That psychology of players can't be reproduced with everyone playing their respective game on PC. The visceral experience of the butchering-game, really needed a Console. No matter how much PC devs scoff and spit on the concept, I always thought CCP's attempt to do this thing on a Console (PS3, Xbox, ANY console), was the right thing to try. How can you expect something as elaborate as what Dust was developing into, to make grow on PC next to an EVE game that has players vested in assets for 10 years? Any game on PC would have to be "Light", like Valkarie, or Gunjack. Exciting enough to give some New Eden feeling, but gentle enough not to rock the boat and start knocking EVE Online capsuleers off their possessions and districts. Maybe Dust 514 was WAY far ahead of its time, and can't exist without the same hardware separation from Eve Online that many designers kept saying was its weakness. Maybe being on a Console platform, WAS Dust's greatest opportunity for success. I don't know. I'm an office girl, not a game dev. I'm not really expecting the "Nova" to develop into anything too Dust-elaborate and Dust-deep. No, it's not dumbed down. But it probably NEEDS to stay as lightweight as Valkarie. Promote through the ranks, shoot stuff you see in front of you, and swap out some modules on your guns to change their performance. That's pretty much all that Valkarie does, right? Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
GeorgeN76 Eden Claims Corp 2331	Posted - 2016.04.21 15:56:00 - [19] - Quote +1 Scouts and Swarms New Edens Pawn Shop
Ghunn Smoke Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.04.21 16:10:00 - [20] - Quote Logged in to sign .

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 29348	Posted - 2016.04.21 16:15:00 - [21] - Quote I'm hoping we just have limited information and that it's not actually going to be a tiny lobby arena shooter. Everything has to come to an end, sometime.
Ghunn Smoke Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.04.21 16:15:00 - [22] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Who's guilty is protostomping? Cummunity Community will get what they deserve. Say thanks to cancer players, say thanks to players who made new accounts just for killing newbies in academy. In a way the powers that be started this mindset with a ganking all comers philosophy and others ate it up and ran with it . People will only do what is allowed and if it was such a problem for anyone other then those who were abused then something would have been done about it . It killed the growth of the game and the bottom line for the company and that's capital . I didn't like it or approved but if it's allowed then it will happen , it is New Eden .
501st Headstrong 0uter.Heaven 3044	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:37:00 - [23] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Who's guilty is protostomping? Cummunity Community will get what they deserve. Say thanks to cancer players, say thanks to players who made new accounts just for killing newbies in academy. I'll match you with this, you don' allow Proto Suits in Pubmatches because there will always be one person who pulls out the suits and guns and if a squad does it then the other team loses key positions before they respawn with their gear. You wanted me to use Proto In PCs? Great, give me PC matches that actually didn't disappear, or that would not make me lose Isk with my proto suit because they only pay 1 million isk a match. Don't want me to use Proto? Don't give me asinine blueberries so I don't have to carry my team with uplinks, a cloak or nanohives or HP because it's basically 1 v 15. You guys always made me laugh. Maybe if you had a strong NPE, new players would be in squads and talk and not crouch right in front of me trying to go prone like this is COD. Also OP, signed PSN: saphireblue-7 Dusty5678 stole this account. <<<<--------------------------------This is now rectified lol
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4877	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:39:00 - [24] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I'm hoping we just have limited information and that it's not actually going to be a tiny lobby arena shooter. Yes, Rattati confirmed that the ultimate goal is a sandbox. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4877	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:42:00 - [25] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: 4lbert Wesker wrote: Who's guilty is protostomping? Cummunity Community will get what they deserve. Say thanks to cancer players, say thanks to players who made new accounts just for killing newbies in academy. I'll match you with this, you don' allow Proto Suits in Pubmatches because there will always be one person who pulls out the suits and guns and if a squad does it then the other team loses key positions before they respawn with their gear. You wanted me to use Proto In PCs? Great, give me PC matches that actually didn't disappear, or that would not make me lose Isk with my proto suit because they only pay 1 million isk a match. Don't want me to use Proto? Don't give me asinine blueberries so I don't have to carry my team with uplinks, a cloak or nanohives or HP because it's basically 1 v 15. You guys always made me laugh. Maybe if you had a strong NPE, new players would be in squads and talk and not crouch right in front of me trying to go prone like this is COD. Also OP, signed I think it should kind of be like high sec/low sec/ 0.0. CONCORD will not allow you to use proto suits or advanced suits in high sec, they won't allow you to use proto suits only in low sec, and in null sec (Planetary Conquest) there are no rules. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
501st Headstrong 0uter.Heaven 3045	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:47:00 - [26] - Quote I have no issue with that, I just laugh at when people say ProtoStompers Killed the game lol PSN: saphireblue-7 Dusty5678 stole this account. <<<<--------------------------------This is now rectified lol
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4881	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:50:00 - [27] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: I have no issue with that, I just laugh at when people say ProtoStompers Killed the game lol It was never Proto Stompers, I'm find with Proto Stompers, just as long as there is a counter. What kills a game is when there is no counter to something, when there is no balance. Balance in a game is everything. It was never the fault of the proto stompers, there were just using a mechanic allowed by the game. What was the problem was it wasn't balanced. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw
501st Headstrong 0uter.Heaven 3048	Posted - 2016.04.21 17:54:00 - [28] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: 501st Headstrong wrote: I have no issue with that, I just laugh at when people say ProtoStompers Killed the game lol It was never Proto Stompers, I'm find with Proto Stompers, just as long as there is a counter. What kills a game is when there is no counter to something, when there is no balance. Balance in a game is everything. It was never the fault of the proto stompers, there were just using a mechanic allowed by the game. What was the problem was it wasn't balanced. Facts. I would have been hellu happy if your WInStreak in pubs mattered, and you could gradually work up to higher rewards because as your effectiveness wins, then you are hired more by competing companies This earns you a bounty, which other Mercanary teams can accept, and whichever match your squad appears in can be accepted by a hostile squadron, If they kill you or join a match late when their teams MCC is down, bonus isk and SP killing you. This idea was adapted from something I heard a year or two ago, and it isn't perfect, but that is something that could have curtailed ProtoStomping, because nothing woke Blitz and 0H up in the morning like getting a squad together and hunting for Nyain San in Ambush and beating them at their favorite gamemode PSN: saphireblue-7 Dusty5678 stole this account. <<<<--------------------------------This is now rectified lol
Mr.Pepe Le Pew Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 364	Posted - 2016.04.21 18:00:00 - [29] - Quote from the dookie demo we've seen, I come to the following thoughts: -CCP is really not focused on making this game a top notch FPS. -Rattati and staff are on thin ice and are working hard for the bosses to even give Project NOva (PN) a shot. -CCP has failed, once again, to capitalize on a great idea of a game. -It is a mediocre looking game with ideas such as: "getting away from planet battles, and see more of the EVE universe." In other words, we tried to reinvent the wheel and came up with triangular wheels that don't fuking work. -They need to show off the game and all they've been working on for the past 4 years soon or it will explode in their faces just like it did in 2014.
XxBlazikenxX WarRavens Imperium Eden 4881	Posted - 2016.04.21 18:09:00 - [30] - Quote Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote: from the dookie demo we've seen, I come to the following thoughts: Let me show you why none of your points are relevant. At all. "-CCP is really not focused on making this game a top notch FPS." Rattati wrote: GÇ£This has to be a great shooter, before anything else,GÇ¥ "-Rattati and staff are on thin ice and are working hard for the bosses to even give Project NOva (PN) a shot." Is this is even true, this means that they will be motivated to make Project Nova a success, considering their jobs are on the line. They will work hard to make it an fps that stands out. "-CCP has failed, once again, to capitalize on a great idea of a game" Quote: There are much grander plans for Project Nova thoughGÇöplans that donGÇÖt at all come through from this little arena shooter demo. The long-term vision for Nova is to get back to the Dust 514 dream, blending Nova together with EVE Online. "-It is a mediocre looking game with ideas such as: "getting away from planet battles, and see more of the EVE universe." In other words, we tried to reinvent the wheel and came up with triangular wheels that don't fuking work." Quote: Not in real-time, per se. +ürnason says that only GÇ£one percent of one percentGÇ¥ of EVE Online players ever used the real-time feedback aspects of Dust. But the idea of the Planetary Conquest mode, wherein corporations battled for control of planets, is something +ürnason wants to resurrect in NovaGÇöand more. GÇ£What IGÇÖd like to do is some sort of economic link,GÇ¥ says +ürnason. In this hypothetical situation, he sees a corporation in EVE Online and in Nova linking up, potentially by way of a structure created in EVE, and then hooking together so each side gets money or other resources. GÇ£That future is all an open map,GÇ¥ says +ürnason. GÇ£We can do whatever we want, after we demonstrate the correct shooting mechanics.GÇ¥ And lol at your analogy that doesn't even make any since. "-They need to show off the game and all they've been working on for the past 4 years soon or it will explode in their faces just like it did in 2014." I searched up "Project Nova announced by CCP" and already found 5 large articles on it. I think it is fair to say it is receiving attention. Rule #1 of Dust 514: If you get hatemail, you are doing something right. #Imperiumftw



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