Yes, Rattati confirmed that the ultimate goal is a sandbox.

When did he say that, in the interview after the keynote, or earlier? In any case, how long until they have a proper sandbox, and will they have MMO?

I seriously doubt I will be playing it by the time all these things come to pass. If they're dropping MMO, customisation, races, etc, even if only initially, I'm not interested. They really should have kept Dust going, porting it to PS4 if necessary, to keep their dedicated players. Not doing so and offering us just vapourware to keep us dangling is not good enough.

Makes no sense to strip the MMO aspects.

The half-baked MMO aspects of Dust were what kept the absolutely TERRIBLE fps aspects of Dust alive.

Does CCP not understand that they have the most compelling MMO universe in the world?

Copy and paste FW and Orbital strikes into Nova and you will be printing money.

Bring in Planetary Conquest and you'll be building a military base in the Middle East.

Makes no sense to strip the MMO aspects.

The half-baked MMO aspects of Dust were what kept the absolutely TERRIBLE fps aspects of Dust alive.

Does CCP not understand that they have the most compelling MMO universe in the world?

Copy and paste FW and Orbital strikes into Nova and you will be printing money.

Bring in Planetary Conquest and you'll be building a military base in the Middle East.

Makes no sense to strip the MMO aspects.

The half-baked MMO aspects of Dust were what kept the absolutely TERRIBLE fps aspects of Dust alive.

Does CCP not understand that they have the most compelling MMO universe in the world?

Copy and paste FW and Orbital strikes into Nova and you will be printing money.

Bring in Planetary Conquest and you'll be building a military base in the Middle East.

+1.

Although I seriously doubt we'll get a lobby shooter. The tech demo is just that, a demo of what they've got so far. I'm glad the first thing they've built is the foundation of a shooter. The rest will come, I'm sure.

Let me show you why none of your points are relevant. At all.

"-CCP is really not focused on making this game a top notch FPS."


"-Rattati and staff are on thin ice and are working hard for the bosses to even give Project NOva (PN) a shot."

Is this is even true, this means that they will be motivated to make Project Nova a success, considering their jobs are on the line. They will work hard to make it an fps that stands out.

"-CCP has failed, once again, to capitalize on a great idea of a game"



"-It is a mediocre looking game with ideas such as: "getting away from planet battles, and see more of the EVE universe." In other words, we tried to reinvent the wheel and came up with triangular wheels that don't fuking work."



And lol at your analogy that doesn't even make any since.

"-They need to show off the game and all they've been working on for the past 4 years soon or it will explode in their faces just like it did in 2014."

I searched up "Project Nova announced by CCP" and already found 5 large articles on it. I think it is fair to say it is receiving attention.

Really, how did it come to this? Thought they've learned their mistakes and all, where the hell did they get the idea that we wanted a lobby shooter. This is literally DUST 0.5

Signed.

This is an official request to not make Project Nova (whatever the new FPS in EVE will be) a generic lobby shooter.

~ We liked the diversity

~ We liked the immersion

~ We liked variety and MMO aspects, it is what made DUST unique


- What you NEED is a proper "New Player Experience" and to do a better job of making new players feel like they understand what is happening and why.

- I agree that you should get rid of the "teirs" so you don't have "Proto Stomping" and so that new players can compete with Veterans much faster, however, please leave the diversity in weapons and the in depth leveling up of said weapons and perks and skills.


WE DO NOT WANT A CALL OF DOOTY IN THE EVE UNIVERSE

Thank you and good day.

Does anyone remember when I said this is exactly what would happen once CCP figured out they can't accomplish anything new with the game? That they would go back to their old ways and just repeat the same mistakes over and over again?

Himi remembers. Because Himi has watched it happen again and again for ten years now.

Bad game will be bad, and pretty much the same as what you have now but with less interaction with EVE (if any).

Also replace frame rate issues with constant crashing and aimbots.

It's not about us. It's about what they percieve the eve community to want as that's who they're pandering to.

Edit: I just want to share some of my thoughts on the videos that we've seen already. This is mostly just stream of conciousness rambling.

Based on just the small preview and what they've said about it; they have dumbed down the whole game. I know that we don't have 'everything' yet, however. First thing I see the map is enclosed, there are no 'long' draw distances or anything like that, it is short small hallways - in a 'small' building (seriously this is smaller than some of the things we already have) with limited verticality and everything enclosed. In my mind this points to them attempting to address all the things that gave them problems in dust (vehicles, redline sniping, rooftop camping, differences in mobility, long draw/render distances).

It's been said that they want to step back from the "MMO" ambitions, and they want to make it a solid "shooter" and focus more on "competitive" bits, while also stepping away from skillpoint systems and the like, I believe they've also mentioned more "arena" like gameplay. I'm attempting to read between the lines here with what's been said and been shown... and this isn't going to be anything that even remotely resembles dust or the "grand" scale that we could have in it - I imagine that vehicles will be gone as a role (because small maps and "shooter" emphasis), so will a lot of objective based game modes like faction warfare, your 'permanent progression record' that is your character will have simpler unlocks and the like. They're going to be limiting the connection between "nova" and eve... Every sense I have screams to me that this will be even more of a CoD style lobby shooter with an eve skin on it.

Does anyone remember when I said this is exactly what would happen once CCP figured out they can't accomplish anything new with the game? That they would go back to their old ways and just repeat the same mistakes over and over again?

Himi remembers. Because Himi has watched it happen again and again for ten years now.

Bad game will be bad, and pretty much the same as what you have now but with less interaction with EVE (if any).

Also replace frame rate issues with constant crashing and aimbots.

Lol, I'll accept your tears once you are proven wrong.

Read this article.

yep, to be honest i've jumped onto planetside 2 on the ps4 with a lot of old dust guys and one thing we've always said is that while the in match experience of dust was quite horrible. The out of match experience like merc quarters, skill progression, vehickle and dropsuit fittings ect are what made dust unique and essentially ruined other fps' for us.

If the demo is just a 6v6 lobby shooter just to have something to play then fair play, its something easy to get up and running but i hope in future we get something more how dust/legion looked and more interactivity.
I wanna be able to board ships and stations/outposts as part of alliance battles to help take systems down in persistent battles a'la planetside2 and EVE with perhpas small squad co-op mode like the fabled Drone Infestation mode.
there are thousands of things we got promised and ideas the players had over the years and with freedom of PC we shoul dhopefully see if.

It was just for the demo but they failed to mention that during their interview..it's also 16v16 with customization and other goodies that wasn't ready to be shown yet
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