I'm hoping we just have limited information and that it's not actually going to be a tiny lobby arena shooter.

I'll match you with this, you don' allow Proto Suits in Pubmatches because there will always be one person who pulls out the suits and guns and if a squad does it then the other team loses key positions before they respawn with their gear.

You wanted me to use Proto In PCs? Great, give me PC matches that actually didn't disappear, or that would not make me lose Isk with my proto suit because they only pay 1 million isk a match.

Don't want me to use Proto? Don't give me asinine blueberries so I don't have to carry my team with uplinks, a cloak or nanohives or HP because it's basically 1 v 15.

You guys always made me laugh. Maybe if you had a strong NPE, new players would be in squads and talk and not crouch right in front of me trying to go prone like this is COD.

Also OP, signed

I have no issue with that, I just laugh at when people say ProtoStompers Killed the game lol

from the dookie demo we've seen, I come to the following thoughts:

GÇ£This has to be a great shooter, before anything else,GÇ¥

There are much grander plans for Project Nova thoughGÇöplans that donGÇÖt at all come through from this little arena shooter demo. The long-term vision for Nova is to get back to the Dust 514 dream, blending Nova together with EVE Online.

Not in real-time, per se. +ürnason says that only GÇ£one percent of one percentGÇ¥ of EVE Online players ever used the real-time feedback aspects of Dust. But the idea of the Planetary Conquest mode, wherein corporations battled for control of planets, is something +ürnason wants to resurrect in NovaGÇöand more.

GÇ£What IGÇÖd like to do is some sort of economic link,GÇ¥ says +ürnason. In this hypothetical situation, he sees a corporation in EVE Online and in Nova linking up, potentially by way of a structure created in EVE, and then hooking together so each side gets money or other resources. GÇ£That future is all an open map,GÇ¥ says +ürnason. GÇ£We can do whatever we want, after we demonstrate the correct shooting mechanics.GÇ¥

When did he say that, in the interview after the keynote, or earlier? In any case, how long until they have a proper sandbox, and will they have MMO?

I seriously doubt I will be playing it by the time all these things come to pass. If they're dropping MMO, customisation, races, etc, even if only initially, I'm not interested. They really should have kept Dust going, porting it to PS4 if necessary, to keep their dedicated players. Not doing so and offering us just vapourware to keep us dangling is not good enough.

Makes no sense to strip the MMO aspects.

The half-baked MMO aspects of Dust were what kept the absolutely TERRIBLE fps aspects of Dust alive.

Does CCP not understand that they have the most compelling MMO universe in the world?

Copy and paste FW and Orbital strikes into Nova and you will be printing money.

Bring in Planetary Conquest and you'll be building a military base in the Middle East.

Does anyone remember when I said this is exactly what would happen once CCP figured out they can't accomplish anything new with the game? That they would go back to their old ways and just repeat the same mistakes over and over again?

Himi remembers. Because Himi has watched it happen again and again for ten years now.

Bad game will be bad, and pretty much the same as what you have now but with less interaction with EVE (if any).

Also replace frame rate issues with constant crashing and aimbots.