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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:10:00 -
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By now we've all heard the news: the PS3 version of DUST will be kill in May, and it wonGÇÖt be moving to the PS4, but rather the PC.
The temptation to take the easy way out by purchasing a prebuilt is great but please DONGÇÖT BUY A PREBUILT FROM BEST BUY OR SIMILAR BIG BOX STORE You will overpay, you will get an inferior product, and you wonGÇÖt receive decent service to compensate for it.
Instead, I recommend building a PC yourself. As scary as it sounds, there are countless guides on the internet to help you with every part of the build. Here is a video I highly recommend you watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Q8ksRI1Eo
To be frank, thatGÇÖs the easy part of building a PC. The harder part is figuring out exactly what parts you need/want to purchase. For an experienced PC builder this only takes minutes, but for a first timer (as everyone was once), it can take hours or days of research. This thread is here to cut out the hard part, and just give you good PC builds that an experienced builder personally recommends.
If you have any issues or questions with your build, you are always welcome in this chat: https://discord.gg/0o2qgQkvz7aQUeis I am available most of the day time (GMT +2 time zone), and if not, there are plenty of people who can help you there. I would recommend you verify it with me before you make any purchases because I am a cat and thus superior in most every way u wot m88. I havenGÇÖt seen anything of the sort so far, but you never know.
Sadly, due to regional price and supply differences, this guideGÇÖs prices only apply to the United States. Other places in the world are often more expensive when it comes to PC parts, and the selection is sometimes limited.
First, a quick primer on terminology... Dictionary: CPU Picture: Central Processing Unit - The brain of your computer, handles all day to day tasks your computer does.
GPU Picture: Graphics Processing Unit - Handles tasks the CPU is relatively bad at handling. This is the most important part for gamers, as the GPU has the most direct impact on the experience.
RAM Picture: Random Access Memory - Temporary storage for applications that need quick access to data, where a hard drive or SSD are too slow for the task. Having too much of it will give you no benefit, as unused RAM is wasted RAM, but having too little can cause stuttering and other nasty things in games.
Motherboard Picture: - Acts as a sort of connector for all of your parts. All of your main components plug into it, and itGÇÖs what decides how many and of what type of connectors (USB, Ethernet, etc.) you have.
HDD Picture: Hard Disk Drive - Holds all of your files and data that the computer doesnGÇÖt need to access very fast. ItGÇÖs order of magnitudes slower than RAM, but itGÇÖs also much cheaper per GB, and the data on it doesnGÇÖt disappear when you power down your computer.
SSD Picture: Solid State Drive - A faster, quieter, more power efficient version of the HDD. Still slower than RAM, but much faster than HDDGÇÖs. It is more expensive than an HDD, but itGÇÖs common to have a 120GB-250GB SSD for your OS (Windows), and then a larger HDD for the rest. This makes your system feel much more responsive and boot up much faster than with a simple HDD.
PSU Picture: Power Supply - Exactly as it sounds. Supplies your computer with power. DONGÇÖT SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY. It might be tempting to get a cheap one, but theyGÇÖre potentially a FIRE HAZARD, and can seriously damage your ENTIRE PC. A good power supply protects the rest of your computer in case of a power surge or other failure, a bad power supply burns your house down.
Case Picture: - The box that holds your computer together. They arenGÇÖt particularly advanced, but there are still features you want to look out for. Ease of use, room for cable management, hard drive bays, graphics card clearance, etc.
OC Picture: Overclocking - Pushing your hardware beyond its off the shelf specifications. CPUGÇÖs, GPUGÇÖs and RAM tend to be capable of more than what they come out of the box. You can increase their performance often up to 15% (and sometimes more), but they will generate more heat and take more power, so these things need to be taken into account. Overclocking is beyond the scope of this guide, but there are plenty of guides on the internet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUEMS-B1Siw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcta3RStYSM As good examples.
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:10:00 -
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Build #1: Standard GÇÿScoutGÇÖ Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r4pqcf Price: 344$ Description: The absolute bare bones gaming machine that will still give you a decent experience. DonGÇÖt expect miracles, but you should be able to run modern games on modest settings. The CPU is overclockable, however there isnGÇÖt a custom cooler, and as such I wouldnGÇÖt recommend trying it.
Build #2: Advanced GÇÿScoutGÇÖ Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HWzQt6 Price: 425$ Description: Still fairly barebones, however it comes with a custom CPU cooler, and a very good one at that. So if you look up overclocking guides, you can push your CPU quite a bit beyond its stock limits. Otherwise the same PC, with just a higher quality motherboard and cooling.
Build #3: Prototype GÇÿScoutGÇÖ Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gsm4yc Price: 515$ Description: This buildGÇÖs advantageGÇÖs are a faster CPU, the same cooler as the Advanced GÇÿScoutGÇÖ, an SSD, and a better case, making the building experience slightly more pleasant. The CPU is a good overclocker, and is a 6 core (Although itGÇÖs an AMD 6 core, so each core by itself is weaker than the previous builds). Overall, itGÇÖs just a more rounded experience, the GPU is still the same so gaming performance in most cases wonGÇÖt be drastically better, but it will still be better.
Build #4: Standard GÇÿAssaultGÇÖ [RECOMMENDED BANG FOR BUCK.] Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Xc4KYJ Price: 585$ Description: This is a massive upgrade over the previous build. The R9 380 has far higher performance than the GTX 750 Ti, but otherwise it is the same build as the previous one. This build will give you a VERY good experience, and I will name this the best bang/buck build here. Expect to run games at medium-high settings @ 60FPS and 1080p for the most part. Exceptions being the super demanding games like Crysis 3, Witcher 3, etc.
Alternative parts: GTX 960 (Honestly would not recommend. R9 380 is just superior.)
Build #5: Advanced GÇÿAssaultGÇÖ [RECOMMENDED BANG FOR BUCK] Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qMwdsY Price: 772$ Description: We are getting into GÇ£console crusherGÇ¥ territory. The CPU is not overclockable, but itGÇÖs still very powerful. The SSD is of higher caliber, not only having higher capacity, but higher speed and longevity as well. The real star of this show however is the R9 390, a MASSIVE upgrade over both the GTX 750 Ti and the R9 380. It is the video card I own, and quite frankly for 1080p I donGÇÖt need anything more. It plows through 99.99% of games on the highest settings at 60 or more frames per second. WARNING: I would not recommend overclocking the R9 390 with this power supply. It is a hungry beast, and the power supply is already at its limits.
Alternative parts: GTX 970 (A good card, though R9 390 edges it out IMO)
Build #6: Prototype GÇÿAssaultGÇÖ Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Nwk4yc Price: 869$ Description: Now weGÇÖre putting on the big boy pants. We have an overclockable mid-high end Intel CPU. It will plow through pretty much anything you throw at it gaming wise. The SSD is a downgrade to fit into this price category, however the motherboard is better, supporting excellent overclocking. The power supply is also a good improvement, supporting overclocks for both the CPU and GPU. The case is also a large improvement, giving you high end features with very little cutbacks anywhere.
Alternative parts: GTX 970 (A good card, though R9 390 edges it out IMO)
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:11:00 -
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Build #7: FrameGÇÖs Modified PCGÇÖ Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VnywNG Price: 1044$ Description: A fairly modest upgrade. It gives you your high end SSD back, which was cut from the previous build. The main upgrade however is the R9 390x. ItGÇÖs not leaps and bounds above the R9 390, but itGÇÖs still a fair upgrade.
Build #8: ArchdukeGÇÖs Modified PC Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RTZN3C Price: 1157$ Description: All around the same system as the previous one, except for one key difference: The GPU. The R9 Fury is a very sizeable upgrade, and itGÇÖs the first one that I would recommend for 4k gaming of any kind (though not with all games, and not at the highest settings).
Alternative parts: GTX 980 (A very good card, but I have my worries about the memory bandwidth in conjunction with the 4GB of GDDR5. 4GB of HBM is just more future proof.)
Build #9: RattatiGÇÖs Modified PC Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CNxyJx Price: 1805$ Description: This. This right here is a monster. It sports the best of the best of everything (within reason. No 5960x here). The CPU is a monstrous 6 core Intel, that is also overclockable, AND comes with a liquid cooler to allow you to push it to the limits. The motherboard is also top end, sporting every feature under the sun, and being built with the highest quality materials and components, ensuring longevity and performance. The memory is 16Gb, and of the newer DDR4 standard, with room for far more in the future. The hard drive got upgraded to a Black variant, being the fastest hard drives on the market (With the exception of the ridiculous velociraptor drives). The graphics card is pretty much top end, thereGÇÖs really nothing better than it. Same thing with the case, no feature spared, only highest quality materials. And the power supply is a 1000W Gold power supply, ensuring both efficiency and room for improvement in the future.
Alternative parts: R9 Fury X (Advantage being liquid cooling, so in theory quieter and cooler. However in my opinion the GTX 980 Ti is overall better.)
Disclaimers: All of the prices are subject to change on a daily basis. The prices are as of the time of writing.
From my conversations with CCP Rattati and the CPM, all of the above machines should be able to play the new DUST project well. HOWEVER, the game is still in early stages of development, so NO PROMISES from either me or CCP staff about how the lower end machines will perform. We only know what theyGÇÖre targeting right now. If youGÇÖre worried about that, anything above Build #4 (Standard GÇÿAssaultGÇÖ) should with almost complete certainty run the game very well.
If youGÇÖre reading this 6 months down the line from this postGÇÖs creation, it will most likely be highly outdated and irrelevant. Seek out assistance in the Discord channel here: https://discord.gg/0o2qgQkvz7aQUeis.[*] #FreeRipley2016
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:13:00 -
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Scout untermensch confirmed.
Everything has to come to an end, sometime.
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Maxor haxor
Horizons' Edge The-Office
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:15:00 -
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Reserved.
It is I! Maybe deadcatz!
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:16:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Scout untermensch confirmed. Originally the "Officer" machines were supposed to be Sentinels, but Ripley said:
Ripley Riley wrote: > Implying sentinels are superior to assaults And changed it.
topkek
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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Scalesdini
BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:55:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Scout untermensch confirmed. Originally the "Officer" machines were supposed to be Sentinels, but Ripley said: Ripley Riley wrote: > Implying sentinels are superior to assaults And changed it. topkek
Sentinels are better than assaults.
This thread gets the Scalesdini PC Seal of Approval. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2016.02.08 17:20:00 -
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Scalesdini wrote:This thread gets the Scalesdini PC Seal of Approval. Almost as prestigious as....
Comprehensive PC building guide
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2016.02.08 17:40:00 -
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I haven't gone through the whole list, but wouldn't it be good and wise to replace the 980 /ti with a 970 oc in #8 or #9 ?
As far as I know the 980 / ti have a little edge but costs a lot more than a 970 oc. Just curious if there is a particular reason for that
take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
#PortDust514
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2016.02.08 17:40:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:I haven't gone through the whole list, but wouldn't it be good and wise to replace the 980 /ti with a 970 oc in #8 or #9 ?
As far as I know the 980 / ti have a little edge but costs a lot more than a 970 oc. Just curious if there is a particular reason for that GTX 980 Ti is leaps and bounds above the GTX 970, it's not even a competition.
Comprehensive PC building guide
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2016.02.08 17:51:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:I haven't gone through the whole list, but wouldn't it be good and wise to replace the 980 /ti with a 970 oc in #8 or #9 ?
As far as I know the 980 / ti have a little edge but costs a lot more than a 970 oc. Just curious if there is a particular reason for that GTX 980 Ti is leaps and bounds above the GTX 970, it's not even a competition.
Well, if you keep in mind the overall price, it's not that bad: here's a comparison video I found and the 970 oc is half the price.
take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
#PortDust514
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Scalesdini
BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2016.02.08 17:56:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Cat Merc wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:I haven't gone through the whole list, but wouldn't it be good and wise to replace the 980 /ti with a 970 oc in #8 or #9 ?
As far as I know the 980 / ti have a little edge but costs a lot more than a 970 oc. Just curious if there is a particular reason for that GTX 980 Ti is leaps and bounds above the GTX 970, it's not even a competition. Well, if you keep in mind the overall price, it's not that bad: here's a comparison video I found and the 970 oc is half the price.
It's half the price because it's half the performance. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2016.02.08 18:02:00 -
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Scalesdini wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Cat Merc wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:I haven't gone through the whole list, but wouldn't it be good and wise to replace the 980 /ti with a 970 oc in #8 or #9 ?
As far as I know the 980 / ti have a little edge but costs a lot more than a 970 oc. Just curious if there is a particular reason for that GTX 980 Ti is leaps and bounds above the GTX 970, it's not even a competition. Well, if you keep in mind the overall price, it's not that bad: here's a comparison video I found and the 970 oc is half the price. It's half the price because it's half the performance. And let's not forget that 980 Ti's are excellent overclockers, so whatever you gain with overclocking the GTX 970, you can do the same with the 980 Ti.
Comprehensive PC building guide
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Kevall Longstride
Dust University Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.02.08 19:16:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:I haven't gone through the whole list, but wouldn't it be good and wise to replace the 980 /ti with a 970 oc in #8 or #9 ?
As far as I know the 980 / ti have a little edge but costs a lot more than a 970 oc. Just curious if there is a particular reason for that GTX 980 Ti is leaps and bounds above the GTX 970, it's not even a competition.
Having got a 980ti, can confirm its superiority.
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Scalesdini
BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2016.02.08 19:29:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Cat Merc wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:I haven't gone through the whole list, but wouldn't it be good and wise to replace the 980 /ti with a 970 oc in #8 or #9 ?
As far as I know the 980 / ti have a little edge but costs a lot more than a 970 oc. Just curious if there is a particular reason for that GTX 980 Ti is leaps and bounds above the GTX 970, it's not even a competition. Having got a 980ti, can confirm its superiority.
Having had one since June and been using it with my 55" 4k TV, can confirm it and 4k's superiority. |
Kaze Eyrou
Dust University Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.02.08 19:30:00 -
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Great thread Cat. And excellent Dust fitting equivalents for people to get a better understanding!
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
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Posted - 2016.02.08 21:20:00 -
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While it's true that a proper gaming PC should be built from scratch rather than buying a pre-built, EvE will quite happily run on a good laptop. I have a number of laptops that run EvE with no dramas. The graphics settings can be dialed down for performance, which means EvE can be run on virtually anything decent.
The same will likely be the same with Dust: Phoenix (DoPC). There may be an argument you need better graphics for a FPS, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't run on a good laptop. |
Asad Thahab-Jabal
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2016.02.08 21:28:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:While it's true that a proper gaming PC should be built from scratch rather than buying a pre-built, EvE will quite happily run on a good laptop. I have a number of laptops that run EvE with no dramas. The graphics settings can be dialed down for performance, which means EvE can be run on virtually anything decent.
The same will likely be the same with Dust: Phoenix (DoPC). There may be an argument you need better graphics for a FPS, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't run on a good laptop. Yes, but Eve has had 10+ years of optimization under its belt...
#PortDust514
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2016.02.08 21:34:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:While it's true that a proper gaming PC should be built from scratch rather than buying a pre-built, EvE will quite happily run on a good laptop. I have a number of laptops that run EvE with no dramas. The graphics settings can be dialed down for performance, which means EvE can be run on virtually anything decent.
The same will likely be the same with Dust: Phoenix (DoPC). There may be an argument you need better graphics for a FPS, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't run on a good laptop. That's all well and good, but I actually asked Rattati what systems they're targeting for this thread. They're targeting mid range PC's, so things like the 750 Ti, with options for higher end machines.
EVE is a game released in 2003, and despite the various graphics upgrades it had throughout the years, is absolutely not indicative of what your average game takes performance wise.
Comprehensive PC building guide
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Scalesdini
BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2016.02.08 22:47:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: PSU Picture: Power Supply - Exactly as it sounds. Supplies your computer with power. DONGÇÖT SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY. It might be tempting to get a cheap one, but theyGÇÖre potentially a FIRE HAZARD, and can seriously damage your ENTIRE PC. A good power supply protects the rest of your computer in case of a power surge or other failure, a bad power supply burns your house down.
This is worth repeating all on its own. Please do not buy a cheap power supply. You will risk frying your components, your PC exploding into a ball of fire, or yourself being electrocuted. None of that is a joke or an exaggeration. All of the builds CatMerc has listed use excellent quality PSU's.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
If you're planning your own build or modifying one of CatMerc's and want to try to save on PSU's, that's a list of PSU's and their grade from best to worst. There can be large variation even amongst different models from the same manufacturer, so don't assume that because one brand makes a good PSU that all of their PSU's are good. |
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Draxus Prime
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.02.09 00:23:00 -
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These are some good builds, but the only issue is with the first few you can get a i3 instead of fx 6300, its leaps and bounds better then the 6300 in single core performance which is what matters for gaming. Just saying
"Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner." - Draxus Prime
Closed Beta Vet
Scout
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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2016.02.09 00:31:00 -
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Great build list!
For my Aussie friends looking to build a PC I can recommend two suppliers:
1 - PCCaseGear. Started out as a place to buy the bits and pieces to mod your PC case (~ Early 2000's when that was all the rage) so they have a fair bit of 'PC enthusiast' prestige. Good prices and excellent support.
2 - MSY. Absolute bare bones brick-and-mortar PC component suppliers that offers the lowest prices in the country. The service isn't great so it's usually best to bring a list of the parts you want that you can hand to them when it's your turn to be served.
Something is killing new player retention.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2016.02.09 01:36:00 -
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+1. Cool stuff.
Skype: Nomistrav
"Bastard at Heart"
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Ralden Caster
Random Gunz The-Office
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Posted - 2016.02.09 02:30:00 -
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Proto Assault is $689, not $869
EVE: PENIX
THE HARDEST FPS COMING ON PC
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2016.02.09 02:36:00 -
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How much detotated WAM do I need to play Wegion at the WAN party, I'll dwive my Wamborgini wight over.
*Waves that dye the land gold.
Blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat.
The path the Sef descend drawn in ash.
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BLACK SHEEPX
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.09 02:37:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:By now we've all heard the news: the PS3 version of DUST will be kill in May, and it wonGÇÖt be moving to the PS4, but rather the PC. The temptation to take the easy way out by purchasing a prebuilt is great but please DONGÇÖT BUY A PREBUILT FROM BEST BUY OR SIMILAR BIG BOX STORE You will overpay, you will get an inferior product, and you wonGÇÖt receive decent service to compensate for it. Instead, I recommend building a PC yourself. As scary as it sounds, there are countless guides on the internet to help you with every part of the build. Here is a video I highly recommend you watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Q8ksRI1EoTo be frank, thatGÇÖs the easy part of building a PC. The harder part is figuring out exactly what parts you need/want to purchase. For an experienced PC builder this only takes minutes, but for a first timer (as everyone was once), it can take hours or days of research. This thread is here to cut out the hard part, and just give you good PC builds that an experienced builder personally recommends. If you have any issues or questions with your build, you are always welcome in this chat: https://discord.gg/0o2qgQkvz7aQUeisI am available most of the day time (GMT +2 time zone), and if not, there are plenty of people who can help you there. I would recommend you verify it with me before you make any purchases because I am a cat and thus superior in most every way u wot m88. I havenGÇÖt seen anything of the sort so far, but you never know. Sadly, due to regional price and supply differences, this guideGÇÖs prices only apply to the United States. Other places in the world are often more expensive when it comes to PC parts, and the selection is sometimes limited. First, a quick primer on terminology... Dictionary: CPU Picture: Central Processing Unit - The brain of your computer, handles all day to day tasks your computer does.
GPU Picture: Graphics Processing Unit - Handles tasks the CPU is relatively bad at handling. This is the most important part for gamers, as the GPU has the most direct impact on the experience.
RAM Picture: Random Access Memory - Temporary storage for applications that need quick access to data, where a hard drive or SSD are too slow for the task. Having too much of it will give you no benefit, as unused RAM is wasted RAM, but having too little can cause stuttering and other nasty things in games.
Motherboard Picture: - Acts as a sort of connector for all of your parts. All of your main components plug into it, and itGÇÖs what decides how many and of what type of connectors (USB, Ethernet, etc.) you have.
HDD Picture: Hard Disk Drive - Holds all of your files and data that the computer doesnGÇÖt need to access very fast. ItGÇÖs order of magnitudes slower than RAM, but itGÇÖs also much cheaper per GB, and the data on it doesnGÇÖt disappear when you power down your computer.
SSD Picture: Solid State Drive - A faster, quieter, more power efficient version of the HDD. Still slower than RAM, but much faster than HDDGÇÖs. It is more expensive than an HDD, but itGÇÖs common to have a 120GB-250GB SSD for your OS (Windows), and then a larger HDD for the rest. This makes your system feel much more responsive and boot up much faster than with a simple HDD.
PSU Picture: Power Supply - Exactly as it sounds. Supplies your computer with power. DONGÇÖT SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY. It might be tempting to get a cheap one, but theyGÇÖre potentially a FIRE HAZARD, and can seriously damage your ENTIRE PC. A good power supply protects the rest of your computer in case of a power surge or other failure, a bad power supply burns your house down.
Case Picture: - The box that holds your computer together. They arenGÇÖt particularly advanced, but there are still features you want to look out for. Ease of use, room for cable management, hard drive bays, graphics card clearance, etc.
OC Picture: Overclocking - Pushing your hardware beyond its off the shelf specifications. CPUGÇÖs, GPUGÇÖs and RAM tend to be capable of more than what they come out of the box. You can increase their performance often up to 15% (and sometimes more), but they will generate more heat and take more power, so these things need to be taken into account. Overclocking is beyond the scope of this guide, but there are plenty of guides on the internet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUEMS-B1Siwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcta3RStYSMAs good examples. this post is verry helpfull thank you :) |
BLACK SHEEPX
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.09 02:43:00 -
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BLACK SHEEPX wrote:Cat Merc wrote:By now we've all heard the news: the PS3 version of DUST will be kill in May, and it wonGÇÖt be moving to the PS4, but rather the PC. The temptation to take the easy way out by purchasing a prebuilt is great but please DONGÇÖT BUY A PREBUILT FROM BEST BUY OR SIMILAR BIG BOX STORE You will overpay, you will get an inferior product, and you wonGÇÖt receive decent service to compensate for it. Instead, I recommend building a PC yourself. As scary as it sounds, there are countless guides on the internet to help you with every part of the build. Here is a video I highly recommend you watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Q8ksRI1EoTo be frank, thatGÇÖs the easy part of building a PC. The harder part is figuring out exactly what parts you need/want to purchase. For an experienced PC builder this only takes minutes, but for a first timer (as everyone was once), it can take hours or days of research. This thread is here to cut out the hard part, and just give you good PC builds that an experienced builder personally recommends. If you have any issues or questions with your build, you are always welcome in this chat: https://discord.gg/0o2qgQkvz7aQUeisI am available most of the day time (GMT +2 time zone), and if not, there are plenty of people who can help you there. I would recommend you verify it with me before you make any purchases because I am a cat and thus superior in most every way u wot m88. I havenGÇÖt seen anything of the sort so far, but you never know. Sadly, due to regional price and supply differences, this guideGÇÖs prices only apply to the United States. Other places in the world are often more expensive when it comes to PC parts, and the selection is sometimes limited. First, a quick primer on terminology... Dictionary: CPU Picture: Central Processing Unit - The brain of your computer, handles all day to day tasks your computer does.
GPU Picture: Graphics Processing Unit - Handles tasks the CPU is relatively bad at handling. This is the most important part for gamers, as the GPU has the most direct impact on the experience.
RAM Picture: Random Access Memory - Temporary storage for applications that need quick access to data, where a hard drive or SSD are too slow for the task. Having too much of it will give you no benefit, as unused RAM is wasted RAM, but having too little can cause stuttering and other nasty things in games.
Motherboard Picture: - Acts as a sort of connector for all of your parts. All of your main components plug into it, and itGÇÖs what decides how many and of what type of connectors (USB, Ethernet, etc.) you have.
HDD Picture: Hard Disk Drive - Holds all of your files and data that the computer doesnGÇÖt need to access very fast. ItGÇÖs order of magnitudes slower than RAM, but itGÇÖs also much cheaper per GB, and the data on it doesnGÇÖt disappear when you power down your computer.
SSD Picture: Solid State Drive - A faster, quieter, more power efficient version of the HDD. Still slower than RAM, but much faster than HDDGÇÖs. It is more expensive than an HDD, but itGÇÖs common to have a 120GB-250GB SSD for your OS (Windows), and then a larger HDD for the rest. This makes your system feel much more responsive and boot up much faster than with a simple HDD.
PSU Picture: Power Supply - Exactly as it sounds. Supplies your computer with power. DONGÇÖT SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY. It might be tempting to get a cheap one, but theyGÇÖre potentially a FIRE HAZARD, and can seriously damage your ENTIRE PC. A good power supply protects the rest of your computer in case of a power surge or other failure, a bad power supply burns your house down.
Case Picture: - The box that holds your computer together. They arenGÇÖt particularly advanced, but there are still features you want to look out for. Ease of use, room for cable management, hard drive bays, graphics card clearance, etc.
OC Picture: Overclocking - Pushing your hardware beyond its off the shelf specifications. CPUGÇÖs, GPUGÇÖs and RAM tend to be capable of more than what they come out of the box. You can increase their performance often up to 15% (and sometimes more), but they will generate more heat and take more power, so these things need to be taken into account. Overclocking is beyond the scope of this guide, but there are plenty of guides on the internet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUEMS-B1Siwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcta3RStYSMAs good examples. ... |
SgtDoughnut
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Posted - 2016.02.09 03:28:00 -
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2016.02.09 06:27:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:These are some good builds, but the only issue is with the first few you can get a i3 instead of fx 6300, its leaps and bounds better then the 6300 in single core performance which is what matters for gaming. Just saying It may have been true a couple years ago, but not anymore. Thanks to the PS4/Xbox one, gaming (and computer software in general) is becoming more and more multithreaded, hence multicore CPU's like the FX 6300 stomp the i3.
You also have to consider that this is the real world, not benchmarks. The user will have other things running on his computer, Skype, teamspeak, maybe an IRC client, some music playing, etc'. In these situations, the i3's dual core will be fighting to actually process the game itself, so you'll get horrible frame times. I've seen it with my own eyes.
i3 is good in benchmarks, but they give you terrible overall experience.
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Danja Dom
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Posted - 2016.02.09 07:24:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:These are some good builds, but the only issue is with the first few you can get a i3 instead of fx 6300, its leaps and bounds better then the 6300 in single core performance which is what matters for gaming. Just saying It may have been true a couple years ago, but not anymore. Thanks to the PS4/Xbox one, gaming (and computer software in general) is becoming more and more multithreaded, hence multicore CPU's like the FX 6300 stomp the i3. You also have to consider that this is the real world, not benchmarks. The user will have other things running on his computer. Skype, teamspeak, maybe an IRC client, some music playing, etc'. In these situations, the i3's dual core will be fighting to actually process the game itself, so you'll get horrible frame times. I've seen it with my own eyes. i3 is good in benchmarks, but they give you terrible overall experience.
I3 is still better at gaming, already been proven a hundred times over in recent youtube vids also, fact is Intel is so much richer than AMD they haven't really got a chance, the da,n pentium g3258 still beats fx 6300 in alot of games, the fx is just outdone by i3s when it comes to gaming.
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