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Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.08 16:10:00 - [1] - Quote By now we've all heard the news: the PS3 version of DUST will be kill in May, and it wonGÇÖt be moving to the PS4, but rather the PC. The temptation to take the easy way out by purchasing a prebuilt is great but please DONGÇÖT BUY A PREBUILT FROM BEST BUY OR SIMILAR BIG BOX STORE You will overpay, you will get an inferior product, and you wonGÇÖt receive decent service to compensate for it. Instead, I recommend building a PC yourself. As scary as it sounds, there are countless guides on the internet to help you with every part of the build. Here is a video I highly recommend you watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Q8ksRI1Eo To be frank, thatGÇÖs the easy part of building a PC. The harder part is figuring out exactly what parts you need/want to purchase. For an experienced PC builder this only takes minutes, but for a first timer (as everyone was once), it can take hours or days of research. This thread is here to cut out the hard part, and just give you good PC builds that an experienced builder personally recommends. If you have any issues or questions with your build, you are always welcome in this chat: https://discord.gg/0o2qgQkvz7aQUeis I am available most of the day time (GMT +2 time zone), and if not, there are plenty of people who can help you there. I would recommend you verify it with me before you make any purchases because I am a cat and thus superior in most every way u wot m88. I havenGÇÖt seen anything of the sort so far, but you never know. Sadly, due to regional price and supply differences, this guideGÇÖs prices only apply to the United States. Other places in the world are often more expensive when it comes to PC parts, and the selection is sometimes limited. First, a quick primer on terminology... Dictionary: CPU Picture: Central Processing Unit - The brain of your computer, handles all day to day tasks your computer does. GPU Picture: Graphics Processing Unit - Handles tasks the CPU is relatively bad at handling. This is the most important part for gamers, as the GPU has the most direct impact on the experience. RAM Picture: Random Access Memory - Temporary storage for applications that need quick access to data, where a hard drive or SSD are too slow for the task. Having too much of it will give you no benefit, as unused RAM is wasted RAM, but having too little can cause stuttering and other nasty things in games. Motherboard Picture: - Acts as a sort of connector for all of your parts. All of your main components plug into it, and itGÇÖs what decides how many and of what type of connectors (USB, Ethernet, etc.) you have. HDD Picture: Hard Disk Drive - Holds all of your files and data that the computer doesnGÇÖt need to access very fast. ItGÇÖs order of magnitudes slower than RAM, but itGÇÖs also much cheaper per GB, and the data on it doesnGÇÖt disappear when you power down your computer. SSD Picture: Solid State Drive - A faster, quieter, more power efficient version of the HDD. Still slower than RAM, but much faster than HDDGÇÖs. It is more expensive than an HDD, but itGÇÖs common to have a 120GB-250GB SSD for your OS (Windows), and then a larger HDD for the rest. This makes your system feel much more responsive and boot up much faster than with a simple HDD. PSU Picture: Power Supply - Exactly as it sounds. Supplies your computer with power. DONGÇÖT SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY. It might be tempting to get a cheap one, but theyGÇÖre potentially a FIRE HAZARD, and can seriously damage your ENTIRE PC. A good power supply protects the rest of your computer in case of a power surge or other failure, a bad power supply burns your house down. Case Picture: - The box that holds your computer together. They arenGÇÖt particularly advanced, but there are still features you want to look out for. Ease of use, room for cable management, hard drive bays, graphics card clearance, etc. OC Picture: Overclocking - Pushing your hardware beyond its off the shelf specifications. CPUGÇÖs, GPUGÇÖs and RAM tend to be capable of more than what they come out of the box. You can increase their performance often up to 15% (and sometimes more), but they will generate more heat and take more power, so these things need to be taken into account. Overclocking is beyond the scope of this guide, but there are plenty of guides on the internet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUEMS-B1Siw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcta3RStYSM As good examples. Darth-Carbonite GIO > "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.08 16:10:00 - [2] - Quote Build #1: Standard GÇÿScoutGÇÖ Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r4pqcf Price: 344$ Description: The absolute bare bones gaming machine that will still give you a decent experience. DonGÇÖt expect miracles, but you should be able to run modern games on modest settings. The CPU is overclockable, however there isnGÇÖt a custom cooler, and as such I wouldnGÇÖt recommend trying it. Build #2: Advanced GÇÿScoutGÇÖ Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HWzQt6 Price: 425$ Description: Still fairly barebones, however it comes with a custom CPU cooler, and a very good one at that. So if you look up overclocking guides, you can push your CPU quite a bit beyond its stock limits. Otherwise the same PC, with just a higher quality motherboard and cooling. Build #3: Prototype GÇÿScoutGÇÖ Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gsm4yc Price: 515$ Description: This buildGÇÖs advantageGÇÖs are a faster CPU, the same cooler as the Advanced GÇÿScoutGÇÖ, an SSD, and a better case, making the building experience slightly more pleasant. The CPU is a good overclocker, and is a 6 core (Although itGÇÖs an AMD 6 core, so each core by itself is weaker than the previous builds). Overall, itGÇÖs just a more rounded experience, the GPU is still the same so gaming performance in most cases wonGÇÖt be drastically better, but it will still be better. Build #4: Standard GÇÿAssaultGÇÖ [RECOMMENDED BANG FOR BUCK.] Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Xc4KYJ Price: 585$ Description: This is a massive upgrade over the previous build. The R9 380 has far higher performance than the GTX 750 Ti, but otherwise it is the same build as the previous one. This build will give you a VERY good experience, and I will name this the best bang/buck build here. Expect to run games at medium-high settings @ 60FPS and 1080p for the most part. Exceptions being the super demanding games like Crysis 3, Witcher 3, etc. Alternative parts: GTX 960 (Honestly would not recommend. R9 380 is just superior.) Build #5: Advanced GÇÿAssaultGÇÖ [RECOMMENDED BANG FOR BUCK] Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qMwdsY Price: 772$ Description: We are getting into GÇ£console crusherGÇ¥ territory. The CPU is not overclockable, but itGÇÖs still very powerful. The SSD is of higher caliber, not only having higher capacity, but higher speed and longevity as well. The real star of this show however is the R9 390, a MASSIVE upgrade over both the GTX 750 Ti and the R9 380. It is the video card I own, and quite frankly for 1080p I donGÇÖt need anything more. It plows through 99.99% of games on the highest settings at 60 or more frames per second. WARNING: I would not recommend overclocking the R9 390 with this power supply. It is a hungry beast, and the power supply is already at its limits. Alternative parts: GTX 970 (A good card, though R9 390 edges it out IMO) Build #6: Prototype GÇÿAssaultGÇÖ Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Nwk4yc Price: 869$ Description: Now weGÇÖre putting on the big boy pants. We have an overclockable mid-high end Intel CPU. It will plow through pretty much anything you throw at it gaming wise. The SSD is a downgrade to fit into this price category, however the motherboard is better, supporting excellent overclocking. The power supply is also a good improvement, supporting overclocks for both the CPU and GPU. The case is also a large improvement, giving you high end features with very little cutbacks anywhere. Alternative parts: GTX 970 (A good card, though R9 390 edges it out IMO) Darth-Carbonite GIO > "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.08 16:11:00 - [3] - Quote Build #7: FrameGÇÖs Modified PCGÇÖ Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VnywNG Price: 1044$ Description: A fairly modest upgrade. It gives you your high end SSD back, which was cut from the previous build. The main upgrade however is the R9 390x. ItGÇÖs not leaps and bounds above the R9 390, but itGÇÖs still a fair upgrade. Build #8: ArchdukeGÇÖs Modified PC Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RTZN3C Price: 1157$ Description: All around the same system as the previous one, except for one key difference: The GPU. The R9 Fury is a very sizeable upgrade, and itGÇÖs the first one that I would recommend for 4k gaming of any kind (though not with all games, and not at the highest settings). Alternative parts: GTX 980 (A very good card, but I have my worries about the memory bandwidth in conjunction with the 4GB of GDDR5. 4GB of HBM is just more future proof.) Build #9: RattatiGÇÖs Modified PC Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CNxyJx Price: 1805$ Description: This. This right here is a monster. It sports the best of the best of everything (within reason. No 5960x here). The CPU is a monstrous 6 core Intel, that is also overclockable, AND comes with a liquid cooler to allow you to push it to the limits. The motherboard is also top end, sporting every feature under the sun, and being built with the highest quality materials and components, ensuring longevity and performance. The memory is 16Gb, and of the newer DDR4 standard, with room for far more in the future. The hard drive got upgraded to a Black variant, being the fastest hard drives on the market (With the exception of the ridiculous velociraptor drives). The graphics card is pretty much top end, thereGÇÖs really nothing better than it. Same thing with the case, no feature spared, only highest quality materials. And the power supply is a 1000W Gold power supply, ensuring both efficiency and room for improvement in the future. Alternative parts: R9 Fury X (Advantage being liquid cooling, so in theory quieter and cooler. However in my opinion the GTX 980 Ti is overall better.) Disclaimers: All of the prices are subject to change on a daily basis. The prices are as of the time of writing. From my conversations with CCP Rattati and the CPM, all of the above machines should be able to play the new DUST project well. HOWEVER, the game is still in early stages of development, so NO PROMISES from either me or CCP staff about how the lower end machines will perform. We only know what theyGÇÖre targeting right now. If youGÇÖre worried about that, anything above Build #4 (Standard GÇÿAssaultGÇÖ) should with almost complete certainty run the game very well. If youGÇÖre reading this 6 months down the line from this postGÇÖs creation, it will most likely be highly outdated and irrelevant. Seek out assistance in the Discord channel here: https://discord.gg/0o2qgQkvz7aQUeis. [] #FreeRipley2016 Darth-Carbonite GIO* > "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 29	Posted - 2016.02.08 16:13:00 - [4] - Quote Scout untermensch confirmed. Everything has to come to an end, sometime.
Maxor haxor Horizons' Edge The-Office 118	Posted - 2016.02.08 16:15:00 - [5] - Quote Reserved. It is I! Maybe deadcatz!
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.08 16:16:00 - [6] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Scout untermensch confirmed. Originally the "Officer" machines were supposed to be Sentinels, but Ripley said: Ripley Riley wrote: > Implying sentinels are superior to assaults And changed it. topkek Darth-Carbonite GIO > "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
Scalesdini BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 453	Posted - 2016.02.08 16:55:00 - [7] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Scout untermensch confirmed. Originally the "Officer" machines were supposed to be Sentinels, but Ripley said: Ripley Riley wrote: > Implying sentinels are superior to assaults And changed it. topkek Sentinels are better than assaults. This thread gets the Scalesdini PC Seal of Approval.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.08 17:20:00 - [8] - Quote Scalesdini wrote: This thread gets the Scalesdini PC Seal of Approval. Almost as prestigious as.... Comprehensive PC building guide
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2016.02.08 17:40:00 - [9] - Quote I haven't gone through the whole list, but wouldn't it be good and wise to replace the 980 /ti with a 970 oc in #8 or #9 ? As far as I know the 980 / ti have a little edge but costs a lot more than a 970 oc. Just curious if there is a particular reason for that take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.08 17:40:00 - [10] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: I haven't gone through the whole list, but wouldn't it be good and wise to replace the 980 /ti with a 970 oc in #8 or #9 ? As far as I know the 980 / ti have a little edge but costs a lot more than a 970 oc. Just curious if there is a particular reason for that GTX 980 Ti is leaps and bounds above the GTX 970, it's not even a competition. Comprehensive PC building guide

xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2016.02.08 17:51:00 - [11] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: I haven't gone through the whole list, but wouldn't it be good and wise to replace the 980 /ti with a 970 oc in #8 or #9 ? As far as I know the 980 / ti have a little edge but costs a lot more than a 970 oc. Just curious if there is a particular reason for that GTX 980 Ti is leaps and bounds above the GTX 970, it's not even a competition. Well, if you keep in mind the overall price, it's not that bad: here's a comparison video I found and the 970 oc is half the price. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Scalesdini BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 454	Posted - 2016.02.08 17:56:00 - [12] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Cat Merc wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: I haven't gone through the whole list, but wouldn't it be good and wise to replace the 980 /ti with a 970 oc in #8 or #9 ? As far as I know the 980 / ti have a little edge but costs a lot more than a 970 oc. Just curious if there is a particular reason for that GTX 980 Ti is leaps and bounds above the GTX 970, it's not even a competition. Well, if you keep in mind the overall price, it's not that bad: here's a comparison video I found and the 970 oc is half the price. It's half the price because it's half the performance.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.08 18:02:00 - [13] - Quote Scalesdini wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Cat Merc wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: I haven't gone through the whole list, but wouldn't it be good and wise to replace the 980 /ti with a 970 oc in #8 or #9 ? As far as I know the 980 / ti have a little edge but costs a lot more than a 970 oc. Just curious if there is a particular reason for that GTX 980 Ti is leaps and bounds above the GTX 970, it's not even a competition. Well, if you keep in mind the overall price, it's not that bad: here's a comparison video I found and the 970 oc is half the price. It's half the price because it's half the performance. And let's not forget that 980 Ti's are excellent overclockers, so whatever you gain with overclocking the GTX 970, you can do the same with the 980 Ti. Comprehensive PC building guide
Kevall Longstride Dust University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.02.08 19:16:00 - [14] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: I haven't gone through the whole list, but wouldn't it be good and wise to replace the 980 /ti with a 970 oc in #8 or #9 ? As far as I know the 980 / ti have a little edge but costs a lot more than a 970 oc. Just curious if there is a particular reason for that GTX 980 Ti is leaps and bounds above the GTX 970, it's not even a competition. Having got a 980ti, can confirm its superiority. CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University
Scalesdini BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 457	Posted - 2016.02.08 19:29:00 - [15] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Cat Merc wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: I haven't gone through the whole list, but wouldn't it be good and wise to replace the 980 /ti with a 970 oc in #8 or #9 ? As far as I know the 980 / ti have a little edge but costs a lot more than a 970 oc. Just curious if there is a particular reason for that GTX 980 Ti is leaps and bounds above the GTX 970, it's not even a competition. Having got a 980ti, can confirm its superiority. Having had one since June and been using it with my 55" 4k TV, can confirm it and 4k's superiority.
Kaze Eyrou Dust University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.02.08 19:30:00 - [16] - Quote Great thread Cat. And excellent Dust fitting equivalents for people to get a better understanding! CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 411	Posted - 2016.02.08 21:20:00 - [17] - Quote While it's true that a proper gaming PC should be built from scratch rather than buying a pre-built, EvE will quite happily run on a good laptop. I have a number of laptops that run EvE with no dramas. The graphics settings can be dialed down for performance, which means EvE can be run on virtually anything decent. The same will likely be the same with Dust: Phoenix (DoPC). There may be an argument you need better graphics for a FPS, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't run on a good laptop.
Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 495	Posted - 2016.02.08 21:28:00 - [18] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: While it's true that a proper gaming PC should be built from scratch rather than buying a pre-built, EvE will quite happily run on a good laptop. I have a number of laptops that run EvE with no dramas. The graphics settings can be dialed down for performance, which means EvE can be run on virtually anything decent. The same will likely be the same with Dust: Phoenix (DoPC). There may be an argument you need better graphics for a FPS, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't run on a good laptop. Yes, but Eve has had 10+ years of optimization under its belt... #PortDust514
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.08 21:34:00 - [19] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: While it's true that a proper gaming PC should be built from scratch rather than buying a pre-built, EvE will quite happily run on a good laptop. I have a number of laptops that run EvE with no dramas. The graphics settings can be dialed down for performance, which means EvE can be run on virtually anything decent. The same will likely be the same with Dust: Phoenix (DoPC). There may be an argument you need better graphics for a FPS, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't run on a good laptop. That's all well and good, but I actually asked Rattati what systems they're targeting for this thread. They're targeting mid range PC's, so things like the 750 Ti, with options for higher end machines. EVE is a game released in 2003, and despite the various graphics upgrades it had throughout the years, is absolutely not indicative of what your average game takes performance wise. Comprehensive PC building guide
Scalesdini BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 458	Posted - 2016.02.08 22:47:00 - [20] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: PSU Picture: Power Supply - Exactly as it sounds. Supplies your computer with power. DONGÇÖT SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY. It might be tempting to get a cheap one, but theyGÇÖre potentially a FIRE HAZARD, and can seriously damage your ENTIRE PC. A good power supply protects the rest of your computer in case of a power surge or other failure, a bad power supply burns your house down. This is worth repeating all on its own. Please do not buy a cheap power supply. You will risk frying your components, your PC exploding into a ball of fire, or yourself being electrocuted. None of that is a joke or an exaggeration. All of the builds CatMerc has listed use excellent quality PSU's. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html If you're planning your own build or modifying one of CatMerc's and want to try to save on PSU's, that's a list of PSU's and their grade from best to worst. There can be large variation even amongst different models from the same manufacturer, so don't assume that because one brand makes a good PSU that all of their PSU's are good.

Draxus Prime Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2016.02.09 00:23:00 - [21] - Quote These are some good builds, but the only issue is with the first few you can get a i3 instead of fx 6300, its leaps and bounds better then the 6300 in single core performance which is what matters for gaming. Just saying "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner." - Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Scout
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 493	Posted - 2016.02.09 00:31:00 - [22] - Quote Great build list! For my Aussie friends looking to build a PC I can recommend two suppliers: 1 - PCCaseGear. Started out as a place to buy the bits and pieces to mod your PC case (~ Early 2000's when that was all the rage) so they have a fair bit of 'PC enthusiast' prestige. Good prices and excellent support. 2 - MSY. Absolute bare bones brick-and-mortar PC component suppliers that offers the lowest prices in the country. The service isn't great so it's usually best to bring a list of the parts you want that you can hand to them when it's your turn to be served. Something is killing new player retention.
Aeon Amadi 13	Posted - 2016.02.09 01:36:00 - [23] - Quote +1. Cool stuff. Skype: Nomistrav "Bastard at Heart"
Ralden Caster Random Gunz The-Office 394	Posted - 2016.02.09 02:30:00 - [24] - Quote Proto Assault is $689, not $869 EVE: PENIX THE HARDEST FPS COMING ON PC
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2016.02.09 02:36:00 - [25] - Quote How much detotated WAM do I need to play Wegion at the WAN party, I'll dwive my Wamborgini wight over. *Waves that dye the land gold. Blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat. The path the Sef descend drawn in ash.
BLACK SHEEPX Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.02.09 02:37:00 - [26] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: By now we've all heard the news: the PS3 version of DUST will be kill in May, and it wonGÇÖt be moving to the PS4, but rather the PC. The temptation to take the easy way out by purchasing a prebuilt is great but please DONGÇÖT BUY A PREBUILT FROM BEST BUY OR SIMILAR BIG BOX STORE You will overpay, you will get an inferior product, and you wonGÇÖt receive decent service to compensate for it. Instead, I recommend building a PC yourself. As scary as it sounds, there are countless guides on the internet to help you with every part of the build. Here is a video I highly recommend you watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Q8ksRI1Eo To be frank, thatGÇÖs the easy part of building a PC. The harder part is figuring out exactly what parts you need/want to purchase. For an experienced PC builder this only takes minutes, but for a first timer (as everyone was once), it can take hours or days of research. This thread is here to cut out the hard part, and just give you good PC builds that an experienced builder personally recommends. If you have any issues or questions with your build, you are always welcome in this chat: https://discord.gg/0o2qgQkvz7aQUeis I am available most of the day time (GMT +2 time zone), and if not, there are plenty of people who can help you there. I would recommend you verify it with me before you make any purchases because I am a cat and thus superior in most every way u wot m88. I havenGÇÖt seen anything of the sort so far, but you never know. Sadly, due to regional price and supply differences, this guideGÇÖs prices only apply to the United States. Other places in the world are often more expensive when it comes to PC parts, and the selection is sometimes limited. First, a quick primer on terminology... Dictionary: CPU Picture: Central Processing Unit - The brain of your computer, handles all day to day tasks your computer does. GPU Picture: Graphics Processing Unit - Handles tasks the CPU is relatively bad at handling. This is the most important part for gamers, as the GPU has the most direct impact on the experience. RAM Picture: Random Access Memory - Temporary storage for applications that need quick access to data, where a hard drive or SSD are too slow for the task. Having too much of it will give you no benefit, as unused RAM is wasted RAM, but having too little can cause stuttering and other nasty things in games. Motherboard Picture: - Acts as a sort of connector for all of your parts. All of your main components plug into it, and itGÇÖs what decides how many and of what type of connectors (USB, Ethernet, etc.) you have. HDD Picture: Hard Disk Drive - Holds all of your files and data that the computer doesnGÇÖt need to access very fast. ItGÇÖs order of magnitudes slower than RAM, but itGÇÖs also much cheaper per GB, and the data on it doesnGÇÖt disappear when you power down your computer. SSD Picture: Solid State Drive - A faster, quieter, more power efficient version of the HDD. Still slower than RAM, but much faster than HDDGÇÖs. It is more expensive than an HDD, but itGÇÖs common to have a 120GB-250GB SSD for your OS (Windows), and then a larger HDD for the rest. This makes your system feel much more responsive and boot up much faster than with a simple HDD. PSU Picture: Power Supply - Exactly as it sounds. Supplies your computer with power. DONGÇÖT SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY. It might be tempting to get a cheap one, but theyGÇÖre potentially a FIRE HAZARD, and can seriously damage your ENTIRE PC. A good power supply protects the rest of your computer in case of a power surge or other failure, a bad power supply burns your house down. Case Picture: - The box that holds your computer together. They arenGÇÖt particularly advanced, but there are still features you want to look out for. Ease of use, room for cable management, hard drive bays, graphics card clearance, etc. OC Picture: Overclocking - Pushing your hardware beyond its off the shelf specifications. CPUGÇÖs, GPUGÇÖs and RAM tend to be capable of more than what they come out of the box. You can increase their performance often up to 15% (and sometimes more), but they will generate more heat and take more power, so these things need to be taken into account. Overclocking is beyond the scope of this guide, but there are plenty of guides on the internet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUEMS-B1Siw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcta3RStYSM As good examples. this post is verry helpfull thank you :)
BLACK SHEEPX Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.02.09 02:43:00 - [27] - Quote BLACK SHEEPX wrote: Cat Merc wrote: By now we've all heard the news: the PS3 version of DUST will be kill in May, and it wonGÇÖt be moving to the PS4, but rather the PC. The temptation to take the easy way out by purchasing a prebuilt is great but please DONGÇÖT BUY A PREBUILT FROM BEST BUY OR SIMILAR BIG BOX STORE You will overpay, you will get an inferior product, and you wonGÇÖt receive decent service to compensate for it. Instead, I recommend building a PC yourself. As scary as it sounds, there are countless guides on the internet to help you with every part of the build. Here is a video I highly recommend you watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Q8ksRI1Eo To be frank, thatGÇÖs the easy part of building a PC. The harder part is figuring out exactly what parts you need/want to purchase. For an experienced PC builder this only takes minutes, but for a first timer (as everyone was once), it can take hours or days of research. This thread is here to cut out the hard part, and just give you good PC builds that an experienced builder personally recommends. If you have any issues or questions with your build, you are always welcome in this chat: https://discord.gg/0o2qgQkvz7aQUeis I am available most of the day time (GMT +2 time zone), and if not, there are plenty of people who can help you there. I would recommend you verify it with me before you make any purchases because I am a cat and thus superior in most every way u wot m88. I havenGÇÖt seen anything of the sort so far, but you never know. Sadly, due to regional price and supply differences, this guideGÇÖs prices only apply to the United States. Other places in the world are often more expensive when it comes to PC parts, and the selection is sometimes limited. First, a quick primer on terminology... Dictionary: CPU Picture: Central Processing Unit - The brain of your computer, handles all day to day tasks your computer does. GPU Picture: Graphics Processing Unit - Handles tasks the CPU is relatively bad at handling. This is the most important part for gamers, as the GPU has the most direct impact on the experience. RAM Picture: Random Access Memory - Temporary storage for applications that need quick access to data, where a hard drive or SSD are too slow for the task. Having too much of it will give you no benefit, as unused RAM is wasted RAM, but having too little can cause stuttering and other nasty things in games. Motherboard Picture: - Acts as a sort of connector for all of your parts. All of your main components plug into it, and itGÇÖs what decides how many and of what type of connectors (USB, Ethernet, etc.) you have. HDD Picture: Hard Disk Drive - Holds all of your files and data that the computer doesnGÇÖt need to access very fast. ItGÇÖs order of magnitudes slower than RAM, but itGÇÖs also much cheaper per GB, and the data on it doesnGÇÖt disappear when you power down your computer. SSD Picture: Solid State Drive - A faster, quieter, more power efficient version of the HDD. Still slower than RAM, but much faster than HDDGÇÖs. It is more expensive than an HDD, but itGÇÖs common to have a 120GB-250GB SSD for your OS (Windows), and then a larger HDD for the rest. This makes your system feel much more responsive and boot up much faster than with a simple HDD. PSU Picture: Power Supply - Exactly as it sounds. Supplies your computer with power. DONGÇÖT SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY. It might be tempting to get a cheap one, but theyGÇÖre potentially a FIRE HAZARD, and can seriously damage your ENTIRE PC. A good power supply protects the rest of your computer in case of a power surge or other failure, a bad power supply burns your house down. Case Picture: - The box that holds your computer together. They arenGÇÖt particularly advanced, but there are still features you want to look out for. Ease of use, room for cable management, hard drive bays, graphics card clearance, etc. OC Picture: Overclocking - Pushing your hardware beyond its off the shelf specifications. CPUGÇÖs, GPUGÇÖs and RAM tend to be capable of more than what they come out of the box. You can increase their performance often up to 15% (and sometimes more), but they will generate more heat and take more power, so these things need to be taken into account. Overclocking is beyond the scope of this guide, but there are plenty of guides on the internet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUEMS-B1Siw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcta3RStYSM As good examples. ...
SgtDoughnut Intara Direct Action Caldari State 613	Posted - 2016.02.09 03:28:00 - [28] - Quote Great builds cat.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.09 06:27:00 - [29] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: These are some good builds, but the only issue is with the first few you can get a i3 instead of fx 6300, its leaps and bounds better then the 6300 in single core performance which is what matters for gaming. Just saying It may have been true a couple years ago, but not anymore. Thanks to the PS4/Xbox one, gaming (and computer software in general) is becoming more and more multithreaded, hence multicore CPU's like the FX 6300 stomp the i3. You also have to consider that this is the real world, not benchmarks. The user will have other things running on his computer, Skype, teamspeak, maybe an IRC client, some music playing, etc'. In these situations, the i3's dual core will be fighting to actually process the game itself, so you'll get horrible frame times. I've seen it with my own eyes. i3 is good in benchmarks, but they give you terrible overall experience. Comprehensive PC building guide
Danja Dom Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 32	Posted - 2016.02.09 07:24:00 - [30] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: These are some good builds, but the only issue is with the first few you can get a i3 instead of fx 6300, its leaps and bounds better then the 6300 in single core performance which is what matters for gaming. Just saying It may have been true a couple years ago, but not anymore. Thanks to the PS4/Xbox one, gaming (and computer software in general) is becoming more and more multithreaded, hence multicore CPU's like the FX 6300 stomp the i3. You also have to consider that this is the real world, not benchmarks. The user will have other things running on his computer. Skype, teamspeak, maybe an IRC client, some music playing, etc'. In these situations, the i3's dual core will be fighting to actually process the game itself, so you'll get horrible frame times. I've seen it with my own eyes. i3 is good in benchmarks, but they give you terrible overall experience. I3 is still better at gaming, already been proven a hundred times over in recent youtube vids also, fact is Intel is so much richer than AMD they haven't really got a chance, the da,n pentium g3258 still beats fx 6300 in alot of games, the fx is just outdone by i3s when it comes to gaming. "Rules were made to be broken"

Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.09 07:27:00 - [31] - Quote Danja Dom wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: These are some good builds, but the only issue is with the first few you can get a i3 instead of fx 6300, its leaps and bounds better then the 6300 in single core performance which is what matters for gaming. Just saying It may have been true a couple years ago, but not anymore. Thanks to the PS4/Xbox one, gaming (and computer software in general) is becoming more and more multithreaded, hence multicore CPU's like the FX 6300 stomp the i3. You also have to consider that this is the real world, not benchmarks. The user will have other things running on his computer. Skype, teamspeak, maybe an IRC client, some music playing, etc'. In these situations, the i3's dual core will be fighting to actually process the game itself, so you'll get horrible frame times. I've seen it with my own eyes. i3 is good in benchmarks, but they give you terrible overall experience. I3 is still better at gaming, already been proven a hundred times over in recent youtube vids also, fact is Intel is so much richer than AMD they haven't really got a chance, the damn pentium g3258 still beats fx 6300 in alot of games, the fx is just outdone by i3s when it comes to gaming. Do I need to repeat myself? Benchmarks are not real world usage. Comprehensive PC building guide
Danja Dom Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 32	Posted - 2016.02.09 07:31:00 - [32] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Danja Dom wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: These are some good builds, but the only issue is with the first few you can get a i3 instead of fx 6300, its leaps and bounds better then the 6300 in single core performance which is what matters for gaming. Just saying It may have been true a couple years ago, but not anymore. Thanks to the PS4/Xbox one, gaming (and computer software in general) is becoming more and more multithreaded, hence multicore CPU's like the FX 6300 stomp the i3. You also have to consider that this is the real world, not benchmarks. The user will have other things running on his computer. Skype, teamspeak, maybe an IRC client, some music playing, etc'. In these situations, the i3's dual core will be fighting to actually process the game itself, so you'll get horrible frame times. I've seen it with my own eyes. i3 is good in benchmarks, but they give you terrible overall experience. I3 is still better at gaming, already been proven a hundred times over in recent youtube vids also, fact is Intel is so much richer than AMD they haven't really got a chance, the damn pentium g3258 still beats fx 6300 in alot of games, the fx is just outdone by i3s when it comes to gaming. Do I need to repeat myself? Benchmarks are not real world usage. Not going by benhmarks, going by actual gaming performance, from HANDS ON experience. Also digital foundry will confirm, wanna argue with thrm aswell as u seem to have a hard on for fx 6300. "Rules were made to be broken"
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.09 07:33:00 - [33] - Quote When I'm back home with a keyboard I'll explain it more clearly. I'm on a phone right now. Comprehensive PC building guide
Danja Dom Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 32	Posted - 2016.02.09 07:37:00 - [34] - Quote Im just letting u know i know from first hand real world testing, not benchmarks online. The fact that videos back this up just support the facts, but i have had both an fx 6300 and an i3 4130, and the i3 out did the fx in games without fail. Of course with same gpu. "Rules were made to be broken"
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.09 07:45:00 - [35] - Quote Danja Dom wrote: Im just letting u know i know from first hand real world testing, not benchmarks online. The fact that videos back this up just support the facts, but i have had both an fx 6300 and an i3 4130, and the i3 out did the fx in games without fail. Of course with same gpu. I'm not saying the i3 won't outperform the FX in FPS numbers, but there's more to perfomance and the user experience than that. I'll explain it once I get home, with math, benchmarks, and real world usage examples. Comprehensive PC building guide
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2	Posted - 2016.02.09 09:48:00 - [36] - Quote That's probably what's best if you want an Intel alternative to the $500 build : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FXkGK8 EDIT : Should be stickied Game over.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.09 09:56:00 - [37] - Quote Alright, now that I'm back home, I'll lay it out as simply as I can. There are three reasons why I think the FX6300 is the better choice: 1. Better multi-threading support 2. More consistent experience 3. Better overall system performance Now that I've laid it out, I'll explain each point: 1. Better multi-threading support is self explanatory. The i3 has 2 cores with 4 threads, while the FX 6300 has 6 cores (albeit slightly odd cores, but still cores.). The i3 has 4 threads thanks to multi-threading, but that in >best case< scenarios gives you 20% more performance. A tri core without multi-threading is still superior to a dual core with multi-threading. Now the reason this is important is because of the Xbox One and PS4. They both have 8 core Jaguar CPU's, running at 1.8Ghz and 1.6Ghz respectively. As you can probably tell, they have abysmal single threaded performance, hence multi-threading in modern games is pretty much a must. Modern games from now on and into the foreseeable future will all be quite heavily multi-threaded. 2. A modern PC doesn't just run a single game and is done with it. There are a lot of background programs and services that run. While that's not an issue if you have something overpowered for most games like a modern i5, for weaker CPU's like i3's or Pentiums, their already limited core count has to juggle all of those tasks AND the game. This causes poor frame times. That's an important distinction, because frame times are not exactly the same as frame rates. Frame rate is how many frames per second, so lets say 60. Frame time is how consistent the frames are. In a best case perfect scenario of 60FPS, there is a new frame drawn to the screen every 16.6ms. However, there can be occasions where 1 frame is drawn in the first 500ms, and then the rest of the 59 frames are drawn in the other 500ms (very extreme scenario). That's where you see stutter. It will still be 60FPS, but it will be inconsistent and quite honestly, unplayable 60FPS. https://youtu.be/G5ejBlynOV8?t=2m14s If you look here, you'll see a frame time comparison on the right side of the screen. While it's hard to see due to clutter, the FX 6300 is the most consistent one there. That's simply due to it not having to waste cycles on switching tasks. This difference will only grow the more things the testing machine is doing. In benchmarks like with Digital Foundry, the PC's usually have very little to nothing running in the background, so it's not a real world representation of system load and performance. 3. The benchmarks you keep seeing online don't overclock their CPU's, so you don't see the FX-6300 in its full potential. Skylake generation processors have about a 50% advantage in IPC against AMD's latest FX CPU's. That means that they can do 50% more per core on the same Ghz. Core i3 6100 is locked at 3.7Ghz, can't overclock it. Meanwhile, the FX-6300 is a beautiful overclocker, and 95% of units can push themselves from the base 3.5Ghz all the way up to 4.5Ghz. That's about a 30% improvement over all of the cores. The FX 6300 at >base clock< is nearly identical to the i3 6300, rarely falling behind by more than 5%-10%. I think you can easily see where I'm going with this. An overclocked FX-6300 eats the i3 6300 for breakfast, The i3 also only has a pitiful 3MB cache, while the FX-6300 has more than 14MB of cache across multiple levels. That means the i3 is more dependent on fast memory, and it means that if you have bandwidth heavy tasks, the i3 will choke. That's not to say there aren't advantages to the i3. 1. It uses less power 2. Generates less heat 3. Has DDR4 memory, which is quite quickly becoming cheaper than DDR3, and is faster and consumes less power. In the end, the FX 6300 is the best bang for the buck in my honest opinion. I will make an i3 build and link this explanation, and let the buyer decide. But I still stand by my original build. Comprehensive PC building guide
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 29	Posted - 2016.02.09 09:59:00 - [38] - Quote Danja Dom wrote: Im just letting u know i know from first hand real world testing, not benchmarks online. The fact that videos back this up just support the facts, but i have had both an fx 6300 and an i3 4130, and the i3 out did the fx in games without fail. Of course with same gpu. I've always found the insistence that 'statistics are wrong and my views are right' to be a curious phenomenon. Everything has to come to an end, sometime.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.09 10:20:00 - [39] - Quote I added the Intel alternative systems. Let me know if there's anything more you want to know, or if you disagree with my analysis. Comprehensive PC building guide
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.09 10:42:00 - [40] - Quote There's a fantastic deal going on here: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1224099-REG/intel_core_i5_6600k_3_5_ghz.html/mode/edu Basically a free 120$ motherboard. I would highly recommend for anyone shopping for a PC in that price range. Comprehensive PC building guide

Danja Dom Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 35	Posted - 2016.02.09 13:29:00 - [41] - Quote Your reply is pretty spot on, the one thing i think we both left out is upgrade path, im sure you will agree intel is a better option for this, do if they went i3, they could upgrade to i5 or i7 in future as long as the motherboard doesnt die lol "Rules were made to be broken"
Danja Dom Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 35	Posted - 2016.02.09 13:31:00 - [42] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Danja Dom wrote: Im just letting u know i know from first hand real world testing, not benchmarks online. The fact that videos back this up just support the facts, but i have had both an fx 6300 and an i3 4130, and the i3 out did the fx in games without fail. Of course with same gpu. I've always found the insistence that 'statistics are wrong and my views are right' to be a curious phenomenon. The statistics back up my view, soooo i dont know what you are trying to say lol "Rules were made to be broken"
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.09 13:36:00 - [43] - Quote Danja Dom wrote: Your reply is pretty spot on, the one thing i think we both left out is upgrade path, im sure you will agree intel is a better option for this, do if they went i3, they could upgrade to i5 or i7 in future as long as the motherboard doesnt die lol That's a very good point. The AM3+ socket is a dead end one. Only way up from here is the 8350. Comprehensive PC building guide
Thaddeus Reynolds Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 715	Posted - 2016.02.09 13:52:00 - [44] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Danja Dom wrote: Your reply is pretty spot on, the one thing i think we both left out is upgrade path, im sure you will agree intel is a better option for this, do if they went i3, they could upgrade to i5 or i7 in future as long as the motherboard doesnt die lol That's a very good point. The AM3+ socket is a dead end one. Only way up from here is the 8350. Part of the reason I'm waiting 'till we have system requirements and/or a release date to make builds is that AM4/Zen-microarchitecture are expected soon, so not only should AM3/AM3+ builds get cheaper, but there will be newer options from AMD out on the field to consider. Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. #PortDust514 ...Preferably to both PS4 and PC
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.09 14:04:00 - [45] - Quote Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Danja Dom wrote: Your reply is pretty spot on, the one thing i think we both left out is upgrade path, im sure you will agree intel is a better option for this, do if they went i3, they could upgrade to i5 or i7 in future as long as the motherboard doesnt die lol That's a very good point. The AM3+ socket is a dead end one. Only way up from here is the 8350. Part of the reason I'm waiting 'till we have system requirements and/or a release date to make builds is that AM4/Zen-microarchitecture are expected soon, so not only should AM3/AM3+ builds get cheaper, but there will be newer options from AMD out on the field to consider. A couple points. First, we have general system requirements straight from the horses mouth. They're targeting mid range PC's, with R9 380 and GTX 960 being considered as high end. It's not a guarantee by any stretch, but it should tell you what they're trying to do. Second, these builds are here for people who want to get into PC gaming now. I intend to either edit this thread or make a new one once Zen, Pascal, and or Polaris arrive. Comprehensive PC building guide
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.09 17:19:00 - [46] - Quote http://i.imgur.com/OlWYujH.jpg This is a pretty dank meme if I do say so myself. Comprehensive PC building guide
Scalesdini BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 469	Posted - 2016.02.10 15:47:00 - [47] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: http://i.imgur.com/OlWYujH.jpg This is a pretty dank meme if I do say so myself. 0/10, you only post this to feel better about the fact your 390 is going to melt your case one of these days.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.10 16:00:00 - [48] - Quote Scalesdini wrote: Cat Merc wrote: http://i.imgur.com/OlWYujH.jpg This is a pretty dank meme if I do say so myself. 0/10, you only post this to feel better about the fact your 390 is going to melt your case one of these days. It won't live long enough to see the day. I'm buying a Polaris/Pascal GPU once they're out, and giving this one to my brother. Let him deal with the potential nuclear meltdown. Comprehensive PC building guide
StarVenger Horizons' Edge The-Office 153	Posted - 2016.02.10 18:25:00 - [49] - Quote So, I was going to bookmark this page for future reference...................... AKA Meisterjager Jagermeister L1 FW GallAss to the CORE---Founder of Serpentis UNION of the SNAKE Horizons' Edge FTW
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.10 18:32:00 - [50] - Quote StarVenger wrote: So, I was going to bookmark this page for future reference...................... And then you realized life is meaningless? Yeah, I'm with ya bro. Easy PC building guide

Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.11 20:05:00 - [51] - Quote mew Easy PC building guide
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.12 13:46:00 - [52] - Quote ayy lmeow Easy PC building guide
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.13 14:34:00 - [53] - Quote PC > PC Easy PC building guide
501st Synergy Intara Direct Action Caldari State 74	Posted - 2016.02.13 20:18:00 - [54] - Quote This is amazing, you guys who do this are too smart. If I made a build on PCPartPicker, could you rip it apart for me and tell me what would work better or worse?
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.13 21:09:00 - [55] - Quote 501st Synergy wrote: This is amazing, you guys who do this are too smart. If I made a build on PCPartPicker, could you rip it apart for me and tell me what would work better or worse? Yup, just come over to the DUST discord and I'll be glad to help! Easy PC building guide
Scalesdini BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 476	Posted - 2016.02.15 14:30:00 - [56] - Quote Next you need to do a liquid cooling guide CatMerc. OH WAIT YOU'RE AN AIR COOLED PLEB.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2	Posted - 2016.02.19 11:21:00 - [57] - Quote lol Game over.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.21 12:14:00 - [58] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: lol Even as a joke build, I cannot condone the 6700k when the 5820k exists, often being cheaper. Easy PC building guide
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.26 21:46:00 - [59] - Quote ayy Easy PC building guide
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.03.07 13:50:00 - [60] - Quote lmao Easy PC building guide

XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.03.08 00:54:00 - [61] - Quote Well this was a great guide, thanks ArkKirkMerc :D CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.03.08 01:19:00 - [62] - Quote So I'm building #6... But I'm thinking of making a few changes. I'd like to use an i5-6600K and this motherboard. Are there any compatibility issues I might come across? Will I need a bigger PSU or a more powerful fan? Both? Maybe you know of a MB I could use instead that wouldn't have issues? Thanks in advance. Home at Last <3
vlad stoich 402	Posted - 2016.03.08 01:25:00 - [63] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: So I'm building #6... But I'm thinking of making a few changes. I'd like to use an i5-6600K and this motherboard. Are there any compatibility issues I might come across? Will I need a bigger PSU or a more powerful fan? Both? Thanks in advance. I'm addicted to pcpartpicker.Com
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RUST415 4	Posted - 2016.03.08 05:07:00 - [64] - Quote Didn't read any of the thread, just saw title and I laffed. I am the Anti-FoTM Fear my Cal Assault and Amarr Scout!
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2	Posted - 2016.03.08 07:08:00 - [65] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: So I'm building #6... But I'm thinking of making a few changes. I'd like to use an i5-6600K and this motherboard. Are there any compatibility issues I might come across? Will I need a bigger PSU or a more powerful fan? Both? Maybe you know of a MB I could use instead that wouldn't have issues? Thanks in advance. Check the #7 and get the same (or alike) mobo. IIRC the Z series of MB allows for better overclocking which is good to have if you buy a "K" cpu. The PSU is fine and you won't need more unless you have many drives and do extrem overclock. No need more fans ^^ Game over.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.03.08 10:32:00 - [66] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: So I'm building #6... But I'm thinking of making a few changes. I'd like to use an i5-6600K and this motherboard. Are there any compatibility issues I might come across? Will I need a bigger PSU or a more powerful fan? Both? Maybe you know of a MB I could use instead that wouldn't have issues? Thanks in advance. You can just take build #7 and downgrade the GPU to a 390. For future reference, I'm available more around the discord chat, so if you want a quick answer, you can visit there. Easy PC building guide
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.03.08 15:05:00 - [67] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: So I'm building #6... But I'm thinking of making a few changes. I'd like to use an i5-6600K and this motherboard. Are there any compatibility issues I might come across? Will I need a bigger PSU or a more powerful fan? Both? Maybe you know of a MB I could use instead that wouldn't have issues? Thanks in advance. You can just take build #7 and downgrade the GPU to a 390. For future reference, I'm available more around the discord chat, so if you want a quick answer, you can visit there. Thanks, but I've actually gotten it figured out... It cost me a bit more, but I ended up with this. I might have overdone it on the memory, tbh... but whatever. Just one less thing I'll want to upgrade later. Home at Last <3
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.03.08 15:09:00 - [68] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: So I'm building #6... But I'm thinking of making a few changes. I'd like to use an i5-6600K and this motherboard. Are there any compatibility issues I might come across? Will I need a bigger PSU or a more powerful fan? Both? Maybe you know of a MB I could use instead that wouldn't have issues? Thanks in advance. You can just take build #7 and downgrade the GPU to a 390. For future reference, I'm available more around the discord chat, so if you want a quick answer, you can visit there. Thanks, but I've actually gotten it figured out... It cost me a bit more, but I ended up with this. I might have overdone it on the memory, tbh... but whatever. Just one less thing I'll want to upgrade later. Just to make sure you are aware, you can't overclock that system. As for RAM, I actually have 16gigs in my own system. I find it useful. Easy PC building guide
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.03.08 15:12:00 - [69] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: So I'm building #6... But I'm thinking of making a few changes. I'd like to use an i5-6600K and this motherboard. Are there any compatibility issues I might come across? Will I need a bigger PSU or a more powerful fan? Both? Maybe you know of a MB I could use instead that wouldn't have issues? Thanks in advance. You can just take build #7 and downgrade the GPU to a 390. For future reference, I'm available more around the discord chat, so if you want a quick answer, you can visit there. Thanks, but I've actually gotten it figured out... It cost me a bit more, but I ended up with this. I might have overdone it on the memory, tbh... but whatever. Just one less thing I'll want to upgrade later. Just to make sure you are aware, you can't overclock that system. As for RAM, I actually have 16gigs in my own system. I find it useful. I never intended to over clock it, so that's fine. Home at Last <3
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2	Posted - 2016.03.08 23:26:00 - [70] - Quote Wowowo Fizzer, if you think a r9 390 will give you 120 fps on a 4k monitor, you're wrong. It just won't. A 980 ti on games where 4k is useful can't achieve more than 60 fps most of the time so forget about 120 for now x) Now, you changed the ventirad, but that's useless as you can't OC the cpu. Better save your money. Then, you'd better wait for the next gen of gpu if you plan on doing 4k cause I believe both polaris and pascal will be great at it! Game over.

Slayer Deathbringer Planetary Response Organisation FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 42	Posted - 2016.03.17 12:22:00 - [71] - Quote Scalesdini wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Scout untermensch confirmed. Originally the "Officer" machines were supposed to be Sentinels, but Ripley said: Ripley Riley wrote: > Implying sentinels are superior to assaults And changed it. topkek Sentinels are better than assaults. This thread gets the Scalesdini PC Seal of Approval. sentinels aren't but commandos are "It's not my fault that you lost a 1 mill isk suit to a 1k isk forge gun"
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19536	Posted - 2016.03.18 17:06:00 - [72] - Quote ayylmaopcparts Easy PC building guide
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19703	Posted - 2016.04.13 02:23:00 - [73] - Quote zen polaris pascal wen Easy PC building guide
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19940	Posted - 2016.04.24 08:47:00 - [74] - Quote NO MAN LEFT BEHIND Easy PC building guide
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2149	Posted - 2016.04.24 08:59:00 - [75] - Quote This should be stickied ! "I hope we don't have vehicles simply so we don't have to deal with the people who drive them." -Ripley Riley
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13418	Posted - 2016.05.09 01:34:00 - [76] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Build #5: Advanced GÇÿAssaultGÇÖ [RECOMMENDED BANG FOR BUCK] Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qMwdsY Price: 772$ Description: We are getting into GÇ£console crusherGÇ¥ territory. The CPU is not overclockable, but itGÇÖs still very powerful. The SSD is of higher caliber, not only having higher capacity, but higher speed and longevity as well. The real star of this show however is the R9 390, a MASSIVE upgrade over both the GTX 750 Ti and the R9 380. It is the video card I own, and quite frankly for 1080p I donGÇÖt need anything more. It plows through 99.99% of games on the highest settings at 60 or more frames per second. WARNING: I would not recommend overclocking the R9 390 with this power supply. It is a hungry beast, and the power supply is already at its limits. Alternative parts: GTX 970 (A good card, though R9 390 edges it out IMO) So far I have already assembled most of the parts needed to make this particular build. So far I have spent about $631 getting the following items. Radeon R9 390 Thermaltake TR2 600W Western Digital 1TB 7200RPM HDD Samsung 250GB 850 EVO SSD PNY 8GB DDR3 Memory All that's left now is the Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor, ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard, and NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case which will have to be purchased online since none of the local electronics stores (including Best Buy) had them. The parts that I bought were all from my local Best Buy. The G.Skill AEGIS 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory wasn't available at the local store but they did have a PNY alternative which was just the same but with different a brand. I don't know how much the brand impacts it but didn't matter since either one is cheap to buy. The SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply was not available locally either but the Thermaltake TR2 600W showed better efficiency and it was still compatible with the setup I'm aiming for according to PC Part Picker. And despite the extra wattage it was still pretty close in price to the SeaSonic. It seems that the price of the items listed went up a bit for some reason so the total price before getting the operating system will be about $907. Still a lot cheaper than buying a brand new pre-built computer. Unfortunately the DELL XPS case is not listed under PC Parts Picker (that's what my old computer has) so I can't determine if that case is compatible with this setup. The case shown in the link isn't that expensive anyways so I'll go ahead and buy it. Will probably just sell my old computer anyways since that thing is already 10 years old. Here is a picture of the parts I got. https://twitter.com/Henry_Haphorn/status/729442239752056833 Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Ronin Merc Defenders of the Helghast Dream 56	Posted - 2016.05.09 01:51:00 - [77] - Quote Im happy with my prebuilt. Got it for cheap.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2170	Posted - 2016.05.09 07:11:00 - [78] - Quote Hey guys! Don't buy a new graphics card now ! In one month Pascal will be out and probably Polaris as well. Prices of the current gen will drop and the new tech will be really powerful. "I hope we don't have vehicles simply so we don't have to deal with the people who drive them." -Ripley Riley
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 20118	Posted - 2016.05.09 19:37:00 - [79] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Hey guys! Don't buy a new graphics card now ! In one month Pascal will be out and probably Polaris as well. Prices of the current gen will drop and the new tech will be really powerful. Da^ Easy PC building guide
Jenny Tales Eternal Beings SpaceMonkey's Alliance 148	Posted - 2016.05.09 19:55:00 - [80] - Quote the one i was considering for 4K costs over $2000, for a grand total of $3000 with the 4K monitor. building it and everything it's still insanely pricey and a huge decision for me that i havent decided yet http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CXRYkL Whatever happened to DS the Drunk Heavy anyway?

Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 20118	Posted - 2016.05.09 19:56:00 - [81] - Quote Jenny Tales wrote: the one i was considering for 4K costs over $2000, for a grand total of $3000 with the 4K monitor. building it and everything it's still insanely pricey and a huge decision for me that i havent decided yet http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CXRYkL In my opinion, 1440p @ 1440Hz or even 1080p @ 144Hz is better than 4K, and is more reasonable to achieve. Easy PC building guide
Jenny Tales Eternal Beings SpaceMonkey's Alliance 148	Posted - 2016.05.09 19:57:00 - [82] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Hey guys! Don't buy a new graphics card now ! In one month Pascal will be out and probably Polaris as well. Prices of the current gen will drop and the new tech will be really powerful. Good. I'll use the time I've bided wisely then Whatever happened to DS the Drunk Heavy anyway?
Jenny Tales Eternal Beings SpaceMonkey's Alliance 148	Posted - 2016.05.09 20:10:00 - [83] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Jenny Tales wrote: the one i was considering for 4K costs over $2000, for a grand total of $3000 with the 4K monitor. building it and everything it's still insanely pricey and a huge decision for me that i havent decided yet http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CXRYkL In my opinion, 1440p @ 1440Hz or even 1080p @ 144Hz is better than 4K, and is more reasonable to achieve. Also, I would not recommend buying a PC right now. Both NVIDIA and AMD are releasing new stuff to the wild that will make current gen cards pretty much obsolete. Better how? EA and the like are already making games in 4K. I was under the impression it's the next biggest thing. Whatever happened to DS the Drunk Heavy anyway?
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 20118	Posted - 2016.05.09 22:11:00 - [84] - Quote Jenny Tales wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Jenny Tales wrote: the one i was considering for 4K costs over $2000, for a grand total of $3000 with the 4K monitor. building it and everything it's still insanely pricey and a huge decision for me that i havent decided yet http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CXRYkL In my opinion, 1440p @ 1440Hz or even 1080p @ 144Hz is better than 4K, and is more reasonable to achieve. Also, I would not recommend buying a PC right now. Both NVIDIA and AMD are releasing new stuff to the wild that will make current gen cards pretty much obsolete. Better how? EA and the like are already making games in 4K. I was under the impression it's the next biggest thing. Smoother, more fluid. It's a better gaming experience to me than 4K @ 60FPS. I'm basically never going back from 144Hz. Easy PC building guide
Vordred Knight How I Met Your Father 979	Posted - 2016.05.09 22:50:00 - [85] - Quote Fools! I've hand built the most superior computer evaaaaa I call it the little MAC that could The Destruction Of Taris has risen
Radiant Pancake3 Y.A.M.A.H 4595	Posted - 2016.05.09 23:42:00 - [86] - Quote Dedotaded wam. "A quantum super computer, calculating for a thousand years, could not even approach the number of fucks I do not give."
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 29634	Posted - 2016.05.10 00:54:00 - [87] - Quote Vordred Knight wrote: Fools! I've hand built the most superior computer evaaaaa I call it the little MAC that could I'm afraid we're going to have to have you shot. Everything has to come to an end, sometime.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2172	Posted - 2016.05.10 06:55:00 - [88] - Quote Jenny Tales wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Jenny Tales wrote: the one i was considering for 4K costs over $2000, for a grand total of $3000 with the 4K monitor. building it and everything it's still insanely pricey and a huge decision for me that i havent decided yet http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CXRYkL In my opinion, 1440p @ 1440Hz or even 1080p @ 144Hz is better than 4K, and is more reasonable to achieve. Also, I would not recommend buying a PC right now. Both NVIDIA and AMD are releasing new stuff to the wild that will make current gen cards pretty much obsolete. Better how? EA and the like are already making games in 4K. I was under the impression it's the next biggest thing. 4k requires insane horsepower and a very expensive monitor to play at 4K 60Hz+ . Better have a solid 144Hz at 1080p (or a bit less at 1440p) with a beast of a card and get a gsync or freesync monitor for a lower cost ! "I hope we don't have vehicles simply so we don't have to deal with the people who drive them." -Ripley Riley
Jenny Tales Eternal Beings SpaceMonkey's Alliance 159	Posted - 2016.05.11 15:44:00 - [89] - Quote That's just first person shooter logic though. I'm not building a PC for shooters, I'm building it for gaming. And honestly I'll be tempted to just snatch up these new graphics cards immediately upon release and go for a big investment, but that's only if they come with warranties. Obviously they run the risk of asploding. If you ask me money is inconsequential when it comes to your next decade of gaming experiences. Whatever happened to DS the Drunk Heavy anyway?
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 20122	Posted - 2016.05.11 20:30:00 - [90] - Quote Jenny Tales wrote: That's just first person shooter logic though. I'm not building a PC for shooters, I'm building it for gaming. And honestly I'll be tempted to just snatch up these new graphics cards immediately upon release and go for a big investment, but that's only if they come with warranties. Obviously they run the risk of asploding. If you ask me money is inconsequential when it comes to your next decade of gaming experiences. 144Hz vs 60Hz is a massive difference for >everything<, not just first person shooters. Even the difference between the two on my >desktop< is apparent, let alone any type of gaming. Also, a high end gaming computer will last you for a max of 5 years. The highest end GPU's from 5-6 years ago are today's 100$-200$ medium to low end cards. Your worry will be less about the cards exploding and more just becoming irrelevant. Easy PC building guide

Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 20122	Posted - 2016.05.11 20:31:00 - [91] - Quote double post Easy PC building guide
Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven 10183	Posted - 2016.05.11 20:53:00 - [92] - Quote Laptop > PC. Gaming while taking a poo never felt so right. Keys and lockboxes are the root of all evil. 21 Day EVE Trial Bitches
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13425	Posted - 2016.05.11 23:31:00 - [93] - Quote Almost there. Build #5 is almost complete. https://twitter.com/Henry_Haphorn/status/730510029392990208 Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Jenny Tales Eternal Beings SpaceMonkey's Alliance 167	Posted - 2016.05.12 22:54:00 - [94] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Jenny Tales wrote: That's just first person shooter logic though. I'm not building a PC for shooters, I'm building it for gaming. And honestly I'll be tempted to just snatch up these new graphics cards immediately upon release and go for a big investment, but that's only if they come with warranties. Obviously they run the risk of asploding. If you ask me money is inconsequential when it comes to your next decade of gaming experiences. 144Hz vs 60Hz is a massive difference for >everything<, not just first person shooters. Even the difference between the two on my >desktop< is apparent, let alone any type of gaming. Also, a high end gaming computer will last you for a max of 5 years. The highest end GPU's from 5-6 years ago are today's 100$-200$ medium to low end cards. Your worry will be less about the cards exploding and more just becoming irrelevant. Ok I believe you. **** man... I don't like technology but learning it is almost impossible to avoid in this day and age... Fine, I'll do more research. Whatever happened to DS the Drunk Heavy anyway?


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