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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.02.07 23:58:00 -
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I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it.
Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal.
Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO.
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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Llamastar
Kylo's Fist
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Posted - 2016.02.08 00:01:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it.
Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal.
Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO.
You should really consult Google before you talk... |
Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.02.08 00:05:00 -
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Llamastar wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it.
Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal.
Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO. You should really consult Google before you talk...
I'm not saying that there's no money to be made PC wise, just take a look at all the other PC brands making consoles and moving their products to console. Steam Link, Google's VR... Kind of.. Ect.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2016.02.08 00:17:00 -
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The PS4 is just a PC with uniform specs across the board. That means to bring a PC game over to PS4 its just needs to have a new control scheme / UI built around the controller and around the specific hardware inside the PS4.
If you look at War Thunder on PS4 it still has the mouse show up from time to time because they literally just copied the PC version over and tweaked the control scheme.
Does this mean CCP:FPS2 will come to PS4? Not in the slightest. CCP has proven time and time again that their ability to make even the simplest decisions is minimal.
Honestly, I will be surprised if we even see a new FPS hit the market. WoD was in development for 10 years and fell apart because of CCP shifting people back and forth from it to Eve. Now they seem very heavily focused on VR and we have already seen them shift resources around giving VR projects priority over other projects. This is just poor management and nothing at CCP has changed. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
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Posted - 2016.02.08 02:37:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:The PS4 is just a PC with uniform specs across the board. That means to bring a PC game over to PS4 its just needs to have a new control scheme / UI built around the controller and around the specific hardware inside the PS4.
If you look at War Thunder on PS4 it still has the mouse show up from time to time because they literally just copied the PC version over and tweaked the control scheme.
Does this mean CCP:FPS2 will come to PS4? Not in the slightest. CCP has proven time and time again that their ability to make even the simplest decisions is minimal.
Honestly, I will be surprised if we even see a new FPS hit the market. WoD was in development for 10 years and fell apart because of CCP shifting people back and forth from it to Eve. Now they seem very heavily focused on VR and we have already seen them shift resources around giving VR projects priority over other projects. This is just poor management and nothing at CCP has changed.
The PS4 is just a old PC, with uniform specs and a closed OS.
Also... "just copy the PC version" is a funny way to describe a port. It's a little bit more costly and complicated than that.
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2016.02.08 02:47:00 -
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The issue is still control method.
It is objectively impossible to have balanced gameplay between PC and PS4. No matter how good a player using a controller may claim to be, they will be at a massive disadvantage up against raw mouse input, which is an essential feature of all PC FPS games.
The only way to create a balance would be to impose input limits on mice and to use heavy aim assist for controllers, which would drive everyone away from the game.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2016.02.08 03:00:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:The issue is still control method.
It is objectively impossible to have balanced gameplay between PC and PS4. No matter how good a player using a controller may claim to be, they will be at a massive disadvantage up against raw mouse input, which is an essential feature of all PC FPS games.
The only way to create a balance would be to impose input limits on mice and to use heavy aim assist for controllers, which would drive everyone away from the game.
Agree on that. But still, I firmly believe that there's a "golden spot" in Aim Assist sensitivity and all the other tweaks (reticle magnetism, bullet magnetism etc) that would allow console players to be on par without being overpowered.
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
7
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Posted - 2016.02.08 03:13:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:The issue is still control method.
It is objectively impossible to have balanced gameplay between PC and PS4. No matter how good a player using a controller may claim to be, they will be at a massive disadvantage up against raw mouse input, which is an essential feature of all PC FPS games.
The only way to create a balance would be to impose input limits on mice and to use heavy aim assist for controllers, which would drive everyone away from the game. Agree on that. But still, I firmly believe that there's a "golden spot" in Aim Assist sensitivity and all the other tweaks (reticle magnetism, bullet magnetism etc) that would allow console players to be on par without being overpowered.
The fact is that trying at all would be met with scorn from both PC and Console players who would then shun the game entirely.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2016.02.08 03:14:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:The issue is still control method.
It is objectively impossible to have balanced gameplay between PC and PS4. No matter how good a player using a controller may claim to be, they will be at a massive disadvantage up against raw mouse input, which is an essential feature of all PC FPS games.
The only way to create a balance would be to impose input limits on mice and to use heavy aim assist for controllers, which would drive everyone away from the game. Agree on that. But still, I firmly believe that there's a "golden spot" in Aim Assist sensitivity and all the other tweaks (reticle magnetism, bullet magnetism etc) that would allow console players to be on par without being overpowered.
We were pretty much there during chromosome.
Hit detection was just terrible.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
714
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Posted - 2016.02.08 03:14:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:The issue is still control method.
It is objectively impossible to have balanced gameplay between PC and PS4. No matter how good a player using a controller may claim to be, they will be at a massive disadvantage up against raw mouse input, which is an essential feature of all PC FPS games.
The only way to create a balance would be to impose input limits on mice and to use heavy aim assist for controllers, which would drive everyone away from the game.
Another option would be to allow full KB/M support on the console...while not ideal from most console player's perspective, it does provide a level playing field, as both can make use of commonly available peripherals (with KB/M being cheaper than the Proprietary controller solutions).
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#PortDust514 ...Preferably to both PS4 and PC
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
408
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Posted - 2016.02.08 11:00:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it.
Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal.
Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO.
A big problem would be the PSN. On PC, there's no need for a PSN account, just your New Eden account. On PS4, you would also need a PSN account which may well require a separate New Eden account. The two will likely not be interchangeable. |
Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
408
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Posted - 2016.02.08 11:02:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:The PS4 is just a PC with uniform specs across the board. That means to bring a PC game over to PS4 its just needs to have a new control scheme / UI built around the controller and around the specific hardware inside the PS4.
If you look at War Thunder on PS4 it still has the mouse show up from time to time because they literally just copied the PC version over and tweaked the control scheme.
Does this mean CCP:FPS2 will come to PS4? Not in the slightest. CCP has proven time and time again that their ability to make even the simplest decisions is minimal.
Honestly, I will be surprised if we even see a new FPS hit the market. WoD was in development for 10 years and fell apart because of CCP shifting people back and forth from it to Eve. Now they seem very heavily focused on VR and we have already seen them shift resources around giving VR projects priority over other projects. This is just poor management and nothing at CCP has changed.
Their obsession with VR will be their undoing. VR is a gimmick that won't last, because the consumer community can't afford it. |
steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2016.02.08 12:12:00 -
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Yeh everyone said that about personal computers....then mobile phones...then the internet...
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2016.02.08 12:33:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:
Their obsession with VR will be their undoing. VR is a gimmick that won't last, because the consumer community can't afford it.
VR has incredible potential outside of the gaming industry and will do some great stuff.
For gaming it is hard to say where it will go but I feel like it will not ever be more than niche even as the price point comes down. |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2016.02.08 12:45:00 -
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Well it's supposedly being done on the UE4 engine, which makes it much easier for cross platform publishing.
That said, you'll probably find the PS4 isn't actually around by phoniex is actually released.
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2016.02.08 12:53:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it.
Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal.
Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO.
Hey man, World of Tanks is on PS4 and XBONE just so more people can play it and pay the developers, it's staying on PC forever, just like War Thunder.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:11:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it.
Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal.
Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO.
If it is successful and profitable on the PC, then the chance of a port to PS4 goes way up.
You can be certain that a port will not go beyond the "would be nice" conversation around the water cooler until they see how it does no PC.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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deo volente2
SVER True Blood
RUST415
32
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:30:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it.
Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal.
Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO.
have you ever looked at what EVE players said about dust players, consoles are not welcome in EVE, never have never will be welcome it's quiete simply elitest behaviour on their part, which speaks volumes about your average pc gamer
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Murder Medic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
610
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:47:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:The issue is still control method.
It is objectively impossible to have balanced gameplay between PC and PS4. No matter how good a player using a controller may claim to be, they will be at a massive disadvantage up against raw mouse input, which is an essential feature of all PC FPS games.
The only way to create a balance would be to impose input limits on mice and to use heavy aim assist for controllers, which would drive everyone away from the game.
I think the game will come with input restrictions anyways simply because heavies turning around in 1/30 of a second should basically never be a thing.
Also a lot of PS4 games you can just plug a mouse and keyboard into anyways.
Farewell DUST
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
410
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Posted - 2016.02.08 21:11:00 -
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Murder Medic wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:The issue is still control method.
It is objectively impossible to have balanced gameplay between PC and PS4. No matter how good a player using a controller may claim to be, they will be at a massive disadvantage up against raw mouse input, which is an essential feature of all PC FPS games.
The only way to create a balance would be to impose input limits on mice and to use heavy aim assist for controllers, which would drive everyone away from the game. I think the game will come with input restrictions anyways simply because heavies turning around in 1/30 of a second should basically never be a thing. Also a lot of PS4 games you can just plug a mouse and keyboard into anyways.
Here's where so much of Dust is just wrong and counter to CCP's own established rules. Heavies turning in 1/30 of a second should never be. Heavies jumping should never be. In EvE, the heavier the ship, the longer it takes to turn, the slower it accelerates and the slower it flies, in short, the longer it takes to do everything. By creating a game where all this ridiculous stuff with heavies happens, CCP violates some of its own very basic tenets.
Let's hope when the new game arrives, these things will be fixed. It's a possibility that as they knew the game was ending, they just threw a few things like that into it just to see what it would do, without any real intent to continue with it in the next version. I would like to think that's the case, anyway. |
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.02.10 23:32:00 -
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Bump for Tinfoil
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.10 23:44:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it.
Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal.
Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO.
True the PS4 is basically a computer but how far does CCP want to go with their next FPS? Will the PS4 be able to play the game that CCP wants. It would be good if the PS4 could and if the game was what they've envisioned at the same time. (well maybe almost envisioned)
CCP needs to show the requirements of the game once it's ready for the public for anyone here to know. So right now we don't know if it'll be on the PS4 at all till we saw how far they've gone with their new FPS.
Why did so many fools give CCP $$$ ?
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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
505
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Posted - 2016.02.10 23:54:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it.
Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal.
Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO. True the PS4 is basically a computer but how far does CCP want to go with their next FPS? Will the PS4 be able to play the game that CCP wants. It would be good if the PS4 could and if the game was what they've envisioned at the same time. (well maybe almost envisioned) CCP needs to show the requirements of the game once it's ready for the public for anyone here to know. So right now we don't know if it'll be on the PS4 at all till we saw how far they've gone with their new FPS.
Not to mention there's the fundamental problem of putting gamepad users up against M/KB users in the same FPS. I really don't think it's possible but I'd love to be proved wrong.
With that in mind I think some sort of Phoenix lite would work on console, maybe with all the features of the PC game except for District ownership and the New Eden link. I know a lot of people would argue that would be taking away too much, but my hope is that Phoenix will be an awesome shooter in its own right that is complemented by the One Universe: One War concept rather than relying on it.
Something is killing new player retention.
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2016.02.21 08:35:00 -
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*[/url]]Tinfoil Intensifies*
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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4lbert Wesker
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
630
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Posted - 2016.02.21 18:55:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it.
Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal.
Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO.
So, can you ask Robert Space Industries why they won't release console version of Star Citizen?
That's right, consoles are...wait for it...
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WESKER S.T.A.R.S. is not my corporation!
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lamo guys
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2016.02.21 22:13:00 -
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Only way it will happen if the next game is crazy popular. Who knows when it will be released on PC if ever. But if and I say if it would go to Sony again it would not be linked to eve in any way.
Don't blink it will be over quick
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2016.02.22 00:02:00 -
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lamo guys wrote:Only way it will happen if the next game is crazy popular. Who knows when it will be released on PC if ever. But if and I say if it would go to Sony again it would not be linked to eve in any way.
I think the whole Eve link thing really was sort of a cause for Dust 514's death.
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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lamo guys
Corrosive Synergy
270
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Posted - 2016.02.22 01:17:00 -
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You very well could be right, just for a reason to call it quits. But only time will tell. Cause the whole eve link never really showed its presence anyways. I guess we shall see what fan fest has to offer.
Don't blink it will be over quick
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2016.02.22 01:23:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:lamo guys wrote:Only way it will happen if the next game is crazy popular. Who knows when it will be released on PC if ever. But if and I say if it would go to Sony again it would not be linked to eve in any way. I think the whole Eve link thing really was sort of a cause for Dust 514's death.
In a way you are correct.
CCP always worrying about "future mechanics" and what effect they would have on Eve if a connection were made was essentially what stagnated development all the way up until FF 14. If you go back to the video of the round table with Rattati at FF you can see him reference this. This was also referenced by many other devs in many other places and times.
It is a bit crazy because AUR destroyed the ability to have an Eve link while the thought of an Eve link significantly messed up progress on the game. |
deo volente2
SVER True Blood
RUST415
35
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Posted - 2016.02.29 21:11:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:The PS4 is just a PC with uniform specs across the board. That means to bring a PC game over to PS4 its just needs to have a new control scheme / UI built around the controller and around the specific hardware inside the PS4.
If you look at War Thunder on PS4 it still has the mouse show up from time to time because they literally just copied the PC version over and tweaked the control scheme.
Does this mean CCP:FPS2 will come to PS4? Not in the slightest. CCP has proven time and time again that their ability to make even the simplest decisions is minimal.
Honestly, I will be surprised if we even see a new FPS hit the market. WoD was in development for 10 years and fell apart because of CCP shifting people back and forth from it to Eve. Now they seem very heavily focused on VR and we have already seen them shift resources around giving VR projects priority over other projects. This is just poor management and nothing at CCP has changed. Their obsession with VR will be their undoing. VR is a gimmick that won't last, because the consumer community can't afford it.
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