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Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.02.07 23:58:00 - [1] - Quote I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it. Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal. Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO. Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Llamastar Kylo's Fist 138	Posted - 2016.02.08 00:01:00 - [2] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it. Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal. Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO. You should really consult Google before you talk...
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.02.08 00:05:00 - [3] - Quote Llamastar wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it. Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal. Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO. You should really consult Google before you talk... I'm not saying that there's no money to be made PC wise, just take a look at all the other PC brands making consoles and moving their products to console. Steam Link, Google's VR... Kind of.. Ect. Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 581	Posted - 2016.02.08 00:17:00 - [4] - Quote The PS4 is just a PC with uniform specs across the board. That means to bring a PC game over to PS4 its just needs to have a new control scheme / UI built around the controller and around the specific hardware inside the PS4. If you look at War Thunder on PS4 it still has the mouse show up from time to time because they literally just copied the PC version over and tweaked the control scheme. Does this mean CCP:FPS2 will come to PS4? Not in the slightest. CCP has proven time and time again that their ability to make even the simplest decisions is minimal. Honestly, I will be surprised if we even see a new FPS hit the market. WoD was in development for 10 years and fell apart because of CCP shifting people back and forth from it to Eve. Now they seem very heavily focused on VR and we have already seen them shift resources around giving VR projects priority over other projects. This is just poor management and nothing at CCP has changed.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2	Posted - 2016.02.08 02:37:00 - [5] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: The PS4 is just a PC with uniform specs across the board. That means to bring a PC game over to PS4 its just needs to have a new control scheme / UI built around the controller and around the specific hardware inside the PS4. If you look at War Thunder on PS4 it still has the mouse show up from time to time because they literally just copied the PC version over and tweaked the control scheme. Does this mean CCP:FPS2 will come to PS4? Not in the slightest. CCP has proven time and time again that their ability to make even the simplest decisions is minimal. Honestly, I will be surprised if we even see a new FPS hit the market. WoD was in development for 10 years and fell apart because of CCP shifting people back and forth from it to Eve. Now they seem very heavily focused on VR and we have already seen them shift resources around giving VR projects priority over other projects. This is just poor management and nothing at CCP has changed. The PS4 is just a old PC, with uniform specs and a closed OS. Also... "just copy the PC version" is a funny way to describe a port. It's a little bit more costly and complicated than that. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.02.08 02:47:00 - [6] - Quote The issue is still control method. It is objectively impossible to have balanced gameplay between PC and PS4. No matter how good a player using a controller may claim to be, they will be at a massive disadvantage up against raw mouse input, which is an essential feature of all PC FPS games. The only way to create a balance would be to impose input limits on mice and to use heavy aim assist for controllers, which would drive everyone away from the game. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2016.02.08 03:00:00 - [7] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: The issue is still control method. It is objectively impossible to have balanced gameplay between PC and PS4. No matter how good a player using a controller may claim to be, they will be at a massive disadvantage up against raw mouse input, which is an essential feature of all PC FPS games. The only way to create a balance would be to impose input limits on mice and to use heavy aim assist for controllers, which would drive everyone away from the game. Agree on that. But still, I firmly believe that there's a "golden spot" in Aim Assist sensitivity and all the other tweaks (reticle magnetism, bullet magnetism etc) that would allow console players to be on par without being overpowered. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.02.08 03:13:00 - [8] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: The issue is still control method. It is objectively impossible to have balanced gameplay between PC and PS4. No matter how good a player using a controller may claim to be, they will be at a massive disadvantage up against raw mouse input, which is an essential feature of all PC FPS games. The only way to create a balance would be to impose input limits on mice and to use heavy aim assist for controllers, which would drive everyone away from the game. Agree on that. But still, I firmly believe that there's a "golden spot" in Aim Assist sensitivity and all the other tweaks (reticle magnetism, bullet magnetism etc) that would allow console players to be on par without being overpowered. The fact is that trying at all would be met with scorn from both PC and Console players who would then shun the game entirely. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2016.02.08 03:14:00 - [9] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: The issue is still control method. It is objectively impossible to have balanced gameplay between PC and PS4. No matter how good a player using a controller may claim to be, they will be at a massive disadvantage up against raw mouse input, which is an essential feature of all PC FPS games. The only way to create a balance would be to impose input limits on mice and to use heavy aim assist for controllers, which would drive everyone away from the game. Agree on that. But still, I firmly believe that there's a "golden spot" in Aim Assist sensitivity and all the other tweaks (reticle magnetism, bullet magnetism etc) that would allow console players to be on par without being overpowered. We were pretty much there during chromosome. Hit detection was just terrible. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Thaddeus Reynolds Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 714	Posted - 2016.02.08 03:14:00 - [10] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: The issue is still control method. It is objectively impossible to have balanced gameplay between PC and PS4. No matter how good a player using a controller may claim to be, they will be at a massive disadvantage up against raw mouse input, which is an essential feature of all PC FPS games. The only way to create a balance would be to impose input limits on mice and to use heavy aim assist for controllers, which would drive everyone away from the game. Another option would be to allow full KB/M support on the console...while not ideal from most console player's perspective, it does provide a level playing field, as both can make use of commonly available peripherals (with KB/M being cheaper than the Proprietary controller solutions). Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. #PortDust514 ...Preferably to both PS4 and PC

Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 408	Posted - 2016.02.08 11:00:00 - [11] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it. Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal. Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO. A big problem would be the PSN. On PC, there's no need for a PSN account, just your New Eden account. On PS4, you would also need a PSN account which may well require a separate New Eden account. The two will likely not be interchangeable.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 408	Posted - 2016.02.08 11:02:00 - [12] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: The PS4 is just a PC with uniform specs across the board. That means to bring a PC game over to PS4 its just needs to have a new control scheme / UI built around the controller and around the specific hardware inside the PS4. If you look at War Thunder on PS4 it still has the mouse show up from time to time because they literally just copied the PC version over and tweaked the control scheme. Does this mean CCP:FPS2 will come to PS4? Not in the slightest. CCP has proven time and time again that their ability to make even the simplest decisions is minimal. Honestly, I will be surprised if we even see a new FPS hit the market. WoD was in development for 10 years and fell apart because of CCP shifting people back and forth from it to Eve. Now they seem very heavily focused on VR and we have already seen them shift resources around giving VR projects priority over other projects. This is just poor management and nothing at CCP has changed. Their obsession with VR will be their undoing. VR is a gimmick that won't last, because the consumer community can't afford it.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3	Posted - 2016.02.08 12:12:00 - [13] - Quote Yeh everyone said that about personal computers....then mobile phones...then the internet... I am among the 1st of my kind, and i will never forget. no empire lasts forever and i have all the time in the world.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 586	Posted - 2016.02.08 12:33:00 - [14] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Their obsession with VR will be their undoing. VR is a gimmick that won't last, because the consumer community can't afford it. VR has incredible potential outside of the gaming industry and will do some great stuff. For gaming it is hard to say where it will go but I feel like it will not ever be more than niche even as the price point comes down.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3	Posted - 2016.02.08 12:45:00 - [15] - Quote Well it's supposedly being done on the UE4 engine, which makes it much easier for cross platform publishing. That said, you'll probably find the PS4 isn't actually around by phoniex is actually released. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 2	Posted - 2016.02.08 12:53:00 - [16] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it. Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal. Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO. Hey man, World of Tanks is on PS4 and XBONE just so more people can play it and pay the developers, it's staying on PC forever, just like War Thunder. #HYPE for EVE: Phoenix May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr. 2000 likes yay :D
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 7	Posted - 2016.02.08 16:11:00 - [17] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it. Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal. Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO. If it is successful and profitable on the PC, then the chance of a port to PS4 goes way up. You can be certain that a port will not go beyond the "would be nice" conversation around the water cooler until they see how it does no PC. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
deo volente2 SVER True Blood RUST415 32	Posted - 2016.02.08 16:30:00 - [18] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it. Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal. Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO. have you ever looked at what EVE players said about dust players, consoles are not welcome in EVE, never have never will be welcome it's quiete simply elitest behaviour on their part, which speaks volumes about your average pc gamer too busy playing
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 610	Posted - 2016.02.08 16:47:00 - [19] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: The issue is still control method. It is objectively impossible to have balanced gameplay between PC and PS4. No matter how good a player using a controller may claim to be, they will be at a massive disadvantage up against raw mouse input, which is an essential feature of all PC FPS games. The only way to create a balance would be to impose input limits on mice and to use heavy aim assist for controllers, which would drive everyone away from the game. I think the game will come with input restrictions anyways simply because heavies turning around in 1/30 of a second should basically never be a thing. Also a lot of PS4 games you can just plug a mouse and keyboard into anyways. Farewell DUST
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 410	Posted - 2016.02.08 21:11:00 - [20] - Quote Murder Medic wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: The issue is still control method. It is objectively impossible to have balanced gameplay between PC and PS4. No matter how good a player using a controller may claim to be, they will be at a massive disadvantage up against raw mouse input, which is an essential feature of all PC FPS games. The only way to create a balance would be to impose input limits on mice and to use heavy aim assist for controllers, which would drive everyone away from the game. I think the game will come with input restrictions anyways simply because heavies turning around in 1/30 of a second should basically never be a thing. Also a lot of PS4 games you can just plug a mouse and keyboard into anyways. Here's where so much of Dust is just wrong and counter to CCP's own established rules. Heavies turning in 1/30 of a second should never be. Heavies jumping should never be. In EvE, the heavier the ship, the longer it takes to turn, the slower it accelerates and the slower it flies, in short, the longer it takes to do everything. By creating a game where all this ridiculous stuff with heavies happens, CCP violates some of its own very basic tenets. Let's hope when the new game arrives, these things will be fixed. It's a possibility that as they knew the game was ending, they just threw a few things like that into it just to see what it would do, without any real intent to continue with it in the next version. I would like to think that's the case, anyway.

Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.02.10 23:32:00 - [21] - Quote Bump for Tinfoil Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.02.10 23:44:00 - [22] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it. Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal. Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO. True the PS4 is basically a computer but how far does CCP want to go with their next FPS? Will the PS4 be able to play the game that CCP wants. It would be good if the PS4 could and if the game was what they've envisioned at the same time. (well maybe almost envisioned) CCP needs to show the requirements of the game once it's ready for the public for anyone here to know. So right now we don't know if it'll be on the PS4 at all till we saw how far they've gone with their new FPS. Why did so many fools give CCP $$$ ?
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 505	Posted - 2016.02.10 23:54:00 - [23] - Quote da GAND wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it. Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal. Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO. True the PS4 is basically a computer but how far does CCP want to go with their next FPS? Will the PS4 be able to play the game that CCP wants. It would be good if the PS4 could and if the game was what they've envisioned at the same time. (well maybe almost envisioned) CCP needs to show the requirements of the game once it's ready for the public for anyone here to know. So right now we don't know if it'll be on the PS4 at all till we saw how far they've gone with their new FPS. Not to mention there's the fundamental problem of putting gamepad users up against M/KB users in the same FPS. I really don't think it's possible but I'd love to be proved wrong. With that in mind I think some sort of Phoenix lite would work on console, maybe with all the features of the PC game except for District ownership and the New Eden link. I know a lot of people would argue that would be taking away too much, but my hope is that Phoenix will be an awesome shooter in its own right that is complemented by the One Universe: One War concept rather than relying on it. Something is killing new player retention.
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.02.21 08:35:00 - [24] - Quote [/url]]Tinfoil Intensifies Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
4lbert Wesker Intara Direct Action Caldari State 630	Posted - 2016.02.21 18:55:00 - [25] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: I have a strong feeling that whatever they're working on for PC. (God knows why) They're will be a PS4 version out in the SoonGäó future. The PS4 is basically a PC anyways, it can Run a PC OS and you could even slap an emulator on it. Why waste money on a PC IMO. All PC titles eventuale move; Diablo, Warframe, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Portal. Why? More money to be made, and a better community IMO. So, can you ask Robert Space Industries why they won't release console version of Star Citizen? That's right, consoles are...wait for it... WEAK WEAK WEAK PATHETIC WEAK WEAK WEAK USELESS WEAK WEAK WEAK LIMITED WEAK WEAK WEAK WESKER S.T.A.R.S. is not my corporation!
lamo guys Corrosive Synergy 268	Posted - 2016.02.21 22:13:00 - [26] - Quote Only way it will happen if the next game is crazy popular. Who knows when it will be released on PC if ever. But if and I say if it would go to Sony again it would not be linked to eve in any way. Don't blink it will be over quick
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.02.22 00:02:00 - [27] - Quote lamo guys wrote: Only way it will happen if the next game is crazy popular. Who knows when it will be released on PC if ever. But if and I say if it would go to Sony again it would not be linked to eve in any way. I think the whole Eve link thing really was sort of a cause for Dust 514's death. Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
lamo guys Corrosive Synergy 270	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:17:00 - [28] - Quote You very well could be right, just for a reason to call it quits. But only time will tell. Cause the whole eve link never really showed its presence anyways. I guess we shall see what fan fest has to offer. Don't blink it will be over quick
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 642	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:23:00 - [29] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: lamo guys wrote: Only way it will happen if the next game is crazy popular. Who knows when it will be released on PC if ever. But if and I say if it would go to Sony again it would not be linked to eve in any way. I think the whole Eve link thing really was sort of a cause for Dust 514's death. In a way you are correct. CCP always worrying about "future mechanics" and what effect they would have on Eve if a connection were made was essentially what stagnated development all the way up until FF 14. If you go back to the video of the round table with Rattati at FF you can see him reference this. This was also referenced by many other devs in many other places and times. It is a bit crazy because AUR destroyed the ability to have an Eve link while the thought of an Eve link significantly messed up progress on the game.
deo volente2 SVER True Blood RUST415 35	Posted - 2016.02.29 21:11:00 - [30] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: The PS4 is just a PC with uniform specs across the board. That means to bring a PC game over to PS4 its just needs to have a new control scheme / UI built around the controller and around the specific hardware inside the PS4. If you look at War Thunder on PS4 it still has the mouse show up from time to time because they literally just copied the PC version over and tweaked the control scheme. Does this mean CCP:FPS2 will come to PS4? Not in the slightest. CCP has proven time and time again that their ability to make even the simplest decisions is minimal. Honestly, I will be surprised if we even see a new FPS hit the market. WoD was in development for 10 years and fell apart because of CCP shifting people back and forth from it to Eve. Now they seem very heavily focused on VR and we have already seen them shift resources around giving VR projects priority over other projects. This is just poor management and nothing at CCP has changed. Their obsession with VR will be their undoing. VR is a gimmick that won't last, because the consumer community can't afford it. ^'A MU%HA F%*U%K@N$ 'MEN^ never a truer statement posted too busy playing

Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 602	Posted - 2016.02.29 22:48:00 - [31] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: lamo guys wrote: Only way it will happen if the next game is crazy popular. Who knows when it will be released on PC if ever. But if and I say if it would go to Sony again it would not be linked to eve in any way. I think the whole Eve link thing really was sort of a cause for Dust 514's death. In a way you are correct. CCP always worrying about "future mechanics" and what effect they would have on Eve if a connection were made was essentially what stagnated development all the way up until FF 14. If you go back to the video of the round table with Rattati at FF you can see him reference this. This was also referenced by many other devs in many other places and times. It is a bit crazy because AUR destroyed the ability to have an Eve link while the thought of an Eve link significantly messed up progress on the game. The idea of a Dust WITHOUT a link to EvE is just ridiculous. Everything CCP does exists in the EvE universe, it's a basic tenet of CCP games. Everything runs on the Tranquility server for a start, so NOT having an EvE link is kind of impossible. The true problem with Dust is PSN and the PS3.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 674	Posted - 2016.02.29 23:31:00 - [32] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: lamo guys wrote: Only way it will happen if the next game is crazy popular. Who knows when it will be released on PC if ever. But if and I say if it would go to Sony again it would not be linked to eve in any way. I think the whole Eve link thing really was sort of a cause for Dust 514's death. In a way you are correct. CCP always worrying about "future mechanics" and what effect they would have on Eve if a connection were made was essentially what stagnated development all the way up until FF 14. If you go back to the video of the round table with Rattati at FF you can see him reference this. This was also referenced by many other devs in many other places and times. It is a bit crazy because AUR destroyed the ability to have an Eve link while the thought of an Eve link significantly messed up progress on the game. The idea of a Dust WITHOUT a link to EvE is just ridiculous. Everything CCP does exists in the EvE universe, it's a basic tenet of CCP games. Everything runs on the Tranquility server for a start, so NOT having an EvE link is kind of impossible. The true problem with Dust is PSN and the PS3. Dust is gone. No one knows if the "new game" will be on TQ. (My guess is no but CCP does not learn too fast) Valkyrie is expressly separated from Eve. Oh and PSN was never an issue. It just acted as a login that passed through a user id and an authorization token no different than logging in on a webpage or even in the Eve launcher. The PS3 is debatable but I will say that many other companies including smaller companies than CCP were able to fit FAR more content and functionality on to the PS3 than CCP did.
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1	Posted - 2016.02.29 23:45:00 - [33] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: So, can you ask [censored] why they won't release console version of [censored]? No, i cant. I do not want to be drowned in [censored] and [censored] to [censored]. Please support fair play!
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1	Posted - 2016.02.29 23:46:00 - [34] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: lamo guys wrote: Only way it will happen if the next game is crazy popular. Who knows when it will be released on PC if ever. But if and I say if it would go to Sony again it would not be linked to eve in any way. I think the whole Eve link thing really was sort of a cause for Dust 514's death. In a way you are correct. CCP always worrying about "future mechanics" and what effect they would have on Eve if a connection were made was essentially what stagnated development all the way up until FF 14. If you go back to the video of the round table with Rattati at FF you can see him reference this. This was also referenced by many other devs in many other places and times. It is a bit crazy because AUR destroyed the ability to have an Eve link while the thought of an Eve link significantly messed up progress on the game. The idea of a Dust WITHOUT a link to EvE is just ridiculous. Everything CCP does exists in the EvE universe, it's a basic tenet of CCP games. Everything runs on the Tranquility server for a start, so NOT having an EvE link is kind of impossible. The true problem with Dust is PSN and the PS3. Dust is gone. No one knows if the "new game" will be on TQ. (My guess is no but CCP does not learn too fast) Valkyrie is expressly separated from Eve. Oh and PSN was never an issue. It just acted as a login that passed through a user id and an authorization token no different than logging in on a webpage or even in the Eve launcher. The PS3 is debatable but I will say that many other companies including smaller companies than CCP were able to fit FAR more content and functionality on to the PS3 than CCP did. So much this The Eve link between both games is really minimal already. We share the "world" and are allowed to get a few orbitals bit that is it. As for the Ps3 part, DUST appears and acts like the early PS3 games. This is literally their first game on console so it was expected to run poorly. If they had experienced members using this type of architecture we would be focusing on the real problem which was management. AmarrFTW "The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... " Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 603	Posted - 2016.03.02 03:03:00 - [35] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Dust is gone. No one knows if the "new game" will be on TQ. (My guess is no but CCP does not learn too fast) Valkyrie is expressly separated from Eve. Oh and PSN was never an issue. It just acted as a login that passed through a user id and an authorization token no different than logging in on a webpage or even in the Eve launcher. The PS3 is debatable but I will say that many other companies including smaller companies than CCP were able to fit FAR more content and functionality on to the PS3 than CCP did. So much this The Eve link between both games is really minimal already. We share the "world" and are allowed to get a few orbitals bit that is it. As for the Ps3 part, DUST appears and acts like the early PS3 games. This is literally their first game on console so it was expected to run poorly. If they had experienced members using this type of architecture we would be focusing on the real problem which was management. The reason the link between Dust and EvE is minimal is by accident not by design. It was INTENDED from the outset to be highly linked, even integrated, with the concept of Walking In Stations which was a dismal failure. Yes, the new game is very likely to be running on TQ, and I do believe that there is still a link with Valkyrie, or at least that's the way it has been presented in the past - something like being able to actually fly the fighters that are launched from carriers. The links are there, at least in the design of these games. Whether they actually work is up to CCP.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 684	Posted - 2016.03.02 17:20:00 - [36] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: So much this The Eve link between both games is really minimal already. We share the "world" and are allowed to get a few orbitals bit that is it. As for the Ps3 part, DUST appears and acts like the early PS3 games. This is literally their first game on console so it was expected to run poorly. If they had experienced members using this type of architecture we would be focusing on the real problem which was management. I think saying its their first console game so it was expected to be bad is a bit of a cop out. They knew they wanted to make a console game and had unlimited opportunity to at minimum hire a couple of people that knew the PS3 architecture and the UE3 well to at least make it so they were not operating it what seemed like a guess and check infrastructure. If google were to hire someone to over see the search algorithms that barely even knew what a search algorithm is and he tanked it would the users and the share holders say it is fine because he did not know? I have to believe they would say what the hell google why would you not hire the the right person for the job. At the time that CCP started Dust the PS3 had been around for quite some time and there was a huge number of developers out there that had worked with the PS3 for most of its life cycle. If CCP really could not find a few of those people to properly over see the programming and design of a PS3 game that were willing to come work for them then I guess we are all sadly mistaken about CCP as a whole. Along with not building a proper team they also decided to use fill ins from the Eve team to handle larger parts of the game.
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.03.03 00:03:00 - [37] - Quote Honestly I think it would be a bad idea. Getting into another contract with Sony would be a bad move. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1	Posted - 2016.03.03 00:19:00 - [38] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Honestly I think it would be a bad idea. Getting into another contract with Sony would be a bad move. ccp alrdy have another contract w sony Valkyrie Please support fair play!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2016.03.03 00:57:00 - [39] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Dust is gone. No one knows if the "new game" will be on TQ. (My guess is no but CCP does not learn too fast) Valkyrie is expressly separated from Eve. Oh and PSN was never an issue. It just acted as a login that passed through a user id and an authorization token no different than logging in on a webpage or even in the Eve launcher. The PS3 is debatable but I will say that many other companies including smaller companies than CCP were able to fit FAR more content and functionality on to the PS3 than CCP did. Actually, I can bet a lot of my Eve Online ISK that the New Eden FPS for PC will be on Tranquility on the grounds that our character data is strictly stored in that particular server with maybe backups stored in an isolated server for redundancy. Also, if you go to www.eveonline.com while still logged in to www.dust514.com you will likely run into a problem where you can't log in to your Eve Online account on that website because you're signed in to your Dust account on another website. This is the message I get on my account management page of Eve. Quote: Please note: You do not have access to this part of EVE Account Management since you are logged in as a Dust514. This is all hinting that we might see some transfer of our name to the new game and possibly operating in the TQ server. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1	Posted - 2016.03.03 01:07:00 - [40] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Forever ETC wrote: So much this The Eve link between both games is really minimal already. We share the "world" and are allowed to get a few orbitals bit that is it. As for the Ps3 part, DUST appears and acts like the early PS3 games. This is literally their first game on console so it was expected to run poorly. If they had experienced members using this type of architecture we would be focusing on the real problem which was management. I think saying its their first console game so it was expected to be bad is a bit of a cop out. They knew they wanted to make a console game and had unlimited opportunity to at minimum hire a couple of people that knew the PS3 architecture and the UE3 well to at least make it so they were not operating it what seemed like a guess and check infrastructure. If google were to hire someone to over see the search algorithms that barely even knew what a search algorithm is and he tanked it would the users and the share holders say it is fine because he did not know? I have to believe they would say what the hell google why would you not hire the the right person for the job. At the time that CCP started Dust the PS3 had been around for quite some time and there was a huge number of developers out there that had worked with the PS3 for most of its life cycle. If CCP really could not find a few of those people to properly over see the programming and design of a PS3 game that were willing to come work for them then I guess we are all sadly mistaken about CCP as a whole. Along with not building a proper team they also decided to use fill ins from the Eve team to handle larger parts of the game. That falls again with the management, they tried the bring in guys who only had worked on EVE to try to make an FPS then switched them in and out hoping to find some sort of combo of workers. If they had consulted or hired developers from Sony or an experienced development team the story would have been very different. Hell I remember hearing some players saying "DUST ruined consoles for me" like seriously this is the best example of what happens to a game that no one did their homework on, not even close to what the average console game should play/perform. It's embarrassing that they tried to achieve something so grand with graph paper and crayons. Sometimes it's better to hire someone else than do it yourself. AmarrFTW "The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... " Not For Sale- Sanders 2016

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2016.03.03 01:17:00 - [41] - Quote By the way, to further intensify the tin foil hattery, has anyone here noticed that the "FREE STUFF" thread that was stickied long ago in the General Discussion section is now gone? Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 697	Posted - 2016.03.03 01:27:00 - [42] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: By the way, to further intensify the tin foil hattery, has anyone here noticed that the "FREE STUFF" thread that was stickied long ago in the General Discussion section is now gone? Holy crap that was just removed in the last couple of days. I think it may have been because OP changed the title to "free stuff - RIP dust" or something like that tho. Not exactly a good title to have as a sticky.
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.03.03 20:58:00 - [43] - Quote Fear the foil. Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn


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