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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2016.01.28 09:17:00 -
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I was there.
Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper.
Embrace your destiny.
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Zaria Min Deir
CASSETTE 514
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Posted - 2016.01.28 09:18:00 -
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And it was beautiful.
zariamindeir on Twitter&Gmail
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Random Gunz
The-Office
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Posted - 2016.01.28 09:18:00 -
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I was not there.
My lawyer will be in touch.
Curious what we're doing? Click DEV POSTS at the top of the page
Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2016.01.28 09:20:00 -
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I'm Twelve Years Old and What is This?
Sgt Kirk's Youtube Channel
Skype: jadkirk
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.28 09:21:00 -
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Broke the chain...
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Reign Omega
Eternal Beings
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2016.01.28 09:38:00 -
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Lol no CPM interactions for how long and here you come with this horseshxt, its like the US election.
Hell naw...to the naw naw naw...hell to the naw.
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Random Gunz
The-Office
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Posted - 2016.01.28 09:42:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Lol no CPM interactions for how long and here you come with this horseshxt, its like the US election.
I'll give you an interaction 
Curious what we're doing? Click DEV POSTS at the top of the page
Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2016.01.28 09:42:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Lol no CPM interactions for how long and here you come with this horseshxt, its like the US election.
Only with less caring about whether you approve or not.
Don't worry, one day we'll reveal the secrets of "fun" and "humor" to you in due time, once the patch is ready.
SOONGäó
Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper.
Embrace your destiny.
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2016.01.28 10:18:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Lol no CPM interactions for how long and here you come with this horseshxt, its like the US election. Only with less caring about whether you approve or not. Don't worry, one day we'll reveal the secrets of "fun" and "humor" to you in due time, once the patch is ready. SOONGäó
With CCP --> SoonGäó=NeverGäó
Sorry, I just can't believe it's taking so long to get one f***ing patch ready, it better be over 5 Gb big or I will be mega disappointed.
PORTDUST514TOPC
May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
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Ggg Hjjhk
BLUEBERRIES WITH AUTISM
RUST415
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Posted - 2016.01.28 10:20:00 -
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All I have heard is complaints about silence,
Then u guys put this on the boards = best Dust troll ever
Public APEX Punch
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jordy mack
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2016.01.28 11:02:00 -
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great thread, very informative, CPM has clearly been very busy working on this public address.
keep up the good work. o7
Less QQ more PewPew
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2016.01.28 11:04:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:great thread, very informative, CPM has clearly been very busy working on this public address.
keep up the good work. o7
Absolutely. Will keep up my same standards of posting and information dissemination.
Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper.
Embrace your destiny.
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Crimson ShieId
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2016.01.28 11:16:00 -
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I came hoping for free Quafe. I'm sorely disappointed. Even more so given the fact that the title is one fitting of an erotic Amarrian (Did I spell that right? >.> ) something something I forgot where I was going with this can I just have a bottle of Quafe and a few pieces of bacon so I can go to sleep happily?
What? Am I mad? Why do you ask?
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Regnier Feros
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
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Posted - 2016.01.28 11:45:00 -
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Gosh darn it.
Sooo breakin, do you have an quafe Am-H skin for sale :3
I LIKE PIE
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Radiant Pancake3
Celestial Phoenixes
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Posted - 2016.01.28 12:56:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Lol no CPM interactions for how long and here you come with this horseshxt, its like the US election. I'll give you an interaction
Touch my flatcock or I'll take your arm.
SoulPancake
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
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Posted - 2016.01.28 13:09:00 -
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CPM members are the fluffers of CCP p o r n. Clean off your faces, thats more than egg.
Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
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Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz
The-Office
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Posted - 2016.01.28 13:11:00 -
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pics or it didnt happen  |
Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
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Posted - 2016.01.28 14:19:00 -
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I wanna show off my Quafe gal heavy skin. Do again.
CEO of Federation Marines 62
"You look f* fabulous"-12Guage
Gallente Loyalist - Quafe - Gk.0
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
5
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Posted - 2016.01.28 16:58:00 -
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This thread is sad
/thread
Regressed to blueberry level =ƒÿ»
#PortPatience514
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
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Posted - 2016.01.28 17:32:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=225243&find=unread
CEO of Federation Marines 62
"You look f* fabulous"-12Guage
Gallente Loyalist - Quafe - Gk.0
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.28 17:36:00 -
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CPM is officially out of fucks.
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Medical Crash
Systematic Engineers Unlimited
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Posted - 2016.01.28 17:44:00 -
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I don't know why you guys waste your times being "CPMs". I guess you guys want some status, but honestly I wouldn't do any work for free. And y'all didn't become CPMs out of the goodness of your hearts either, don't try that one.
"But Medical,we do our jobs for the players!!!!". Lies.
My YouTube Channel
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Random Gunz
The-Office
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Posted - 2016.01.28 18:04:00 -
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Medical Crash wrote:"But Medical,we do our jobs for the players!!!!". Lies.
Dual Quafe Heavy Insertion benefits us all. You, me, everyone will be inserted.
And because we love the players so much, you get to go first.
Prepare yourself.
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Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.28 18:36:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:Medical Crash wrote:"But Medical,we do our jobs for the players!!!!". Lies. Dual Quafe Heavy Insertion benefits us all. You, me, everyone will be inserted. And because we love the players so much, you get to go first. Prepare yourself.
CCP can't ignore the Dual Quafes girth.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2016.01.28 22:46:00 -
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Medical Crash wrote:I don't know why you guys waste your times being "CPMs". I guess you guys want some status, but honestly I wouldn't do any work for free. And y'all didn't become CPMs out of the goodness of your hearts either, don't try that one.
"But Medical,we do our jobs for the players!!!!". Lies.
If by status, you mean "hated by the playerbase for not doing exactly what they want RIGHT NOW???"
Sure, then yeah. Status.
I do it for the Lulz, and because I've actually been able to address some things in the game that were causing problems, and they got fixed.
And the goodness of my heart has very little to do with anything I have been involved in.
But Dual Quafe Heavy Insertion was absolutely of benefit to the players. This initiative was pioneered by myself, Zaria and the magnanimous Cross Atu in order to increase player enjoyment of DUST 514.
Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper.
Embrace your destiny.
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Milita Mable
CYBER COBRAS ALT
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Posted - 2016.01.28 22:55:00 -
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What the hell are you guys talking about? |
TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
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Posted - 2016.01.28 22:57:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Lol no CPM interactions for how long and here you come with this horseshxt, its like the US election. Only with less caring about whether you approve or not. Don't worry, one day we'll reveal the secrets of "fun" and "humor" to you in due time, once the patch is ready. SOONGäó
=ƒÿ¦ |
TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
751
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Posted - 2016.01.28 23:00:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:I came hoping for free Quafe. I'm sorely disappointed. Even more so given the fact that the title is one fitting of an erotic Amarrian (Did I spell that right? >.> ) something something I forgot where I was going with this can I just have a bottle of Quafe and a few pieces of bacon so I can go to sleep happily?
All they'd have to say is Quafe vehicle skins for sale. That or Dev skins!!  |
Megaman Trigger
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.28 23:01:00 -
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Quafe Heavies. There was two of them, you say? In some sort of entry or insertion?
Can this be weaponised? Inquiring minds wish to know.
Purifier. First Class.
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Zaria Min Deir
CASSETTE 514
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Posted - 2016.01.28 23:15:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote: This initiative was pioneered by myself, Zaria and the magnanimous Cross Atu in order to increase player enjoyment of DUST 514.
Ru made it all happen though! You can't forget Ru!
zariamindeir on Twitter&Gmail
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.28 23:29:00 -
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I will translate from CPM-SPEEK to normal English for you all.
"You guys wanted us to be more vocal, but we've already said everything we can, so we are just going to be random as **** so you can't ***** about the CPM being silent anymore."
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.28 23:34:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:I will translate from CPM-SPEEK to normal English for you all.
"You guys wanted us to be more vocal, but we've already said everything we can, so we are just going to be random as **** so you can't ***** about the CPM being silent anymore."
Or maybe, what they are telling us is supposed to be an extended metaphor.
/tinfoil
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Milita Mable
CYBER COBRAS ALT
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Posted - 2016.01.29 01:27:00 -
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Being smug and spouting random turds about nothing is as helpful as POK crashing PC matches. |
DiGreatDestroyer
GRUPO DE ASALTO CHACAL
220
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Posted - 2016.01.29 03:52:00 -
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:,(
You were said to bring balance to the game, not leave it in darkness
You have betrayed us CPM
We wanted you to do a very simple thing, because we thought you would remember how it feels to be left in the dark.
Seems being with CCP makes you just like those blue tags.
To the community: We should just ignore these trolls, and just go with the current, and wait until CCP makes their announcement, so they can finally realize that no one cares anymore.
"SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A GD COOKIE"- Aeon Amadi
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.29 04:49:00 -
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DiGreatDestroyer wrote::,( You were said to bring balance to the game, not leave it in darknessYou have betrayed us CPM We wanted you to do a very simple thing, because we thought you would remember how it feels to be left in the dark. Seems being with CCP makes you just like those blue tags. To the community: We should just ignore these trolls, and just go with the current, and wait until CCP makes their announcement, so they can finally realize that no one cares anymore.
What part of NDA do you not understand?
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General Vahzz
PIanet Express
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Posted - 2016.01.29 05:49:00 -
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All i wish for, is a quafe forge bpo, and now with dual quafe heavy junk insertion; you can too! With updated quafe and supreme hint at heavy cake eating tournaments, this superb innovation by the lovely Ru, brings enjoyment to all you miserable fucks!
Now, with every encounter of the dual quafe heavy insertion mechanic, you get a wonderbroom for the lovely price of 200 AUR. The wonderbroom, another innovation by Ru, with an extra long handle so you can go **** yourself, and extra bristles so you can wipe away the shame!
Guaranteed enjoyment or a slap in the face.
You can bite my shiny metal ass.
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.29 06:01:00 -
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General Vahzz wrote:All i wish for, is a quafe forge bpo, and now with dual quafe heavy junk insertion; you can too! With updated quafe and supreme hint at heavy cake eating tournaments, this superb innovation by the lovely Ru, brings enjoyment to all you miserable fucks!
Now, with every encounter of the dual quafe heavy insertion mechanic, you get a wonderbroom for the lovely price of 200 AUR. The wonderbroom, another innovation by Ru, with an extra long handle so you can go **** yourself, and extra bristles so you can wipe away the shame!
Guaranteed enjoyment or a slap in the face.
Heh, I have the 'Quafe' Forge Gun.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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DiGreatDestroyer
GRUPO DE ASALTO CHACAL
220
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Posted - 2016.01.29 13:45:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:DiGreatDestroyer wrote::,( You were said to bring balance to the game, not leave it in darknessYou have betrayed us CPM We wanted you to do a very simple thing, because we thought you would remember how it feels to be left in the dark. Seems being with CCP makes you just like those blue tags. To the community: We should just ignore these trolls, and just go with the current, and wait until CCP makes their announcement, so they can finally realize that no one cares anymore. What part of NDA do you not understand? Community: CPM! Tell us what CCP is working on! CPM: Hey CCP, can we tell them what you're working on without you sending the lawers after us? CCP: No. That's basically how the conversation went. Are you saying you expect the CPM to break a legally binding agreement? I'm not entirely sure what you expected when they have the CPM gagged with the NDA. Like really, what do you expect?
I just wanted someone to give a little reassurance to this community, so it wouldnt die out.
Im not asking for them to say anything specific, just for them to give us their honest opinion.
Seems the NDA does not allow them to have one of those anymore
"SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A GD COOKIE"- Aeon Amadi
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
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Posted - 2016.01.29 14:27:00 -
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The CPM is there to take player feedback and discussion and present it to CCP in a coherent way. It's not their job to tell us what CCP are up to. It's nice, but the NDA makes it impossible. It's up to CCP to comunicate to us. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.29 14:46:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:The CPM is there to take player feedback and discussion and present it to CCP in a coherent way. It's not their job to tell us what CCP are up to. It's nice, but the NDA makes it impossible. It's up to CCP to comunicate to us.
That's the other point. It's not the CPMs role to be the voice of CCP. And as the CPM have said countless ******* times
"CCP is working on stuff. Be patient."
If that's not reassurance I'm not exactly sure what is. Christ.
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DiGreatDestroyer
GRUPO DE ASALTO CHACAL
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Posted - 2016.01.29 15:26:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:The CPM is there to take player feedback and discussion and present it to CCP in a coherent way. It's not their job to tell us what CCP are up to. It's nice, but the NDA makes it impossible. It's up to CCP to comunicate to us. That's the other point. It's not the CPMs role to be the voice of CCP. And as the CPM have said countless ******* times "CCP is working on stuff. Be patient." If that's not reassurance I'm not exactly sure what is. Christ. Hell we've had them on the Biomassed podcast countless times as well, where they have again, reiterated, CCP is working on stuff...be patient. But by all means, feel free to disregard everything they've alread y said over and over. This **** is just like real world politic, people always find some way to be upset regardless of what reps do. "Thanks CPM..."
Sadly Pokey, this is just like the real world.
"Not my job? Not gonna do it."
They could save this community, but they choose not to, because its not their job.
But by all means, just ignore me guys, and keep talking about your two pink fatmans shenanigans
"SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A GD COOKIE"- Aeon Amadi
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.29 15:48:00 -
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If you honestly think the CPM don't want to tell us everything they know, then you clearly don't know them nor have been listening to what they've been saying.
So yes, I will ignore what you're saying because you simple do not know what you're talking about.
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DiGreatDestroyer
GRUPO DE ASALTO CHACAL
221
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Posted - 2016.01.29 16:01:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:If you honestly think the CPM don't want to tell us everything they know, then you clearly don't know them nor have been listening to what they've been saying.
So yes, I will ignore what you're saying because you simple do not know what you're talking about.
Cross was the CEO of the first corp I entered in this game, so Id like to think I know him a little bit
Darth was the CEO of RG when I had to handle GAC relations with our alliance, so id like to think i know him too.
Obviuosly they arent allowed to reveal most of what they know, one would be plain stupid to think otherwise.
But that does not stop them from pushing the boundaries of what they are allowed to share to help keep the community afloat.
But just ignore me Pokey, ignore me as the stupid player I am.
But think about this: Im a pain in the ass because I care, and we are only 5 people bothering the CPM.
Take aside the guys you made the video with.
The rest of the community does not care anymore.
"SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A GD COOKIE"- Aeon Amadi
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.29 16:10:00 -
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OK. What exactly do you want them to say? And how does it differ from what they've already said?
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DiGreatDestroyer
GRUPO DE ASALTO CHACAL
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Posted - 2016.01.29 16:15:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:OK. What exactly do you want them to say? And how does it differ from what they've already said?
I want them pick one sentence. Thats all ive ever wanted.
"SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A GD COOKIE"- Aeon Amadi
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.29 16:20:00 -
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They've basically said A before. Not in the same exact words likely because that phrasing is pushing NDA, but the general meaning is there.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
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Posted - 2016.01.29 17:55:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:They've basically said A before. Not in the same exact words likely because that phrasing is pushing NDA, but the general meaning is there. On Biomassed a couple weeks ago Darth even said Rattati is quiet because he is extremely busy working on things. Even if play or don't play DUST right now, just pay attention to the forums and keep an eye out.
CPM is not at fault. But, CCPs lack of communication openly is disgusting, and the CPM openly accepting the NDA in this way is just seen as weak. Regardless of what is doing it has 0 need for the lack of comms. Its a public relations decision and IMHO a bad one. Im a paying customer and right now no one seems to be there to even answer questions.
I think what gets most of us is they treat this info like they are the NSA and we are wikileaks. Hell we are your customers let us in on the product. With most new games we are aware of the direction of the dev team a year away from release. PS3 came out in 06, this hardware has been around since 04, games going on 4 years. We are so deep into the life cycle of the product that who the hell cares??
And damn, lets not forget how many times this game has been destroyed by updates, hotfixes, nerfs, buffs etc that did not recieve community SCRUTINY. Where if we had been included, could have been avoided.
Ultimately as with real politics we dont TRUST the reps. Wy? Past CPMs.... The current 'myo meta' that they apparently approved. And IMO I dont believe there is a single CPM rep that can adequately understand and articulate the subtle in and outs of crafting a great shooter. Why? Because none of the current lot could perform in game. Sure sure I know, we got a logi, she should get it. Darth was a good pilot. But when your talking pure on the ground gungame, tactical cover shooter, they all fall short. Yes I know some do well in squads when they protostomp in pubs. But solo, gungame in the trenches, understands it, and can articulate that understanding ? Wheres that CPM?
Couple all that with being responsible for conveying the problem, purpose, and direction of this SHOOTER to a dev team that suffers many of the same flaws in their personal SHOOTER IQ and we have the distrust, anger, and cynicism you cant fathom.
Lastly let me be clear,I have absolutely nothing personal toward the dev or CPM. Just much love for DUST.
Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.29 17:57:00 -
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It's disgusting that the follow a legally binding agreement they signed? How dare they not violate a contract!
Again, CPM have said again and again that they constantly harass CCP to be more vocal or at least let them be more vocal. No dice.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
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Posted - 2016.01.29 18:05:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:It's disgusting that the follow a legally binding agreement they signed? How dare they not violate a contract!
Again, CPM have said again and again that they constantly harass CCP to be more vocal or at least let them be more vocal. No dice.
I feel and believe that. The disgusting part is aimed at whomever in CCP makes the decision, not those who have agreed to follow it.
Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.29 18:12:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:It's disgusting that the follow a legally binding agreement they signed? How dare they not violate a contract!
Again, CPM have said again and again that they constantly harass CCP to be more vocal or at least let them be more vocal. No dice. I feel and believe that. The disgusting part is aimed at whomever in CCP makes the decision, not those who have agreed to follow it.
Well we agree then. It's BS what CCP is doing. I just get irritated really quickly when people start attacking the CPM because they're displeased with the situation and take it out on the people who are not responsible, simple forced to go along with it.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
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Posted - 2016.01.29 18:17:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:It's disgusting that the follow a legally binding agreement they signed? How dare they not violate a contract!
Again, CPM have said again and again that they constantly harass CCP to be more vocal or at least let them be more vocal. No dice. I feel and believe that. The disgusting part is aimed at whomever in CCP makes the decision, not those who have agreed to follow it. Well we agree then. It's BS what CCP is doing. I just get irritated really quickly when people start attacking the CPM because they're displeased with the situation and take it out on the people who are not responsible, simple forced to go along with it.
Im a principle guy. We dont get elected. By now id have bucked that NDA and lost my position. But then they dont allow felons to be on the CPM.
Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.29 18:19:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:It's disgusting that the follow a legally binding agreement they signed? How dare they not violate a contract!
Again, CPM have said again and again that they constantly harass CCP to be more vocal or at least let them be more vocal. No dice. I feel and believe that. The disgusting part is aimed at whomever in CCP makes the decision, not those who have agreed to follow it. Well we agree then. It's BS what CCP is doing. I just get irritated really quickly when people start attacking the CPM because they're displeased with the situation and take it out on the people who are not responsible, simple forced to go along with it. Im a principle guy. We dont get elected. By now id have bucked that NDA and lost my position. But then they dont allow felons to be on the CPM.
Well I can't fault anyone for following the agreement they signed.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
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Posted - 2016.01.29 18:21:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:It's disgusting that the follow a legally binding agreement they signed? How dare they not violate a contract!
Again, CPM have said again and again that they constantly harass CCP to be more vocal or at least let them be more vocal. No dice. I feel and believe that. The disgusting part is aimed at whomever in CCP makes the decision, not those who have agreed to follow it. Well we agree then. It's BS what CCP is doing. I just get irritated really quickly when people start attacking the CPM because they're displeased with the situation and take it out on the people who are not responsible, simple forced to go along with it. Im a principle guy. We dont get elected. By now id have bucked that NDA and lost my position. But then they dont allow felons to be on the CPM. Well I can't fault anyone for following the agreement they signed.
Agreed, every tubs gotta stand on its own bottom.
Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
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Llamastar
Kylo's Fist
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Posted - 2016.01.29 19:19:00 -
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This is the most encouraging thread I've seen out of the CPM in the last ~time~. Personally I don't expect or desire for them to be the voice of CCP or to say anything about the progress behind the curtains.
What I do expect out of them is to be involved in the community with their own personal memes, opinions, clarifying questions, and cat gifs. That's not breaking NDA, and that's not being unethical in the position. It's doing two very important things:
- Helping keep morale afloat.
- Letting players know that their representatives are actively listening to and clarifying their feedback in order to perform THEIR STATED FUNCTION of disseminating and representing the "voice of the community" to CCP.
Tell me step A isn't part of the job all you want, this is the body politic and lately CPM's PR is pretty shite. Those hoping for future votes may want to take heed. |
RedBleach LeSanglant
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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A man cannot be the master of everything. Our lives are too short, and mortality is too limiting to allow us to master each and every craft or knowledge.
The talents of individuals fall in many different categories. The classic saying of "Those who can't do, teach" underscores the point - though it is not entirely true. Those with great gun game should be on the field. Those who understand how to use those skills to the greatest advantage of the team lead. Those with tactical understandings call the shots and make decisions even when the people on the ground - the ones with great gun game - may not see or understand the direction.
That direction may be to stay put and guard a point, even when all the action is elsewhere; because the person in charge knows that they can count on that skill to hold the point. Or maybe it is to lead a charge that will end in utter defeat because that is what needs to happen to distract the enemy and open another front for attack. Pawns or Knights, they all have their purpose - and that is to serve the master that wields them. For ill or good rarely does one person have max stats in all desired traits, but even then sometimes good gun game and huge knowledge base do intersect.
Those in the CPM were voted to their positions because of their understanding of many parts of the game, not just the meat grinder slaying bit, and that collectively their knowledge base was sufficient to represent most of the players of Dust514. In these positions what is needed is the right tool for the job, and here that tool needs and expanded understanding of the mechanics of the game combined with the interrelation of all the classes and activities... an awesomely powerful slayer that has the respect of the community and sufficient knowledge base to represent the community - as would be seen in forum posts - has yet to be found, or at least not around at the time of elections. Therefore, that single aspect is not shown.
But the CPM was put together none the less. Despite our frustrations that our "buddies" will not disclose anything - even secretly to true friend, because that is trust?... (sarcasm) - I trust them even more because of it. And you are right that TRUST is at play. Either one trusts or one does not; my reason for trust comes from years of forum posts and interactions. If trust in only given because of special treatment then the foundation will break under pressure or silence. But if it is based on history then we are fortunate that those in the CPM now have been very vocal about their support of the game for quite some time.
Certainly I see what is at stake. Even the ethics at play. One ethical dilemma I remember from one course was, "If you are a manager and know that your best friend is going to be fired that day how do you proceed in the relationship?" Do you stop your friend before he makes a large purchase? Do you tell him and risk your position a the company or allow him to sabotage current operations? This silence from CCP and the CPM on the future of the game is certainly not as serious or as difficult to live with. Games, like gambling, should only be played for enjoyment and not investment purposes (just like lottery tickets say). And though I have invested in this game blood, sweat, tears, cash, and time (oh so much time) I will have to use my Bound Optimism in the belief that the CPM is acting appropriately.
Then watch The Imitation Game - about a small group in WWII that knew all of the German communications and had to knowingly sacrifice thousands to ultimately win the war. Amazing movie.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.29 19:53:00 -
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Llamastar wrote:This is the most encouraging thread I've seen out of the CPM in the last ~time~. Personally I don't expect or desire for them to be the voice of CCP or to say anything about the progress behind the curtains.
What I do expect out of them is to be involved in the community with their own personal memes, opinions, clarifying questions, and cat gifs. That's not breaking NDA, and that's not being unethical in the position. It's doing two very important things:
- Helping keep morale afloat.
- Letting players know that their representatives are actively listening to and clarifying their feedback in order to perform THEIR STATED FUNCTION of disseminating and representing the "voice of the community" to CCP.
Tell me step A isn't part of the job all you want, this is the body politic and lately CPM's PR is pretty shite. Those hoping for future votes may want to take heed.
For what it's worth, I bounce a lot of my meme, image, and video ideas for the #PortDust514 movement off of several CPM members. They're certainly interested in that sort of stuff, they just lack the creative skills to make it happen in many cases.
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Regnier Feros
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
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What ever happen to the cpm feedback threads?
those were pretty neat.
I LIKE PIE
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
1
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Posted - 2016.01.29 21:42:00 -
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Pop a perc.
Let it flow through my body.
OooOOoOh OooOooOh.
Mack Daddy, Mack Daddy
Tyrant King, Opus Arcana
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DiGreatDestroyer
GRUPO DE ASALTO CHACAL
229
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Posted - 2016.01.29 22:59:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:It's disgusting that the follow a legally binding agreement they signed? How dare they not violate a contract!
Again, CPM have said again and again that they constantly harass CCP to be more vocal or at least let them be more vocal. No dice. I feel and believe that. The disgusting part is aimed at whomever in CCP makes the decision, not those who have agreed to follow it. Well we agree then. It's BS what CCP is doing. I just get irritated really quickly when people start attacking the CPM because they're displeased with the situation and take it out on the people who are not responsible, simple forced to go along with it.
They are the CPM the community deserves, but not the one we need right now.
So we-¦ll blame them. Because they can take it.
The CPM are the very the best we have. Anywhere. :)
Im sorry for hating on you guys 
#KeepDustInThePS3
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
19
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Posted - 2016.01.29 23:18:00 -
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1.3 is probably already locked in.
You can't just go add in last minute features when the patch has already been, say, sent to Sony for verification.
Ripley Riley:
> Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault:
> DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakka
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2016.01.29 23:25:00 -
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Everyone's frustration is perfectly reasonable...just don't hate the CPM too much, they're already frustrated enough knowing what's going on and knowing that CCP wont talk about it
It's times like these that I'm kinda glad ya'll failed at electing me to the CPM....twice.
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
19
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Posted - 2016.01.29 23:27:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Everyone's frustration is perfectly reasonable...just don't hate the CPM too much, they're already frustrated enough knowing what's going on and knowing that CCP wont talk about it It's times like these that I'm kinda glad ya'll failed at electing me to the CPM....twice.
Lies.
You know it's eating away inside, slowly gnawing at your Boundless Optimism.
Once CPM 3 elections come... You will run out of ammo.
Ripley Riley:
> Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault:
> DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakka
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2016.01.29 23:53:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Everyone's frustration is perfectly reasonable...just don't hate the CPM too much, they're already frustrated enough knowing what's going on and knowing that CCP wont talk about it It's times like these that I'm kinda glad ya'll failed at electing me to the CPM....twice. Lies. You know it's eating away inside, slowly gnawing at your Boundless Optimism. Once CPM 3 elections come... You will run out of ammo.
It's weird. I want to be on CPM 3 but I also like the freedom that comes with not being under NDA
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RedBleach LeSanglant
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
902
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Posted - 2016.01.30 02:33:00 -
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Just thinking about CCP and them not saying anything and how it would affect the internal workings of the company. I'm pondering on the business plans.
To announce a port or the end of the game publicly, before the memo reached Shanghai would be interesting. Disastrous, but interesting. But more than likely the Dust teams will be updated as to the games status before the public is aware. With and end date of 1 month to 6 months, depending on severance or internal transfer opportunities, we would see some of the known CCP EEs (employees) moving to other firms or begin posting in the forums of other CCP projects. 7 months and beyond there would be little rush as that is a significant amount of time to be able to set up transfers internally and prepare quieter exits - despite the NDA all former EEs would still be under.
Would CCP bring Dust to and end with a batch of fixes? A scheduled rollout of goals before support was ended? Or would it be immediate? - I would lean towards the scheduled rollout and a support schedule as the population dwindled. If it was to die.
but... IFF CCP is/will be working on the next FPS iteration in the EVE Universe
Then: Awesome.
A few factors that have me pondering about a delay for a port or new offering are:
Sony Contract
If Sony is the hang up and CCP wants to get out of the contract:
Sony Contract and Time?
Who knows how much the Sony contract has tied the hands of CCP in this deal. Maybe the contract opted for a support time line, like until 1/1/2017 and until then CCP can't compete with another offering (a standard non compete clause). If that is indeed a deal then even if there is a port in the works CCP couldn't announce it until the end of Dust514 Sony support as Sony makes money off of CCP making money... it is also possible that CCP is just locked in at a fixed price for a defined period of time; whether they profit or not (then profit = reason to port). Meaning that Time, and only Time is the determining factor.
or Sony Contract and Population/$?
Perhaps Dust must be allowed to die. There may be a population terminal level or a fund termination level, meaning that regardless of the timeline until either critically low level is hit there is no end to the Dust514 game and Sony will have the right to offer it until the termination of the PS3 PSN support.
or Non Compete with Sony?
With a non compete clause CCP couldn't announce or offer an FPS in the New Eden universe unless it was a whole new experience in which FPS was only part of it. There would be some legal talks for sure about definitions and similarities that would need to be addressed and subsequently the game would be advertised as something like a FPUniverse like a star citizen or something.
Ending the relationship.
There may be a way to get out of the contract if needed. Handing over the rights to the game (as is) in order to begin another project. Or even just offering dedicated support until the game dies while CCP works on a new one. Maybe the ending contract would be a port to the PS4 console and working out the bugs and kinks for a certain amount of time. (shrug shoulders) who knows?
Perhaps CCP will sell Dust as it did the Vampire game it was working on... and another company will do what CCP could not, or chose not to do.
Then Again...
Then again, Maybe the Sony Contract is nothing but beneficial to CCP. Those adopting this technology (ps3) at the end of its life cycle may keep Dust514 living on. But whether that is merely life support or not - we would have to see the #s.
Halo 2 went on for years until Microsoft set an end date for the servers. But it was worth it to introduce new players to the Halo universe by buying a cheap used game and then Microsoft watched as these new customers bought the 360 to keep up with the series. This may be that opportunity. - without the RROD
If it is still beneficial then we may see a port or a new FPS offering WHILE maintaining Dust514 on the PS3 for the late adopters. Business is to make a buck where you can and when you can, and if keeping a game on life support is profitable it will remain there. However, as the veteran playerbase falls off there must be another offering to capture that potential profit or that customer base will be lost forever... well at least there will be % of loss that cannot be recaptured over time - what that is would require #'s that we don't have. That % will taper and then plunge as it increases exponentially over a long enough period of time, and some people are already there.
In a world of 1 new COD's every year, and Halo's that continue to come out every 2 or 3 years, a game like this needs content injections and updates on a similar level - and at times it needs to be completely destroyed and rebuilt anew (replacing Legacy code with a new game). Everyone wants this.
It is in CCP's best interest to start anew. Fund the teams, build a better product, then build up the anticipation, share some info, - even just some teasers - as to what will be next.
The Phoenix will Rise. ... Just tell us when CCP
The Logi Code. Creator, Believer, Follower
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.30 02:54:00 -
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They should just start with remaking my EVE Phoenix trailer with a real art team 
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.30 03:48:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:They should just start with remaking my EVE Phoenix trailer with a real art team
For being player made though, that was darn good 3d art.
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RedBleach LeSanglant
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
905
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Posted - 2016.01.30 03:51:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:They should just start with remaking my EVE Phoenix trailer with a real art team For being player made though, that was darn good 3d art.
True Dat
The Logi Code. Quiet Ally to CPM2
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
12
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Posted - 2016.01.30 04:31:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:They should just start with remaking my EVE Phoenix trailer with a real art team For being player made though, that was darn good 3d art.
I can't complain.
Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper.
Embrace your destiny.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2016.01.30 04:44:00 -
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RedBleach LeSanglant wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:They should just start with remaking my EVE Phoenix trailer with a real art team For being player made though, that was darn good 3d art. True Dat
I learned sooo much on that project. Gotta up my game for the next, unless of course CCP beats me to the punch and releases the port.
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rayakalj9
Opus Arcana
69
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Posted - 2016.01.30 04:59:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Pop a perc.
Let it flow through my body.
OooOOoOh OooOooOh.
Mack Daddy, Mack Daddy
hello my king
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Random Gunz
The-Office
3
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DiGreatDestroyer wrote:They are the CPM the community deserves, but not the one we need right now. So we-¦ll blame them. Because they can take it. The CPM are the very the best we have. Anywhere. :) Im sorry for hating on you guys
I don't blame you at all for feeling disappointed. I do too.
But the light is coming... Can you feel it?
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Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
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rayakalj9
Opus Arcana
70
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Posted - 2016.01.30 16:50:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:DiGreatDestroyer wrote:They are the CPM the community deserves, but not the one we need right now. So we-¦ll blame them. Because they can take it. The CPM are the very the best we have. Anywhere. :) Im sorry for hating on you guys I don't blame you at all for feeling disappointed. I do too. But the light is coming... Can you feel it?
i thought your darth vader's evil twin
born jamaican
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Megaman Trigger
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.30 16:57:00 -
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rayakalj9 wrote:Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:DiGreatDestroyer wrote:They are the CPM the community deserves, but not the one we need right now. So we-¦ll blame them. Because they can take it. The CPM are the very the best we have. Anywhere. :) Im sorry for hating on you guys I don't blame you at all for feeling disappointed. I do too. But the light is coming... Can you feel it? i thought your darth vader's evil twin
No no, he's Darth Vader's younger brother, Myron!
Purifier. First Class.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.30 17:17:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:DiGreatDestroyer wrote:They are the CPM the community deserves, but not the one we need right now. So we-¦ll blame them. Because they can take it. The CPM are the very the best we have. Anywhere. :) Im sorry for hating on you guys I don't blame you at all for feeling disappointed. I do too. But the light is coming... Can you feel it?
And on that day, Rattati, bathed in a lense flare, finally spoke of the future.
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