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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.29 23:25:00 -
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Everyone's frustration is perfectly reasonable...just don't hate the CPM too much, they're already frustrated enough knowing what's going on and knowing that CCP wont talk about it
It's times like these that I'm kinda glad ya'll failed at electing me to the CPM....twice.
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2016.01.29 23:27:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Everyone's frustration is perfectly reasonable...just don't hate the CPM too much, they're already frustrated enough knowing what's going on and knowing that CCP wont talk about it It's times like these that I'm kinda glad ya'll failed at electing me to the CPM....twice. Lies. You know it's eating away inside, slowly gnawing at your Boundless Optimism. Once CPM 3 elections come... You will run out of ammo.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.29 23:53:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Everyone's frustration is perfectly reasonable...just don't hate the CPM too much, they're already frustrated enough knowing what's going on and knowing that CCP wont talk about it It's times like these that I'm kinda glad ya'll failed at electing me to the CPM....twice. Lies. You know it's eating away inside, slowly gnawing at your Boundless Optimism. Once CPM 3 elections come... You will run out of ammo.
It's weird. I want to be on CPM 3 but I also like the freedom that comes with not being under NDA
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RedBleach LeSanglant
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.30 02:33:00 -
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Just thinking about CCP and them not saying anything and how it would affect the internal workings of the company. I'm pondering on the business plans.
To announce a port or the end of the game publicly, before the memo reached Shanghai would be interesting. Disastrous, but interesting. But more than likely the Dust teams will be updated as to the games status before the public is aware. With and end date of 1 month to 6 months, depending on severance or internal transfer opportunities, we would see some of the known CCP EEs (employees) moving to other firms or begin posting in the forums of other CCP projects. 7 months and beyond there would be little rush as that is a significant amount of time to be able to set up transfers internally and prepare quieter exits - despite the NDA all former EEs would still be under.
Would CCP bring Dust to and end with a batch of fixes? A scheduled rollout of goals before support was ended? Or would it be immediate? - I would lean towards the scheduled rollout and a support schedule as the population dwindled. If it was to die.
but... IFF CCP is/will be working on the next FPS iteration in the EVE Universe
Then: Awesome.
A few factors that have me pondering about a delay for a port or new offering are:
Sony Contract
If Sony is the hang up and CCP wants to get out of the contract: Sony Contract and Time? Who knows how much the Sony contract has tied the hands of CCP in this deal. Maybe the contract opted for a support time line, like until 1/1/2017 and until then CCP can't compete with another offering (a standard non compete clause). If that is indeed a deal then even if there is a port in the works CCP couldn't announce it until the end of Dust514 Sony support as Sony makes money off of CCP making money... it is also possible that CCP is just locked in at a fixed price for a defined period of time; whether they profit or not (then profit = reason to port). Meaning that Time, and only Time is the determining factor.
or Sony Contract and Population/$? Perhaps Dust must be allowed to die. There may be a population terminal level or a fund termination level, meaning that regardless of the timeline until either critically low level is hit there is no end to the Dust514 game and Sony will have the right to offer it until the termination of the PS3 PSN support.
or Non Compete with Sony? With a non compete clause CCP couldn't announce or offer an FPS in the New Eden universe unless it was a whole new experience in which FPS was only part of it. There would be some legal talks for sure about definitions and similarities that would need to be addressed and subsequently the game would be advertised as something like a FPUniverse like a star citizen or something.
Ending the relationship. There may be a way to get out of the contract if needed. Handing over the rights to the game (as is) in order to begin another project. Or even just offering dedicated support until the game dies while CCP works on a new one. Maybe the ending contract would be a port to the PS4 console and working out the bugs and kinks for a certain amount of time. (shrug shoulders) who knows?
Perhaps CCP will sell Dust as it did the Vampire game it was working on... and another company will do what CCP could not, or chose not to do.
Then Again...
Then again, Maybe the Sony Contract is nothing but beneficial to CCP. Those adopting this technology (ps3) at the end of its life cycle may keep Dust514 living on. But whether that is merely life support or not - we would have to see the #s.
Halo 2 went on for years until Microsoft set an end date for the servers. But it was worth it to introduce new players to the Halo universe by buying a cheap used game and then Microsoft watched as these new customers bought the 360 to keep up with the series. This may be that opportunity. - without the RROD
If it is still beneficial then we may see a port or a new FPS offering WHILE maintaining Dust514 on the PS3 for the late adopters. Business is to make a buck where you can and when you can, and if keeping a game on life support is profitable it will remain there. However, as the veteran playerbase falls off there must be another offering to capture that potential profit or that customer base will be lost forever... well at least there will be % of loss that cannot be recaptured over time - what that is would require #'s that we don't have. That % will taper and then plunge as it increases exponentially over a long enough period of time, and some people are already there.
In a world of 1 new COD's every year, and Halo's that continue to come out every 2 or 3 years, a game like this needs content injections and updates on a similar level - and at times it needs to be completely destroyed and rebuilt anew (replacing Legacy code with a new game). Everyone wants this.
It is in CCP's best interest to start anew. Fund the teams, build a better product, then build up the anticipation, share some info, - even just some teasers - as to what will be next.
The Phoenix will Rise. ... Just tell us when CCP
The Logi Code. Creator, Believer, Follower
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.30 02:54:00 -
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They should just start with remaking my EVE Phoenix trailer with a real art team
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.30 03:48:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:They should just start with remaking my EVE Phoenix trailer with a real art team For being player made though, that was darn good 3d art.
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RedBleach LeSanglant
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.30 03:51:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:They should just start with remaking my EVE Phoenix trailer with a real art team For being player made though, that was darn good 3d art.
True Dat
The Logi Code. Quiet Ally to CPM2
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2016.01.30 04:31:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:They should just start with remaking my EVE Phoenix trailer with a real art team For being player made though, that was darn good 3d art.
I can't complain.
Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper.
Embrace your destiny.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.30 04:44:00 -
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RedBleach LeSanglant wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:They should just start with remaking my EVE Phoenix trailer with a real art team For being player made though, that was darn good 3d art. True Dat
I learned sooo much on that project. Gotta up my game for the next, unless of course CCP beats me to the punch and releases the port.
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rayakalj9
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2016.01.30 04:59:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Pop a perc. Let it flow through my body. OooOOoOh OooOooOh. Mack Daddy, Mack Daddy
hello my king
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Random Gunz The-Office
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Posted - 2016.01.30 05:52:00 -
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DiGreatDestroyer wrote:They are the CPM the community deserves, but not the one we need right now. So we-Śll blame them. Because they can take it. The CPM are the very the best we have. Anywhere. :) Im sorry for hating on you guys
I don't blame you at all for feeling disappointed. I do too.
But the light is coming... Can you feel it?
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rayakalj9
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2016.01.30 16:50:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:DiGreatDestroyer wrote:They are the CPM the community deserves, but not the one we need right now. So we-Śll blame them. Because they can take it. The CPM are the very the best we have. Anywhere. :) Im sorry for hating on you guys I don't blame you at all for feeling disappointed. I do too. But the light is coming... Can you feel it?
i thought your darth vader's evil twin
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Megaman Trigger
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.30 16:57:00 -
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rayakalj9 wrote:Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:DiGreatDestroyer wrote:They are the CPM the community deserves, but not the one we need right now. So we-Śll blame them. Because they can take it. The CPM are the very the best we have. Anywhere. :) Im sorry for hating on you guys I don't blame you at all for feeling disappointed. I do too. But the light is coming... Can you feel it? i thought your darth vader's evil twin
No no, he's Darth Vader's younger brother, Myron!
Purifier. First Class.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.30 17:17:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:DiGreatDestroyer wrote:They are the CPM the community deserves, but not the one we need right now. So we-Śll blame them. Because they can take it. The CPM are the very the best we have. Anywhere. :) Im sorry for hating on you guys I don't blame you at all for feeling disappointed. I do too. But the light is coming... Can you feel it?
And on that day, Rattati, bathed in a lense flare, finally spoke of the future.
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