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Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 263	Posted - 2016.01.26 21:22:00 - [1] - Quote We all know that the devs are quiet. We all have speculations as to why. My hope is that 1.3 will be huge. I'm sure that our beloeved devs have their reasons for all this. . . silence. Now, that being said, where are the CPM? If I'm not mistaken, are they supposed to be the middleman between us and the devs? I haven't seen any of them talking about this, damning or reassuring. Why? If I am incorrect then please tell me. My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2016.01.26 21:24:00 - [2] - Quote Lost Apollo wrote: Now, that being said, where are the CPM? Talking to CCP, more than likely. The information flows like this: players -> CPM <-> CCP And not like this: players <-> CPM <-> CCP If we want information we need to be harassing CCP. CPM is bound by NDA and can't really share anything of value with us. Become the phoenix, rise again
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1	Posted - 2016.01.26 21:25:00 - [3] - Quote I think the CPM are actually part of the dev team... or... dev consultants or some **, I dunno. You know, the saying - calm before a storm - "1.3 will ** a lot of people off" - seems to fit perfectly. PORTDUST514TOPC May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1	Posted - 2016.01.26 21:26:00 - [4] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Lost Apollo wrote: Now, that being said, where are the CPM? Talking to CCP, more than likely. The information flows like this: players -> CPM <-> CCP And not like this: players <-> CPM <-> CCP If we want information we need to be harassing CCP. Or be PART of them and leaking info through a secret account on one of the social networks. PORTDUST514TOPC May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 263	Posted - 2016.01.26 21:26:00 - [5] - Quote Ok, but can they not just pop up and say it's ok? They don't have to give exact details here, that's not what I'm asking for. Just some reassurance. My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2016.01.26 21:28:00 - [6] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Or be PART of them and leaking info I can safely say none of them have the constitution to be that bold. Become the phoenix, rise again
Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 263	Posted - 2016.01.26 21:39:00 - [7] - Quote I don't have a lot of SP or WP for a beta vet. I don't know specifics about a lot of things. However, I have a heart. I care for this game, probably not healthy. How does one become a CPM? I want to help! My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
Nothing Certain Pervy Sages 1	Posted - 2016.01.26 21:43:00 - [8] - Quote They don't say anything because they have nothing to say. The idea that 1.3 is so huge and controversial that a Dev doesn't have the time for a single post in two months is just delusional. Time to face facts and accept that the end is nigh. Because, that's why.
Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 264	Posted - 2016.01.26 21:49:00 - [9] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: They don't say anything because they have nothing to say. The idea that 1.3 is so huge and controversial that a Dev doesn't have the time for a single post in two months is just delusional. Time to face facts and accept that the end is nigh. Call it denial, stupidity, or whatever else but I refuse to give up hope. This community has to many damn negative people and I won't add to it. My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 308	Posted - 2016.01.26 21:56:00 - [10] - Quote Lost Apollo wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: They don't say anything because they have nothing to say. The idea that 1.3 is so huge and controversial that a Dev doesn't have the time for a single post in two months is just delusional. Time to face facts and accept that the end is nigh. Call it denial, stupidity, or whatever else but I refuse to give up hope. This community has to many damn negative people and I won't add to it. I mean we haven't even received an actual meaty update in well over a year, there's just no room for it in the project. Nevermind the fact that Hilmar moved most of the devs and funds to other projects, but there simply isn't enough memory on the PS3 to actually put in anything new. At best there will be some balance changes, maybe a new menu and a couple maps. Perhaps some stabilty fixes if the Gods are kind. Unless 1.3 is a port, there isn't much left to be hopeful for that isn't already in game.

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2016.01.26 21:58:00 - [11] - Quote Lost Apollo wrote: Call it denial, stupidity, or whatever else but I refuse to give up hope. This community has to many damn negative people and I won't add to it. The Dust 514 concurrent login average for this week is 1,520. Compare that to mid-December: 1,766. Just for comparison sake, the Planetside 2 concurrent logins on PC are 2,198. When PS2 is dunking on you, your game is in trouble. It's been over 6 months since we have had a real update. CCP Rattati doesn't talk to us anymore and he was one of the few people at CCP we trusted. At this point we aren't being negative, OP... we're just looking at the numbers. Become the phoenix, rise again
Zaria Min Deir CASSETTE 514 1	Posted - 2016.01.26 21:59:00 - [12] - Quote Lost Apollo wrote: Ok, but can they not just pop up and say it's ok? They don't have to give exact details here, that's not what I'm asking for. Just some reassurance. I don't make it a habit to lie, so there is very little I can say. This is why I have not participated in many Dust related conversations recently, there is only so many times you can say "I can't comment" before you start to feel like an idiot. Like pointed out, we are bound by NDA, and all we can do (and have done, trust me) is to advice CCP to be more open with the community. They have their reasons to remain silent, and agree with them or not, that's how it is. They will talk when they are ready. So, no, I can't just pop in and say "it's ok", when a) I can't reveal anything I know and b) what I do know is subject to change anyway. That is my personal view on the matter though, I am not speaking on behalf of the rest of the CPM. Quote: I think the CPM are actually part of the dev team... or... dev consultants or some **, I dunno. The CPM is not part of the decision making process, in either development or communication. Generally speaking, we tend to have a chance to offer feedback and suggestions, though on some topics we are merely informed of what is happening before the community as a whole. So, no, CPM are not part of the dev team. Ripley Riley wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:** Or be PART of them and leaking info I can safely say none of them have the constitution to be that bold. I personally wouldn't have signed a legal contract without intending to honour it. zariamindeir on Twitter&Gmail
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10	Posted - 2016.01.26 22:11:00 - [13] - Quote Zaria Min Deir wrote: So, no, I can't just pop in and say "it's ok", when a) I can't reveal anything I know and b) what I do know is subject to change anyway. That is my personal view on the matter though, I am not speaking on behalf of the rest of the CPM. What? "It's ok" just means that development hasn't halted permanently. That discussions between the CPM and CCP is still at least occasionally happening. Nobody gives a Rattati's ass what you know and nobody is expecting you to reveal it. Our expectations are incredibly low, we just want to be reminded every now and then that people still care. No one is going to think you're an idiot if you just one every week or so say "It's ok." I'm honestly surprised no one from the CPM has taken such an initiative, it's like no one remembers what it's like to be a regular fan in so much silence. You could create a "Zaria's Weekly It's OK Thread" where you just stop by once every week and say nothing more than "It's still ok" and you'd be the most popular CPM candidate ever. Unless things aren't ok, in which you just say nothing and you're not breaking any NDA. Praetoriani Classiarii Templares = PIE Inc, Amarr dedicated Corp Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 308	Posted - 2016.01.26 22:27:00 - [14] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I'm honestly surprised no one from the CPM has taken such an initiative I'm not. It's a thankless job that yields virtually no tangible results and is primarily a PR position to help foster the illusion that our feedback is being taken seriously.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10	Posted - 2016.01.26 22:44:00 - [15] - Quote Murder Medic wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: I'm honestly surprised no one from the CPM has taken such an initiative I'm not. It's a thankless job that yields virtually no tangible results and is primarily a PR position to help foster the illusion that our feedback is being taken seriously. Or just a signal that it's not entirely pointless for us to still care about this game. Praetoriani Classiarii Templares = PIE Inc, Amarr dedicated Corp Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 313	Posted - 2016.01.26 23:01:00 - [16] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Murder Medic wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: I'm honestly surprised no one from the CPM has taken such an initiative I'm not. It's a thankless job that yields virtually no tangible results and is primarily a PR position to help foster the illusion that our feedback is being taken seriously. Or just a signal that it's not entirely pointless for us to still care about this game. It's pretty obvious CCP isn't budging on the silence thing. Years of horrific PR have basically beat that into them by now. Just play other games and keep the forums open in a separate tab, or if you enjoy the game as is, keep on playing. Keep your expectations as low as they can go and who knows, maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised. Worst case, you'll be right.
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz The-Office 3	Posted - 2016.01.26 23:26:00 - [17] - Quote At this point we sound like a broken record. We have reassured you that CCP is still alive and working, and that they listen to the community. If you wonder where the CPM are, don't. We are doing the job you elected us to do, and we relay your concerns to CCP every day. If you want to know why we haven't addressed the drought of information, click the dev posts tab, and click CPM. We have addressed it. Ad nauseam. We hate this situation, and we hate that we can't just tell you everything, but that's how it is right now. CPM2: We didn't start this fire Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz The-Office 3	Posted - 2016.01.26 23:29:00 - [18] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I'm honestly surprised no one from the CPM has taken such an initiative, it's like no one remembers what it's like to be a regular fan in so much silence. You could create a "Zaria's Weekly It's OK Thread" where you just stop by once every week and say nothing more than "It's still ok" and you'd be the most popular CPM candidate ever. Unless things aren't ok, in which you just say nothing and you're not breaking any NDA. Personally, making a thread like that would feel like a failure to deliver actual reassuring words, of substance and fact. I can't speak for my fellow council members, but I haven't given up on that. If the community wants it, we'll give it to them, I simply think we can and will do better. CPM2: We didn't start this fire Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 267	Posted - 2016.01.27 01:25:00 - [19] - Quote The fact that CPM have spoken is enough for me. Dust isn't dead yet! My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
GeorgeN76 Eden Claims Corp 2	Posted - 2016.01.27 04:22:00 - [20] - Quote Rattati has always been good to us He will have an explanation when he can give it Hopefully that is soon Scouts and Swarms New Edens Pawn Shop

Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 04:47:00 - [21] - Quote Lost Apollo wrote: The fact that CPM have spoken is enough for me. Dust isn't dead yet! CPM speak quite often, its just not always on the forums EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Richard Gamerich-R Prima Gallicus 318	Posted - 2016.01.27 06:09:00 - [22] - Quote When Cazaderon was CPM in 2013 (ex-CEO of What The French), he said exactly the same thing for DUST development (yeah, and that was the silence too...). The reason? Because for the FanFest, CCP said that Legion will be port on PC, and not for the ps4. 5 months before, he stopped completely the game because he was disgusted about that when he learnt it, but of course he said nothing because he was also under the NDA. What I see today? Exactly the same history, and now I'm pretty sure it's for the same reason. Dust is still in development of course, but the next update will be controversial apparently. With the new servers who are coming (they are too powerful for the currently EvE/DUST players), the excess of power is for sure for a big project... and the best platform for CCP is the PC because it's a powerful architecture, and above all, they are more famous there than in console. (and for investors, the $$$ gain is the more important, and I'm sure they think the PC will be more rentable, and they have maybe right, because I have some Eve players in my corp, and all of them said to me they will use their money if DUST will be on PC, so I can't imagine how it's in the CCP mind if there is 30 000 or 40 000 players who think like that) In short, just say that DUST will be port on PC, and we will be fixed. And if I'm wrong, fine, but well, I'm not really naive haha. ;) So I have a question, do I have to build a PC gamer for this year, or not? Thanks lol #portdust514 Good bye DUST 514, officially retired
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.01.27 09:17:00 - [23] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Lost Apollo wrote: Now, that being said, where are the CPM? Talking to CCP, more than likely. The information flows like this: players -> CPM <-> CCP And not like this: players <-> CPM <-> CCP If we want information we need to be harassing CCP. CPM is bound by NDA and can't really share anything of value with us. Pretty much this. As for myself I decided to take a little break from the game over Christmas and New Year (still been reading the forums and talking to CCP virtually everyday). Been playing Fallout 4 a fair bit and streaming the Eve: Valkyrie alpha which I'm in. As Zaria and Darth have already said, there's only so many times you can say 'CCP are busy and taking in feedback from the community and the CPM on a daily basis', without sounding like a broken record. We share your concerns about the silence and have expressed this multiple times to the team. Some of the reasons are valid in my opinion, some are not. But the one thing aren't here to do is tell you what CCP are doing. It's not in our remit and it's certainly not our job. That is the job of CCP and when they feel able, they'll talk. But as Zaria, Darth and myself have already said, the CPM speak to CCP all the time and it's not just posting pics of kittens playing with string.... well not all of it. So CCP are busy but it's up to them when they talk about it. CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2016.01.27 09:25:00 - [24] - Quote Just weather the storm boy's. Those that still play atleast. The most abusive northerner. currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
Abraxis Mangelor Breach Team 97	Posted - 2016.01.27 09:47:00 - [25] - Quote We could use a very simple, clean and powerfully reassuring statement like: "We can confirm that we are currently working on it." That's all I need to hear.
KGB Sleep 1	Posted - 2016.01.27 10:13:00 - [26] - Quote Abraxis Mangelor wrote: We could use a very simple, clean and powerfully reassuring statement like: "We can confirm that we are currently working on it." That's all I need to hear. **** that. 90 days with no comment deserves more than "We're working on it." Because beer, that's why.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 15:33:00 - [27] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: Abraxis Mangelor wrote: We could use a very simple, clean and powerfully reassuring statement like: "We can confirm that we are currently working on it." That's all I need to hear. **** that. 90 days with no comment deserves more than "We're working on it." Unfortunately CCP sees such silence as an acceptable business practice. My respect for them drops a little every day because of it. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Kierkegaard Soren Eridani Light Horse Battalion 1	Posted - 2016.01.27 16:01:00 - [28] - Quote I will say this: It is downright odd that we haven't seen a 1.3 proposal and feedback thread this far into the latest development cycle, to the point where I can only assume that we won't be having one at all, and the next major communication from CCP will be an announcement of the 1.3's features, ie it will be content-locked after the fact. Which in of itself is not an issue, but it's not what we're used to from Rattati's CCP; he made a point of open and honest dialogue between his team and our community, and whilst we are sometimes not deserving of such generosity, it does make me wonder if 1.3's content is so radical that there is a real fear from the CCP-end of a Rouge-Wedding style response from us mercs. To which all I can say is; trust us. Or at least, some of us. If it looks bad but you think it needs to be done, convince us before you drop it. Ah, who am I kidding, I just want to know all about the Shiny ;) Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
Heimdallr69 Second-Nature 6	Posted - 2016.01.27 16:19:00 - [29] - Quote So if it ports to PC I wonder how decent the controller support will be since I'm not really a fan of kb/m Oh well, I'd rather use kbm than be stuck on ps3
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 16:35:00 - [30] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: So if it ports to PC I wonder how decent the controller support will be since I'm not really a fan of kb/m Oh well, I'd rather use kbm than be stuck on ps3 There are actually some solid programs out there for using PS4 controllers on PC. And if Xbox is your thing, windows natively supports those controllers. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer

Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 269	Posted - 2016.01.27 16:57:00 - [31] - Quote I believe that when CCP does break this silence, the news will be completely overshadowed by all the "hate" from us. Falcon posted about issues with Tranquility earlier and some people were asking him to "make the other CCP knuckleheads follow suit". I truly hope that a CCP blasting doesn't occur but... My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal 218	Posted - 2016.01.27 16:59:00 - [32] - Quote Im greatly dissapointed of the CPM, and more so because 5 of them were in my ballot. All the community needs you to do right now is to say: A) You have to trust us, CCP is cooking something worth waiting for in the next update. B) Dont have too many expectations, the next update is not going to deliver anything big. C) You should be worried, the future does not look bright. Just pick the sentence that is true, goddamit! You would not break the NDA, but the truth is you are too afraid or too lazy to do your jobs, or you have reached the agreement to not say anything so the community does not despair. I really dont care about the reason, whatever it is doesnt matter. I would trade the 7 of you for Hans, at least the guy had the balls and common sense to have a blog with some updates. "SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A GD COOKIE"- Aeon Amadi
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 663	Posted - 2016.01.27 16:59:00 - [33] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So if it ports to PC I wonder how decent the controller support will be since I'm not really a fan of kb/m Oh well, I'd rather use kbm than be stuck on ps3 There are actually some solid programs out there for using PS4 controllers on PC. And if Xbox is your thing, windows natively supports those controllers. Stuff for PS3 Controllers exists too (or is part of PS4 Packages) Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. #PortDust514 ...Preferably to both PS4 and PC
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 376	Posted - 2016.01.27 17:09:00 - [34] - Quote Lost Apollo wrote: The fact that CPM have spoken is enough for me. Dust isn't dead yet! The fact that none of them play the game they represent is enough to worry me So the few players that have a clue, don't look back... the future is bright
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 376	Posted - 2016.01.27 17:11:00 - [35] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: Im greatly dissapointed of the CPM, I would trade the 7 of you for Hans, at least the guy had the balls and common sense to have a blog with some updates. + 100
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 376	Posted - 2016.01.27 17:15:00 - [36] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Lost Apollo wrote: The fact that CPM have spoken is enough for me. Dust isn't dead yet! CPM speak quite often, its just not always on the forums Or in-game. Has no-one considered the fact that most in the Skype groups don't play Dust anymore ?? Representation for a group that no longer supports the game is a sure recipe for success Screw those that are still playing, if they are that dumb, chatting to CPM won't help them
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 333	Posted - 2016.01.27 17:17:00 - [37] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Lost Apollo wrote: The fact that CPM have spoken is enough for me. Dust isn't dead yet! CPM speak quite often, its just not always on the forums Or in-game. Has no-one considered the fact that most in the Skype groups don't play Dust anymore ?? Representation for a group that no longer supports the game is a sure recipe for success Screw those that are still playing, if they are that dumb, chatting to CPM won't help them I feel like CPM has always been an excuse for CCP to not take in our feedback as a whole. Relying on an unskilled voluntary focus group to gather feedback for your game has always felt like little more than a PR stunt. It might work in EVE, but it seems detrimental at best here.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2016.01.27 17:48:00 - [38] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: Has no-one considered the fact that most in the Skype groups don't play Dust anymore? The core gameplay of Dust 514 hasn't changed since launch. We've had a single gamemode added (which is just a different take on Domination when you get down to it) and some minor weapon/dropsuit balancing tweaks. PC was reworked a bit. FW now awards some ISK. These aren't big changes. If you have played Dust 514 long enough to earn lifetime WP totals like Zaria, Darth, and the like then you know Dust inside and out. Playing in the last week wouldn't do anything to add to their already extensive knowledge of the game since the game hasn't changed in... what... 6 months now? So please drop the irrelevant, willfully ignorant argument Become the phoenix, rise again
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 18:13:00 - [39] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Lost Apollo wrote: The fact that CPM have spoken is enough for me. Dust isn't dead yet! CPM speak quite often, its just not always on the forums Or in-game. Has no-one considered the fact that most in the Skype groups don't play Dust anymore ?? Representation for a group that no longer supports the game is a sure recipe for success Screw those that are still playing, if they are that dumb, chatting to CPM won't help them I've played and chatted with CPM in game as well? What you really mean is that they haven't spoken to YOU personally and are thus assuming there is no communication. If you want to talk with any of the CPM personally in game or wherever, then ask them to. They can't possibly communicate with everyone through every venue... So if you have something you want to say, you'll need to put in some minimal effort to seek them out. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal 219	Posted - 2016.01.27 18:13:00 - [40] - Quote For the record, "Everything is OK" does not cut it. Pick one of the 3, man up goddamit "SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A GD COOKIE"- Aeon Amadi

Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 1	Posted - 2016.01.27 19:37:00 - [41] - Quote Hey CCP, look at Squad and how they honestly communicate on a weekly basis... https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/42u1s1/devnote_tuesday_a_change_of_pace/ Caldari REALLY 514
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 19:52:00 - [42] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: I highlighted the part I think might break the NDA. Overall, I get your message though: opinions on Dust 514's future would not break NDA. If Darth said, "I've seen behind the NDA curtain folks. Things are looking good, but this **** takes time." or "I'm going to be honest here: my hopes aren't high." Are these statements vague? Yes, but they clue the community in on what is happening. It's a damn slight bit better than silence. Absolutely correct. If such a statement was possible to say, beleive me, they would have already said it. I know most of the CPM on a personal level and I can assure you that they are pained by the fact that they cannot share what they know. That being said, if you want my personal opinion bearing in mind it's entirely my own speculation, the "Something big is coming, just be patient" is an accurate statement to make. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
The Noob Destroyer Pradox One 1	Posted - 2016.01.27 19:54:00 - [43] - Quote I like silence, I can read a book now, before, it was all noisy, now, it is juuuuust right. PASA People Against Signatures And Acronyms.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:04:00 - [44] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: That being said, if you want my personal opinion bearing in mind it's entirely my own speculation, the "Something big is coming, just be patient" is an accurate statement to make. Well yes, but if optimism were a parasite you'd have a tapeworm 9m long in your gut. Become the phoenix, rise again
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 378	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:08:00 - [45] - Quote For Pokey and Riley, 2 who obviously speak with the CPM. There is no point trying to make an issue that they do not speak to me personally, if they tried I would much rather direct them to one of several Corp members who would give feedback much better than I ever could. But I do appreciate the attempt of derailing my point to as little as "why don't they talk to me!!!" It's not personal, my day will not be changed by chatting to members of CPM/CCP Yes, gameplay has been the same bog standard layout for years, I am aware of that as anyone. What has changed constantly in those 2 years is what the CPM should address - FOTM - Gameplay meta (highground, redline, grouping, positioning and fitting synergy) - Gameplay quality (Asian lag, Taco lag, Potato lag, Pasta lag, Cheese Burger and fries lag) - Internal Error causes and frequency - Battles vanishing from search, FW queue or PC deployment - Battles shutting down mid-match Please enlighten me how someone who has not actively played more than 1-4 battles a week since last year or further could possibly be capable of relaying this information?? issues with active gameplay have constantly changed. Sure they know how the mechanics are intended to work, but do they have a clue of how they are used currently in-game In a post you say Dust still manages about 1500 weekly logins? how many of these are in your Skype group ??? Single me out as making irrelevant arguments, but I think calling out those intended to represent the community as a whole is not at all irrelevant when rarely has this ever been achieved and we all know the game has suffered for it. One of the things I have always loved about Dust514 are the differences in how it is played internationally, from the Asians who I consider the best teamplayers in the game, followed by a portion of the Americans who have some great tacticians among them, The numerous lone wolves from Europe, The onslaught of fighting a never ending wave of Latinos or the pressure of trying to get a Russian out of the redline, as a FC I enjoy seeing gameplay trends throughout the playerbase... But yeah, sure.. guys that do not play the game but fap about mechanics are No.1 to bring any of this to CCP's attention
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 378	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:11:00 - [46] - Quote Changes made/influenced by the opinion of what, 100? 200 ? With 0 consideration for the other 1,300 playing ?? For the love of Dust, please do not tell me I am the only one who sees an issue with this
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 378	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:13:00 - [47] - Quote Like it or not, I am as keen to see this game prosper as any of you I am just not willing to put on a stage act to get my opinions across All I can tell you is how I see things, if that is ignorantly irrelevant then so be it
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:24:00 - [48] - Quote I guess I'm not entirely sure what you expect then. CPM is not meant to be the PR department for CCP nor are they allowed to be. If the NDA does not allow them to give you the answers you want, what are they supposed to say? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 378	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:25:00 - [49] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: So if you have something you want to say, you'll need to put in some minimal effort to seek them out. This should qualify as minimal effort to seek them out Add to that a list of forums posts in GD/FIAD and a couple of direct mails in-game. I could log in to Skype right now, but the fact I have to activates a clause in my stubborn Irish mentality Ignorance is Bliss At this stage, If you haven't realized I give no F's what the community/CCP thinks of my sh!tposts, lack of grammar or third nipple What concerns me is the game itself, it's condition and all aspects of it's future from NPE bringing in the gamers needed to keep it alive (yeah that ship sailed a year ago, I know) and lower on the list is a port because once bitten, twice shy imo
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:28:00 - [50] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: So if you have something you want to say, you'll need to put in some minimal effort to seek them out. This should qualify as minimal effort to seek them out Add to that a list of forums posts in GD/FIAD and a couple of direct mails in-game. I could log in to Skype right now, but the fact I have to activates a clause in my stubborn Irish mentality Ignorance is Bliss At this stage, If you haven't realized I give no F's what the community/CCP thinks of my sh!tposts, lack of grammar or third nipple What concerns me is the game itself, it's condition and all aspects of it's future from NPE bringing in the gamers needed to keep it alive (yeah that ship sailed a year ago, I know) and lower on the list is a port because once bitten, twice shy imo I guess they could just copy past the exact same answer they've given in other threads, sure. Like they've literally said everything they're capable of saying. Do you need them to repeat it over and over? I'm honestly asking. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer

Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 378	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:29:00 - [51] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I guess I'm not entirely sure what you expect then. CPM is not meant to be the PR department for CCP nor are they allowed to be. If the NDA does not allow them to give you the answers you want, what are they supposed to say? I want to see what they are doing to represent the communities from around that world that have played... And ten-fold I want to see them represent the communities from around the world that still play CCP are clearly working on something I don't need a tag to tell me that I have seen enough of them to know they will not say until BAM! If CPM have no other task than to state the bloody obvious, why have them at all?? But what I would like to see is more of the minds that have some influence with CCP. You can keep your NDA intact and speak about how you would like to see the game progress But for yet another CPM term, that seems to only matter when people are asking for votes
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:36:00 - [52] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: And ten-fold I want to see them represent the communities from around the world that still play Hypothetically... if CCP were working on a port of some kind. PC, PS4, whatever. Why would they give two flying ***** about what is going on in the game they plan on sunsetting in the near future? I mean, really, all I would care about is if the servers are still up or not. They are? Okay, back to work on the project that actually matters. Become the phoenix, rise again
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:42:00 - [53] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Sbundo'D wrote: And ten-fold I want to see them represent the communities from around the world that still play Hypothetically... if CCP were working on a port of some kind. PC, PS4, whatever. Why would they give two flying ***** about what is going on in the game they plan on sunsetting in the near future? I mean, really, all I would care about is if the servers are still up or not. They are? Okay, back to work on the project that actually matters. Sadly that's kinda true. As for the CPM expressing their ideas about future development...sure? But their opinion should really have exact same weight as anyone else in the community. They're representatives, and compared to the rest of the community, their personal opinions on a given topic is of very small consiquence. The issue is that due to their position and a general misunderstanding of what the CPM actually is...often if they express an opinion about development, people take it as the official word of CCP and it just causes issues. Sadly this is directly due to the fact that CCP continues to remain silent thus starving the players for information, making them prone to latching onto anything remotely considered 'official'. If you want to have a witch hunt that's fine, but you should be hounding CCP for not giving information, not the CPM. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 378	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:44:00 - [54] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Sbundo'D wrote: And ten-fold I want to see them represent the communities from around the world that still play Hypothetically... if CCP were working on a port of some kind. PC, PS4, whatever. Why would they give two flying ***** about what is going on in the game they plan on sunsetting in the near future? I mean, really, all I would care about is if the servers are still up or not. They are? Okay, back to work on the project that actually matters. For once we can agree The port is being worked on, which side it will favour (PC/PS) is still *I hope a 50/50.. Though I recently began EVE and may leave the life on console peasantry for CCP's ideas Mostly because, CCP love EVE, EVE loves PC, Dust goes to PC (BOOM = Logic) though I'd prefer console. Saying that, if it turns out CCP have bunkered down just to string along those still supporting their console project.. Well that may be the kick in the head I need to regain faith in EA, at least they let you know as they are screwing you
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 378	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:51:00 - [55] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: If you want to have a witch hunt that's fine lol Is my posting that bad It may seem like that I suppose, but that is not fully the case. I voted for a chunk of this CPM panel as they were more vocal members of the community... To see them join CCP in the bunker is not what I voted for and deeply makes me regret not voting LHughes It is not just this CPM that I have an axe to grind with anyway, it is the fact that we have a panel for community representation, but I have never seen a focused effort on achieving this from any CPM term, Hans was one of the best when he was there, but again it takes more than some forum bashing and Skype fapping to truly represent an International community.. So don't take it personally, though I may question why, I did give you ALL my vote, except Aeon.. cause yanno...
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 21:01:00 - [56] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: If you want to have a witch hunt that's fine lol Is my posting that bad It may seem like that I suppose, but that is not fully the case. I voted for a chunk of this CPM panel as they were more vocal members of the community... To see them join CCP in the bunker is not what I voted for and deeply makes me regret not voting LHughes It is not just this CPM that I have an axe to grind with anyway, it is the fact that we have a panel for community representation, but I have never seen a focused effort on achieving this from any CPM term, Hans was one of the best when he was there, but again it takes more than some forum bashing and Skype fapping to truly represent an International community.. So don't take it personally, though I may question why, I did give you ALL my vote, except Aeon.. cause yanno... OK maybe I made it sound worse than it is. I guess for me I see it as, I have no idea how restrictive the NDA is, so its entirely possible that vocal members of the community as more or less gagged, especially as things are now and CCP is being super hush hush. My point is that much of the CPMs silence is really not by choice. CCP's on the other hand.... EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 379	Posted - 2016.01.27 21:09:00 - [57] - Quote Let's go of Aeons nuts Grabs pitchfork TO ICELAND !!!!! GG CCP
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 339	Posted - 2016.01.27 21:13:00 - [58] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: My point is that much of the CPMs silence is really not by choice. CCP's on the other hand.... I just want to know why CPM is relevant in the first place.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 21:13:00 - [59] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: Let's go of Aeons nuts Grabs pitchfork TO ICELAND !!!!! GG CCP Or Shanghai? I'm not sure where the evil marketing people are stationed... EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 379	Posted - 2016.01.27 21:26:00 - [60] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Sbundo'D wrote: Let's go of Aeons nuts Grabs pitchfork TO ICELAND !!!!! GG CCP Or Shanghai? I'm not sure where the evil marketing people are stationed... Shanghai are under the orders of CCP HQ I assume, burn it down at the source!

Nothing Certain Pervy Sages 1	Posted - 2016.01.27 21:27:00 - [61] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Lost Apollo wrote: Now, that being said, where are the CPM? Talking to CCP, more than likely. The information flows like this: players -> CPM <-> CCP And not like this: players <-> CPM <-> CCP If we want information we need to be harassing CCP. CPM is bound by NDA and can't really share anything of value with us. Pretty much this. As for myself I decided to take a little break from the game over Christmas and New Year (still been reading the forums and talking to CCP virtually everyday). Been playing Fallout 4 a fair bit and streaming the Eve: Valkyrie alpha which I'm in. As Zaria and Darth have already said, there's only so many times you can say 'CCP are busy and taking in feedback from the community and the CPM on a daily basis', without sounding like a broken record. We share your concerns about the silence and have expressed this multiple times to the team. Some of the reasons are valid in my opinion, some are not. But the one thing aren't here to do is tell you what CCP are doing. It's not in our remit and it's certainly not our job. That is the job of CCP and when they feel able, they'll talk. But as Zaria, Darth and myself have already said, the CPM speak to CCP all the time and it's not just posting pics of kittens playing with string.... well not all of it. So CCP are busy but it's up to them when they talk about it. I'd feel much better if you said CCP is busy with Dust. I am certain CCP is busy, but like you, it has more to do with Valkyrie and VR and nothing to do with Dust. Because, that's why.
Ronin Merc Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 42	Posted - 2016.01.27 21:41:00 - [62] - Quote Honestly surprised that it's been alive this long on the ps3. Silence is rarely a good thing from devs. All we can do is be optimistic.
Zaria Min Deir CASSETTE 514 1	Posted - 2016.01.27 22:00:00 - [63] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: My point is that much of the CPMs silence is really not by choice. CCP's on the other hand.... Pretty much exactly this. Even if it was the CPM's job to do damage control for CCP (it's not, by the way), there is very little we could do, not while CCP is in quiet mode. I know it can be hard to understand for some, when you don't have the context of being under the NDA and knowing what we do, but many of these so called simple statements that everyone assumes wouldn't break the NDA really aren't quite as simple. Community representative doesn't mean the CPM represents CCP to the community, but the other way around. Only CCP has the tools to put out the fires, and they will use them if and when they choose to. And I'm done commenting on that here, all of this has been repeated enough times that it's becoming silly. zariamindeir on Twitter&Gmail
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.01.27 22:04:00 - [64] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: - FOTM - Gameplay meta (highground, redline, grouping, positioning and fitting synergy) - Gameplay quality (Asian lag, Taco lag, Potato lag, Pasta lag, Cheese Burger and fries lag) - Internal Error causes and frequency - Battles vanishing from search, FW queue or PC deployment - Battles shutting down mid-match - EoM bugs in ALL gamemodes All these and many, many other issues haves been raised by CPM 0,1 and 2 on multiple occasions I can assure you of that. But what has been and still is misunderstood by many in the community is that the CPM's range of influence in relationship to making CCP allocate developer time fix any one of those is precisely zero. What I can you is that as has been stated by the Dev's on these forums and during Round Table discussions at Fanfest in the last couple of years, that every one of the issues in that list is a result of poor legacy code from the original team and hardware limitations of the PS3. Nothing can be done about the latter and the former is unlikely to be completely fixed with just patches alone. It'll be likely easier to just start again from scratch if I'm being honest. As to how restrictive the NDA is? It's so tight that if you stuck a lump of coal up its bottom, in two weeks you'd have a diamond. So giving us an A to C list of things for us to comment/like isn't really as sutble a way of divining information from us as you might think it is. As I said before, the CPM are not the mouthpieces of CCP, information has to come from them. Frustrating of course but that's the limitation we have to deal with. CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University
Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 270	Posted - 2016.01.27 22:17:00 - [65] - Quote Good God. I never meant to start a war here. I misunderstood the role ofthe CPM and I'm sorry I called you all out. Had I known it was going to turn into this, I wouldn't have said anything. Seeing the responses that the CPMz get, it's no wonder that CCP is quiet. Stealth bomb us with 1.3! My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
Echo 1991 WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.01.27 23:14:00 - [66] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Sbundo'D wrote: - FOTM - Gameplay meta (highground, redline, grouping, positioning and fitting synergy) - Gameplay quality (Asian lag, Taco lag, Potato lag, Pasta lag, Cheese Burger and fries lag) - Internal Error causes and frequency - Battles vanishing from search, FW queue or PC deployment - Battles shutting down mid-match - EoM bugs in ALL gamemodes All these and many, many other issues haves been raised by CPM 0,1 and 2 on multiple occasions I can assure you of that. But what has been and still is misunderstood by many in the community is that the CPM's range of influence in relationship to making CCP allocate developer time fix any one of those is precisely zero. What I can you is that as has been stated by the Dev's on these forums and during Round Table discussions at Fanfest in the last couple of years, that every one of the issues in that list is a result of poor legacy code from the original team and hardware limitations of the PS3. Nothing can be done about the latter and the former is unlikely to be completely fixed with just patches alone. It'll be likely easier to just start again from scratch if I'm being honest. As to how restrictive the NDA is? It's so tight that if you stuck a lump of coal up its bottom, in two weeks you'd have a diamond. So giving us an A to C list of things for us to comment/like isn't really as sutble a way of divining information from us as you might think it is. As I said before, the CPM are not the mouthpieces of CCP, information has to come from them. Frustrating of course but that's the limitation we have to deal with. We know you aren't the mouthpieces of CCP, you are the mouthpieces of the community, telling CCP what the community thinks about certain things and such. We know you can't tell us anything without CCPs go ahead which is fine we get that. What isn't fine is that no matter how much we ask CCP for info, we get absolutely nothing. This needs to change, and yes we know you have told them this but it isn't going to happen, because of a few a$$hats that Might complain. I mean really?? You would think they could handle a few idiots that moan about everything when almost everyone else just wants to know what's going to happen to game a month down the line. At this point I'd take any bit of information that isn't: 'we're working on it.' I'm fed up of hearing it and it's getting old. CCP need to throw us a bone here or eventually no one will care anymore. I for one don't want to see that happen. Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls. #PortDust514 'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.28 00:53:00 - [67] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: We know you aren't the mouthpieces of CCP, you are the mouthpieces of the community, telling CCP what the community thinks about certain things and such. We know you can't tell us anything without CCPs go ahead which is fine we get that. What isn't fine is that no matter how much we ask CCP for info, we get absolutely nothing. This needs to change, and yes we know you have told them this but it isn't going to happen, because of a few a$$hats that Might complain. I mean really?? You would think they could handle a few idiots that moan about everything when almost everyone else just wants to know what's going to happen to game a month down the line. At this point I'd take any bit of information that isn't: 'we're working on it.' I'm fed up of hearing it and it's getting old. CCP need to throw us a bone here or eventually no one will care anymore. I for one don't want to see that happen. The issue is likely that 1. Despite how much they *****, CPM can't force CCP to change its stance on communication 2. CPM may not even have direct access to the people calling the shots in terms of not letting Devs talk about anything. You're absolutely right that the way CCP is conducting itself in this situation is unacceptable, and quite honestly disrespectful to those of us still around. The sad part is that the CPM has, as far as I know, exhausted and continues to exhaust every avenue they have to increase communication...and CCP simply refuses to budge, probably citing the same "This is just how it's done" BS they have in the past. Are the CPM useful when it comes to offering up insight and advice on game design/balance? Absolutely. Are they useful when it comes to leading community discussions and threads? Absolutely. However in terms of increasing CCP's communication with the player-base, the CPM has not been effective but it's not their fault. Unfortunately it seems that despite the changes promised in terms of communication, CCP remains steadfast in its refusal to offer up meaningful transparency to its customers despite the literal screaming of the CPM demanding such changes. Because if DUST has taught me one thing, it's that: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leowen/Fallout514_zpsnnb7tprh.png EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Echo 1991 WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.01.28 01:04:00 - [68] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: We know you aren't the mouthpieces of CCP, you are the mouthpieces of the community, telling CCP what the community thinks about certain things and such. We know you can't tell us anything without CCPs go ahead which is fine we get that. What isn't fine is that no matter how much we ask CCP for info, we get absolutely nothing. This needs to change, and yes we know you have told them this but it isn't going to happen, because of a few a$$hats that Might complain. I mean really?? You would think they could handle a few idiots that moan about everything when almost everyone else just wants to know what's going to happen to game a month down the line. At this point I'd take any bit of information that isn't: 'we're working on it.' I'm fed up of hearing it and it's getting old. CCP need to throw us a bone here or eventually no one will care anymore. I for one don't want to see that happen. The issue is likely that 1. Despite how much they *****, CPM can't force CCP to change its stance on communication 2. CPM may not even have direct access to the people calling the shots in terms of not letting Devs talk about anything. You're absolutely right that the way CCP is conducting itself in this situation is unacceptable, and quite honestly disrespectful to those of us still around. The sad part is that the CPM has, as far as I know, exhausted and continues to exhaust every avenue they have to increase communication...and CCP simply refuses to budge, probably citing the same "This is just how it's done" BS they have in the past. Are the CPM useful when it comes to offering up insight and advice on game design/balance? Absolutely. Are they useful when it comes to leading community discussions and threads? Absolutely. However in terms of increasing CCP's communication with the player-base, the CPM has not been effective but it's not their fault. Unfortunately it seems that despite the changes promised in terms of communication, CCP remains steadfast in its refusal to offer up meaningful transparency to its customers despite the literal screaming of the CPM demanding such changes. Because if DUST has taught me one thing, it's that: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leowen/Fallout514_zpsnnb7tprh.png I don't blame them pokey, I'm just frustrated. It's beginning to annoy me. I completely understand the CPM is powerless to convince CCP to change their minds regarding this issue. It just sucks balls. Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls. #PortDust514 'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.28 01:11:00 - [69] - Quote It does suck balls. I mean you can ask just about anyone who knows me, and they'll tell you my Boundless Optimism is well beyond what is rational and sane. And even I'm reaching the limit of my patience here. EVE: Phoenix needs to be real. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 272	Posted - 2016.01.28 01:18:00 - [70] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: It does suck balls. I mean you can ask just about anyone who knows me, and they'll tell you my Boundless Optimism is well beyond what is rational and sane. And even I'm reaching the limit of my patience here. My nursing background and being a daddy of 4 has given me more patience than most people can dream of. Am I also annoyed with CCP's silence? Absolutely. Why should I recruit people if the devs can't tell us if there is a future.? My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2016.01.28 05:00:00 - [71] - Quote Lost Apollo wrote: Why should I recruit people if the devs can't tell us if there is a future? Recruit people if you think they would enjoy playing Dust 514 in its current state. Just assume that all Dust 514 will get is minor balancing updates. Still think X person might like Dust? Okay, recruit them. Become the phoenix, rise again
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz The-Office 3	Posted - 2016.01.28 05:13:00 - [72] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: Im greatly dissapointed of the CPM, and more so because 5 of them were in my ballot. All the community needs you to do right now is to say: A) You have to trust us, CCP is cooking something worth waiting for in the next update. B) Dont have too many expectations, the next update is not going to deliver anything big. C) You should be worried, the future does not look bright. Saying any one of those sentences would lead to speculation and confusion (even more than we already have) and would probably be considered going way too close to the NDA. So I will keep saying what we've been saying for months now: CCP is still working. There is a very good reason we can't say anything. When we can say something, we will say it here on the forums. You can say you're disappointed, that's your right. You can say we don't play the game, even though that's not true. You can even insult our integrity. You can get as melodramatic about the situation as you like, but it won't shake our resolve to do our jobs. We know the stakes, and in time, so will you. CPM2: We didn't start this fire Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz The-Office 3	Posted - 2016.01.28 05:26:00 - [73] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: We know you can't tell us anything without CCPs go ahead which is fine we get that. What isn't fine is that no matter how much we ask CCP for info, we get absolutely nothing. This needs to change, and yes we know you have told them this but it isn't going to happen, because of a few a$$hats that Might complain. The "a$$hats" actually don't play into CCP's choice to speak or not. They will speak regardless of hostility, because they have ban hammers for that sort of thing. Instead, they plan what they say and when they say it. More often than not it comes off as ignorant, stupid, misguided, and isolationist, but it is strategic. The "a$$hats" do not now, nor will they ever, matter. CPM2: We didn't start this fire Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
Terry Webber WarRavens Auxiliaries 945	Posted - 2016.01.28 07:13:00 - [74] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: We know you can't tell us anything without CCPs go ahead which is fine we get that. What isn't fine is that no matter how much we ask CCP for info, we get absolutely nothing. This needs to change, and yes we know you have told them this but it isn't going to happen, because of a few a$$hats that Might complain. The "a$$hats" actually don't play into CCP's choice to speak or not. They will speak regardless of hostility, because they have ban hammers for that sort of thing. Instead, they plan what they say and when they say it. More often than not it comes off as ignorant, stupid, misguided, and isolationist, but it is strategic. The "a$$hats" do not now, nor will they ever, matter. So on top of working on DUST, they're working on how to announce new things in the future? Is that part of the reason why they're keeping quiet? Inertial Booster Module Vehicle Installation
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz The-Office 3	Posted - 2016.01.28 08:14:00 - [75] - Quote Terry Webber wrote: So on top of working on DUST, they're working on how to announce new things in the future? Is that part of the reason why they're keeping quiet? Yes. They understand that this silence is not ideal (understatement) and are working on improving and changing the way they interact with us. But of course that's not a quick thing for a company to do, and requires changing mindsets and perceptions. CPM2: We didn't start this fire Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
Jadek Menaheim Incorruptibles 8	Posted - 2016.01.28 08:20:00 - [76] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Terry Webber wrote: So on top of working on DUST, they're working on how to announce new things in the future? Is that part of the reason why they're keeping quiet? Yes. They understand that this silence is not ideal (understatement) and are working on improving and changing the way they interact with us. But of course that's not a quick thing for a company to do, and requires changing mindsets and perceptions. It'd certainly be nice of CCP included some snipets of info on Shanghai development in their monthly o7 show. Dust 514 Market Trello. The essential resource for trading in Dust.
Lex DOCIEL Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 106	Posted - 2016.01.28 10:17:00 - [77] - Quote "Words are silver, silence is gold." Philosophy put apart, we have to understand that keeping the community informed is something nice, but not completely relevant when it comes to run a business. I know I am walking on glass in here, but bear with me. 1 - CCP is a business. With a serious sci-fi game competition that is unfolding, and will continue to do so, in the near future. 2 - Dust514 may be now making money, it cost a lot to CCP to create too. And so does any works made on Dust514 (which is on a dying plateform). 3 - Add to that, the MAIN player base for CCP is EVE online, roughly 10 times bigger than Dust's, all paying monthly fees, which represents a solid and steady stream of income. 4 - A big "next gen" game, Valkyrie, is under work. This represents time, money, and challenges to make it stand in the EVE universe. 5 - CCP sort of failed when introducing "next gen Dust514" Project Legion once already (but never officially said that this project was stopped either) With all that in mind, and even if I am wrong on some points,you would be CCP, would you take just even ONE chance to fail a communication of such an importance again? I think not. So the word is: we keep silent. Until the Dust community leave the ship? Until we are completely sure of what we will announce? Until everything is completely ready to hit hard, both our players in a good way, and the competition in a bad way? Because so far, we just don't know how it would impact us as a company, and our players? Because so far, we are just not ready for the aftermath? CCP is a big company. It cannot make a U-turn overnight. So, it has to think twice, plan in advance, and as much as possible, be cautious, and stick to the plan. Proud player of the most strategic and addictive massively-multiplayer FPS in the world.
Terry Webber WarRavens Auxiliaries 947	Posted - 2016.01.28 14:40:00 - [78] - Quote Thanks for addressing my questions, Darth. Inertial Booster Module Vehicle Installation
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 354	Posted - 2016.01.28 21:07:00 - [79] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Lost Apollo wrote: Why should I recruit people if the devs can't tell us if there is a future? Recruit people if you think they would enjoy playing Dust 514 in its current state. Just assume that all Dust 514 will get is minor balancing updates. Still think X person might like Dust? Okay, recruit them. No. I am not recruiting anyone who might spend real money on a game that we don't know has any future. I wouldn't do that myself and I wouldn't do that to anyone else.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 354	Posted - 2016.01.28 21:09:00 - [80] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Terry Webber wrote: So on top of working on DUST, they're working on how to announce new things in the future? Is that part of the reason why they're keeping quiet? Yes. They understand that this silence is not ideal (understatement) and are working on improving and changing the way they interact with us. But of course that's not a quick thing for a company to do, and requires changing mindsets and perceptions. They're not changing fast enough. They're also not dolts. They know what they're doing is negative. Therefore it's deliberate. They for whatever reason, appear to be "planning" the demise of Dust.

Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 278	Posted - 2016.01.28 21:15:00 - [81] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Terry Webber wrote: So on top of working on DUST, they're working on how to announce new things in the future? Is that part of the reason why they're keeping quiet? Yes. They understand that this silence is not ideal (understatement) and are working on improving and changing the way they interact with us. But of course that's not a quick thing for a company to do, and requires changing mindsets and perceptions. They're not changing fast enough. They're also not dolts. They know what they're doing is negative. Therefore it's deliberate. They for whatever reason, appear to be "planning" the demise of Dust. You, kind sir, need to not be negative. Patience. My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
DiGreatDestroyer GRUPO DE ASALTO CHACAL 221	Posted - 2016.01.29 13:59:00 - [82] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: DiGreatDestroyer wrote: Im greatly dissapointed of the CPM, and more so because 5 of them were in my ballot. All the community needs you to do right now is to say: A) You have to trust us, CCP is cooking something worth waiting for in the next update. B) Dont have too many expectations, the next update is not going to deliver anything big. C) You should be worried, the future does not look bright. Saying any one of those sentences would lead to speculation and confusion (even more than we already have) and would probably be considered going way too close to the NDA. . 1- Seriously Darth? PROBABLY? This confirms what I have always tought about the CPM: The NDA does not restrict them as much as they think it restricts them. 2-Id trade anything if we could have the speculation and confusion you are so wary of. Because now we have hopelessness and confusion. "SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A GD COOKIE"- Aeon Amadi
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.01.29 14:58:00 - [83] - Quote Any one of your a b or c answers would be enough to break NDA because it's confirmation of a 'hypothetical' question. We can say CCP is working but only if it's related to Dust and right now they're working on the battle server issues currently messing with the game. We can't comment one way or the other about if a port is happening, going to happen or happened already. We can't comment or make inference as to a format or formats that a port may or not go to. We can't even speculate as to what we'd like to see in a port if it happens or not because there are players on this forum that will jump on anything we might say and weave it into the latest bit of tin foil. (I know right?) It's a rubbish situation to be in but until CCP makes a statement of announcement of their intentions we can't comment on anything unless it relates to Dust on the PS3. CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University
DiGreatDestroyer GRUPO DE ASALTO CHACAL 221	Posted - 2016.01.29 15:12:00 - [84] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Any one of your a b or c answers would be enough to break NDA because it's confirmation of a 'hypothetical' question. We can say CCP is working but only if it's related to Dust and right now they're working on the battle server issues currently messing with the game. We can't comment one way or the other about if a port is happening, going to happen or happened already. We can't comment or make inference as to a format or formats that a port may or not go to. We can't even speculate as to what we'd like to see in a port if it happens or not because there are players on this forum that will jump on anything we might say and weave it into the latest bit of tin foil. (I know right?) It's a rubbish situation to be in but until CCP makes a statement of announcement of their intentions we can't comment on anything unless it relates to Dust on the PS3. From what I, as a player, know, a port is not going to happen. Im strictly speaking of Dust in the PS3, because Dust in the PS3 is all there is. In none of my posts I mentioned a port, nor do I asked about info of one. It escapes me why you are shielding yourself bringing the port talk to the table, something you obviusly cant talk about, when all im asking is for the opinion of the CPM of CCPs work on Dust on the PS3. My A,B,C question is strictly about DUST 514 on the PS3. I believe i have stressed this enough. Could you pick one please? BTW "CCP is working on the batleserver issues" seems like breaking the NDA to me, while the ABC sentences do not "SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A GD COOKIE"- Aeon Amadi
Echo 1991 WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.01.29 15:16:00 - [85] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Any one of your a b or c answers would be enough to break NDA because it's confirmation of a 'hypothetical' question. We can say CCP is working but only if it's related to Dust and right now they're working on the battle server issues currently messing with the game. We can't comment one way or the other about if a port is happening, going to happen or happened already. We can't comment or make inference as to a format or formats that a port may or not go to. We can't even speculate as to what we'd like to see in a port if it happens or not because there are players on this forum that will jump on anything we might say and weave it into the latest bit of tin foil. (I know right?) It's a rubbish situation to be in but until CCP makes a statement of announcement of their intentions we can't comment on anything unless it relates to Dust on the PS3. can we at least get an estimated release date or how long we can expect to wait for 1.3 to be announced roughly? its been near 7 months since the last patch and that amount of time with next to no talk about 1.3 aside from them saying they are working on it. this is absurd. im not asking for an actual release date, just an estimated amount of time we may have to wait to hear something. cos im cool with waiting if stuff is going to happen, but id like to know how long its going to take. Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls. #PortDust514 'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.01.29 15:30:00 - [86] - Quote Sorry Echo can't give you anything specific on 1.3 at this time. Bummer I know but there you are. And Di, read out your questions out loud to your self and you will see that any answer or combination of answers we might give to the first two would confirm/deny to anyone with a small amount of logical thought as what we know/not know about a port happening or not happening, so none of us are going to answer either of them. And as for the third... how you even think that giving an answer to such a loaded question as that wouldn't be breaching our NDA is frankly staggering. CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University
Echo 1991 WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.01.29 15:33:00 - [87] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Sorry Echo can't give you anything specific on 1.3 at this time. Bummer I know but there you are. And Di, read out your questions out loud to your self and you will see that any answer or combination of answers we might give to the first two would confirm/deny to anyone with a small amount of logical thought as what we know/not know about a port happening or not happening, so none of us are going to answer either of them. And as for the third... how you even think that giving an answer to such a loaded question as that wouldn't be breaching our NDA is frankly staggering. No worries man, i get NDA is a cruel mistress. this is just so annoying. I NEED INFO!!!!! Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls. #PortDust514 'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 1	Posted - 2016.01.29 15:37:00 - [88] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: BTW "CCP is working on the batleserver issues" seems like breaking the NDA to me, while the ABC sentences do not * Reactivates Forum Clone * Give the CPMs a break, they are obviously in a very **** position. As for the NDA of the above statement, CCP have already publicly announced they are working with this (including a forum post about a security update), so... There you go... As they stated numerous times, they can't announce anything until CCP does themselves. Nothing we say or do will change that. * Deactivates Forum Clone ***
DiGreatDestroyer GRUPO DE ASALTO CHACAL 221	Posted - 2016.01.29 15:39:00 - [89] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: And Di, read out your questions out loud to your self and you will see that any answer or combination of answers we might give to the first two would confirm/deny to anyone with a small amount of logical thought as what we know/not know about a port happening or not happening, so none of us are going to answer either of them. And as for the third... how you even think that giving an answer to such a loaded question as that wouldn't be breaching our NDA is frankly staggering. Theres seems to be a misunderstanding here, and im not quite sure we are on the same page. What questions are you exactly talking about? Do you mean A) You have to trust us, CCP is cooking something worth waiting for in the next update. B) Dont have too many expectations, the next update is not going to deliver anything big. C) You should be worried, the future does not look bright. If so, they are not questions, I wanted you to pick the sentence that best suits how you feel about CCPs work on dust 514 on the PS3 "SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A GD COOKIE"- Aeon Amadi
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 787	Posted - 2016.01.29 16:15:00 - [90] - Quote As some of us were observant enough to see, the Jan/Feb period is starting to feel like the target for this upcoming "update". Sony put out a a (surprising? It's for PS3) 1.7.8 Firmware Update only last week... Sony's Account Server has been a bit glitchy over the past few weeks... CCP (clearly not dead, nor laid-off, nor any other goofy conspiracy theory players were getting drunk off of, ugh...) has been tweaking and resetting their Servers over the past week... And, in case no one noticed (some of us did---we have lots of sharp eyes in Dust 514--kudos!), there have been some very subtle alterations to the way dates and times are recorded in your merc-wallet.... And now, a Security component being added to CCP's Server, scheduled for the 1st day of Feb... All this, during the year when the game has finally been reported as turning a profit for the dev company at last... ....Conspiracy theories out the window, even I sense something intense and new about to occur with this upcoming "1.3". Will it even be called an Update? It may be something so more substantial than that... that it could rise to what Eve-Online calls an "Expansion Pack". ...There is blood in the water. I feel safe in predicting that this next addition to the game, is going to do something way beyond anything we've referred to as Updates before. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.

Echo 1991 WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.01.29 16:28:00 - [91] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: As some of us were observant enough to see, the Jan/Feb period is starting to feel like the target for this upcoming "update". Sony put out a a (surprising? It's for PS3) 1.7.8 Firmware Update only last week... Sony's Account Server has been a bit glitchy over the past few weeks... CCP (clearly not dead, nor laid-off, nor any other goofy conspiracy theory players were getting drunk off of, ugh...) has been tweaking and resetting their Servers over the past week... And, in case no one noticed (some of us did---we have lots of sharp eyes in Dust 514--kudos!), there have been some very subtle alterations to the way dates and times are recorded in your merc-wallet.... And now, a Security component being added to CCP's Server, scheduled for the 1st day of Feb... All this, during the year when the game has finally been reported as turning a profit for the dev company at last... ....Conspiracy theories out the window, even I sense something intense and new about to occur with this upcoming "1.3". Will it even be called an Update? It may be something so more substantial than that... that it could rise to what Eve-Online calls an "Expansion Pack". ...There is blood in the water. I feel safe in predicting that this next addition to the game, is going to do something way beyond anything we've referred to as Updates before. I hope you are right. im really looking forward to this update, the only problem is that CCP is reluctant to talk about it. We just want some information, not full blown patch notes ( which would be lovely :D), but something like a little taste of whats to come. Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls. #PortDust514 'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
JudgeIsABadPilot Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 115	Posted - 2016.01.29 17:06:00 - [92] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: They don't say anything because they have nothing to say. The idea that 1.3 is so huge and controversial that a Dev doesn't have the time for a single post in two months is just delusional. Time to face facts and accept that the end is nigh. That's the best thing that could happen. I've been boycotting this game for many months. You're all late to the party.
Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 278	Posted - 2016.01.29 17:12:00 - [93] - Quote Correct me if I am wrong but didn't CCP say that Tranquility was grtting an overhaul in this update? My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 278	Posted - 2016.01.29 17:15:00 - [94] - Quote JudgeIsABadPilot wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: They don't say anything because they have nothing to say. The idea that 1.3 is so huge and controversial that a Dev doesn't have the time for a single post in two months is just delusional. Time to face facts and accept that the end is nigh. That's the best thing that could happen. Both of you can gtfo... My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
Echo 1991 WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.01.29 17:17:00 - [95] - Quote Lost Apollo wrote: Correct me if I am wrong but didn't CCP say that Tranquility was grtting an overhaul in this update? Tranquillity itself is having a hardware update so it's safe to assume they are sorting all that out before 1.3 and citadels for Eve even get close to coming out. We should hope that is done fast and done properly so no problems arise. Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls. #PortDust514 'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 278	Posted - 2016.01.29 17:19:00 - [96] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Lost Apollo wrote: Correct me if I am wrong but didn't CCP say that Tranquility was grtting an overhaul in this update? Tranquillity itself is having a hardware update so it's safe to assume they are sorting all that out before 1.3 and citadels for Eve even get close to coming out. We should hope that is done fast and done properly so no problems arise. To me, there is something worth waiting for. To the 9 Hells with the naysayers! My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC 539	Posted - 2016.01.29 18:01:00 - [97] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Sorry Echo can't give you anything specific on 1.3 at this time. Bummer I know but there you are. And Di, read out your questions out loud to your self and you will see that any answer or combination of answers we might give to the first two would confirm/deny to anyone with a small amount of logical thought as what we know/not know about a port happening or not happening, so none of us are going to answer either of them. And as for the third... how you even think that giving an answer to such a loaded question as that wouldn't be breaching our NDA is frankly staggering. How the CPM tolerates the conditions of the NDA is frankly staggering. Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
Doc Browner Subsonic Synthesis 288	Posted - 2016.01.29 18:05:00 - [98] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Any one of your a b or c answers would be enough to break NDA because it's confirmation of a 'hypothetical' question. We can say CCP is working but only if it's related to Dust and right now they're working on the battle server issues currently messing with the game. We can't comment one way or the other about if a port is happening, going to happen or happened already. We can't comment or make inference as to a format or formats that a port may or not go to. We can't even speculate as to what we'd like to see in a port if it happens or not because there are players on this forum that will jump on anything we might say and weave it into the latest bit of tin foil. (I know right?) It's a rubbish situation to be in but until CCP makes a statement of announcement of their intentions we can't comment on anything unless it relates to Dust on the PS3. So whats the point of having a council of player manipulation? I spill my Blood for Freedom and righteousness
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.01.29 18:21:00 - [99] - Quote You get bonus points for the Council of Player Manipulation Have a Scooby snack CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 12	Posted - 2016.01.29 18:25:00 - [100] - Quote Doc Browner wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: Any one of your a b or c answers would be enough to break NDA because it's confirmation of a 'hypothetical' question. We can say CCP is working but only if it's related to Dust and right now they're working on the battle server issues currently messing with the game. We can't comment one way or the other about if a port is happening, going to happen or happened already. We can't comment or make inference as to a format or formats that a port may or not go to. We can't even speculate as to what we'd like to see in a port if it happens or not because there are players on this forum that will jump on anything we might say and weave it into the latest bit of tin foil. (I know right?) It's a rubbish situation to be in but until CCP makes a statement of announcement of their intentions we can't comment on anything unless it relates to Dust on the PS3. So whats the point of having a council of player manipulation? I did it to be closer to Zaria, my one true love. Sgt Kirk's Youtube Channel Skype: jadkirk

xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2016.01.29 18:28:00 - [101] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Doc Browner wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: Any one of your a b or c answers would be enough to break NDA because it's confirmation of a 'hypothetical' question. We can say CCP is working but only if it's related to Dust and right now they're working on the battle server issues currently messing with the game. We can't comment one way or the other about if a port is happening, going to happen or happened already. We can't comment or make inference as to a format or formats that a port may or not go to. We can't even speculate as to what we'd like to see in a port if it happens or not because there are players on this forum that will jump on anything we might say and weave it into the latest bit of tin foil. (I know right?) It's a rubbish situation to be in but until CCP makes a statement of announcement of their intentions we can't comment on anything unless it relates to Dust on the PS3. So whats the point of having a council of player manipulation? I did it to be closer to Zaria, my one true love. Everyone I knew in SI wanted to be closer to Zaria...none of them succeeded afaik take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.01.29 18:34:00 - [102] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: And Di, read out your questions out loud to your self and you will see that any answer or combination of answers we might give to the first two would confirm/deny to anyone with a small amount of logical thought as what we know/not know about a port happening or not happening, so none of us are going to answer either of them. And as for the third... how you even think that giving an answer to such a loaded question as that wouldn't be breaching our NDA is frankly staggering. Theres seems to be a misunderstanding here, and im not quite sure we are on the same page. What questions are you exactly talking about? Do you mean A) You have to trust us, CCP is cooking something worth waiting for in the next update. B) Dont have too many expectations, the next update is not going to deliver anything big. C) You should be worried, the future does not look bright. If so, they are not questions, I wanted you to pick the sentence that best suits how you feel about CCPs work on dust 514 on the PS3 A and B, no comment because of NDA and because answering would fuel the port debate/tin foil. And C is the one that's certainly breaking the NDA either way so not touching that one either. There is no hypothetical statement or question you could pose dealing with Dust's future that we could answer in any way that wouldn't be seen by CCP's lawyers as breaching the NDA. I really can't see how I can make that any clearer. We can answer your questions once CCP talk and not before. CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2016.01.29 18:44:00 - [103] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: DiGreatDestroyer wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: And Di, read out your questions out loud to your self and you will see that any answer or combination of answers we might give to the first two would confirm/deny to anyone with a small amount of logical thought as what we know/not know about a port happening or not happening, so none of us are going to answer either of them. And as for the third... how you even think that giving an answer to such a loaded question as that wouldn't be breaching our NDA is frankly staggering. Theres seems to be a misunderstanding here, and im not quite sure we are on the same page. What questions are you exactly talking about? Do you mean A) You have to trust us, CCP is cooking something worth waiting for in the next update. B) Dont have too many expectations, the next update is not going to deliver anything big. C) You should be worried, the future does not look bright. If so, they are not questions, I wanted you to pick the sentence that best suits how you feel about CCPs work on dust 514 on the PS3 A and B, no comment because of NDA and because answering would fuel the port debate/tin foil. And C is the one that's certainly breaking the NDA either way so not touching that one either. There is no hypothetical statement or question you could pose dealing with Dust's future that we could answer in any way that wouldn't be seen by CCP's lawyers as breaching the NDA. I really can't see how I can make that any clearer. We can answer your questions once CCP talk and not before. Would you breach the NDA if you just tell us a Phaedrus story? The wolf will be CCP, I'm sure take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.29 21:19:00 - [104] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Doc Browner wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: Any one of your a b or c answers would be enough to break NDA because it's confirmation of a 'hypothetical' question. We can say CCP is working but only if it's related to Dust and right now they're working on the battle server issues currently messing with the game. We can't comment one way or the other about if a port is happening, going to happen or happened already. We can't comment or make inference as to a format or formats that a port may or not go to. We can't even speculate as to what we'd like to see in a port if it happens or not because there are players on this forum that will jump on anything we might say and weave it into the latest bit of tin foil. (I know right?) It's a rubbish situation to be in but until CCP makes a statement of announcement of their intentions we can't comment on anything unless it relates to Dust on the PS3. So whats the point of having a council of player manipulation? I did it to be closer to Zaria, my one true love. Everyone I knew in SI wanted to be closer to Zaria...none of them succeeded afaik That's because they all failed to be Pokey EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
JudgeIsABadPilot Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 120	Posted - 2016.01.29 22:46:00 - [105] - Quote Lost Apollo wrote: JudgeIsABadPilot wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: They don't say anything because they have nothing to say. The idea that 1.3 is so huge and controversial that a Dev doesn't have the time for a single post in two months is just delusional. Time to face facts and accept that the end is nigh. That's the best thing that could happen. Both of you can gtfo... boo hoo I've been boycotting this game for many months. You're all late to the party.
Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 287	Posted - 2016.01.30 01:46:00 - [106] - Quote JudgeIsABadPilot wrote: Lost Apollo wrote: JudgeIsABadPilot wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: They don't say anything because they have nothing to say. The idea that 1.3 is so huge and controversial that a Dev doesn't have the time for a single post in two months is just delusional. Time to face facts and accept that the end is nigh. That's the best thing that could happen. Both of you can gtfo... boo hoo Psst... Your stupidity is showing. Put the helmet back on. My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 288	Posted - 2016.01.30 19:54:00 - [107] - Quote Ok. I wonder if this "security patch" is going to lead into something more... My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
Richard Gamerich-R Prima Gallicus 349	Posted - 2016.02.04 04:21:00 - [108] - Quote Richard Gamerich-R wrote: When Cazaderon was CPM in 2013 (ex-CEO of What The French), he said exactly the same thing for DUST development (yeah, and that was the silence too...). The reason? Because for the FanFest, CCP said that Legion will be port on PC, and not for the ps4. 5 months before, he stopped completely the game because he was disgusted about that when he learnt it, but of course he said nothing because he was also under the NDA. What I see today? Exactly the same history, and now I'm pretty sure it's for the same reason. Dust is still in development of course, but the next update will be controversial apparently. With the new servers who are coming (they are too powerful for the currently EvE/DUST players), the excess of power is for sure for a big project... and the best platform for CCP is the PC because it's a powerful architecture, and above all, they are more famous there than in console. (and for investors, the $$$ gain is the more important, and I'm sure they think the PC will be more rentable, and they have maybe right, because I have some Eve players in my corp, and all of them said to me they will use their money if DUST will be on PC, so I can't imagine how it's in the CCP mind if there is 30 000 or 40 000 players who think like that) In short, just say that DUST will be port on PC, and we will be fixed. And if I'm wrong, fine, but well, I'm not really naive haha. ;) So I have a question, do I have to build a PC gamer for this year, or not? Thanks lol I was right hahaha, and thank you for the like my favorite logistic, it was a good answer for me. <3 #portdust514 Good bye DUST 514, officially retired


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