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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.01.27 04:47:00 -
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Lost Apollo wrote:The fact that CPM have spoken is enough for me. Dust isn't dead yet!
CPM speak quite often, its just not always on the forums
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.01.27 15:33:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Abraxis Mangelor wrote:We could use a very simple, clean and powerfully reassuring statement like:
"We can confirm that we are currently working on it."
That's all I need to hear. **** that. 90 days with no comment deserves more than "We're working on it."
Unfortunately CCP sees such silence as an acceptable business practice. My respect for them drops a little every day because of it.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.01.27 16:35:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:So if it ports to PC I wonder how decent the controller support will be since I'm not really a fan of kb/m Oh well, I'd rather use kbm than be stuck on ps3
There are actually some solid programs out there for using PS4 controllers on PC. And if Xbox is your thing, windows natively supports those controllers.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.01.27 18:13:00 -
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Sbundo'D wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Lost Apollo wrote:The fact that CPM have spoken is enough for me. Dust isn't dead yet! CPM speak quite often, its just not always on the forums Or in-game. Has no-one considered the fact that most in the Skype groups don't play Dust anymore ?? Representation for a group that no longer supports the game is a sure recipe for success Screw those that are still playing, if they are that dumb, chatting to CPM won't help them
I've played and chatted with CPM in game as well? What you really mean is that they haven't spoken to YOU personally and are thus assuming there is no communication.
If you want to talk with any of the CPM personally in game or wherever, then ask them to. They can't possibly communicate with everyone through every venue... So if you have something you want to say, you'll need to put in some minimal effort to seek them out.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.01.27 19:52:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:I highlighted the part I think might break the NDA. Overall, I get your message though: opinions on Dust 514's future would not break NDA.
If Darth said, "I've seen behind the NDA curtain folks. Things are looking good, but this **** takes time." or "I'm going to be honest here: my hopes aren't high." Are these statements vague? Yes, but they clue the community in on what is happening. It's a damn slight bit better than silence.
Absolutely correct. If such a statement was possible to say, beleive me, they would have already said it. I know most of the CPM on a personal level and I can assure you that they are pained by the fact that they cannot share what they know.
That being said, if you want my personal opinion bearing in mind it's entirely my own speculation, the "Something big is coming, just be patient" is an accurate statement to make.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.01.27 20:24:00 -
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I guess I'm not entirely sure what you expect then. CPM is not meant to be the PR department for CCP nor are they allowed to be.
If the NDA does not allow them to give you the answers you want, what are they supposed to say?
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.01.27 20:28:00 -
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Sbundo'D wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:So if you have something you want to say, you'll need to put in some minimal effort to seek them out.
This should qualify as minimal effort to seek them outAdd to that a list of forums posts in GD/FIAD and a couple of direct mails in-game. I could log in to Skype right now, but the fact I have to activates a clause in my stubborn Irish mentality Ignorance is BlissAt this stage, If you haven't realized I give no F's what the community/CCP thinks of my sh!tposts, lack of grammar or third nipple What concerns me is the game itself, it's condition and all aspects of it's future from NPE bringing in the gamers needed to keep it alive (yeah that ship sailed a year ago, I know) and lower on the list is a port because once bitten, twice shy imo
I guess they could just copy past the exact same answer they've given in other threads, sure. Like they've literally said everything they're capable of saying. Do you need them to repeat it over and over? I'm honestly asking.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.01.27 20:42:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Sbundo'D wrote:And ten-fold I want to see them represent the communities from around the world that still play Hypothetically... if CCP were working on a port of some kind. PC, PS4, whatever. Why would they give two flying ***** about what is going on in the game they plan on sunsetting in the near future? I mean, really, all I would care about is if the servers are still up or not. They are? Okay, back to work on the project that actually matters.
Sadly that's kinda true.
As for the CPM expressing their ideas about future development...sure? But their opinion should really have exact same weight as anyone else in the community. They're representatives, and compared to the rest of the community, their personal opinions on a given topic is of very small consiquence.
The issue is that due to their position and a general misunderstanding of what the CPM actually is...often if they express an opinion about development, people take it as the official word of CCP and it just causes issues. Sadly this is directly due to the fact that CCP continues to remain silent thus starving the players for information, making them prone to latching onto anything remotely considered 'official'.
If you want to have a witch hunt that's fine, but you should be hounding CCP for not giving information, not the CPM.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.01.27 21:01:00 -
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Sbundo'D wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote: If you want to have a witch hunt that's fine
lol Is my posting that bad It may seem like that I suppose, but that is not fully the case. I voted for a chunk of this CPM panel as they were more vocal members of the community... To see them join CCP in the bunker is not what I voted for and deeply makes me regret not voting LHughes It is not just this CPM that I have an axe to grind with anyway, it is the fact that we have a panel for community representation, but I have never seen a focused effort on achieving this from any CPM term, Hans was one of the best when he was there, but again it takes more than some forum bashing and Skype fapping to truly represent an International community.. So don't take it personally, though I may question why, I did give you ALL my vote, except Aeon.. cause yanno...
OK maybe I made it sound worse than it is. I guess for me I see it as, I have no idea how restrictive the NDA is, so its entirely possible that vocal members of the community as more or less gagged, especially as things are now and CCP is being super hush hush.
My point is that much of the CPMs silence is really not by choice. CCP's on the other hand....
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.01.27 21:13:00 -
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Sbundo'D wrote:*Let's go of Aeons nuts
*Grabs pitchfork
TO ICELAND !!!!!
GG CCP
Or Shanghai? I'm not sure where the evil marketing people are stationed...
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.01.28 00:53:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote: We know you aren't the mouthpieces of CCP, you are the mouthpieces of the community, telling CCP what the community thinks about certain things and such.
We know you can't tell us anything without CCPs go ahead which is fine we get that. What isn't fine is that no matter how much we ask CCP for info, we get absolutely nothing.
This needs to change, and yes we know you have told them this but it isn't going to happen, because of a few a$$hats that Might complain. I mean really?? You would think they could handle a few idiots that moan about everything when almost everyone else just wants to know what's going to happen to game a month down the line.
At this point I'd take any bit of information that isn't: 'we're working on it.' I'm fed up of hearing it and it's getting old. CCP need to throw us a bone here or eventually no one will care anymore.
I for one don't want to see that happen.
The issue is likely that
1. Despite how much they *****, CPM can't force CCP to change its stance on communication 2. CPM may not even have direct access to the people calling the shots in terms of not letting Devs talk about anything.
You're absolutely right that the way CCP is conducting itself in this situation is unacceptable, and quite honestly disrespectful to those of us still around. The sad part is that the CPM has, as far as I know, exhausted and continues to exhaust every avenue they have to increase communication...and CCP simply refuses to budge, probably citing the same "This is just how it's done" BS they have in the past.
Are the CPM useful when it comes to offering up insight and advice on game design/balance? Absolutely. Are they useful when it comes to leading community discussions and threads? Absolutely. However in terms of increasing CCP's communication with the player-base, the CPM has not been effective but it's not their fault. Unfortunately it seems that despite the changes promised in terms of communication, CCP remains steadfast in its refusal to offer up meaningful transparency to its customers despite the literal screaming of the CPM demanding such changes.
Because if DUST has taught me one thing, it's that:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/leowen/Fallout514_zpsnnb7tprh.png
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.01.28 01:11:00 -
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It does suck balls.
I mean you can ask just about anyone who knows me, and they'll tell you my Boundless Optimism is well beyond what is rational and sane. And even I'm reaching the limit of my patience here.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.01.29 21:19:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Doc Browner wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:Any one of your a b or c answers would be enough to break NDA because it's confirmation of a 'hypothetical' question. We can say CCP is working but only if it's related to Dust and right now they're working on the battle server issues currently messing with the game. We can't comment one way or the other about if a port is happening, going to happen or happened already. We can't comment or make inference as to a format or formats that a port may or not go to. We can't even speculate as to what we'd like to see in a port if it happens or not because there are players on this forum that will jump on anything we might say and weave it into the latest bit of tin foil. (I know right?) It's a rubbish situation to be in but until CCP makes a statement of announcement of their intentions we can't comment on anything unless it relates to Dust on the PS3. So whats the point of having a council of player manipulation? I did it to be closer to Zaria, my one true love. Everyone I knew in SI wanted to be closer to Zaria...none of them succeeded afaik
That's because they all failed to be Pokey
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