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Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants 269	Posted - 2016.01.27 16:57:00 - [31] - Quote I believe that when CCP does break this silence, the news will be completely overshadowed by all the "hate" from us. Falcon posted about issues with Tranquility earlier and some people were asking him to "make the other CCP knuckleheads follow suit". I truly hope that a CCP blasting doesn't occur but... My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal 218	Posted - 2016.01.27 16:59:00 - [32] - Quote Im greatly dissapointed of the CPM, and more so because 5 of them were in my ballot. All the community needs you to do right now is to say: A) You have to trust us, CCP is cooking something worth waiting for in the next update. B) Dont have too many expectations, the next update is not going to deliver anything big. C) You should be worried, the future does not look bright. Just pick the sentence that is true, goddamit! You would not break the NDA, but the truth is you are too afraid or too lazy to do your jobs, or you have reached the agreement to not say anything so the community does not despair. I really dont care about the reason, whatever it is doesnt matter. I would trade the 7 of you for Hans, at least the guy had the balls and common sense to have a blog with some updates. "SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A GD COOKIE"- Aeon Amadi
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 663	Posted - 2016.01.27 16:59:00 - [33] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So if it ports to PC I wonder how decent the controller support will be since I'm not really a fan of kb/m Oh well, I'd rather use kbm than be stuck on ps3 There are actually some solid programs out there for using PS4 controllers on PC. And if Xbox is your thing, windows natively supports those controllers. Stuff for PS3 Controllers exists too (or is part of PS4 Packages) Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. #PortDust514 ...Preferably to both PS4 and PC
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 376	Posted - 2016.01.27 17:09:00 - [34] - Quote Lost Apollo wrote: The fact that CPM have spoken is enough for me. Dust isn't dead yet! The fact that none of them play the game they represent is enough to worry me So the few players that have a clue, don't look back... the future is bright
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 376	Posted - 2016.01.27 17:11:00 - [35] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: Im greatly dissapointed of the CPM, I would trade the 7 of you for Hans, at least the guy had the balls and common sense to have a blog with some updates. + 100
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 376	Posted - 2016.01.27 17:15:00 - [36] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Lost Apollo wrote: The fact that CPM have spoken is enough for me. Dust isn't dead yet! CPM speak quite often, its just not always on the forums Or in-game. Has no-one considered the fact that most in the Skype groups don't play Dust anymore ?? Representation for a group that no longer supports the game is a sure recipe for success Screw those that are still playing, if they are that dumb, chatting to CPM won't help them
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 333	Posted - 2016.01.27 17:17:00 - [37] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Lost Apollo wrote: The fact that CPM have spoken is enough for me. Dust isn't dead yet! CPM speak quite often, its just not always on the forums Or in-game. Has no-one considered the fact that most in the Skype groups don't play Dust anymore ?? Representation for a group that no longer supports the game is a sure recipe for success Screw those that are still playing, if they are that dumb, chatting to CPM won't help them I feel like CPM has always been an excuse for CCP to not take in our feedback as a whole. Relying on an unskilled voluntary focus group to gather feedback for your game has always felt like little more than a PR stunt. It might work in EVE, but it seems detrimental at best here.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2016.01.27 17:48:00 - [38] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: Has no-one considered the fact that most in the Skype groups don't play Dust anymore? The core gameplay of Dust 514 hasn't changed since launch. We've had a single gamemode added (which is just a different take on Domination when you get down to it) and some minor weapon/dropsuit balancing tweaks. PC was reworked a bit. FW now awards some ISK. These aren't big changes. If you have played Dust 514 long enough to earn lifetime WP totals like Zaria, Darth, and the like then you know Dust inside and out. Playing in the last week wouldn't do anything to add to their already extensive knowledge of the game since the game hasn't changed in... what... 6 months now? So please drop the irrelevant, willfully ignorant argument Become the phoenix, rise again
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 18:13:00 - [39] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Lost Apollo wrote: The fact that CPM have spoken is enough for me. Dust isn't dead yet! CPM speak quite often, its just not always on the forums Or in-game. Has no-one considered the fact that most in the Skype groups don't play Dust anymore ?? Representation for a group that no longer supports the game is a sure recipe for success Screw those that are still playing, if they are that dumb, chatting to CPM won't help them I've played and chatted with CPM in game as well? What you really mean is that they haven't spoken to YOU personally and are thus assuming there is no communication. If you want to talk with any of the CPM personally in game or wherever, then ask them to. They can't possibly communicate with everyone through every venue... So if you have something you want to say, you'll need to put in some minimal effort to seek them out. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal 219	Posted - 2016.01.27 18:13:00 - [40] - Quote For the record, "Everything is OK" does not cut it. Pick one of the 3, man up goddamit "SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A GD COOKIE"- Aeon Amadi

Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 1	Posted - 2016.01.27 19:37:00 - [41] - Quote Hey CCP, look at Squad and how they honestly communicate on a weekly basis... https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/42u1s1/devnote_tuesday_a_change_of_pace/ Caldari REALLY 514
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 19:52:00 - [42] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: I highlighted the part I think might break the NDA. Overall, I get your message though: opinions on Dust 514's future would not break NDA. If Darth said, "I've seen behind the NDA curtain folks. Things are looking good, but this **** takes time." or "I'm going to be honest here: my hopes aren't high." Are these statements vague? Yes, but they clue the community in on what is happening. It's a damn slight bit better than silence. Absolutely correct. If such a statement was possible to say, beleive me, they would have already said it. I know most of the CPM on a personal level and I can assure you that they are pained by the fact that they cannot share what they know. That being said, if you want my personal opinion bearing in mind it's entirely my own speculation, the "Something big is coming, just be patient" is an accurate statement to make. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
The Noob Destroyer Pradox One 1	Posted - 2016.01.27 19:54:00 - [43] - Quote I like silence, I can read a book now, before, it was all noisy, now, it is juuuuust right. PASA People Against Signatures And Acronyms.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:04:00 - [44] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: That being said, if you want my personal opinion bearing in mind it's entirely my own speculation, the "Something big is coming, just be patient" is an accurate statement to make. Well yes, but if optimism were a parasite you'd have a tapeworm 9m long in your gut. Become the phoenix, rise again
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 378	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:08:00 - [45] - Quote For Pokey and Riley, 2 who obviously speak with the CPM. There is no point trying to make an issue that they do not speak to me personally, if they tried I would much rather direct them to one of several Corp members who would give feedback much better than I ever could. But I do appreciate the attempt of derailing my point to as little as "why don't they talk to me!!!" It's not personal, my day will not be changed by chatting to members of CPM/CCP Yes, gameplay has been the same bog standard layout for years, I am aware of that as anyone. What has changed constantly in those 2 years is what the CPM should address - FOTM - Gameplay meta (highground, redline, grouping, positioning and fitting synergy) - Gameplay quality (Asian lag, Taco lag, Potato lag, Pasta lag, Cheese Burger and fries lag) - Internal Error causes and frequency - Battles vanishing from search, FW queue or PC deployment - Battles shutting down mid-match Please enlighten me how someone who has not actively played more than 1-4 battles a week since last year or further could possibly be capable of relaying this information?? issues with active gameplay have constantly changed. Sure they know how the mechanics are intended to work, but do they have a clue of how they are used currently in-game In a post you say Dust still manages about 1500 weekly logins? how many of these are in your Skype group ??? Single me out as making irrelevant arguments, but I think calling out those intended to represent the community as a whole is not at all irrelevant when rarely has this ever been achieved and we all know the game has suffered for it. One of the things I have always loved about Dust514 are the differences in how it is played internationally, from the Asians who I consider the best teamplayers in the game, followed by a portion of the Americans who have some great tacticians among them, The numerous lone wolves from Europe, The onslaught of fighting a never ending wave of Latinos or the pressure of trying to get a Russian out of the redline, as a FC I enjoy seeing gameplay trends throughout the playerbase... But yeah, sure.. guys that do not play the game but fap about mechanics are No.1 to bring any of this to CCP's attention
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 378	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:11:00 - [46] - Quote Changes made/influenced by the opinion of what, 100? 200 ? With 0 consideration for the other 1,300 playing ?? For the love of Dust, please do not tell me I am the only one who sees an issue with this
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 378	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:13:00 - [47] - Quote Like it or not, I am as keen to see this game prosper as any of you I am just not willing to put on a stage act to get my opinions across All I can tell you is how I see things, if that is ignorantly irrelevant then so be it
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:24:00 - [48] - Quote I guess I'm not entirely sure what you expect then. CPM is not meant to be the PR department for CCP nor are they allowed to be. If the NDA does not allow them to give you the answers you want, what are they supposed to say? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 378	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:25:00 - [49] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: So if you have something you want to say, you'll need to put in some minimal effort to seek them out. This should qualify as minimal effort to seek them out Add to that a list of forums posts in GD/FIAD and a couple of direct mails in-game. I could log in to Skype right now, but the fact I have to activates a clause in my stubborn Irish mentality Ignorance is Bliss At this stage, If you haven't realized I give no F's what the community/CCP thinks of my sh!tposts, lack of grammar or third nipple What concerns me is the game itself, it's condition and all aspects of it's future from NPE bringing in the gamers needed to keep it alive (yeah that ship sailed a year ago, I know) and lower on the list is a port because once bitten, twice shy imo
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:28:00 - [50] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: So if you have something you want to say, you'll need to put in some minimal effort to seek them out. This should qualify as minimal effort to seek them out Add to that a list of forums posts in GD/FIAD and a couple of direct mails in-game. I could log in to Skype right now, but the fact I have to activates a clause in my stubborn Irish mentality Ignorance is Bliss At this stage, If you haven't realized I give no F's what the community/CCP thinks of my sh!tposts, lack of grammar or third nipple What concerns me is the game itself, it's condition and all aspects of it's future from NPE bringing in the gamers needed to keep it alive (yeah that ship sailed a year ago, I know) and lower on the list is a port because once bitten, twice shy imo I guess they could just copy past the exact same answer they've given in other threads, sure. Like they've literally said everything they're capable of saying. Do you need them to repeat it over and over? I'm honestly asking. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer

Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 378	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:29:00 - [51] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I guess I'm not entirely sure what you expect then. CPM is not meant to be the PR department for CCP nor are they allowed to be. If the NDA does not allow them to give you the answers you want, what are they supposed to say? I want to see what they are doing to represent the communities from around that world that have played... And ten-fold I want to see them represent the communities from around the world that still play CCP are clearly working on something I don't need a tag to tell me that I have seen enough of them to know they will not say until BAM! If CPM have no other task than to state the bloody obvious, why have them at all?? But what I would like to see is more of the minds that have some influence with CCP. You can keep your NDA intact and speak about how you would like to see the game progress But for yet another CPM term, that seems to only matter when people are asking for votes
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:36:00 - [52] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: And ten-fold I want to see them represent the communities from around the world that still play Hypothetically... if CCP were working on a port of some kind. PC, PS4, whatever. Why would they give two flying ***** about what is going on in the game they plan on sunsetting in the near future? I mean, really, all I would care about is if the servers are still up or not. They are? Okay, back to work on the project that actually matters. Become the phoenix, rise again
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:42:00 - [53] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Sbundo'D wrote: And ten-fold I want to see them represent the communities from around the world that still play Hypothetically... if CCP were working on a port of some kind. PC, PS4, whatever. Why would they give two flying ***** about what is going on in the game they plan on sunsetting in the near future? I mean, really, all I would care about is if the servers are still up or not. They are? Okay, back to work on the project that actually matters. Sadly that's kinda true. As for the CPM expressing their ideas about future development...sure? But their opinion should really have exact same weight as anyone else in the community. They're representatives, and compared to the rest of the community, their personal opinions on a given topic is of very small consiquence. The issue is that due to their position and a general misunderstanding of what the CPM actually is...often if they express an opinion about development, people take it as the official word of CCP and it just causes issues. Sadly this is directly due to the fact that CCP continues to remain silent thus starving the players for information, making them prone to latching onto anything remotely considered 'official'. If you want to have a witch hunt that's fine, but you should be hounding CCP for not giving information, not the CPM. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 378	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:44:00 - [54] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Sbundo'D wrote: And ten-fold I want to see them represent the communities from around the world that still play Hypothetically... if CCP were working on a port of some kind. PC, PS4, whatever. Why would they give two flying ***** about what is going on in the game they plan on sunsetting in the near future? I mean, really, all I would care about is if the servers are still up or not. They are? Okay, back to work on the project that actually matters. For once we can agree The port is being worked on, which side it will favour (PC/PS) is still *I hope a 50/50.. Though I recently began EVE and may leave the life on console peasantry for CCP's ideas Mostly because, CCP love EVE, EVE loves PC, Dust goes to PC (BOOM = Logic) though I'd prefer console. Saying that, if it turns out CCP have bunkered down just to string along those still supporting their console project.. Well that may be the kick in the head I need to regain faith in EA, at least they let you know as they are screwing you
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 378	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:51:00 - [55] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: If you want to have a witch hunt that's fine lol Is my posting that bad It may seem like that I suppose, but that is not fully the case. I voted for a chunk of this CPM panel as they were more vocal members of the community... To see them join CCP in the bunker is not what I voted for and deeply makes me regret not voting LHughes It is not just this CPM that I have an axe to grind with anyway, it is the fact that we have a panel for community representation, but I have never seen a focused effort on achieving this from any CPM term, Hans was one of the best when he was there, but again it takes more than some forum bashing and Skype fapping to truly represent an International community.. So don't take it personally, though I may question why, I did give you ALL my vote, except Aeon.. cause yanno...
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 21:01:00 - [56] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: If you want to have a witch hunt that's fine lol Is my posting that bad It may seem like that I suppose, but that is not fully the case. I voted for a chunk of this CPM panel as they were more vocal members of the community... To see them join CCP in the bunker is not what I voted for and deeply makes me regret not voting LHughes It is not just this CPM that I have an axe to grind with anyway, it is the fact that we have a panel for community representation, but I have never seen a focused effort on achieving this from any CPM term, Hans was one of the best when he was there, but again it takes more than some forum bashing and Skype fapping to truly represent an International community.. So don't take it personally, though I may question why, I did give you ALL my vote, except Aeon.. cause yanno... OK maybe I made it sound worse than it is. I guess for me I see it as, I have no idea how restrictive the NDA is, so its entirely possible that vocal members of the community as more or less gagged, especially as things are now and CCP is being super hush hush. My point is that much of the CPMs silence is really not by choice. CCP's on the other hand.... EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 379	Posted - 2016.01.27 21:09:00 - [57] - Quote Let's go of Aeons nuts Grabs pitchfork TO ICELAND !!!!! GG CCP
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 339	Posted - 2016.01.27 21:13:00 - [58] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: My point is that much of the CPMs silence is really not by choice. CCP's on the other hand.... I just want to know why CPM is relevant in the first place.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 7	Posted - 2016.01.27 21:13:00 - [59] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: Let's go of Aeons nuts Grabs pitchfork TO ICELAND !!!!! GG CCP Or Shanghai? I'm not sure where the evil marketing people are stationed... EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 379	Posted - 2016.01.27 21:26:00 - [60] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Sbundo'D wrote: Let's go of Aeons nuts Grabs pitchfork TO ICELAND !!!!! GG CCP Or Shanghai? I'm not sure where the evil marketing people are stationed... Shanghai are under the orders of CCP HQ I assume, burn it down at the source!



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