DUST Search - The silence...

DiGreatDestroyer wrote:

Kevall Longstride wrote:

And Di, read out your questions out loud to your self and you will see that any answer or combination of answers we might give to the first two would confirm/deny to anyone with a small amount of logical thought as what we know/not know about a port happening or not happening, so none of us are going to answer either of them.

And as for the third... how you even think that giving an answer to such a loaded question as that wouldn't be breaching our NDA is frankly staggering.

Theres seems to be a misunderstanding here, and im not quite sure we are on the same page.

What questions are you exactly talking about?

Do you mean

A) You have to trust us, CCP is cooking something worth waiting for in the next update.

B) Dont have too many expectations, the next update is not going to deliver anything big.

C) You should be worried, the future does not look bright.

If so, they are not questions, I wanted you to pick the sentence that best suits how you feel about CCPs work on dust 514 on the PS3


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Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.01.27 09:17:00 - [1] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Lost Apollo wrote: Now, that being said, where are the CPM? Talking to CCP, more than likely. The information flows like this: players -> CPM <-> CCP And not like this: players <-> CPM <-> CCP If we want information we need to be harassing CCP. CPM is bound by NDA and can't really share anything of value with us. Pretty much this. As for myself I decided to take a little break from the game over Christmas and New Year (still been reading the forums and talking to CCP virtually everyday). Been playing Fallout 4 a fair bit and streaming the Eve: Valkyrie alpha which I'm in. As Zaria and Darth have already said, there's only so many times you can say 'CCP are busy and taking in feedback from the community and the CPM on a daily basis', without sounding like a broken record. We share your concerns about the silence and have expressed this multiple times to the team. Some of the reasons are valid in my opinion, some are not. But the one thing aren't here to do is tell you what CCP are doing. It's not in our remit and it's certainly not our job. That is the job of CCP and when they feel able, they'll talk. But as Zaria, Darth and myself have already said, the CPM speak to CCP all the time and it's not just posting pics of kittens playing with string.... well not all of it. So CCP are busy but it's up to them when they talk about it. CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.01.27 22:04:00 - [2] - Quote Sbundo'D wrote: - FOTM - Gameplay meta (highground, redline, grouping, positioning and fitting synergy) - Gameplay quality (Asian lag, Taco lag, Potato lag, Pasta lag, Cheese Burger and fries lag) - Internal Error causes and frequency - Battles vanishing from search, FW queue or PC deployment - Battles shutting down mid-match - EoM bugs in ALL gamemodes All these and many, many other issues haves been raised by CPM 0,1 and 2 on multiple occasions I can assure you of that. But what has been and still is misunderstood by many in the community is that the CPM's range of influence in relationship to making CCP allocate developer time fix any one of those is precisely zero. What I can you is that as has been stated by the Dev's on these forums and during Round Table discussions at Fanfest in the last couple of years, that every one of the issues in that list is a result of poor legacy code from the original team and hardware limitations of the PS3. Nothing can be done about the latter and the former is unlikely to be completely fixed with just patches alone. It'll be likely easier to just start again from scratch if I'm being honest. As to how restrictive the NDA is? It's so tight that if you stuck a lump of coal up its bottom, in two weeks you'd have a diamond. So giving us an A to C list of things for us to comment/like isn't really as sutble a way of divining information from us as you might think it is. As I said before, the CPM are not the mouthpieces of CCP, information has to come from them. Frustrating of course but that's the limitation we have to deal with. CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.01.29 14:58:00 - [3] - Quote Any one of your a b or c answers would be enough to break NDA because it's confirmation of a 'hypothetical' question. We can say CCP is working but only if it's related to Dust and right now they're working on the battle server issues currently messing with the game. We can't comment one way or the other about if a port is happening, going to happen or happened already. We can't comment or make inference as to a format or formats that a port may or not go to. We can't even speculate as to what we'd like to see in a port if it happens or not because there are players on this forum that will jump on anything we might say and weave it into the latest bit of tin foil. (I know right?) It's a rubbish situation to be in but until CCP makes a statement of announcement of their intentions we can't comment on anything unless it relates to Dust on the PS3. CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.01.29 15:30:00 - [4] - Quote Sorry Echo can't give you anything specific on 1.3 at this time. Bummer I know but there you are. And Di, read out your questions out loud to your self and you will see that any answer or combination of answers we might give to the first two would confirm/deny to anyone with a small amount of logical thought as what we know/not know about a port happening or not happening, so none of us are going to answer either of them. And as for the third... how you even think that giving an answer to such a loaded question as that wouldn't be breaching our NDA is frankly staggering. CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.01.29 18:21:00 - [5] - Quote You get bonus points for the Council of Player Manipulation Have a Scooby snack CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.01.29 18:34:00 - [6] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: And Di, read out your questions out loud to your self and you will see that any answer or combination of answers we might give to the first two would confirm/deny to anyone with a small amount of logical thought as what we know/not know about a port happening or not happening, so none of us are going to answer either of them. And as for the third... how you even think that giving an answer to such a loaded question as that wouldn't be breaching our NDA is frankly staggering. Theres seems to be a misunderstanding here, and im not quite sure we are on the same page. What questions are you exactly talking about? Do you mean A) You have to trust us, CCP is cooking something worth waiting for in the next update. B) Dont have too many expectations, the next update is not going to deliver anything big. C) You should be worried, the future does not look bright. If so, they are not questions, I wanted you to pick the sentence that best suits how you feel about CCPs work on dust 514 on the PS3 A and B, no comment because of NDA and because answering would fuel the port debate/tin foil. And C is the one that's certainly breaking the NDA either way so not touching that one either. There is no hypothetical statement or question you could pose dealing with Dust's future that we could answer in any way that wouldn't be seen by CCP's lawyers as breaching the NDA. I really can't see how I can make that any clearer. We can answer your questions once CCP talk and not before. CPM 1&2 Member CEO of DUST University