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Dueling God Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2016.01.18 21:31:00 - [1] - Quote We have been told that 1.3 is being worked on, and has been being worked on for quite a while now. Why are the DEVs so quiet? I'll speculate that 1.3 will not be very big and only contain a few new features. Because the small dev-team has in-fact been tackling Legacy eight-year-old code and doing corrections to get the new features to work. So, because the patch may be little, they don't want to build expectations for mountains when they will be delivering ant hills, although there is a mountain's worth of work underneath. Thoughts?
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 4	Posted - 2016.01.18 21:39:00 - [2] - Quote Dueling God wrote: We have been told that 1.3 is being worked on, and has been being worked on for quite a while now. Why are the DEVs so quiet? I'll speculate that 1.3 will not be very big and only contain a few new features. Because the small dev-team has in-fact been tackling Legacy eight-year-old code and doing corrections to get the new features to work. So, because the patch may be little, they don't want to build expectations for mountains when they will be delivering ant hills, although there is a mountain's worth of work underneath. Thoughts? I would call this the most reasonable assumption to date. o7 All #514InTheWind !@#$!#@!$$@@#$@$!$ Snap out of the Stockholm Syndrome guys.
Fierces Dave Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 25	Posted - 2016.01.18 21:41:00 - [3] - Quote This is what gets me...I saw this this morning. https://twitter.com/JadekMenaheim/status/689071077671198720
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2016.01.18 22:10:00 - [4] - Quote Fierces Dave wrote: This is what gets me...I saw this this morning. https://twitter.com/JadekMenaheim/status/689071077671198720 That looks promising Real CPM Platform
Terry Webber WarRavens Auxiliaries 935	Posted - 2016.01.18 22:12:00 - [5] - Quote Fierces Dave wrote: This is what gets me...I saw this this morning. https://twitter.com/JadekMenaheim/status/689071077671198720 Jadek's probably making it up to troll us. He's not an official CCP employee. Inertial Booster Module Vehicle Installation
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2016.01.18 22:14:00 - [6] - Quote Also, that means it's supposed to be explained today. Guess we'll see but somehow I have my doubts. If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
SAMEERio Th3.Immortals Shadow of Dust 160	Posted - 2016.01.18 22:17:00 - [7] - Quote Only time will tell Eat my Shorts!
Mortishai Belmont Second-Nature Shadow of Dust 1	Posted - 2016.01.18 22:29:00 - [8] - Quote It's probably just a scapegoat excuse for them going on vacation >.> But what I hope for is a huge system overhaul. maybe some re-coding, massive new features, new tanks/dropships/lavs, new maps, and maybe even the other two racial MCC's.... and a new shield damaging heavy weapon @.@ I know it's not gonna be all that, but that's what I would like :3 (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 213	Posted - 2016.01.18 23:29:00 - [9] - Quote It's probably the new AI portion of the PvE they've been working on. See my Post on Crashes: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2413361#post2413361
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.01.18 23:34:00 - [10] - Quote If it contains new features and not bug fixes, it will be the last update we'll ever see. Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2016.01.19 02:00:00 - [11] - Quote I would guess 1.3 is not the only thing being worked on. I am hoping its a port also being worked on, but at this point it feels like we won't hear anything ever again. I don't believe that to be the case, it just feels that way. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.01.19 05:16:00 - [12] - Quote Dueling God wrote: We have been told that 1.3 is being worked on, and has been being worked on for quite a while now. Why are the DEVs so quiet? I'll speculate that 1.3 will not be very big and only contain a few new features. Because the small dev-team has in-fact been tackling Legacy eight-year-old code and doing corrections to get the new features to work. So, because the patch may be little, they don't want to build expectations for mountains when they will be delivering ant hills, although there is a mountain's worth of work underneath. Thoughts? Honestly, that alone will probably please far more players than it can disappoint. Of course, CCP has to find a way to fix bugs while adding new content, but if the community ever found out that CCP has been focusing mainly on addressing the legacy code, then it wouldn't matter if Warlords 1.3 had just 1 new feature added in terms of content. The update would probably be welcomed by the majority of the players if matchmaking were to finally work properly, disconnects becoming a thing of the past, UI bugs be gone, Gallente Lag Facility no longer being a literal statement, SKIN modules finally showing up in the warbarge, terrain glitches being gone, hit detection finally cooperating with the players, people no longer having to reset their PS3 before the start of a PC battle, etc. To this day I still see players who left the game months ago come back only to give up on the game again after seeing how persistent lag has been or how hit detection sucks or how their PS3 still experiences disconnects. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2016.01.19 05:24:00 - [13] - Quote Well Rattati claimed it would be controversial supposedly. Be hilarious if it contained basically no content and thats what was controversial. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.01.19 05:35:00 - [14] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Well Rattati claimed it would be controversial supposedly. Be hilarious if it contained basically no content and thats what was controversial. Anything is controversial these days. But yeah if just fixing legacy code is controversial then I would be ok with that controversy. To me, there is only a few things CCP can do for Warlords 1.3 that can be truly controversial. 1. It is preparation for a port to either PC or the PS4 but not both and that will alienate one of the two player groups around here. 2. Any sweeping changes to the BPOs that we have. 3. Meta Level Lockout which is a topic that has some people disagreeing about it. 4. Another viscous nerf-buff cycle. That's all I can think of at the moment. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2016.01.19 06:40:00 - [15] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Well Rattati claimed it would be controversial supposedly. Be hilarious if it contained basically no content and thats what was controversial. Anything is controversial these days. But yeah if just fixing legacy code is controversial then I would be ok with that controversy. To me, there is only a few things CCP can do for Warlords 1.3 that can be truly controversial. 1. It is preparation for a port to either PC or the PS4 but not both and that will alienate one of the two player groups around here. 2. Any sweeping changes to the BPOs that we have. 3. Meta Level Lockout which is a topic that has some people disagreeing about it. 4. Another viscous nerf-buff cycle. That's all I can think of at the moment. An Assault nerf would do it too, but I don't see that happening. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
jane stalin free dropships for newbs 555	Posted - 2016.01.19 10:11:00 - [16] - Quote I hope they are improving the stability, personally I would want that more than anything else. I don't think it is a ridiculous hope, the bugs scare away new players and the money ...............................boyko...............................
trooper7041 MostlyHarmless. 58	Posted - 2016.01.19 10:17:00 - [17] - Quote I feel this might be a controversial update as it will not only be a very minor update (ant hills) as mentioned here before, but they will also announce that it will be the LAST update to Dust 514. So: - Minor update to GUI, balance, some bugs - Major bugs will remain untouched - No more updates - No announcement of any Dust 514 port or update on the Legion project I've decided to add an extra layer to my tinfoil hat today
Twelve Guage Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2016.01.19 11:15:00 - [18] - Quote No speculation are needed it's pretty clear the game is going to be shut down soon. I have no gun game.
KGB Sleep 1	Posted - 2016.01.19 11:36:00 - [19] - Quote I'll speculate: There is about to be a big announcement regarding the future of Dust. It is a port of sorts but it isn't the port you want. Let's look at what is happening right now. -The marketplace has stopped advertising specials likely to avoid another Rouge Wedding upset. -CCP staff have stopped responding to the Dust 514 community. -There is speculation that 1.3 will hold controversial elements that might "**** people off". -Eve Online gets a new feature where skill points can be traded. -Eve Online could use some new subscriptions. I will bet they answer the old Legion question "How will my character move on to another platform?" with an offer to transfer Dust SP to Eve Online. Because beer, that's why.
Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven 9	Posted - 2016.01.19 12:10:00 - [20] - Quote I don't understand why expections are so high in the first place it is just a patch at the end of the day. I stop playing video games, I don't "retire" Buying dead and inactive corporations

Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3	Posted - 2016.01.19 12:31:00 - [21] - Quote the devs are so quiet because they all have been pulled to wwork on VR projects and havnt been working on dust the last few months. dont believe me? look up all the drama and leaks surrounding the WOD failure and yull see its standard operating proccedure to pull devs from one project for another they concider a higher priority. seeing as VR land is shanghai that means all devs in shanghai are GOING to be repurposeed to work on VR projects as CCP places theem at a higher priority than Dust (wich they reguard as an overall failure) Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 18	Posted - 2016.01.19 12:40:00 - [22] - Quote Dueling God wrote: Thoughts? Stable performance is worth the wait. Dropsuit Usage Rates
trooper7041 MostlyHarmless. 58	Posted - 2016.01.19 12:52:00 - [23] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: I'll speculate: There is about to be a big announcement regarding the future of Dust. It is a port of sorts but it isn't the port you want. Let's look at what is happening right now. -The marketplace has stopped advertising specials likely to avoid another Rouge Wedding upset. -CCP staff have stopped responding to the Dust 514 community. -There is speculation that 1.3 will hold controversial elements that might "**** people off". -Eve Online gets a new feature where skill points can be traded. -Eve Online could use some new subscriptions. I will bet they answer the old Legion question "How will my character move on to another platform?" with an offer to transfer Dust SP to Eve Online. I actually am OK with this. My biggest fear is that both Dust AND Legion will die. However, your conclusions provide hope that there will be a Dust-like FPS on the horizon and they are gearing up for that change. Still a tough pill to swallow though that Dust 514 will die. :(
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3	Posted - 2016.01.19 12:56:00 - [24] - Quote trooper7041 wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: I'll speculate: There is about to be a big announcement regarding the future of Dust. It is a port of sorts but it isn't the port you want. Let's look at what is happening right now. -The marketplace has stopped advertising specials likely to avoid another Rouge Wedding upset. -CCP staff have stopped responding to the Dust 514 community. -There is speculation that 1.3 will hold controversial elements that might "**** people off". -Eve Online gets a new feature where skill points can be traded. -Eve Online could use some new subscriptions. I will bet they answer the old Legion question "How will my character move on to another platform?" with an offer to transfer Dust SP to Eve Online. I actually am OK with this. My biggest fear is that both Dust AND Legion will die. However, your conclusions provide hope that there will be a Dust-like FPS on the horizon and they are gearing up for that change. Still a tough pill to swallow though that Dust 514 will die. :( legion is already dead Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Joseph Ridgeson warravens Imperium Eden 4	Posted - 2016.01.19 13:23:00 - [25] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I don't understand why expections are so high in the first place it is just a patch at the end of the day. Eddie Murphy will handle this one. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
trooper7041 MostlyHarmless. 58	Posted - 2016.01.19 13:29:00 - [26] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: trooper7041 wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: I'll speculate: There is about to be a big announcement regarding the future of Dust. It is a port of sorts but it isn't the port you want. Let's look at what is happening right now. -The marketplace has stopped advertising specials likely to avoid another Rouge Wedding upset. -CCP staff have stopped responding to the Dust 514 community. -There is speculation that 1.3 will hold controversial elements that might "**** people off". -Eve Online gets a new feature where skill points can be traded. -Eve Online could use some new subscriptions. I will bet they answer the old Legion question "How will my character move on to another platform?" with an offer to transfer Dust SP to Eve Online. I actually am OK with this. My biggest fear is that both Dust AND Legion will die. However, your conclusions provide hope that there will be a Dust-like FPS on the horizon and they are gearing up for that change. Still a tough pill to swallow though that Dust 514 will die. :( legion is already dead Is it? I don't think we have any facts to support that. The only thing that is certain is that the Legion trademark has expired. Not indicative that Legion is dead, but rather that it will be called something else.
DUST Fiend 18	Posted - 2016.01.19 13:34:00 - [27] - Quote There's no outward evidence to conclusively support either claim. It comes down to are you a pessimist or an optimist, at least when it comes to this game. If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3	Posted - 2016.01.19 15:15:00 - [28] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: There's no outward evidence to conclusively support either claim. It comes down to are you a pessimist or an optimist, at least when it comes to this game. legion currently has no developers assigned to it and hasnt since shortly after the rouge wedding. its dead, its not WOD dead, but its definatly braindead at the very least. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.01.19 17:12:00 - [29] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: I will bet they answer the old Legion question "How will my character move on to another platform?" with an offer to transfer Dust SP to Eve Online. How much of that SP will transfer, if they are serious about it, is debatable. It will largely depend on how much of an overhaul the skill progression system receives during the porting process. Another thing to take into account is how that data will transfer from a PSN account to a PC or Steam account if CCP goes the PC route. I'm hoping CCP already knows which email is tied to which PSN account so that players who migrate to the PC for the port will be able to easily get some of their SP and assets transferred. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
DUST Fiend 18	Posted - 2016.01.19 17:24:00 - [30] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: There's no outward evidence to conclusively support either claim. It comes down to are you a pessimist or an optimist, at least when it comes to this game. legion currently has no developers assigned to it and hasnt since shortly after the rouge wedding. its dead, its not WOD dead, but its definatly braindead at the very least. And for the most part I am on your side with this. Still, it would be nice to be wrong :/ If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.

IR Scifi OSG Planetary Operations 290	Posted - 2016.01.19 18:41:00 - [31] - Quote From my experiences with other online games this is likely to be the final patch (if it does actually happen). When you stop seeing the long time "public faces" of the game it's usually a sign that something bad is going on behind the scenes. I'd LOVE for best-duke and the rat-man (best buddy cop duo ever?) to come prove me wrong but I'm just not feeling it.
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2016.01.19 18:51:00 - [32] - Quote when 1.3 drops.... Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 7	Posted - 2016.01.19 19:02:00 - [33] - Quote If Rettati is not talking, it is either because he is no longer focused on DUST, or he has been told not to talk to us in case he lets something slip. I think it is likely one of two possibilities: 1. DUST is dead and they are just keeping the servers running until it stops producing positive revenue. 2. DUST is being ported and they don't want to let anything slip yet. Maybe contracts aren't signed yet, or their exclusivity contract with Sony has not expired yet. If I don't hear anything by April I will be shutting down my EVE accounts and becoming much less invested in my Corp and other administrative responsibilities. I will probably continue to play casually until either my PS3 breaks, the Servers go down, or I find a new video game. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
trooper7041 MostlyHarmless. 59	Posted - 2016.01.19 20:43:00 - [34] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: If Rettati is not talking, it is either because he is no longer focused on DUST, or he has been told not to talk to us in case he lets something slip. I think it is likely one of two possibilities: 1. DUST is dead and they are just keeping the servers running until it stops producing positive revenue. 2. DUST is being ported and they don't want to let anything slip yet. Maybe contracts aren't signed yet, or their exclusivity contract with Sony has not expired yet. If I don't hear anything by April I will be shutting down my EVE accounts and becoming much less invested in my Corp and other administrative responsibilities. I will probably continue to play casually until either my PS3 breaks, the Servers go down, or I find a new video game. Interesting points - especially the part about the exclusivity contract. It's very possible that it started when the game was first made available to the public, and that was January 22nd with open beta. Perhaps this date is important, but most likely insignificant. Guess we'll know for sure come monday (as I doubt they would want to make an announcement on a friday)
Leonida Terzo Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 0	Posted - 2016.01.19 21:07:00 - [35] - Quote What i think is that They are working hard for improve Dust 514. Here i found a clue that something New is coming... https://youtube.com/#/watch?list=PLbcZ50krlBvTYwCPnEDHzUpABww0r7IgW&v=LPeK_pt5sGE
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.01.19 21:14:00 - [36] - Quote trooper7041 wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: If Rettati is not talking, it is either because he is no longer focused on DUST, or he has been told not to talk to us in case he lets something slip. I think it is likely one of two possibilities: 1. DUST is dead and they are just keeping the servers running until it stops producing positive revenue. 2. DUST is being ported and they don't want to let anything slip yet. Maybe contracts aren't signed yet, or their exclusivity contract with Sony has not expired yet. If I don't hear anything by April I will be shutting down my EVE accounts and becoming much less invested in my Corp and other administrative responsibilities. I will probably continue to play casually until either my PS3 breaks, the Servers go down, or I find a new video game. Interesting points - especially the part about the exclusivity contract. It's very possible that it started when the game was first made available to the public, and that was January 22nd with open beta. Perhaps this date is important, but most likely insignificant. Guess we'll know for sure come monday (as I doubt they would want to make an announcement on a friday) Sounds very logical. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
KGB Russian Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.01.20 02:46:00 - [37] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: I'll speculate: There is about to be a big announcement regarding the future of Dust. It is a port of sorts but it isn't the port you want. Let's look at what is happening right now. -The marketplace has stopped advertising specials likely to avoid another Rouge Wedding upset. -CCP staff have stopped responding to the Dust 514 community. -There is speculation that 1.3 will hold controversial elements that might "**** people off". -Eve Online gets a new feature where skill points can be traded. -Eve Online could use some new subscriptions. I will bet they answer the old Legion question "How will my character move on to another platform?" with an offer to transfer Dust SP to Eve Online. Hijacking this comment because I can't PM. Hey Boss.
KGB Sleep 1	Posted - 2016.01.20 02:59:00 - [38] - Quote KGB Russian wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: I'll speculate: There is about to be a big announcement regarding the future of Dust. It is a port of sorts but it isn't the port you want. Let's look at what is happening right now. -The marketplace has stopped advertising specials likely to avoid another Rouge Wedding upset. -CCP staff have stopped responding to the Dust 514 community. -There is speculation that 1.3 will hold controversial elements that might "**** people off". -Eve Online gets a new feature where skill points can be traded. -Eve Online could use some new subscriptions. I will bet they answer the old Legion question "How will my character move on to another platform?" with an offer to transfer Dust SP to Eve Online. Hijacking this comment because I can't PM. Hey Boss. Stop mouthing off to the enemy team. I can't get them to report losses if you keep talking all that ***. Get at me sometime, PSN Sleep1. I'm still bumming around with Meph on PS4. Because beer, that's why.*
KGB Russian Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2016.01.20 03:10:00 - [39] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: KGB Russian wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: I'll speculate: There is about to be a big announcement regarding the future of Dust. It is a port of sorts but it isn't the port you want. Let's look at what is happening right now. -The marketplace has stopped advertising specials likely to avoid another Rouge Wedding upset. -CCP staff have stopped responding to the Dust 514 community. -There is speculation that 1.3 will hold controversial elements that might "**** people off". -Eve Online gets a new feature where skill points can be traded. -Eve Online could use some new subscriptions. I will bet they answer the old Legion question "How will my character move on to another platform?" with an offer to transfer Dust SP to Eve Online. Hijacking this comment because I can't PM. Hey Boss. Stop mouthing off to the enemy team. I can't get them to report losses if you keep talking all that **. Get at me sometime, PSN Sleep1. I'm still bumming around with Meph on PS4. Now that's a name i've not heard in a long time. Just hit you on PSN. Hope to shoot some ***** with you two soon.
Soto Gallente 279	Posted - 2016.01.20 03:10:00 - [40] - Quote The thing about speculation, is that is all it is. Speculation. Nothing can be proven until time gives us its secrets. Until then, stay salty my friends. Ex-news reporter for The Scope

Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2016.01.20 04:33:00 - [41] - Quote If this Dev gets quiet, its because I just discovered world of tanks was released for ps4 xD Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Moorian Flav 372	Posted - 2016.01.20 04:45:00 - [42] - Quote Short answer: They hate us. Long answer: Long convoluted explanation of WHY they hate us. Just saying. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 274	Posted - 2016.01.20 10:30:00 - [43] - Quote IR Scifi wrote: From my experiences with other online games this is likely to be the final patch (if it does actually happen). When you stop seeing the long time "public faces" of the game it's usually a sign that something bad is going on behind the scenes. I'd LOVE for best-duke and the rat-man (best buddy cop duo ever?) to come prove me wrong but I'm just not feeling it. Yes, I believe this is what's really happening. No communication, when no communication is such a bad move, is a clear sign that we're coming to the end of all this...
Lucifalic Baked n Loaded 856	Posted - 2016.01.20 13:30:00 - [44] - Quote If people just leave/stop playing due to there being no update or no communication then they will **** off less people when the servers are shut down. Less pissed off people means less bad PR for their other products Here since Closed beta. That's messed up
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy 2	Posted - 2016.01.20 13:40:00 - [45] - Quote Lucifalic wrote: If people just leave/stop playing due to there being no update or no communication then they will ** off less people when the servers are shut down. Less pissed off people means less bad PR for their other products Less bad PR XD You are funny boyko, dust is already stated like great idea what was executed really really mediocre. "Im original Boii Boyko"**
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.01.20 19:34:00 - [46] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Well Rattati claimed it would be controversial supposedly. Be hilarious if it contained basically no content and thats what was controversial. Anything is controversial these days. But yeah if just fixing legacy code is controversial then I would be ok with that controversy. To me, there is only a few things CCP can do for Warlords 1.3 that can be truly controversial. 1. It is preparation for a port to either PC or the PS4 but not both and that will alienate one of the two player groups around here. 2. Any sweeping changes to the BPOs that we have. 3. Meta Level Lockout which is a topic that has some people disagreeing about it. 4. Another viscous nerf-buff cycle. That's all I can think of at the moment. Now that I think about it, I think I know one more thing that can be truly controversial. What is the one thing that makes CCP Rattati, Frame, and the rest of the current Dev team so promising to the Dust community? Their work has always been based off of our feedback as a player base compared how work was done before CCP Rattati took control of development. Because of this all of the patches since Rattati were very well received and introduced more balances and fixes that we all knew were badly needed. But now comes this silence and now we know with certainty that Warlords 1.3 is being worked on. In fact it has been in development for a quite a long time now from the looks of it. It is very much likely to have been content locked at this point. But where are the requests for feedback? I do not see a single thread from CCP asking for help or opinions on how things should be done in Warlords 1.3. This update looks like it will finish without our own input. And I think that is what makes it controversial. CCP did not ask for our input on anything for Warlords 1.3 and I think that will **** off much of the player base. Whatever changes CCP will introduce to Dust in 1.3, many of the players here will start posting threads complaining about features that were added but no one requested and that any bugs or balance issues still in the system afterwards will be blamed on CCP not talking to the players for further input. But let me play the Devil's Advocate for a moment here. I do recall CCP Rattati and Frame asking for a lot of input during the previous year especially in regards to things like the personal warbarge, power cores for dropsuits, weapon & vehicle balancing, etc. but some of those things have still yet to be fully realized and Rattati has told us that it will take time to test, refine, and implement them. Thus it is very likely that the only reason CCP has not asked for our input recently for Warlords 1.3 is because they already have asked for it in the past and are probably getting around to doing the final touches if Warlords 1.3 truly is the final update for Dust on the PS3. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
7th Son 7 Hakuna Matatah Inc 1	Posted - 2016.01.20 20:23:00 - [47] - Quote Their being quite because they are about to be advertising and then releasing Valkarie and cannot afford bad publicity. Another reason is that if they told us the truth of Dust's future it would put a severe dent in profits, neither of which CCP can afford at a game launch, it's just business. Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:14:00 - [48] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: Their being quite because they are about to be advertising and then releasing Valkarie and cannot afford bad publicity. Another reason is that if they told us the truth of Dust's future it would put a severe dent in profits, neither of which CCP can afford at a game launch, it's just business. When FF 14 happened, no one in the main stream gaming press caught wind. The only articles shown, at least on the forums, were blogs and niche sites that would in no real way constitute publicity. No one is going to bother writing about a game that averages less than 2000 players on in ant given day. Did you see anyone bother to write about the new updates besides a few Dust centric blogs? Games are born and die daily without you being aware. Publicity is not at all a concern. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
General Vahzz Crux Special Tasks Group 46	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:16:00 - [49] - Quote Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:29:00 - [50] - Quote General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

Soto Gallente 307	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:31:00 - [51] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Why don't EVE players like us? They should be worshipping us as we add more variety to their universe, or at least we were supposed to... Ex-news reporter for The Scope
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:34:00 - [52] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: One Eyed King wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Why don't EVE players like us? They should be worshipping us as we add more variety to their universe, or at least we were supposed to... Most of them are PC elitists. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
General Vahzz Crux Special Tasks Group 49	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:34:00 - [53] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: One Eyed King wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Why don't EVE players like us? They should be worshipping us as we add more variety to their universe, or at least we were supposed to... Couple reasons. We are not on the PC, main point. We are on the PS3, which sucks; side main point. PC Master Race; other side big main point. Scouts always ninja'ing each other. GG OEK.
Soto Gallente 307	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:37:00 - [54] - Quote General Vahzz wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: One Eyed King wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Why don't EVE players like us? They should be worshipping us as we add more variety to their universe, or at least we were supposed to... Couple reasons. We are not on the PC, main point. We are on the PS3, which sucks; side main point. PC Master Race; other side big main point. So they're salty that another side of the gaming community gets a chance at their universe basically? Ex-news reporter for The Scope
7th Son 7 Hakuna Matatah Inc 1	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:38:00 - [55] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Their being quite because they are about to be advertising and then releasing Valkarie and cannot afford bad publicity. Another reason is that if they told us the truth of Dust's future it would put a severe dent in profits, neither of which CCP can afford at a game launch, it's just business. When FF 14 happened, no one in the main stream gaming press caught wind. The only articles shown, at least on the forums, were blogs and niche sites that would in no real way constitute publicity. No one is going to bother writing about a game that averages less than 2000 players on in ant given day. Did you see anyone bother to write about the new updates besides a few Dust centric blogs? Games are born and die daily without you being aware. Publicity is not at all a concern. Level Cap Gaming who currently has 1.3 million subscribers covered project Legion after FF14, the video currently has over 132,000 views. I'm not at my computer atm or I would post the link for you. Does'nt really matter, I stopped listening after you said publicity isn't imprtant anyways. Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:49:00 - [56] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: One Eyed King wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Their being quite because they are about to be advertising and then releasing Valkarie and cannot afford bad publicity. Another reason is that if they told us the truth of Dust's future it would put a severe dent in profits, neither of which CCP can afford at a game launch, it's just business. When FF 14 happened, no one in the main stream gaming press caught wind. The only articles shown, at least on the forums, were blogs and niche sites that would in no real way constitute publicity. No one is going to bother writing about a game that averages less than 2000 players on in ant given day. Did you see anyone bother to write about the new updates besides a few Dust centric blogs? Games are born and die daily without you being aware. Publicity is not at all a concern. Level Cap Gaming who currently has 1.3 million subscribers covered project Legion after FF14, the video currently has over 132,000 views. I'm not at my computer atm or I would post the link for you. Does'nt really matter, I stopped listening after you said publicity isn't imprtant anyways. I listed reasons why, in this instance, publicity didn't matter. It was not meant as a generality that it never mattered ever. That being said, I would be interested in the article as I was either unaware of it, or unaware of their number of subscribers. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
DUST Fiend 18	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:51:00 - [57] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: One Eyed King wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Why don't EVE players like us? They should be worshipping us as we add more variety to their universe, or at least we were supposed to... We add a negligable percentage to a minor part of their game, and they can drop extremely boring orbitals on us if they want to jump through hoops to do so. We're barely connected to EVE in spirit, we don't even have racial parity 4 years into the game. 10 Year Plan Laser Focused WoD 514
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 279	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:52:00 - [58] - Quote Lucifalic wrote: If people just leave/stop playing due to there being no update or no communication then they will **** off less people when the servers are shut down. Less pissed off people means less bad PR for their other products Exactly. That's why they're using this strategy.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 279	Posted - 2016.01.20 22:01:00 - [59] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: One Eyed King wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Why don't EVE players like us? They should be worshipping us as we add more variety to their universe, or at least we were supposed to... They don't like us because they don't like the concept. To them, EvE is about spaceships, commerce, corporations, empires, huge battles and wars that can last days, weeks, even months, alliances that change the shape of New Eden. Dust is nothing but a hindrance to them because they see it as resources that were drawn away from EvE when they want EvE to be better. Even is already an order of magnitude (or more) better than Dust in almost every way you want to look at it. But that doesn't stop them wanting more. As far as they are concerned, CCP exists for the benefit of EvE.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 279	Posted - 2016.01.20 22:02:00 - [60] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: One Eyed King wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Why don't EVE players like us? They should be worshipping us as we add more variety to their universe, or at least we were supposed to... Couple reasons. We are not on the PC, main point. We are on the PS3, which sucks; side main point. PC Master Race; other side big main point. So they're salty that another side of the gaming community gets a chance at their universe basically? Yes. They want CCP to concentrate on EvE.

Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 1	Posted - 2016.01.21 04:14:00 - [61] - Quote Mahal Daj wrote: It's probably the new AI portion of the PvE they've been working on. They've been working on PvE? If PvE becomes a thing, I see no reason not to play this game 24/7. I've been wanting to blow up robots or space bugs with a plasma cannon for too freaking long. *Bite the hand that feeds, it's tasty!* DISCOUNT
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.01.21 05:16:00 - [62] - Quote General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Not true at all. Source: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=449905&find=unread A lot of them would actually welcome a port for Dust. Sure, they prefer PC but that is where they feel most comfortable mainly because of Eve Online's history and because it will allow Tranquility to be more directly connected to Dust and take out the third-party middleman (Sony) which so far has recently proven to be just as unreliable as CCP when it comes to the stability of their service. Not a lot of people in Dust know that Tranquility is the Big Brother of Eve Online. Even bot users (it's illegal to bot in Eve) are having a tough time avoiding detection from the prying eyes of Tranquility. Hackers in a FPS setting will likely face similar scrutiny in a PC port since that means Sony is no longer the buffer they relied on to avoid detection. Then there is the fact that a PC port will mean access to a separate test server which is what everyone in Dust was asking for during the past 3 years. Many of the Capsuleers are even Dust players (at least the ones that we know of) while there has been cases of more Eve players who are closeted Dust players. There are also plenty of Eve Online players who want to be more involved in Faction Warfare for Dust 514 but they don't like the current setup. They don't know which planet to go to unless they get in touch with a Dust player who is actively in a FW battle right now and the rewards for trying to help with an Orbital Bombardment don't seem to be enticing anymore for the Capsuleers. There is also the issue with the personal warbarges in FW that are taking away the attention of the merc below from the OB support provided by the pilot above. 3 minutes of waiting in a low-sec system surrounded by hostiles are wasted because a merc decided to waste their chance using a warbarge strike instead of an Eve-side Orbital Bombardment which has more advantages than a personal warbarge. I'm also an Eve Online player and I want Dust to thrive. Although I don't really care whether it gets ported over to the PS4 or to the PC just as long as it's as far away from the PS3 as possible. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.01.21 05:20:00 - [63] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: Mahal Daj wrote: It's probably the new AI portion of the PvE they've been working on. They've been working on PvE? If PvE becomes a thing, I see no reason not to play this game 24/7. I've been wanting to blow up robots or space bugs with a plasma cannon for too freaking long. Don't get your hopes up. The AI that CCP Rattati is working on is very limited. Apparently it's using drone models that were already modeled and even rigged. These Rogue Drones were even featured in an old Dust trailer called Gathering Forces. But their AI is no more intelligent than what you see operating the turret installations today. The only reason we can't get them is because Dust has already reached the limit of the PS3 and CCP Rattati said that the game has been optimized as much as it could for the hardware it's in. Sources: https://youtu.be/x_RgGJpoUeg https://youtu.be/Xnt1tTlnqfY EDIT: Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2965572#post2965572 Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 1	Posted - 2016.01.21 06:36:00 - [64] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Cloak Dog wrote: Mahal Daj wrote: It's probably the new AI portion of the PvE they've been working on. They've been working on PvE? If PvE becomes a thing, I see no reason not to play this game 24/7. I've been wanting to blow up robots or space bugs with a plasma cannon for too freaking long. Don't get your hopes up. The AI that CCP Rattati is working on is very limited. Apparently it's using drone models that were already modeled and even rigged. These Rogue Drones were even featured in an old Dust trailer called Gathering Forces. But their AI is no more intelligent than what you see operating the turret installations today. The only reason we can't get them is because Dust has already reached the limit of the PS3 and CCP Rattati said that the game has been optimized as much as it could for the hardware it's in. Sources: https://youtu.be/x_RgGJpoUeg https://youtu.be/Xnt1tTlnqfY EDIT: Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2965572#post2965572 Even than, as long as its its own game mode, where you are either surviving alone or fighting with a squad, I'd love it. I'm tired of shooting at people. I want to snipe a drone from 250 meters I want to pwn a drone with a shotgun I want to tear through robots with an assault HMG I want to be killed by a robot. *Bite the hand that feeds, it's tasty!* DISCOUNT
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1	Posted - 2016.01.21 12:29:00 - [65] - Quote Devadander wrote: If this Dev gets quiet, its because I just discovered world of tanks was released for ps4 xD Tanks are love, tanks are life. <3 PORTDUST514TOPC May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.


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