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IR Scifi OSG Planetary Operations 290	Posted - 2016.01.19 18:41:00 - [31] - Quote From my experiences with other online games this is likely to be the final patch (if it does actually happen). When you stop seeing the long time "public faces" of the game it's usually a sign that something bad is going on behind the scenes. I'd LOVE for best-duke and the rat-man (best buddy cop duo ever?) to come prove me wrong but I'm just not feeling it.
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2016.01.19 18:51:00 - [32] - Quote when 1.3 drops.... Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 7	Posted - 2016.01.19 19:02:00 - [33] - Quote If Rettati is not talking, it is either because he is no longer focused on DUST, or he has been told not to talk to us in case he lets something slip. I think it is likely one of two possibilities: 1. DUST is dead and they are just keeping the servers running until it stops producing positive revenue. 2. DUST is being ported and they don't want to let anything slip yet. Maybe contracts aren't signed yet, or their exclusivity contract with Sony has not expired yet. If I don't hear anything by April I will be shutting down my EVE accounts and becoming much less invested in my Corp and other administrative responsibilities. I will probably continue to play casually until either my PS3 breaks, the Servers go down, or I find a new video game. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
trooper7041 MostlyHarmless. 59	Posted - 2016.01.19 20:43:00 - [34] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: If Rettati is not talking, it is either because he is no longer focused on DUST, or he has been told not to talk to us in case he lets something slip. I think it is likely one of two possibilities: 1. DUST is dead and they are just keeping the servers running until it stops producing positive revenue. 2. DUST is being ported and they don't want to let anything slip yet. Maybe contracts aren't signed yet, or their exclusivity contract with Sony has not expired yet. If I don't hear anything by April I will be shutting down my EVE accounts and becoming much less invested in my Corp and other administrative responsibilities. I will probably continue to play casually until either my PS3 breaks, the Servers go down, or I find a new video game. Interesting points - especially the part about the exclusivity contract. It's very possible that it started when the game was first made available to the public, and that was January 22nd with open beta. Perhaps this date is important, but most likely insignificant. Guess we'll know for sure come monday (as I doubt they would want to make an announcement on a friday)
Leonida Terzo Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 0	Posted - 2016.01.19 21:07:00 - [35] - Quote What i think is that They are working hard for improve Dust 514. Here i found a clue that something New is coming... https://youtube.com/#/watch?list=PLbcZ50krlBvTYwCPnEDHzUpABww0r7IgW&v=LPeK_pt5sGE
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.01.19 21:14:00 - [36] - Quote trooper7041 wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: If Rettati is not talking, it is either because he is no longer focused on DUST, or he has been told not to talk to us in case he lets something slip. I think it is likely one of two possibilities: 1. DUST is dead and they are just keeping the servers running until it stops producing positive revenue. 2. DUST is being ported and they don't want to let anything slip yet. Maybe contracts aren't signed yet, or their exclusivity contract with Sony has not expired yet. If I don't hear anything by April I will be shutting down my EVE accounts and becoming much less invested in my Corp and other administrative responsibilities. I will probably continue to play casually until either my PS3 breaks, the Servers go down, or I find a new video game. Interesting points - especially the part about the exclusivity contract. It's very possible that it started when the game was first made available to the public, and that was January 22nd with open beta. Perhaps this date is important, but most likely insignificant. Guess we'll know for sure come monday (as I doubt they would want to make an announcement on a friday) Sounds very logical. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
KGB Russian Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.01.20 02:46:00 - [37] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: I'll speculate: There is about to be a big announcement regarding the future of Dust. It is a port of sorts but it isn't the port you want. Let's look at what is happening right now. -The marketplace has stopped advertising specials likely to avoid another Rouge Wedding upset. -CCP staff have stopped responding to the Dust 514 community. -There is speculation that 1.3 will hold controversial elements that might "**** people off". -Eve Online gets a new feature where skill points can be traded. -Eve Online could use some new subscriptions. I will bet they answer the old Legion question "How will my character move on to another platform?" with an offer to transfer Dust SP to Eve Online. Hijacking this comment because I can't PM. Hey Boss.
KGB Sleep 1	Posted - 2016.01.20 02:59:00 - [38] - Quote KGB Russian wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: I'll speculate: There is about to be a big announcement regarding the future of Dust. It is a port of sorts but it isn't the port you want. Let's look at what is happening right now. -The marketplace has stopped advertising specials likely to avoid another Rouge Wedding upset. -CCP staff have stopped responding to the Dust 514 community. -There is speculation that 1.3 will hold controversial elements that might "**** people off". -Eve Online gets a new feature where skill points can be traded. -Eve Online could use some new subscriptions. I will bet they answer the old Legion question "How will my character move on to another platform?" with an offer to transfer Dust SP to Eve Online. Hijacking this comment because I can't PM. Hey Boss. Stop mouthing off to the enemy team. I can't get them to report losses if you keep talking all that ***. Get at me sometime, PSN Sleep1. I'm still bumming around with Meph on PS4. Because beer, that's why.*
KGB Russian Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2016.01.20 03:10:00 - [39] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: KGB Russian wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: I'll speculate: There is about to be a big announcement regarding the future of Dust. It is a port of sorts but it isn't the port you want. Let's look at what is happening right now. -The marketplace has stopped advertising specials likely to avoid another Rouge Wedding upset. -CCP staff have stopped responding to the Dust 514 community. -There is speculation that 1.3 will hold controversial elements that might "**** people off". -Eve Online gets a new feature where skill points can be traded. -Eve Online could use some new subscriptions. I will bet they answer the old Legion question "How will my character move on to another platform?" with an offer to transfer Dust SP to Eve Online. Hijacking this comment because I can't PM. Hey Boss. Stop mouthing off to the enemy team. I can't get them to report losses if you keep talking all that **. Get at me sometime, PSN Sleep1. I'm still bumming around with Meph on PS4. Now that's a name i've not heard in a long time. Just hit you on PSN. Hope to shoot some ***** with you two soon.
Soto Gallente 279	Posted - 2016.01.20 03:10:00 - [40] - Quote The thing about speculation, is that is all it is. Speculation. Nothing can be proven until time gives us its secrets. Until then, stay salty my friends. Ex-news reporter for The Scope

Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2016.01.20 04:33:00 - [41] - Quote If this Dev gets quiet, its because I just discovered world of tanks was released for ps4 xD Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Moorian Flav 372	Posted - 2016.01.20 04:45:00 - [42] - Quote Short answer: They hate us. Long answer: Long convoluted explanation of WHY they hate us. Just saying. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 274	Posted - 2016.01.20 10:30:00 - [43] - Quote IR Scifi wrote: From my experiences with other online games this is likely to be the final patch (if it does actually happen). When you stop seeing the long time "public faces" of the game it's usually a sign that something bad is going on behind the scenes. I'd LOVE for best-duke and the rat-man (best buddy cop duo ever?) to come prove me wrong but I'm just not feeling it. Yes, I believe this is what's really happening. No communication, when no communication is such a bad move, is a clear sign that we're coming to the end of all this...
Lucifalic Baked n Loaded 856	Posted - 2016.01.20 13:30:00 - [44] - Quote If people just leave/stop playing due to there being no update or no communication then they will **** off less people when the servers are shut down. Less pissed off people means less bad PR for their other products Here since Closed beta. That's messed up
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy 2	Posted - 2016.01.20 13:40:00 - [45] - Quote Lucifalic wrote: If people just leave/stop playing due to there being no update or no communication then they will ** off less people when the servers are shut down. Less pissed off people means less bad PR for their other products Less bad PR XD You are funny boyko, dust is already stated like great idea what was executed really really mediocre. "Im original Boii Boyko"**
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.01.20 19:34:00 - [46] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Well Rattati claimed it would be controversial supposedly. Be hilarious if it contained basically no content and thats what was controversial. Anything is controversial these days. But yeah if just fixing legacy code is controversial then I would be ok with that controversy. To me, there is only a few things CCP can do for Warlords 1.3 that can be truly controversial. 1. It is preparation for a port to either PC or the PS4 but not both and that will alienate one of the two player groups around here. 2. Any sweeping changes to the BPOs that we have. 3. Meta Level Lockout which is a topic that has some people disagreeing about it. 4. Another viscous nerf-buff cycle. That's all I can think of at the moment. Now that I think about it, I think I know one more thing that can be truly controversial. What is the one thing that makes CCP Rattati, Frame, and the rest of the current Dev team so promising to the Dust community? Their work has always been based off of our feedback as a player base compared how work was done before CCP Rattati took control of development. Because of this all of the patches since Rattati were very well received and introduced more balances and fixes that we all knew were badly needed. But now comes this silence and now we know with certainty that Warlords 1.3 is being worked on. In fact it has been in development for a quite a long time now from the looks of it. It is very much likely to have been content locked at this point. But where are the requests for feedback? I do not see a single thread from CCP asking for help or opinions on how things should be done in Warlords 1.3. This update looks like it will finish without our own input. And I think that is what makes it controversial. CCP did not ask for our input on anything for Warlords 1.3 and I think that will **** off much of the player base. Whatever changes CCP will introduce to Dust in 1.3, many of the players here will start posting threads complaining about features that were added but no one requested and that any bugs or balance issues still in the system afterwards will be blamed on CCP not talking to the players for further input. But let me play the Devil's Advocate for a moment here. I do recall CCP Rattati and Frame asking for a lot of input during the previous year especially in regards to things like the personal warbarge, power cores for dropsuits, weapon & vehicle balancing, etc. but some of those things have still yet to be fully realized and Rattati has told us that it will take time to test, refine, and implement them. Thus it is very likely that the only reason CCP has not asked for our input recently for Warlords 1.3 is because they already have asked for it in the past and are probably getting around to doing the final touches if Warlords 1.3 truly is the final update for Dust on the PS3. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
7th Son 7 Hakuna Matatah Inc 1	Posted - 2016.01.20 20:23:00 - [47] - Quote Their being quite because they are about to be advertising and then releasing Valkarie and cannot afford bad publicity. Another reason is that if they told us the truth of Dust's future it would put a severe dent in profits, neither of which CCP can afford at a game launch, it's just business. Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:14:00 - [48] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: Their being quite because they are about to be advertising and then releasing Valkarie and cannot afford bad publicity. Another reason is that if they told us the truth of Dust's future it would put a severe dent in profits, neither of which CCP can afford at a game launch, it's just business. When FF 14 happened, no one in the main stream gaming press caught wind. The only articles shown, at least on the forums, were blogs and niche sites that would in no real way constitute publicity. No one is going to bother writing about a game that averages less than 2000 players on in ant given day. Did you see anyone bother to write about the new updates besides a few Dust centric blogs? Games are born and die daily without you being aware. Publicity is not at all a concern. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
General Vahzz Crux Special Tasks Group 46	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:16:00 - [49] - Quote Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:29:00 - [50] - Quote General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

Soto Gallente 307	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:31:00 - [51] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Why don't EVE players like us? They should be worshipping us as we add more variety to their universe, or at least we were supposed to... Ex-news reporter for The Scope
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:34:00 - [52] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: One Eyed King wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Why don't EVE players like us? They should be worshipping us as we add more variety to their universe, or at least we were supposed to... Most of them are PC elitists. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
General Vahzz Crux Special Tasks Group 49	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:34:00 - [53] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: One Eyed King wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Why don't EVE players like us? They should be worshipping us as we add more variety to their universe, or at least we were supposed to... Couple reasons. We are not on the PC, main point. We are on the PS3, which sucks; side main point. PC Master Race; other side big main point. Scouts always ninja'ing each other. GG OEK.
Soto Gallente 307	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:37:00 - [54] - Quote General Vahzz wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: One Eyed King wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Why don't EVE players like us? They should be worshipping us as we add more variety to their universe, or at least we were supposed to... Couple reasons. We are not on the PC, main point. We are on the PS3, which sucks; side main point. PC Master Race; other side big main point. So they're salty that another side of the gaming community gets a chance at their universe basically? Ex-news reporter for The Scope
7th Son 7 Hakuna Matatah Inc 1	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:38:00 - [55] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Their being quite because they are about to be advertising and then releasing Valkarie and cannot afford bad publicity. Another reason is that if they told us the truth of Dust's future it would put a severe dent in profits, neither of which CCP can afford at a game launch, it's just business. When FF 14 happened, no one in the main stream gaming press caught wind. The only articles shown, at least on the forums, were blogs and niche sites that would in no real way constitute publicity. No one is going to bother writing about a game that averages less than 2000 players on in ant given day. Did you see anyone bother to write about the new updates besides a few Dust centric blogs? Games are born and die daily without you being aware. Publicity is not at all a concern. Level Cap Gaming who currently has 1.3 million subscribers covered project Legion after FF14, the video currently has over 132,000 views. I'm not at my computer atm or I would post the link for you. Does'nt really matter, I stopped listening after you said publicity isn't imprtant anyways. Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:49:00 - [56] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: One Eyed King wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Their being quite because they are about to be advertising and then releasing Valkarie and cannot afford bad publicity. Another reason is that if they told us the truth of Dust's future it would put a severe dent in profits, neither of which CCP can afford at a game launch, it's just business. When FF 14 happened, no one in the main stream gaming press caught wind. The only articles shown, at least on the forums, were blogs and niche sites that would in no real way constitute publicity. No one is going to bother writing about a game that averages less than 2000 players on in ant given day. Did you see anyone bother to write about the new updates besides a few Dust centric blogs? Games are born and die daily without you being aware. Publicity is not at all a concern. Level Cap Gaming who currently has 1.3 million subscribers covered project Legion after FF14, the video currently has over 132,000 views. I'm not at my computer atm or I would post the link for you. Does'nt really matter, I stopped listening after you said publicity isn't imprtant anyways. I listed reasons why, in this instance, publicity didn't matter. It was not meant as a generality that it never mattered ever. That being said, I would be interested in the article as I was either unaware of it, or unaware of their number of subscribers. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
DUST Fiend 18	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:51:00 - [57] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: One Eyed King wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Why don't EVE players like us? They should be worshipping us as we add more variety to their universe, or at least we were supposed to... We add a negligable percentage to a minor part of their game, and they can drop extremely boring orbitals on us if they want to jump through hoops to do so. We're barely connected to EVE in spirit, we don't even have racial parity 4 years into the game. 10 Year Plan Laser Focused WoD 514
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 279	Posted - 2016.01.20 21:52:00 - [58] - Quote Lucifalic wrote: If people just leave/stop playing due to there being no update or no communication then they will **** off less people when the servers are shut down. Less pissed off people means less bad PR for their other products Exactly. That's why they're using this strategy.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 279	Posted - 2016.01.20 22:01:00 - [59] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: One Eyed King wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Why don't EVE players like us? They should be worshipping us as we add more variety to their universe, or at least we were supposed to... They don't like us because they don't like the concept. To them, EvE is about spaceships, commerce, corporations, empires, huge battles and wars that can last days, weeks, even months, alliances that change the shape of New Eden. Dust is nothing but a hindrance to them because they see it as resources that were drawn away from EvE when they want EvE to be better. Even is already an order of magnitude (or more) better than Dust in almost every way you want to look at it. But that doesn't stop them wanting more. As far as they are concerned, CCP exists for the benefit of EvE.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 279	Posted - 2016.01.20 22:02:00 - [60] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: One Eyed King wrote: General Vahzz wrote: Nobody even knows about us, except EVEtards, and even then they wish to see us wiped off the face of existence. Exactly. If there is any publicity at all with regards to Dust's death, EVE players will likely take it as a positive, and they greatly outnumber us. Net positive. Why don't EVE players like us? They should be worshipping us as we add more variety to their universe, or at least we were supposed to... Couple reasons. We are not on the PC, main point. We are on the PS3, which sucks; side main point. PC Master Race; other side big main point. So they're salty that another side of the gaming community gets a chance at their universe basically? Yes. They want CCP to concentrate on EvE.



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