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DeathwindRising
Second-Nature Shadow of Dust
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Posted - 2016.01.17 05:26:00 -
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It's 2016 and some of us are still here. Overall, things are falling apart. Mass disconnects are becoming more frequent, and Frame rate issues are still plaguing us. Lag of course is still here, but really what im concerned most about is the rampant and borderline common use of Officer gear in pub matches. And also the jump mods.
Officer gear was supposed to be rare. It's not. You can't play one match without someone running Officer gear these days. Can you look into usage data for officer gear?
I'm not sure, but you guys didn't plan game and weapon balance under the assumption that officer gear would become common did you? The gear is by design, op, and now new players are facing vets without access to these items. They can't compete. I was under the assumption that officer gear was for the highest levels of play, such as in a tournament, but stomping noobs in pubs with it? How is officer gear balanced when it's frequent and common?
Please review game design and balance for Dust 514. |
Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.17 05:32:00 -
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I've played many matches without officer gear in them.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2016.01.17 05:44:00 -
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See here.
Removing the passive generation of officer gear was one of our biggest goals as newly elected CPM members. We felt it was a bad idea to allow dozens and dozens of weapons to be generated freely by every player and his/her alts.
We argued and pleaded with CCP to change the system, and eventually they agreed. You can contend that it was too little too late, but we got to it as soon as we had the power to do so.
CPM2: We didn't start this fire
Why does everyone fellatiate darth?! -Aeon Amadi
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DeathwindRising
Second-Nature Shadow of Dust
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Posted - 2016.01.17 06:06:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:See here.Removing the passive generation of officer gear was one of our biggest goals as newly elected CPM members. We felt it was a bad idea to allow dozens and dozens of weapons to be generated freely by every player and his/her alts. We argued and pleaded with CCP to change the system, and eventually they agreed. You can contend that it was too little too late, but we got to it as soon as we had the power to do so.
I know. I think you should have gone further though, and wiped everyones officer gear. Assign an ISK value to each item and then compensate players for items removed.
Set things right. |
Apoleon II
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Posted - 2016.01.17 06:16:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:See here.Removing the passive generation of officer gear was one of our biggest goals as newly elected CPM members. We felt it was a bad idea to allow dozens and dozens of weapons to be generated freely by every player and his/her alts. We argued and pleaded with CCP to change the system, and eventually they agreed. You can contend that it was too little too late, but we got to it as soon as we had the power to do so. I know. I think you should have gone further though, and wiped everyones officer gear. Assign an ISK value to each item and then compensate players for items removed. Set things right.
Lol, so much hate
Sorry for my bad english :$
Port dust, ps5 next gen
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DeathwindRising
Second-Nature Shadow of Dust
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Posted - 2016.01.17 09:41:00 -
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it's not hate. it's doing what needs to be done. CCP messed up with their handling of passive ISK generation in PC, and they did it again with passive generation of officer gear.
they havent learned that sometimes when you screw up, you need to go back and make corrections. |
Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415
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Posted - 2016.01.17 12:10:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:See here.Removing the passive generation of officer gear was one of our biggest goals as newly elected CPM members. We felt it was a bad idea to allow dozens and dozens of weapons to be generated freely by every player and his/her alts. We argued and pleaded with CCP to change the system, and eventually they agreed. You can contend that it was too little too late, but we got to it as soon as we had the power to do so. How about a CPM Update on the Biomassed podcast tonight. You could talk about all the things that you have done from election to present that have been released to the community. |
V1RONXSS
X-SENSE Security
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Posted - 2016.01.17 13:16:00 -
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So you used out all your stocks of officer gear and now complayning? ;] And pls stop compare it in any way to EVE, TTK in fps is to short to carry about.
o7
"Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack.
o7
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
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Posted - 2016.01.17 16:01:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:See here.Removing the passive generation of officer gear was one of our biggest goals as newly elected CPM members. We felt it was a bad idea to allow dozens and dozens of weapons to be generated freely by every player and his/her alts. We argued and pleaded with CCP to change the system, and eventually they agreed. You can contend that it was too little too late, but we got to it as soon as we had the power to do so. I know. I think you should have gone further though, and wiped everyones officer gear. Assign an ISK value to each item and then compensate players for items removed. Set things right. ^this
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Steam - Heimpai
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Apoleon II
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Posted - 2016.01.17 16:45:00 -
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What? The idk from p0rn child is completely right, is a corporation after all CORP for the love of quaifu
Sorry for my bad english :$
Port dust, ps5 next gen
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.17 16:48:00 -
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Flies his officer dropship with officer turrets
Oh wait.
If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2016.01.17 17:06:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:
I know. I think you should have gone further though, and wiped everyones officer gear. Assign an ISK value to each item and then compensate players for items removed.
Set things right.
The tears are strong with this one please do continue. I there's not enough salt in my bathwater.
I have no gun game.
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Bradric Banewolf
Eternal Beings I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2016.01.17 17:26:00 -
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OP is right, and you guys know it!
I know guys breaking into the 100's of officer suit or weapons?! Either bought or alt farmed. Hell I just sold 50+ Balac's, 50+ Krin's, and about 20 Kalente's just last night smh?! I don't even collect like that, and I have that many?! That was just a friendly stash from guys being generous smh?!
I like the officer suits as much as the next man, but they should be rare. Not so abundant that guys are running them in ambush of all places jeez
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2016.01.17 17:38:00 -
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I have 500 nanaki.... Hell it's basically a BPO
But I buy for the sake of collecting... Others buy to just pwn kids... It's annoying.
Then they feel good for a 30 and 2 game... But fail to realize how many of that 30 was not proto/officer...
Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.17 17:39:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:I have 500 nanaki.... Hell it's basically a BPO
But I buy for the sake of collecting... Others buy to just pwn kids... It's annoying. I only buy officer gear for PC and nothing else.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
624
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Posted - 2016.01.17 17:42:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:I have 500 nanaki.... Hell it's basically a BPO
But I buy for the sake of collecting... Others buy to just pwn kids... It's annoying. I only buy officer gear for PC and nothing else.
Makes sense.
...... Wanna buy something?
Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.17 17:50:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:I have 500 nanaki.... Hell it's basically a BPO
But I buy for the sake of collecting... Others buy to just pwn kids... It's annoying. I only buy officer gear for PC and nothing else. Makes sense. ...... Wanna buy something? Nah, I got enough.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2016.01.17 17:52:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:I have 500 nanaki.... Hell it's basically a BPO
But I buy for the sake of collecting... Others buy to just pwn kids... It's annoying. I only buy officer gear for PC and nothing else. Makes sense. ...... Wanna buy something? Nah, I got enough. Want isks? I'll trade isks for nanaki's.
Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
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Mortishai Belmont
Second-Nature Shadow of Dust
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Posted - 2016.01.17 18:13:00 -
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I love it when the enemy uses a lot of officer stuff, it helps to pad my paycheck when I stomp them.
(~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
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DeathwindRising
Second-Nature Shadow of Dust
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Posted - 2016.01.17 18:17:00 -
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i have officer gear. ive got plenty of balac ck.0's and frames and RR's, magsecs, bolt pistols, and sniper rifles, plus other stuff that i just trade or sell cause i dont use it. this isnt a post from a guy who ran out of officer gear. Im posting this because i have more gear than i can use and i know other have more than i do, which is the problem im pointing out.
ive got enough balac' ck.0 to run in pubs and not care, and frames for days. thats a problem, even though i hardly run officer gear out of spite. |
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DeathwindRising
Second-Nature Shadow of Dust
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Posted - 2016.01.17 18:21:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:I have 500 nanaki.... Hell it's basically a BPO
But I buy for the sake of collecting... Others buy to just pwn kids... It's annoying. I only buy officer gear for PC and nothing else.
i almost got in trouble for running apex in a pc lol... until they saw me murdering fools lol. but yea some FC's will order everyone into officer gear right from the start. how are new corps and players supposed to break into PC against corps like that?
EDIT:
if we had a true player market, the prices for officer gear would be rock bottom by now if we could see just how much gear is floating around |
grongle hasworth
Wolf Pack Special Forces
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Posted - 2016.01.17 18:24:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:See here.Removing the passive generation of officer gear was one of our biggest goals as newly elected CPM members. We felt it was a bad idea to allow dozens and dozens of weapons to be generated freely by every player and his/her alts. We argued and pleaded with CCP to change the system, and eventually they agreed. You can contend that it was too little too late, but we got to it as soon as we had the power to do so. question could you make it to where we could control what weapons it will make but it costs more and takes twice as long to make said amount.
pending...
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Crimson ShieId
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2016.01.17 18:39:00 -
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Officer gear might have been uncommon before player trading and the warbarge (The second of which only became a problem for those farming alts) but that doesn't mean it was rare. People stockpiled things like that and just rarely used them. It wasn't worth making a new fitting for most players when you had a finite supply, say... 50-100 of something, unless you really enjoyed that weapon, especially before the second resupply option was added that let you only resupply what you were missing during battle. I've had tons of officer weapons for ages, nearly in the triple digits for a few of the rifles and could have been using them like candy at any time (Mind you, this is WAY before player trading and the warbarge were ever a thing) but I didn't feel like bothering (Though I still saw other players using them in pubs occasionally, especially when they thought they were winning and wouldn't lose them)
CCP would never wipe assets like that though, as some of those officer weapons/suits are tournament won and can't even be salvaged anymore. Not only that, but players would just get back to trading again as soon they could, so to remove this "overabundance" of officer weapons and suits, you'd have to eliminate player trading for officer gear, wipe everyone's Isk, all assets and officer gear included from said assets or the cycle would simply begin anew within a few days/weeks... This game would flounder and lose most of the players it had left at that point, and given the mass of glitches it has, the lack of an ad campaign by CCP, and the plethora of other, better games on the market at the moment, it would probably never recover from that loss.
What? Am I mad? Why do you ask?
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
627
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Posted - 2016.01.17 18:42:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:i have officer gear. ive got plenty of balac ck.0's and frames and RR's, magsecs, bolt pistols, and sniper rifles, plus other stuff that i just trade or sell cause i dont use it. this isnt a post from a guy who ran out of officer gear. Im posting this because i have more gear than i can use and i know other have more than i do, which is the problem im pointing out.
ive got enough balac' ck.0 to run in pubs and not care, and frames for days. thats a problem, even though i hardly run officer gear out of spite.
Wanna sell some magsex?
I know what you mean though... It's odd knowing you can potentially run officer like it's basic. Especially if you have the isk/assests to support it
Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2016.01.17 18:44:00 -
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The very idea that rarity justifies and balances officer gear's OP powers is flawed.
Only cases when that has been enough in both Eve and Dust are the exclusive tournament rewards.
"Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!"
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Yoda Boss
Dem Durrty Boyz
526
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Posted - 2016.01.17 18:47:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:See here.Removing the passive generation of officer gear was one of our biggest goals as newly elected CPM members. We felt it was a bad idea to allow dozens and dozens of weapons to be generated freely by every player and his/her alts. We argued and pleaded with CCP to change the system, and eventually they agreed. You can contend that it was too little too late, but we got to it as soon as we had the power to do so.
This was a great idea. Just too late.
Random:
[ Remember that one day ambush was paying out 1-4 million isk a match lmao. Another time when you used up all your sp and they gave you a sh-ít ton of sp. I remember kids posting pictures of receiving 7 million sp in one shot. Mistakes they make will never be fixed ]
Gÿå
Not going to lie. I have a stockpile of officer gear. But I was buy it up whenever I had the chance. I honestly like the trading aspects of this game more then the game itself. Can't lag trades.
Gÿå
You can do anything in this game and they won't care. Lie cheat steal farm kill. Killing is ok. But the second you talk sh-ít about ccp... WAAAAAPOOOWWW! Duke launches a BANHAMMER at your face. I know. I might be on my 3rd or 4th one lol. (Forum ban)
Gÿå
Can we turn down the AR coming from the mobile factory. Poops out some type of experimental ar 50% of the time. I use ar but... I'm done.
Man, I'm lit.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒGû¬.°n+í¤GÿåGùÅ.° GÖñGÖíTrade/saleGÖºGÖñ
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2016.01.17 18:53:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:i have officer gear. ive got plenty of balac ck.0's and frames and RR's, magsecs, bolt pistols, and sniper rifles, plus other stuff that i just trade or sell cause i dont use it. this isnt a post from a guy who ran out of officer gear. Im posting this because i have more gear than i can use and i know other have more than i do, which is the problem im pointing out.
ive got enough balac' ck.0 to run in pubs and not care, and frames for days. thats a problem, even though i hardly run officer gear out of spite.
Is this an offer to sell your stuff cause I'm always looking for new stock for my shop. If you really don't want your stuff sell it to me.
I have no gun game.
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DozersMouse XIII
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2016.01.17 18:54:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:It's 2016 and some of us are still here. Overall, things are falling apart. Mass disconnects are becoming more frequent, and Frame rate issues are still plaguing us. Lag of course is still here, but really what im concerned most about is the rampant and borderline common use of Officer gear in pub matches. And also the jump mods.
Officer gear was supposed to be rare. It's not. You can't play one match without someone running Officer gear these days. Can you look into usage data for officer gear?
I'm not sure, but you guys didn't plan game and weapon balance under the assumption that officer gear would become common did you? The gear is by design, op, and now new players are facing vets without access to these items. They can't compete. I was under the assumption that officer gear was for the highest levels of play, such as in a tournament, but stomping noobs in pubs with it? How is officer gear balanced when it's frequent and common?
Please review game design and balance for Dust 514. these weapons have been around since the beginning
It's player trading that made them more disposable these days.
Before player trading I had around 500 Total officer weapons and hardly ever dared using them. Since player trading I now have over 25 thousand and I will run them whenever I please. What else are you supposed to spend hundreds if not billions of accumulated isk on?
addicted to the Kubo's GMK-16 banana cannon
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DozersMouse XIII
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
1
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Posted - 2016.01.17 18:58:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:I love it when the enemy uses a lot of officer stuff, it helps to pad my paycheck when I stomp them. This.
addicted to the Kubo's GMK-16 banana cannon
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2016.01.17 19:06:00 -
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Yarrrrrrrrrrr
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