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I fly an incubus witha damage mod, a light complex rep , and a complex hardener for dogfighting.

A good pilot will know whathe /she' up against and adjust accordingly

The damage mod is really fun for killing tanks or catching dropships by surprise but without being able to maintain elevation I find no AB Incubus fits always fall short in dogfights. But, considering how little competition is in the air these days, that seems to be less of a weakness now.

it works great if you know how to boom n zoom.

1) attack from a higher altitude: climb well above before your attack run
2) maintain speed: do not turn sharply enough to where your stick shudder30
3) use that speed to climb and get the altitude advantage again

I have other fits depending on the threat level, but this works great most of the time against anything but your proto incubus

I am a tad biased just cuz I take pride in not getting taken off guard too much by other Incubus pilots, I get VERY upset with myself if I get much into armor from a surprise attack. I do the same thing these days with swarms as prolific as they are, I circle around at mid to high altitude, check the skies for threats, then find a nice juicy target and dive.

It is definitely a shame how many less pilots there are these days, I for one think it's the one thing that makes this game special, but again, complete ******* bias I assure you.

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DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2016.01.08 16:59:00 - [1] - Quote I really have no idea what I'm doing back here, but for the 3 remaining pilots, what fits do you use for ADS? INCUBUS Complex Afterburner Complex Light Armor Repairer Complex Armor Hardener Complex 60mm Armor Plates 20GJ Particle Cannon PYTHON Complex Light Shield Booster Complex Shield Hardener Enhanced Heavy Shield Extender Complex Powergrid Upgrade AT-1 Missile Launcher It's pretty sad how much costomization was taken from vehicle operators, just curious if anyone runs anything different or if we all kinda just run the same thing since there's so little wiggle room now. If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2016.01.08 17:22:00 - [2] - Quote I just finally skilled into ads last night... I have a lot of fun flying a grimsnes, thought I would see if ads is all it seems to be. Your inky fit seems legit, so I'll be trying it out. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 10	Posted - 2016.01.08 17:23:00 - [3] - Quote Plasma Cannon rounds and Swarms fit nicely on pythons. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Shart Machine Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 83	Posted - 2016.01.08 17:50:00 - [4] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Plasma Cannon rounds and Swarms fit nicely on pythons. As do minor flux strikes. [#makeDustwheelchairaccessible]
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2016.01.08 18:10:00 - [5] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Plasma Cannon rounds and Swarms fit nicely on pythons. So long as you don't stick around too long swarms usually won't kill you, though getting tossed into buildings is still a thing. PLC is only a threat if I'm hovering and I generally just assume I'm going to get one shot by a railgun when I hover lol. If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
Dreis ShadowWeaver Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 8	Posted - 2016.01.08 18:22:00 - [6] - Quote Python: Enhanced Heavy Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Hardener x2 Complex PG Upgrade AT-1 Missile Launcher RIP Nova Knifers United RIP Abstract Requiem I suck at keeping things alive :'(
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2016.01.08 18:24:00 - [7] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Python: Enhanced Heavy Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Hardener x2 Complex PG Upgrade AT-1 Missile Launcher My only issue with that is if you get hit before you're able to put your hardeners on, you lose a lot of your potential tank with no way to recover it. Definitely a good option for trying to clear out a rooftop area though. If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
Dreis Shadowweaver Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 8	Posted - 2016.01.08 18:29:00 - [8] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Python: Enhanced Heavy Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Hardener x2 Complex PG Upgrade AT-1 Missile Launcher My only issue with that is if you get hit before you're able to put your hardeners on, you lose a lot of your potential tank with no way to recover it. Definitely a good option for trying to clear out a rooftop area though. I always alternate the Hardeners, so I'm nearly always Hardened. My issue with the Booster fits is that 'Why would you active a Booster to get yourself at full Shields then activate your Hardeners, when you could be Hardened pretty much all the time from the outset?' Unless you're running Hardener first then Booster when your Shields go down and you're still Hardened, in which case I would say 'What are you gonna do when your Hardener goes?' Besides, the 900 HP the Booster restores you is pretty minuscule. RIP Nova Knifers United RIP Abstract Requiem I suck at keeping things alive :'(
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2016.01.08 18:35:00 - [9] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Python: Enhanced Heavy Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Hardener x2 Complex PG Upgrade AT-1 Missile Launcher My only issue with that is if you get hit before you're able to put your hardeners on, you lose a lot of your potential tank with no way to recover it. Definitely a good option for trying to clear out a rooftop area though. I always alternate the Hardeners, so I'm nearly always Hardened. My issue with the Booster fits is that 'Why would you active a Booster to get yourself at full Shields then activate your Hardeners, when you could be Hardened pretty much all the time from the outset?' Unless you're running Hardener first then Booster when your Shields go down and you're still Hardened, in which case I would say 'What are you gonna do when your Hardener goes?' Besides, the 900 HP the Booster restores you is pretty minuscule. Well if you only have one hardener active most of the time, the shield booster ends up being superior depending on when you're hit. Your fit would probably handle surprise hits better unless you get hit on the CD between the two hardeners, but mine has restoration in mind. Basically I try to harden before entering a hostile area, this would put me on the same level as your fit. The difference though is that at around 50-40% shields I will pop my booster to get back to full, where as your fit would still be at low health with no way to jump start shield regen. It's also a nice safety net for when you get knocked into stuff but don't die, getting those 900 shields back has definitely saved my butt. I guess it comes down to preference, I like being down in the thick of things when I can so having something to cover my ass on the way out just works best for my playstyle. If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
Cronar Stenovich TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS 10	Posted - 2016.01.08 23:11:00 - [10] - Quote Incubus Complex 120mm Plate Complex Light Rep Complex PG Upgrade Enhanced Afterburner Particle Cannon Particle Cannon

Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 584	Posted - 2016.01.09 01:12:00 - [11] - Quote Your incubi anger me. In the life of Air to Air... Hardeners are a sad thing to have. You can only challenge once hard, and gotta retreat when soft. Imho... That fit isn't very air to air situated. -> i mainly air to air and run as soon as i hear swarms. Kinda biased lol Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2016.01.09 01:32:00 - [12] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: Your incubi anger me. In the life of Air to Air... Hardeners are a sad thing to have. You can only challenge once hard, and gotta retreat when soft. Imho... That fit isn't very air to air situated. -> i mainly air to air and run as soon as i hear swarms. Kinda biased lol I used to agree with you and ran Heavy plate light rep pretty much exclusively, but I've since gotten REALLY good at breaking LOS of attacking ships so I get way more mileage out of my hardener. I'm pretty good at maintaining a lock too since I have a pretty good feel of how far I can fall while upside down. With no hardener you're just really easy to slice through if you don't constantly break my lock as well. Also for some reason pilots constantly fall for my traps and follow me to elevation cuz they think I'm running The most trouble I usually have is Incubi with a good side gunner, it's much harder to break LOS against them and find a vulnerable point to attack from. If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 584	Posted - 2016.01.09 01:40:00 - [13] - Quote Incubus (Air to Air, pro) 3 reps, comp AB, particle cann. My secret fit Incubus (cheap pub) 2 basic heavy 1 basic 60MM Enhanced AB Particle Accel Python(general purpose) Enhanced heavy extend Comp light shield boost Comp AB AT's, XT's when i have to. Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 584	Posted - 2016.01.09 01:44:00 - [14] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: Your incubi anger me. In the life of Air to Air... Hardeners are a sad thing to have. You can only challenge once hard, and gotta retreat when soft. Imho... That fit isn't very air to air situated. -> i mainly air to air and run as soon as i hear swarms. Kinda biased lol I used to agree with you and ran Heavy plate light rep pretty much exclusively, but I've since gotten REALLY good at breaking LOS of attacking ships so I get way more mileage out of my hardener. I'm pretty good at maintaining a lock too since I have a pretty good feel of how far I can fall while upside down. With no hardener you're just really easy to slice through if you don't constantly break my lock as well. Also for some reason pilots constantly fall for my traps and follow me to elevation cuz they think I'm running The most trouble I usually have is Incubi with a good side gunner, it's much harder to break LOS against them and find a vulnerable point to attack from. Thats what reps are fooor!! Keep moving, rep while they miss. OUH but i know exactly what you mean. They hit the ceiling then you just 11 shot em... I do that to missile incubi everytime. If i see you ingame.... Do me a favor... 1v1? Shoot to kill? Incubi w/ a gunner is a PAIN. Surprise attack is like the only way... Then just stay on their weak side :D 2 gunners is where you'll have to make history. Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2016.01.09 02:33:00 - [15] - Quote I fly an incubus witha damage mod, a light complex rep , and a complex hardener for dogfighting. A good pilot will know whathe /she' up against and adjust accordingly Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. "I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2016.01.09 02:49:00 - [16] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: I fly an incubus witha damage mod, a light complex rep , and a complex hardener for dogfighting. A good pilot will know whathe /she' up against and adjust accordingly The damage mod is really fun for killing tanks or catching dropships by surprise but without being able to maintain elevation I find no AB Incubus fits always fall short in dogfights. But, considering how little competition is in the air these days, that seems to be less of a weakness now. If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
Apoleon II Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 97	Posted - 2016.01.09 02:57:00 - [17] - Quote 2 or 3 shield hardeners and you are immune in pythons, you can use 3 at the same time, the only problem is your aim skill Sorry for my bad english :$
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2016.01.09 03:09:00 - [18] - Quote Apoleon II wrote: 2 or 3 shield hardeners and you are immune in pythons, you can use 3 at the same time, the only problem is your aim skill Edit: I use all the hardeners at the same time, short time to kill, but the 96% damage reduction is sweet I would use that to clear rooftops but I fly like a madman and I try to spend as much time engaging things as I can. I wouldn't trust all that time on cooldown lol. Mostly cuz of douchebag Incubus pilots like me who prey on Pythons If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.01.09 04:06:00 - [19] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Joel II X wrote: Plasma Cannon rounds and Swarms fit nicely on pythons. So long as you don't stick around too long swarms usually won't kill you, though getting tossed into buildings is still a thing. PLC is only a threat if I'm hovering and I generally just assume I'm going to get one shot by a railgun when I hover lol. Yeah, that's the only thing that pisses me off. I made a thread the other day after flying low to evade Railgun fire only to have a random ADV swarm volley flip me sideways in midair and send me tumbling across the ground before exploding. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2016.01.09 04:10:00 - [20] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Joel II X wrote: Plasma Cannon rounds and Swarms fit nicely on pythons. So long as you don't stick around too long swarms usually won't kill you, though getting tossed into buildings is still a thing. PLC is only a threat if I'm hovering and I generally just assume I'm going to get one shot by a railgun when I hover lol. Yeah, that's the only thing that pisses me off. I made a thread the other day after flying low to evade Railgun fire only to have a random ADV swarm volley flip me sideways in midair and send me tumbling across the ground before exploding. Whenever I fly low I try to cut thrust just in case of swarms, getting hit while you're giving it thrust seems to send you catapulting with the impact :/ I don't mind, it's usually an amusing way to die at least, better than suicide dropships at least. If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.

Mejt0 Made in Poland... Devil's Descendants 2	Posted - 2016.01.09 07:04:00 - [21] - Quote I would say Shield, Hardener and Booster for python when you fly around more, you are more mobile. Though 2-3 hardeners setup is rocking when you need to kill roof top guys. You are simply immune for some time and cooldowns are not that bad. I use : Incubus Complex Light Repairer 2x Complex Hardner Enhanced / Complex Afterburner XT missiles You can choose anytime to go either for constant hardening or more durable double hardening. Python Either Shield, Hard, Booster or 2-3 hardeners. Ps. I prefer second hardener over a plate because with a plate you have only one option (it is something similar to 2 hards) while 2 hards give you 2 options. Occasionally playing Dust Changed my path (from slayer) to Pilot Happy Hunting
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2016.01.09 09:52:00 - [22] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: I fly an incubus witha damage mod, a light complex rep , and a complex hardener for dogfighting. A good pilot will know whathe /she' up against and adjust accordingly The damage mod is really fun for killing tanks or catching dropships by surprise but without being able to maintain elevation I find no AB Incubus fits always fall short in dogfights. But, considering how little competition is in the air these days, that seems to be less of a weakness now. it works great if you know how to boom n zoom. 1) attack from a higher altitude: climb well above before your attack run 2) maintain speed: do not turn sharply enough to where your stick shudder30 3) use that speed to climb and get the altitude advantage again I have other fits depending on the threat level, but this works great most of the time against anything but your proto incubus Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. "I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2016.01.09 10:03:00 - [23] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: I fly an incubus witha damage mod, a light complex rep , and a complex hardener for dogfighting. A good pilot will know whathe /she' up against and adjust accordingly The damage mod is really fun for killing tanks or catching dropships by surprise but without being able to maintain elevation I find no AB Incubus fits always fall short in dogfights. But, considering how little competition is in the air these days, that seems to be less of a weakness now. it works great if you know how to boom n zoom. 1) attack from a higher altitude: climb well above before your attack run 2) maintain speed: do not turn sharply enough to where your stick shudder30 3) use that speed to climb and get the altitude advantage again I have other fits depending on the threat level, but this works great most of the time against anything but your proto incubus I am a tad biased just cuz I take pride in not getting taken off guard too much by other Incubus pilots, I get VERY upset with myself if I get much into armor from a surprise attack. I do the same thing these days with swarms as prolific as they are, I circle around at mid to high altitude, check the skies for threats, then find a nice juicy target and dive. It is definitely a shame how many less pilots there are these days, I for one think it's the one thing that makes this game special, but again, complete ******* bias I assure you. If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2016.01.09 14:43:00 - [24] - Quote I haven't played in over a month and my memory recall isn't what it used to be. I don't even remember if the ADS has one or two off slots. The following is either true or I'm thinking of my tank off slots. Pretty sure I'm thinking right about two off slots. INCUBUS 2 enhanced scanners Complex Light Armor Repairer 2 Complex or Enhanced Armor Hardeners Lol plates Any standard turret, even blaster when I just want to laugh and have fun. A blaster may not hit worth a damn, but it still forces people to move. Great constant area of denial fire. Still scares people off rooftops. You've got to strafe back and forth to actually register a hit. No kills, but plenty of pants wetting action. I constantly move and circle around and fly in and out to evade. The afterburner really doesn't do me any good. PYTHON 2 Enhanced or Complex Shield Hardeners Complex scanner Complex Powergrid Upgrade Armor plate - you wouldn't believe what this thing has done for survival. I then rep up at a depot or use a rep tool. AT-1 Missile Launcher, but usually a standard launcher. I have seen no difference other than fitting. I use speed and constant movement to evade fire. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2016.01.09 14:54:00 - [25] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: I fly an incubus witha damage mod, a light complex rep , and a complex hardener for dogfighting. A good pilot will know whathe /she' up against and adjust accordingly The damage mod is really fun for killing tanks or catching dropships by surprise but without being able to maintain elevation I find no AB Incubus fits always fall short in dogfights. But, considering how little competition is in the air these days, that seems to be less of a weakness now. it works great if you know how to boom n zoom. 1) attack from a higher altitude: climb well above before your attack run 2) maintain speed: do not turn sharply enough to where your stick shudder30 3) use that speed to climb and get the altitude advantage again I have other fits depending on the threat level, but this works great most of the time against anything but your proto incubus I am a tad biased just cuz I take pride in not getting taken off guard too much by other Incubus pilots, I get VERY upset with myself if I get much into armor from a surprise attack. I do the same thing these days with swarms as prolific as they are, I circle around at mid to high altitude, check the skies for threats, then find a nice juicy target and dive. It is definitely a shame how many less pilots there are these days, I for one think it's the one thing that makes this game special, but again, complete ******* bias I assure you. Yeah, CCP made this game even more a situation where support fire amd mobility mean nothing ro just spawning and camping the objectives. The idea of beinging tanks and other support to the objective to cause an escalation by the other team didn't work. I agree with that to some extent because ai like to play a specific thing and hate to swap up just to power play a win. On the other hand it makes people whine and they just don't escalate with counters so things get nerfed. Since isk and sp is a factoe it only added to the non-event which is escalation. I stopped caring about PC when I saw how easy it was for people to lock everybody out and keep an elitist attitude for who gets to play. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2016.01.09 14:59:00 - [26] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Joel II X wrote: Plasma Cannon rounds and Swarms fit nicely on pythons. So long as you don't stick around too long swarms usually won't kill you, though getting tossed into buildings is still a thing. PLC is only a threat if I'm hovering and I generally just assume I'm going to get one shot by a railgun when I hover lol. You've got to do a test run and test the situation as the match progresses, then come around and do a hover strike if all seems clear. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2016.01.09 15:27:00 - [27] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Joel II X wrote: Plasma Cannon rounds and Swarms fit nicely on pythons. So long as you don't stick around too long swarms usually won't kill you, though getting tossed into buildings is still a thing. PLC is only a threat if I'm hovering and I generally just assume I'm going to get one shot by a railgun when I hover lol. You've got to do a test run and test the situation as the match progresses, then come around and do a hover strike if all seems clear. Well see that's why I almost always open up the match in my rail incubus, to clear turrets and deny vehicles and get a feel for the AV presence already on the field. AV Incubus only slows down to finish off a target, so it's a lot safer for gaining info. Once I feel resistance is weak enough, I'll switch to my Python to rain hell on all the little ants If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 591	Posted - 2016.01.09 15:38:00 - [28] - Quote Well... Make/join an ADS chat... It's like all the DS pilots are all divided. One thing i did realize though... ADS pilots have the most respect to each other. Infantry on infantry: "scrub! You and your cheap internet! Lagging your way to victory! Damn jap or mexican" Tank pilot on tank pilot: tank goes to redRail or "fck you, I'll hop out my tank w/ alldins" and tank pilots curse each other out for no reason... Kill true ADS pilot: "nice flying you got there.." and have a couple messages exchanged talking about their fit or the battle they just had or switches to rail ADS and flirts w/ you for the rest of the match Most mature group of people in dust. We just simply respect your skill cause dammn we know it takes dedication to become good with it. Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
FaustNeo Prima Gallicus 23	Posted - 2016.01.09 18:37:00 - [29] - Quote I think each pilot has is own way to fly and most of the time u need to adapt your fits if u want to survive.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD The Naughty Ninjas 1	Posted - 2016.01.09 18:49:00 - [30] - Quote lets just all take a moment and thank god for the scrubs shooting plasma cannons at ads's. at least theres some scrubby av that a dropship can still laugh at for free kills. Corps: P.R.O.---O.H.---Not Guilty/Pure Innocence---Nyain San---T.o.P.



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