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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.08 16:59:00 -
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I really have no idea what I'm doing back here, but for the 3 remaining pilots, what fits do you use for ADS?
INCUBUS
Complex Afterburner
Complex Light Armor Repairer Complex Armor Hardener Complex 60mm Armor Plates
20GJ Particle Cannon
PYTHON
Complex Light Shield Booster Complex Shield Hardener Enhanced Heavy Shield Extender
Complex Powergrid Upgrade
AT-1 Missile Launcher
It's pretty sad how much costomization was taken from vehicle operators, just curious if anyone runs anything different or if we all kinda just run the same thing since there's so little wiggle room now.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.08 18:10:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Plasma Cannon rounds and Swarms fit nicely on pythons. So long as you don't stick around too long swarms usually won't kill you, though getting tossed into buildings is still a thing. PLC is only a threat if I'm hovering and I generally just assume I'm going to get one shot by a railgun when I hover lol.
If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.08 18:24:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Python:
Enhanced Heavy Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Hardener x2 Complex PG Upgrade
AT-1 Missile Launcher My only issue with that is if you get hit before you're able to put your hardeners on, you lose a lot of your potential tank with no way to recover it. Definitely a good option for trying to clear out a rooftop area though.
If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.08 18:35:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Python:
Enhanced Heavy Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Hardener x2 Complex PG Upgrade
AT-1 Missile Launcher My only issue with that is if you get hit before you're able to put your hardeners on, you lose a lot of your potential tank with no way to recover it. Definitely a good option for trying to clear out a rooftop area though. I always alternate the Hardeners, so I'm nearly always Hardened. My issue with the Booster fits is that 'Why would you active a Booster to get yourself at full Shields then activate your Hardeners, when you could be Hardened pretty much all the time from the outset?' Unless you're running Hardener first then Booster when your Shields go down and you're still Hardened, in which case I would say 'What are you gonna do when your Hardener goes?' Besides, the 900 HP the Booster restores you is pretty minuscule. Well if you only have one hardener active most of the time, the shield booster ends up being superior depending on when you're hit. Your fit would probably handle surprise hits better unless you get hit on the CD between the two hardeners, but mine has restoration in mind.
Basically I try to harden before entering a hostile area, this would put me on the same level as your fit. The difference though is that at around 50-40% shields I will pop my booster to get back to full, where as your fit would still be at low health with no way to jump start shield regen. It's also a nice safety net for when you get knocked into stuff but don't die, getting those 900 shields back has definitely saved my butt.
I guess it comes down to preference, I like being down in the thick of things when I can so having something to cover my ass on the way out just works best for my playstyle.
If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.09 01:32:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Your incubi anger me.
In the life of Air to Air... Hardeners are a sad thing to have. You can only challenge once hard, and gotta retreat when soft.
Imho... That fit isn't very air to air situated.
-> i mainly air to air and run as soon as i hear swarms. Kinda biased lol I used to agree with you and ran Heavy plate light rep pretty much exclusively, but I've since gotten REALLY good at breaking LOS of attacking ships so I get way more mileage out of my hardener. I'm pretty good at maintaining a lock too since I have a pretty good feel of how far I can fall while upside down. With no hardener you're just really easy to slice through if you don't constantly break my lock as well. Also for some reason pilots constantly fall for my traps and follow me to elevation cuz they think I'm running
The most trouble I usually have is Incubi with a good side gunner, it's much harder to break LOS against them and find a vulnerable point to attack from.
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Posted - 2016.01.09 02:49:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:I fly an incubus witha damage mod, a light complex rep , and a complex hardener for dogfighting.
A good pilot will know whathe /she' up against and adjust accordingly The damage mod is really fun for killing tanks or catching dropships by surprise but without being able to maintain elevation I find no AB Incubus fits always fall short in dogfights. But, considering how little competition is in the air these days, that seems to be less of a weakness now.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.09 03:09:00 -
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Apoleon II wrote:2 or 3 shield hardeners and you are immune in pythons, you can use 3 at the same time, the only problem is your aim skill
Edit: I use all the hardeners at the same time, short time to kill, but the 96% damage reduction is sweet I would use that to clear rooftops but I fly like a madman and I try to spend as much time engaging things as I can. I wouldn't trust all that time on cooldown lol. Mostly cuz of douchebag Incubus pilots like me who prey on Pythons
If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
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Posted - 2016.01.09 04:10:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Joel II X wrote:Plasma Cannon rounds and Swarms fit nicely on pythons. So long as you don't stick around too long swarms usually won't kill you, though getting tossed into buildings is still a thing. PLC is only a threat if I'm hovering and I generally just assume I'm going to get one shot by a railgun when I hover lol. Yeah, that's the only thing that pisses me off. I made a thread the other day after flying low to evade Railgun fire only to have a random ADV swarm volley flip me sideways in midair and send me tumbling across the ground before exploding. Whenever I fly low I try to cut thrust just in case of swarms, getting hit while you're giving it thrust seems to send you catapulting with the impact :/ I don't mind, it's usually an amusing way to die at least, better than suicide dropships at least.
If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.09 10:03:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:I fly an incubus witha damage mod, a light complex rep , and a complex hardener for dogfighting.
A good pilot will know whathe /she' up against and adjust accordingly The damage mod is really fun for killing tanks or catching dropships by surprise but without being able to maintain elevation I find no AB Incubus fits always fall short in dogfights. But, considering how little competition is in the air these days, that seems to be less of a weakness now. it works great if you know how to boom n zoom. 1) attack from a higher altitude: climb well above before your attack run 2) maintain speed: do not turn sharply enough to where your stick shudder30 3) use that speed to climb and get the altitude advantage again I have other fits depending on the threat level, but this works great most of the time against anything but your proto incubus I am a tad biased just cuz I take pride in not getting taken off guard too much by other Incubus pilots, I get VERY upset with myself if I get much into armor from a surprise attack. I do the same thing these days with swarms as prolific as they are, I circle around at mid to high altitude, check the skies for threats, then find a nice juicy target and dive.
It is definitely a shame how many less pilots there are these days, I for one think it's the one thing that makes this game special, but again, complete ******* bias I assure you.
If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
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Posted - 2016.01.09 15:27:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Joel II X wrote:Plasma Cannon rounds and Swarms fit nicely on pythons. So long as you don't stick around too long swarms usually won't kill you, though getting tossed into buildings is still a thing. PLC is only a threat if I'm hovering and I generally just assume I'm going to get one shot by a railgun when I hover lol. You've got to do a test run and test the situation as the match progresses, then come around and do a hover strike if all seems clear. Well see that's why I almost always open up the match in my rail incubus, to clear turrets and deny vehicles and get a feel for the AV presence already on the field. AV Incubus only slows down to finish off a target, so it's a lot safer for gaining info. Once I feel resistance is weak enough, I'll switch to my Python to rain hell on all the little ants
If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
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Posted - 2016.01.09 23:23:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:My Python fit (from memory):
Basic Afterburner Complex Heavy Shield Extender Complex Light Shield Booster Complex PG Upgrade
XT-Missile Launchers I'll have to give that one a look at later, looks very hit and run but probably cleans up isolated infantry really well.
If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
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Posted - 2016.01.09 23:31:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Kill true ADS pilot: "nice flying you got there.." and have a couple messages exchanged talking about their fit or the battle they just had or *switches to rail ADS and flirts w/ you for the rest of the match*
Most mature group of people in dust. We just simply respect your skill cause dammn we know it takes dedication to become good with it. Unless they ram. I wouldn't mind ramming even a little bit if 1.)impact were normalized between shields and armor, 2.) impact were based on overall speed of impact and 3.) impact damage were consistent.
Right now you can hit someone full speed and both survive or they can ******* feather tap you from beneath with your hardener up and you explode like a virgin at spring break. Most people who ram with dropships suck and are just easy prey, they're so ******* easy to bait.
If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
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Posted - 2016.01.10 00:40:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Songs of Seraphim wrote:My Python fit (from memory):
Basic Afterburner Complex Heavy Shield Extender Complex Light Shield Booster Complex PG Upgrade
XT-Missile Launchers I'll have to give that one a look at later, looks very hit and run but probably cleans up isolated infantry really well. Drunk me used to have a field day with this whenever I went as an ADS. It could survive a few volleys of swarms. But if there's more than 2 Swarm Launchers shooting you or even a fuckin red-line rail tank, use the Python's high maneuverability. Almost makes me miss the game... Drunk me is NOT allowed to fly. I go up gentle as a moose and come down quite as gracefully.
My time in air hasn't ever lasted over a minute, I always try to pull some crazy ass full afterburner roadkill from a dive or something and I just hurtle into the ground at full speed and explode. Basically without fail.
I vaguely recall being hammered on vodka, getting incredibly focused as I gently brought my bird down near a blueberry to pick him up. Everything was calm. Then I gently put her down at 90mph and promply exploded next to him.
If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
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