Here we are again, waiting, withering.

People keep necromancing dev tagged posts to feel like they are active.

People howling and screaming, literally begging CCP for input.
Look at the loader screen. Do you see anything about 'buy this today!' or a featured fit?

We are aware 1.2 is live... Somewhat...

At first I thought it was because 1.3 was coming. Then it went longer than two weeks.

Did we ever fix the MCC construction yard? Did the ama/min HAV reskin get approved? Power cores? That heavy scrambler Rat was testing?

CONTENT OF ANY KIND WHATSOEVER?

Eve gate is beautiful, but we are below the mobile game even.

Old players getting fed up and leaving. Ps3's dying every week. New players being stomped out by people who have no pc's to play.

I'd like to think since Rattati chastised us for being toxic that we did get a LITTLE better...

But the silence speaks. The walls crumble. The troops begin to feast on each other. This is how the Romans felt.

Will there ever be more?
Will we continue on ps3?
Will we move to ps4?
Is this the end of times?

We came in with a BANG. Must we leave with a whimper?

I know it's a little ranty, but also an honest inquisition. I'm far from the only person to feel this way right now. I love my friends, and my enemies. I love my devs.

I love Dust 514. o7

You know what I tend to notice?

They seem to have a very definitive pattern:

1) Lots of Dev Chatter and talking. Lots of it less serious / joking in nature, but also some focused on data insights, discussions, etc. This is bolstered by CPM involvement.

2) A Few threads (by CPM or CCP) talking about potential features / ideas.

3) Dev chatter dies down.

4) They release a Wallpaper of some DUST thing.

5) More silence (From both CCP / CPM)

6) Explosion of activity from everyone as they announce a new release / hotfix. They give about a week for feedback (or less) then before you know it the thing is released.

7) Repeat.

Right now we seem to be on step 5.

Well I will be very scarce in 4 days when Fallout 4 hits Best Buy for my pre-order.

Ahoy!

We mentioned this before - on multiple occasions and threads actually - that we will not hint, comment on or discuss possible future changes, release dates etc. at all until we actually have something to announce/talk about. No more Rouge weddings

We can understand that this is not ideal either, and we do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We do not want to seem distant or like we do not care - we're here, we're communicating, we care - but we do have strict internal policies about the above.

Ahoy!

We mentioned this before - on multiple occasions and threads actually - that we will not hint, comment on or discuss possible future changes, release dates etc. at all until we actually have something to announce/talk about. No more Rouge weddings

We can understand that this is not ideal either, and we do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We do not want to seem distant or like we do not care - we're here, we're communicating, we care - but we do have strict internal policies about the above.

They remade the eve site, and even though we are at the bottom.

We are still there.

Lights are still on.

Ahoy!

We mentioned this before - on multiple occasions and threads actually - that we will not hint, comment on or discuss possible future changes, release dates etc. at all until we actually have something to announce/talk about. No more Rouge weddings

We can understand that this is not ideal either, and we do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We do not want to seem distant or like we do not care - we're here, we're communicating, we care - but we do have strict internal policies about the above.

Ahoy!

We mentioned this before - on multiple occasions and threads actually - that we will not hint, comment on or discuss possible future changes, release dates etc. at all until we actually have something to announce/talk about. No more Rouge weddings

We can understand that this is not ideal either, and we do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We do not want to seem distant or like we do not care - we're here, we're communicating, we care - but we do have strict internal policies about the above.

I like how they think that announcing something was the problem with the Rouge Wedding.

It certainly had nothing to do with saying they would be abandoning console after repeatedly saying they were laser focused on the PS3 and everything had a 10 year road map.

There is a difference between speaking and doing a complete double back on everything that was said to get people to stick around.


I suppose learning from the past is not all it is cracked up to be when you learn the totally wrong lesson.

To counterpoint,

The issue, if one is to believe CCP, is that incomplete announcement information is the issue. Speaking as a developer of software code is a tricky mistress and often times simple things takes weeks while more complex issues can be resolved with only a few clever lines of code. For any substantially complex piece of software (which games are a part of) it can be... difficult to give anything more than a week or two out of certainty on time tables. This doesn't mean such time tables do not exist, it is just that they can be... wrong.

Things once thought to take two weeks could easily take two months instead. Bugs can crop up that defy reason, and the combined efforts of several brilliant programmers can often weave gorgon knots that become a Lovecraftian Horror. This is to say nothing of those attempting such tasks with lesser skills.

Normally this is combed over by having releases set far apart. Why development on a game takes years. It hides and obfuscates this process from public eye. However once you announce something publicly it is set and stone, more or less, and by that point it better be ready.

Most things that get release dates either do so to 1) Over eager marketing, or 2) A team who is certain their current product is 'releasable' and only needs CR, Testing, and QA work. (Which in itself can take weeks to months to half a year depending on the scope of a project)

CCP, as far as I can tell, is developing the code for the next hotfix / patch right NOW. They are working toward an end goal and may have vague numbers of completion, but nothing close enough to be release ready. Because of this they can't promise anything simply by dint of not knowing how long the remaining effort will take themselves.

So they don't say anything. (Which in itself has proven to be a problem) They don't say anything because they can say nothing. Features may yet be cut in the interests of feasibility, and things may yet make it in. It's not a matter of being malicious or deceitful so much as it is one of not knowing what you can get done until you do it.



For CCP the rogue wedding was everything in that process going wrong. They showed something too early to be able to promise any actual release or progress on, and did so in the worst way possible. Their lack of details (hopefully due to lack of technical know how on it's feasibility) made it seem like our worst fears realized (potentially no character move over, progression that seemed more like a old school MMO class system, and a lack of current features)

Ultimately their lesson learned was to only say what they know they can do, and with their small team and what effort they can reliably put out, that often means only knowing they can do it once it is ready to go.

Ahoy!

We mentioned this before - on multiple occasions and threads actually - that we will not hint, comment on or discuss possible future changes, release dates etc. at all until we actually have something to announce/talk about. No more Rouge weddings

We can understand that this is not ideal either, and we do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We do not want to seem distant or like we do not care - we're here, we're communicating, we care - but we do have strict internal policies about the above.

I like this, and understand fully both you and Duke.

However, a 'we can't say what, and we can't say when, but something awesome is in the stewpot!' post could literally double or daily playerbase.


Edit: and re-open my wallet...

Ahoy!

We mentioned this before - on multiple occasions and threads actually - that we will not hint, comment on or discuss possible future changes, release dates etc. at all until we actually have something to announce/talk about. No more Rouge weddings

We can understand that this is not ideal either, and we do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We do not want to seem distant or like we do not care - we're here, we're communicating, we care - but we do have strict internal policies about the above.

Digital preorder baby!

I'm just gonna put this out there. I predict that Dust 514 will remain as a ps3 exclusive title until Sony no longer provides support for the PS3. Once that happens, the Dust team and all their assets will be dissolved and then CCP can go back to focusing on their primary money making game. There isn't going to be a port of any kind, and valkyrie is our replacement because CCP realized that they should stick to what they know best, and that is spaceships. They haven't pulled the plug yet because they're still getting some money out of us. If they were actually going to keep Dust 514, then we would be included in things like fan fest, or other events that involves CCP's fan base. It's also apparent that any mention of us is an embarrassed mumble and they want to just sweep us under the rug and pretend that we don't exist while at the same time trying to not say it to our faces.

Ahoy!

We mentioned this before - on multiple occasions and threads actually - that we will not hint, comment on or discuss possible future changes, release dates etc. at all until we actually have something to announce/talk about. No more Rouge weddings

We can understand that this is not ideal either, and we do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We do not want to seem distant or like we do not care - we're here, we're communicating, we care - but we do have strict internal policies about the above.

Still irks me that they call it the Rouge Wedding. Poor guy

Ahoy!

We mentioned this before - on multiple occasions and threads actually - that we will not hint, comment on or discuss possible future changes, release dates etc. at all until we actually have something to announce/talk about. No more Rouge weddings

We can understand that this is not ideal either, and we do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We do not want to seem distant or like we do not care - we're here, we're communicating, we care - but we do have strict internal policies about the above.

Hurry up and make Dust for PC I'm getting bored waiting