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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.06 16:18:00 -
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Here we are again, waiting, withering.
People keep necromancing dev tagged posts to feel like they are active.
People howling and screaming, literally begging CCP for input. Look at the loader screen. Do you see anything about 'buy this today!' or a featured fit?
We are aware 1.2 is live... Somewhat...
At first I thought it was because 1.3 was coming. Then it went longer than two weeks.
Did we ever fix the MCC construction yard? Did the ama/min HAV reskin get approved? Power cores? That heavy scrambler Rat was testing?
CONTENT OF ANY KIND WHATSOEVER?
Eve gate is beautiful, but we are below the mobile game even.
Old players getting fed up and leaving. Ps3's dying every week. New players being stomped out by people who have no pc's to play.
I'd like to think since Rattati chastised us for being toxic that we did get a LITTLE better...
But the silence speaks. The walls crumble. The troops begin to feast on each other. This is how the Romans felt.
Will there ever be more? Will we continue on ps3? Will we move to ps4? Is this the end of times?
We came in with a BANG. Must we leave with a whimper?
I know it's a little ranty, but also an honest inquisition. I'm far from the only person to feel this way right now. I love my friends, and my enemies. I love my devs.
I love Dust 514. o7
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.06 17:14:00 -
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There is a pattern, and we are on step five.
But like the rest of the pattern, the timeframe is predictable.
We're on like week five of normally a two-three week cycle. If they are cooking something up, it better be huge. A game changer.
And tbqh, idc about another hotfix. I want content or death.
Look at eve, we will never be balanced.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.06 17:35:00 -
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They remade the eve site, and even though we are at the bottom.
We are still there.
Lights are still on.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.06 17:39:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Ahoy! We mentioned this before - on multiple occasions and threads actually - that we will not hint, comment on or discuss possible future changes, release dates etc. at all until we actually have something to announce/talk about. No more Rouge weddings We can understand that this is not ideal either, and we do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We do not want to seem distant or like we do not care - we're here, we're communicating, we care - but we do have strict internal policies about the above.
Your quick arrival does indeed give me a glimmer of hope.
And I run a business so I understand internal policies.
But what a LOT of us need is simply something like:
"While we can't discuss internal direction, we can assure you. Dust is here for a good while longer."
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.06 18:37:00 -
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It's a paradox.
Dust doesn't grow without profit.
We can't tell if it's growing or dying.
I can't spend money on a game that dies next week.
40 goto 10
Run
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.06 19:13:00 -
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Avallo Kantor wrote:deezy dabest wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Ahoy! We mentioned this before - on multiple occasions and threads actually - that we will not hint, comment on or discuss possible future changes, release dates etc. at all until we actually have something to announce/talk about. No more Rouge weddings We can understand that this is not ideal either, and we do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We do not want to seem distant or like we do not care - we're here, we're communicating, we care - but we do have strict internal policies about the above. I like how they think that announcing something was the problem with the Rouge Wedding. It certainly had nothing to do with saying they would be abandoning console after repeatedly saying they were laser focused on the PS3 and everything had a 10 year road map. There is a difference between speaking and doing a complete double back on everything that was said to get people to stick around. I suppose learning from the past is not all it is cracked up to be when you learn the totally wrong lesson. To counterpoint, The issue, if one is to believe CCP, is that incomplete announcement information is the issue. Speaking as a developer of software code is a tricky mistress and often times simple things takes weeks while more complex issues can be resolved with only a few clever lines of code. For any substantially complex piece of software (which games are a part of) it can be... difficult to give anything more than a week or two out of certainty on time tables. This doesn't mean such time tables do not exist, it is just that they can be... wrong. Things once thought to take two weeks could easily take two months instead. Bugs can crop up that defy reason, and the combined efforts of several brilliant programmers can often weave gorgon knots that become a Lovecraftian Horror. This is to say nothing of those attempting such tasks with lesser skills. Normally this is combed over by having releases set far apart. Why development on a game takes years. It hides and obfuscates this process from public eye. However once you announce something publicly it is set and stone, more or less, and by that point it better be ready. Most things that get release dates either do so to 1) Over eager marketing, or 2) A team who is certain their current product is 'releasable' and only needs CR, Testing, and QA work. (Which in itself can take weeks to months to half a year depending on the scope of a project) CCP, as far as I can tell, is developing the code for the next hotfix / patch right NOW. They are working toward an end goal and may have vague numbers of completion, but nothing close enough to be release ready. Because of this they can't promise anything simply by dint of not knowing how long the remaining effort will take themselves. So they don't say anything. (Which in itself has proven to be a problem) They don't say anything because they can say nothing. Features may yet be cut in the interests of feasibility, and things may yet make it in. It's not a matter of being malicious or deceitful so much as it is one of not knowing what you can get done until you do it. For CCP the rogue wedding was everything in that process going wrong. They showed something too early to be able to promise any actual release or progress on, and did so in the worst way possible. Their lack of details (hopefully due to lack of technical know how on it's feasibility) made it seem like our worst fears realized (potentially no character move over, progression that seemed more like a old school MMO class system, and a lack of current features) Ultimately their lesson learned was to only say what they know they can do, and with their small team and what effort they can reliably put out, that often means only knowing they can do it once it is ready to go.
I like this, and understand fully both you and Duke.
However, a 'we can't say what, and we can't say when, but something awesome is in the stewpot!' post could literally double or daily playerbase.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.06 21:53:00 -
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I'm not trying to be a pokey...
Just very passionate about dust.
It currently feels like, if they don't step up the game. It will fizzle soon.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.06 22:08:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Hurry up and make Dust for PC I'm getting bored waiting
We had a pc port announced.
It didn't go over well.......
I'm going to guess its ps4 or nothing.
Inb4 legion was not dust. Cauuuuse it kinda was o.O
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.07 19:24:00 -
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Duke being so active leads me to believe they are putting a full 40 in weekly.
I honestly didn't intend to birth this monster... Sorry Duke, I knew they were out there and posted anyway, so I guess I asked for it.
If Rattati and gang are being this quiet, something is in the works. Idk.
Too many spawns, my grey matter is wearing thin. Just battle weary is all. We are dying for new content. We've heard we are at the ps3 limit.
We've heard more than we should have tbh...
*sigh*
But helI, while I've got you active.
Tell Rattati I still want a chrome skin lineup, with brushed aluminum trims.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.07 19:54:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:This entire thread proves why I love Archduke...
...you know in the bro kind of way...
...not the whole let's run off and get married kind of way...
...I think I'll just leave now.
He has that effect on people.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.08 01:59:00 -
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*sigh*
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.08 03:03:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:... a game that is already lacking in content ... Find for me a shooter with more content than DUST. The mobile sniper game that I play when I get super bored out of the house really has more content than Dust.
Wow must be super immersive.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.08 16:07:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Ahoy! We mentioned this before - on multiple occasions and threads actually - that we will not hint, comment on or discuss possible future changes, release dates etc. at all until we actually have something to announce/talk about. No more Rouge weddings We can understand that this is not ideal either, and we do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We do not want to seem distant or like we do not care - we're here, we're communicating, we care - but we do have strict internal policies about the above. i think i speak on behalf of everyone when i say 'we dont know what we want but right now another rouge wedding sounds good please Mr duke sir' o7 Now is the time to announce legion...not last year
I have a thread about the L word. You should check it out.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.08 16:52:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=220397&find=unread
Preeeety much sums it up...
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.08 19:57:00 -
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Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Press Attache wrote:GM Archduke wrote:I kind of already implied that there may be something to announce/talk about at some point in the future, don't you think? No, you really didn't. What you did was allow people to infer that there would be something without actually saying anything. It gives you a plausible position to turn around later and claim you didn't say anything. Not communicating the future of the title works when your company is actually making visible progress. How well it works when your product is dog droppings and the whales just want an excuse to spend money I'll let your higher ups tell you how that is working out. That is literally what the word means, man. imply
verb (used with object), implied, implying.
to indicate or suggest without being explicitly statedAnyway. This started out as a thread concerned about the future. Contrary to the popular belief that CCP does not communicate with the players, I popped in and explained the official CCP status on this. Now it's just starting to be aggressive pointing of fingers and pointless repetition of the same arguments that were already discussed dozens of times. I would not be surprised if this thread would get locked sometime soon. sorry,
Yeah, sorry again. Lock it if you want.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.08 20:04:00 -
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And after actually listening to Aeon, the silence actually DOES speak.
And I don't think it's something bad.
I can be dense sometimes
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