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Kaltos Darksbane
Shadow Wolves Inc.
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Posted - 2015.10.10 19:24:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:Kaltos Darksbane wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:There is very little CCP can actually do. its not an illegal program the controllers use or anything, it just presses a button really fast by itself in the controllers circuitry. Unless CCP make dust only work with an officially licensed CCP controller and no other usb/wireless controller then there isn't anythign they can do. its hard to figure out wether a rapid fire mod button is being used or not simply because of lag.
i had chance to use a rapid fire controller bout 18months or so ago and went into faction. shot my buddy with it on and off and because of the lag on his end he died just as quickly each time. So when someone you think fired their weapon a little too fast, it could just be the ping delay catching up. Sure a lot of guys will use them on burst and CR's but they do still jump around a fire bit (i hammered button as fast as possible last night to test kick of the new burst on galass) and tbh the only real benefit you get is less cramp in your trigger finger Not true. What they can do is set a program that notices unhuman firing rhythms and alert proper people inside CCP, who can then dish out apprpriate disciplinary actions upon those players to curb the use of such devices. They would have to be very sure of themselves. Any doubt at all would mean they couldn't pursue the alleged infringement. In fact, even if there is no doubt, they probably still wouldn't pursue it because they couldn't know for sure.
Actually, when you sign the EULA agreement you give up all rights and agree to thier assesments. If they believe its happening you are held guilty and there is no legal recourse for you.
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
289
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Posted - 2015.10.10 21:35:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Kaltos Darksbane wrote:Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant. What do you think they can do about this ? Absolutely nothing. The problem is not about developing a program that detects modded controller as it's pretty easy to do. I just don't think they have the right to stop people from playing with a different hardware. It's illegal to use a software that will modify values in the game, but a hardware that brings those values to their maximum level (by virtually pressing buttons really fast) is allowed. Thus, they don't have the legal right to block them (even if it's BS I grant you that). Why do other developers fight this in major AAA titles ? Why in the forums of other games , the community bans together to put a stop to or have the developers of said titles put a stop to such actions and those games prosper ? Why don't you people want Dust to prosper .?. is it because it's on a console and your one of those PC MASTERRACE types .?. why do you people fight against balancing matchmaking ? Everything that this game needs to bring it in line with other games to create a greater attraction to a larger audience is fought against tooth and nail . You same people cant support this game all by yourselves and that's what's going to end up happening , more people will leave and the people who fought against balancing this game will be all that's left and then , will that make you all happy ? I just can't understand why CCP is allowing you types to rule the game while it suffers in such a state .?. that's what I just can't understand for the life of me . They can do something but they just choose not so for some reason or another . They can create a balanced matchmaking system but for some reason or another they just choose not to and then talk about how constrained they are and the lack of funds and resources . Things are just not adding up . I don't have anything against you because I don't even know you besides your comments on the forums but this game needs help and it's time the community comes together to help and stop hindering this games progression .
Its only fought by the scrubs crutching. Always is.... If you make this games balanced like Halo or COD the free to play model of it falls apart. The guys buying the modded controllers and the KB/M with macros are the same guys that bought the Warbarge to full as soon as its was available. They are cash cows for CCP and if they have a bad user experience (AKA a fair game) they will move on to another game. That is why match making puts noobs in with vets. One is content filler for the other. There is no monetary reason for this game to be balanced. Those new guys have to spend AUR to "catch up" and are inspired to do so by the face punching they get every game. The issue is now is that the platform has fewer users and hence fewer new players, so less guys stay and matches have more leaves because the kids that paid to win really don't want a balanced game. When they see other competition they look for easier pickings. That's why they fight it here.
If you want to see how desperate some of the scrubs are make a friend in the lower MU and sit and watch his games sometime. Watch the 3 man scrub padder fire teams from Third Rock, ECCE, Groupo, Wesker, Glory, War raven, AE, and others squad up with new guys to stomp the crap out of new kids. They are so desperate for that feeling that at this point they stoop to this level everyday. So they will fight you here on the forums to keep that going.
Also, the EULA covers using modified hardware to achieve an advantage. So its well within their right to put a stop to it. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.10 21:56:00 -
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It's a cash grab but who are you gonna grab cash from if there's no one playing but these same that are ruining the game .?. I'm sure that their not going to support this themselves .
It's like decisions that are made are counterproductive for the most part because issues that have been since this games instalment , still exist and they change things that don't need to be changed and wont change the things that do .
I'm taking a break and yeah it will be hard but I'm going to do it because I just cant take this anymore .
This is suppose to be entertainment but it's becoming more and more like stress and frustration .
It would seem more reasonable that if you would just address the issues that hamper the game and stagnate the growth of this game that more people would be attracted to what you have done besides what was and how it has been , a lot of people believe in second chances and would be more then willing to support this game , they say it time and time again but you as a business , can't expect people to support , keep shelling out money and time / effort on something that only a select few get enjoyment from .
I use to give them the benefit of the doubt like I do in a lot of instances in my life but to continue to get smacked in the face while key issues are ignored is just foolish for me to allow this to continue to happen .
How could someone in their right mind support such ?
I now believe it's a cash grab , that's why you see people clamoring for a port all the while the game is in a horrible state and that's not the PS3's fault , I kind of wish they would port it so their brand would be so tarnished and ridiculed that no one would ever touch anything that CCP produces .
A port wouldn't even begin to address any of the issues of the game , I have a PS4 and I would never download this game to it so I would have hard freezes along with poor performance , glitches and bugs that have plagued the game from the beginning .
Good luck to those who believe that it would change , I would love for you to get smacked in the face by the same that you care to trust when you see that a port didn't change the nature of the game in the least , then what would be their excuse ?
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Kaltos Darksbane
Shadow Wolves Inc.
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Posted - 2015.10.12 19:07:00 -
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Im also starting to wonder if these modded controllers are also adding to the lag problem. We all know the servers suck and all but ive also started noticing that just after they start shooting the lag goes nuts. Just a theory at this point, ill need more evidence to convince me.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.10.12 19:21:00 -
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Here's mine.
http://ecigarettereviewed.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/nes-controller-e-cig-mod.jpg
Don't ever say I play without a handicap.
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Sardonk Eternia
Tiny Universe
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Posted - 2015.10.17 06:57:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Thus, they don't have the legal right to block them (even if it's BS I grant you that). That's silly talk, breh. I don't have the explicit "legal right" to jump up and down while farting. Yet I can do so freely, without any threat of arrest or fine. It wouldn't be illegal to safeguard DUST against the use of turbo controllers and/or macros. No one at CCP would get arrested if weapons jammed when oversampled or fired with super-human cadence.
Indeed!
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KGB Sleep
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Posted - 2015.10.17 07:10:00 -
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the only solution to kb.m macro and mods is to allow all weapons to function as if they were under turbo influence.
the strafing nerf took care of the kb/m strafe wiggle that allowed people to negate damage through input.
the last step is fixing weapon operation so no benefits from trigger spam out class regular tactile input.
in other words a Luis's CR needs to burst automatically while trigger is pressed as fast as a turbo can press the button for all controllers. that is the only way you will balance the controls, then you can balance the weapons.
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IceShifter Childhaspawn
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.17 11:56:00 -
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Animation lock.
It's hard to beat up hundreds of armor piercing bullets using only your face...
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.10.17 13:14:00 -
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Report someone you suspect of having one and they'll look into it. There is something you can do by doing that and they can tell once they start watching that person.
If you can record someone doing it, then do so and put it in a ticket.
I personally want to see everyone that uses them banned or at least punished in some way
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.10.17 13:22:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Always funny to see people defend performance enhancers, some people even admit to using them and then go on to brag about how good and elite they are. Funny indeed. Sequal's Back wrote:
Don't know if you guys remember the story, but sony once tried to "punish" people who were cracking/jailbreaking/whatever their ps3. They got mass attacked by Anonymous because they were violating the right of doing whatever you want with the hardware you buy.
I believe it's the same thing with modded controllers. They are legal and useable freely.
Yeah, and what did that accomplish? Nothing. At this point Anon might as well be considered a false flag because they do far more harm than good. I'm not trying to prove Anonymous' point here, but the fact that you have the right to use the hardware the way you want. CCP can only balance their game arround this fact. But they don't.
On a side note, you are very bad informed of what Anonymous is and what they do.
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
1
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Posted - 2015.10.17 13:32:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Always funny to see people defend performance enhancers, some people even admit to using them and then go on to brag about how good and elite they are. Funny indeed. Sequal's Back wrote:
Don't know if you guys remember the story, but sony once tried to "punish" people who were cracking/jailbreaking/whatever their ps3. They got mass attacked by Anonymous because they were violating the right of doing whatever you want with the hardware you buy.
I believe it's the same thing with modded controllers. They are legal and useable freely.
Yeah, and what did that accomplish? Nothing. At this point Anon might as well be considered a false flag because they do far more harm than good. I'm not trying to prove Anonymous' point here, but the fact that you have the right to use the hardware the way you want. CCP can only balance their game arround this fact. But they don't. On a side note, you are very bad informed of what Anonymous is and what they do. "You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game."
http://dust514.com/eula/?_ga=1.91343187.810225298.1441360834
You know what they say about assumptions right?
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SgtNoNeck Wasssup
CoMBaT Rifles NeeD A BuFF
420
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Posted - 2015.10.17 15:20:00 -
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what are they gonna do ban everyone because some irrelevant pleb fa ggot scrub said "God he f ucking destroyed me must of been using a modded controller" |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.10.17 15:25:00 -
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Jared Fogle wrote:They haven't implemented anything since day 1 to fight modded controllers. What makes you think they are going to now? Becuz you asked for it, I'm sure it will be done. Besides ratatitties is on touch with the community. That's why we're able to trade quafe weapons now. Right.
That is a blatant lie.
For example, the rampant use of TAC AR was addressed in November-December 2012 by adding HUGE kick to it, meaning firing two shots in a row, the second was going to hit some 10-30 pixels above the first shot / target. Guess what? That worked. Too bad it broke the gun at the same time (maybe because it was not the only nerf to it at that time).
Later (2013) after making the TAC AR usable again by easening the kick, the gun got severe ROF limitations - again for same reason.
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Seach "KEROBPO" for list of bpos for sale.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.10.17 15:27:00 -
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It is true that scrambler rifle's rapid fire has been too strong until Hotfix Foxfour, where for the first time it's hipfire kick got some attention. In my opinion, it is still too little, as for some reason SCR was deemed too strong because of the charged shot (Why????) instead of near pinpoint rapid fire.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
Seach "KEROBPO" for list of bpos for sale.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.10.17 15:31:00 -
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On the subject of how to fix rapid fire input devices:
On the 'No' list: hardware ban, hardware detection, banning of players, software limits to keypresses
On the 'A bad fix' list: ROF limitations
Usable solution for balance issues of rapid fire input devices: KICK AND DISPERSION. It there are too many shots withing too small timeframe, then the gun should be either hard to control meaning player skill is needed (to control the kick by fighting the barrel back down) or by having erratic dispersion meaning the performance is weaker.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
Seach "KEROBPO" for list of bpos for sale.
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Kinky Fat Bastard
116
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Posted - 2015.10.18 14:28:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:Kaltos Darksbane wrote:Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant. What do you think they can do about this ? Absolutely nothing.
Are you stupid, try playing Planetside 2 with a modded controller and see where that gets you.
CCP are just too lazy/incompetent to do anything about it |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.10.18 15:56:00 -
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You dont need a modded controller cause you could just aswell get a cronosmax and programm it for rapid fire. ill just post the coding for it when i still played it (copy and paste it into the GPC compiler):
// GPC Online Library // simple_rapid_fire.gpc
/* * * SIMPLE RAPID FIRE * *************************************************************************** */
define RAPIDFIRE_BUTTON = PS3_R1;
define RATE_OF_FIRE = 9; // Range: 1 to 25 RPS (Round/s) // Values higher than 25 would be so fast that the // game probably will not detect 100% of the events. // // No need to make changes in the code below. //
int hold_time, rest_time;
init { hold_time = 500 / RATE_OF_FIRE; rest_time = hold_time - 20; if(rest_time < 0) rest_time = 0; }
main { if(get_val(RAPIDFIRE_BUTTON)) { combo_run(RapidFire); } else if(combo_running(RapidFire)) { combo_stop(RapidFire); } }
combo RapidFire { set_val(RAPIDFIRE_BUTTON, 100); wait(hold_time); set_val(RAPIDFIRE_BUTTON, 0); wait(rest_time); set_val(RAPIDFIRE_BUTTON, 0); }
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Kinky Fat Bastard
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Posted - 2015.10.19 12:45:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:You dont need a modded controller cause you could just aswell get a cronosmax and programm it for rapid fire. ill just post the coding for it when i still played it (copy and paste it into the GPC compiler):
// GPC Online Library // simple_rapid_fire.gpc
/* * * SIMPLE RAPID FIRE * *************************************************************************** */
define RAPIDFIRE_BUTTON = PS3_R1;
define RATE_OF_FIRE = 9; // Range: 1 to 25 RPS (Round/s) // Values higher than 25 would be so fast that the // game probably will not detect 100% of the events. // // No need to make changes in the code below. //
int hold_time, rest_time;
init { hold_time = 500 / RATE_OF_FIRE; rest_time = hold_time - 20; if(rest_time < 0) rest_time = 0; }
main { if(get_val(RAPIDFIRE_BUTTON)) { combo_run(RapidFire); } else if(combo_running(RapidFire)) { combo_stop(RapidFire); } }
combo RapidFire { set_val(RAPIDFIRE_BUTTON, 100); wait(hold_time); set_val(RAPIDFIRE_BUTTON, 0); wait(rest_time); set_val(RAPIDFIRE_BUTTON, 0); }
With the cronusmax its best to use the adjustable rapid fire you can then tweak it in game for optimal rapid fire with weapon of choice
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:07:00 -
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Meh i prefer that one with a slight alteration where it has a slot changer aswell added to it. So i can switch between rapid fire and regular gaming on the fly. Usefull when using weapons which dont allow the usage of rapid fire. And no im not going to list what weapons support it and which dont. Cause that would be helping CCP doing their job and i cannot allow them to do a shortcut.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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